/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7155318]

What do /lit/ thinks of Zadie Smith?

[Anonymous No.7155326]

qt

[Anonymous No.7155328]

I have a feeling she's fucking wild in bed.

[Anonymous No.7155331]

White Teeth is not bad at all

She is insanely beautiful

[Anonymous No.7155337]

>>7155318
>not being redpilled
>not avoiding women and black literature
>not especially avoiding black woman literature
>not especially avoiding liberal black woman literature

Stay cucked, fags.

[Anonymous No.7155341]

White Teeth is maybe the best novel written in the last 20 years by anybody not named Pynchon

[Anonymous No.7155343]

>>7155337

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

[Anonymous No.7155346]

>>7155337
>not liking hot chicks

Sounds like you're the one who's cucked, brah.

[Anonymous No.7155351]

>>7155337
'BIG BLACK JUST CUCK SJW NIGGER JEW KIKE BIG INFOGRAPH HARRISON HABBENING CUCK SJW REDDIT FALSE NIGGER WOSHIP CUCK COCK BIG' - Example of intellectual /pol/ commentary

[Anonymous No.7155354]

I've only read Changing My Mind which makes me think she's very intelligent and interesting.
Anybody have a novel recommendation? NW will be the first novel of hers I read otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7155361]

>>7155351
you forgot "feminazi", libcuck

[Anonymous No.7155385]

guys pls

[Anonymous No.7155390]

>>7155337

[Anonymous No.7155414]

>>7155318
Assuming you're not a troll, you ought to know that you can never have a conversation about a female writer or a non White or Japanese writer without attracting immediate abuse. Women, blacks and users of rival imageboards are the people we put down to lift ourselves up.

[Anonymous No.7155432]

>>7155414
>>7155414
yeah, I tried to post a thread asking about Zadie and Chimamanda before and it was just immediate shit-posting about how the lives of Black women, especially African Black women, are terribly boring because they aren't able to remove themselves in their writing from their socio-economic situation

[Anonymous No.7155433]

I'd have sex with her, sure. She's a hot piece of ass and she knows it. Her footgame probably isn't half bad either.

As to her writing. She's awful. She's a woman so what do you expect.

[Anonymous No.7155441]

White Teeth was bretty gud.

[Anonymous No.7155458]

>>7155414
people just don't like how any critique of her is presumed to be due to racism. her headband is analogous to the clothing of black female slaves, therefore one might assume she writes as a disadvantaged subject, cast down and aside by merciless and pale patriarchal overlords. the lack of such narratives from the last several thousand years of horrific abuse and oppression by old, rich white men suggests that this woman is not the product of a sudden mass cultural enlightenment but another rabble-rouser hopping on a not-uncontroversial bandwagon many view as a well-intentioned journey in an incorrect and tragic direction.
black lesbian here btw

[Anonymous No.7155461]

For me she's only interesting as an object of desire, i.e. to use as a masturbatory prop. As a woman, that is all the value that she can have. She's an instrument to my sexual self-gratification.

She can't write or think. She's of an inferior mind being both black and a woman.

[Anonymous No.7155463]

bretty boring. Basically an incarnation of Franzen.

[Anonymous No.7155470]

>>7155463
women in charge of coming up with new ideas pmsl

what a worthless whore she is

[Anonymous No.7155473]

>>7155461

>people still think 'social justice' is the problem when people like this breathe air

[Anonymous No.7155481]

>>7155473
>people with certain thoughts should be murdered

Anyone is free to have whatever opinion they want.
Does this trigger you?

[Anonymous No.7155489]

>>7155481
leftists are mentally ill as that post suggests. truly frightening way of thinking

[Anonymous No.7155500]

>>7155481

I didn't suggest murder

[Anonymous No.7155501]

I enjoyed but did not love On Beauty, which is the only novel of hers I've read. I think she's a superb essayist, though.

[Anonymous No.7155514]

>>7155473
>people think that 'those people' are a problem when social justice still exists

[Anonymous No.7155575]

I've only read NW and I loved it

[Anonymous No.7155659]

>>7155501
exactly, I've read NW and On Beauty and they were OK, but her essay writing is usually pretty quality. Her essay on Facebook:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/nov/25/generation-why/
is genius.
Some of her latest stuff is merely mediocre and/or pretentious, like:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/oct/23/find-your-beach/

[Anonymous No.7155806]

>>7155318
I'd fuck her but I wouldn't read her stuff. I don't know what she writes about but it probably involves race and/or sex because all minority writers focus on those things.

[Anonymous No.7155818]

>>7155514

I don't want to live on this late capitalism any more

[Anonymous No.7155911]

I've only read White Teeth, but it was a brilliant story. Weak prose at times, though

[Anonymous No.7155930]

Great writer, terrible in bed.

[Anonymous No.7155933]

I was supposed to meet her once but she bailed fifteen minutes before the meeting and i've never forgiven her.

[Anonymous No.7155939]

>>7155500
you >implied it

[Anonymous No.7155955]

>>7155939

I think the implication was more 'why haven't your kind died out yet' in a passive, rather than a genocidal or personally homicidal way

;)

[Anonymous No.7155996]

>>7155432
>Chimamanda
top fucking kek
Is it a person's name?

[Anonymous No.7156059]

>>7155318
top 10 jaw line

[Anonymous No.7156065]

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>>7155806
She's above average but you're overrating her a lot

[Anonymous No.7156077]

>>7156065

not even

[Anonymous No.7156485]

>>7155470

franzen is basically a woman tbqh

Which reminds me of Wittgenstein. In his younger days, he read some kekworthy book (sex and character) that implied you're either a man or a woman/jew. He took that by heart and worked all his life to be a man.

too bad he was a jew(by ancestry) and gay. Would have been a great subject for psychoanalysis.

[Anonymous No.7156496]

>>7156485

>too bad he was a jew(by ancestry) and gay.

So was Weininger, that's why he wrote the book

[Anonymous No.7156690]

>>7155996
get a load of this Eurocentric pleb

[Anonymous No.7156762]

>>7155318
trite, boring shit.
>le republicans vs democrats
>le racism is alive!

Amazed at how little creativity there is in her 400+ page books and yet they manage to sell

[Anonymous No.7157661]

>>7155318
>What do /lit/ thinks of Zadie Smith?

[Anonymous No.7157680]

>>7156077
She has a pretty face for a hipster woman her age but her body looks plain.

[Anonymous No.7157683]

Not trying to be edgy but I don't like her writing. She is sort of a hack tbh. Look up some articles she has written for harpers and the new yorker.

[Anonymous No.7157694]

>>7157683
that's not edgy, she's a hack.

[Anonymous No.7157704]

I've only read On Beauty. It was competent but nothing special. Her prose is good, but I mean that in the worst way possible. It was very Oxbridge and unoriginal. If she were white nobody would look at her work twice.

I don't really like someone that is clearly educated who adopts a high literary style trying to then sell us their black experience. Zadie Smith is as white as they come.

I'd give her more of a chance but I suspect she hasn't written anything interesting and there are far more interesting things to digest. I've read a few of her essays and I feel like they showed her age.

[Anonymous No.7157722]

>>7155318
I think she writes male characters well.
A lot of female writers don't. Even some of the famous ones.

[Anonymous No.7157739]

>>7156496

wew, that's funnier

[Anonymous No.7157740]

>>7155351
>>7155337
he is right thou, i never seen anything good coming from black women in literature

its the regular ... "white privilige smh reparations yall crackas raciss raciss reparations wheres mah free stuff muh lesbian soul sistas" its not even really insightful or anything, its boring, i know what poor ass blacks think about whites, no one cares, plus they are simply wrong on most questions.

[Anonymous No.7157747]

>>7155955
he is either a troll or some kind of weird fetish masturbator not really representative for any group, plus there is nothing wrong with "social justice warriors" as long its really justice and equality and not "justice and equality"

[Anonymous No.7157776]

>>7157704

Zadie Smith is as white as they come?

What is being black then?

[Anonymous No.7157788]

>>7155318
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>>7157776

the most important thing about her is not that she's black, or that she's a woman, or that she's a black woman, or whatever. don't be distracted by identity politics, that what they want you to be focus on. the most important thing about her is that she went to harvard. that is who she is, that is what she is, that is all she will ever be.

[Anonymous No.7157806]

>>7155318
>>7156077
poor man's Rashida Jones.

[Anonymous No.7157818]

>>7157788

>The most important thing is not ideology, ideology or ideology. It is, mein gott, pure ideology.

[Anonymous No.7157827]

>>7157788
lol

>>7157806
lol

[Anonymous No.7157853]

>>7155996
No, it's a sexually transmitted disease.

[Anonymous No.7157879]

>>7157704
White Teeth is her book that's really about minority experience, and it's surprisingly hateful of every character, immigrant or "oppressor".

[Anonymous No.7157956]

>>7155337
boring

[Anonymous No.7157990]

>>7157740
What? Have you read a lot of black female literature because that is definitely not true.

It's probably about as introductory as you can get, but The Bluest Eye is amazingly compelling. You could remove most of the references to race and still have a touching look at innocence.

[Anonymous No.7157992]

>>7157818
Sides absolutely destroyed. Thanks Zizek

[Anonymous No.7158031]

Did anyone else think NW was embarrassing shit?

[Anonymous No.7158136]

>>7155354
I reread Changing My Mind last year and found myself disagreeing with more of it -particularly her idea that Americans can't read Kafka- but they're still really good.

I've found a lot of her actual fiction kind of, well...boring. The last thing she wrote for The Paris Review (at least I think it was the last thing) just felt like the fragmentary stuff I wrote a couple of years back and, to be honest, still write.

>>7158031
No, the Felix part was pretty good, but then that was the most traditional part of the novel. The opening part centering around that girl that can't decide what she wants wants to be Eimear McBride, but doesn't go far enough.

[Anonymous No.7158380]

Really good looking, marketable creative writing major.

[Anonymous No.7158393]

>>7157788
>tfw zadie smith didn't go to harvard, she went to King's College, Cambridge
>tfw when anon trolls this entire thread

[Anonymous No.7158428]

She's failed to develop past White Teeth, which was good but not amazing. Her essays are good. I get the sense that, instead of developing the sharp edge White Teeth had, she blunted it in response to James Woods' "Hysterical Realism" criticisms, into Woods idea of good novels, which is skilled observation (which it isn't), and DFW basically becoming the poster boy for the genre. Now she's just a decent but ultimately minor "systems novelist" like the Franz. She's moving more and more into prose, and away from the poetry that makes for great novels. She's also probably gotten insulated from the world by early fame.

[Anonymous No.7158435]

So... has anyone read this? Is it good?

[Anonymous No.7158441]

She was really aping DFW with the whole bandana thing, huh

[Anonymous No.7158456]

>>7157740
Read some Audre Lorde. She was a black lesbian poet, and her verse can get you hot and bothered.

>Out of my flesh that hungers
>and my mouth that knows
>comes the shape I am seeking
>for reason.
>The curve of your waiting body
>fits my waiting hand
>your breasts warm as sunlight
>your lips quick as young birds
>between your thighs the sweet
>sharp taste of limes.

[Anonymous No.7158457]

>>7158441
Chuckled heartily at this

[Anonymous No.7158463]

>>7155433
>She´s a hot piece of ass
Can you back up your claim with a picture?

[Anonymous No.7158466]

>>7158441
>was
>aping
>bandana
1/10 I helped Google identify pictures of salad

[Anonymous No.7158486]

>>7158466
At least with the old system you could cheat them out of actually helping, but this pisses me off. Only reason I use it is that it is better for mobile.

[Anonymous No.7159881]

>>7155318
never heard of her
i'm assuming she wrote something about how oppressed she is because she's a black woman, so i'm just going to smh, fam

[Anonymous No.7160189]

>>7159881

You'd be wrong

you should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.7160216]

>>7155337
comeon sexism is my jam but don't be racist

[Anonymous No.7160218]

>>7160216

dipshit

[Anonymous No.7160242]

>>7155318
not much tbh

[Anonymous No.7160274]

James Wood's epic takedown of Zadie, DFW, and the rest of these meme writers.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/61361/human-all-too-inhuman

[Anonymous No.7160369]

>>7160274
>http://www.newrepublic.com/article/61361/human-all-too-inhuman

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[Anonymous No.7160389]

>>7160274
it was not an "epic takedown" of the "meme writers". It was a critique of a style prominent, at some times more than others, in the work of those authors. He was not trying to reevaluate their reputations as authors.

[Anonymous No.7160402]

>>7160274
Wasn't even a good critique.

[Anonymous No.7160622]

>>7160274
Not really epic. He's just describes how they write and then says that its "bad because I say its bad".

I like writers like the ones he's criticising. They're fun, and I don't care if these little stupid details aren't important to some great cohesive meaning.