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Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:30:17 2015 No.7153451 [Reply] [Original]

'Morning /lit/, Italianfag here

Besides the great classics of my culture (here they all get teached at school sooner or later), is there any other book you have read and liked? And you'd feel to recommend? Any notable author?

I'm quite curious to know how my country's literature is perceived around the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:33:00 2015 No.7153458 I like Italo Calvino and I think I'd like Umberto Eco.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:37:29 2015 No.7153469

>>7153451
I have an Italian gf (Belgian myself), so I'm a bit biased, but I like Italian literature very much.

I've only read 2 trecentisti (Dante & Boccaccio) and it's interesting that those books are still enjoyable.

Gerusalemme Liberata was also very cool to read (though I didn't read the original but a modern Italian edition).

Some modern authors are also very good: Eco, Baricco, Ammaniti, ...

I'd like to read Italo Calvino, he's on my list, but the list is long.

Italian literature is a great mix of old classics that will never be forgotten and new, intelligent works.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:39:13 2015 No.7153473

>>7153451
we like calvino. i sometimes see a gramsci thread and i saw a svevo thread a week ago
my wife reads ferrante and really likes it though i've never seen a thread here (it is apparently very woman-oriented which may explain it)
what should we read (besides dante & machiavelli)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:48:09 2015 No.7153486 >>7153451 I've read and liked a few translations of Alberto Moravia: Contempt, The Conformist and Boredom. Can't remember the original titles, but I think the English titles were literal translations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 05:50:25 2015 No.7153493 >>7153473 Like >>7153469 said, you should try Eco, Baricco, Ammaniti, but also Sciascia, Buzzati, Levi, Camilleri, Rodari, and some other modern authors, like De Carlo (especially "Two out of two").

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:03:16 2015 No.7153522 >>7153493 thx wop

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:10:02 2015 No.7153539

>>7153451
One I bet won't get a mention who I quite like is Gureschi. Also Gramsci I'll throw my hat in for. Renzo Piano is a fairly prolific writer for an architect and is interesting, tho he does have a tendency to romanticise his origins in building.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:18:44 2015 No.7153564 Has anyone read Italo Svevo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:21:07 2015 No.7153572 >I'm quite curious to know how my country's literature is perceived around the world. It's considered to be very high due to Virgil and Dante.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:24:50 2015 No.7153586 >>7153572 do people consider virgil italian? (do italians consider virgil italian?)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:34:12 2015 No.7153613 File: 211 KB, 1200x812, 2-cy-twombly_bacchanalia-fall.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7153451 I'm surprised to have never seen leopardi mentioned here, considering how popular Nietzsche is

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 07:34:18 2015 No.7153729

>>7153493
Oh yeah, I forgot some writers. I'm this guy>>7153469, btw.

Buzzati is almost the Italian Kafka. It's not a perfect comparison, but the feeling I get when I read their short stories is almost the same. Il deserto dei Tartari (The Tartar Steppe) is pretty funny, as an added bonus.

Se questo è un uomo (If This is a Man) and Il sistema periodico (The Periodic Table) by Primo Levi are both good insights into WWII from the POV of an Italian Jew. I've also heard good things about La tregua (The Truce) but I haven't read that.

Cristo si è fermato a Eboli (Christ Stopped at Eboli) is a pretty bleak account of the exile of Carlo Levi (no family of Primo) to the deep Italian south and just how mind-bogglingly poor the people were there.

I've read La Coscienza di Zeno/Zeno's Conscience, but in (Dutch) translation. Bretti gud. James Joyce liked it very much, apparently.

Baricco: read Castelli di rabbia/Lands of Glass
Ammaniti: Io non ho paura/I'm not Scared or L'ultimo capodanno dell'umanità/The Last New Year's Eve of Humanity
Eco: Do not read Il cimitero di Praga/The Cemetary of Prague and Numero zero/Number Zero. Everything else is great.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 07:46:10 2015 No.7153755

>>7153729
The Truce is very nice, it's a very good POV of the weird mess that was Europe after WWII. It's worth reading.

I wouldn't recommend Baricco. I've never read Coelho but I think it's the italian equivalent of it. Very pop stuff

Ammaniti is not bad but a bit pop too

what I absolutely loved beyond measure is Il Gattopardo, story of the last of his aristocratic line, facing progress and affirmation of the bourgeoisie in Sicily

I also liked very much I Malavoglia. Similar topic as Il Gattopardo, but the family in question is a family of fishers

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 07:47:22 2015 No.7153757 >>7153586 yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 08:39:05 2015 No.7153864 >>7153451 Why are Italians really pansy, and Greeks fucking violent?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 09:50:00 2015 No.7153992 >>7153864 >really pansy What kind of horrid place to you have to live in to believe this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 10:15:44 2015 No.7154052 all the authors posted ITT are very vanilla I like Malaparte and Papini

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 10:27:12 2015 No.7154095 >>7154052 >all the authors posted ITT are very vanilla That's awful, isn't it?

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 10:32:16 2015 No.7154107

>>7153992
Every time I've been at a club, I always see these Italian guys literally groping every girl they see. If they do it a friend of mine, and it's obviously uncomfortable, I'll just tap them on the shoulder. I've done it maybe eight times, and every time, they all just do this thing where they throw their hands up, blink there eyes a lot and slink off like a lizard.

I like Italians as well, just funny behaviour I've noticed. Greeks on the other hand, or at least Cypriots, have beaten the shit out of a lot of my friends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 10:34:01 2015 No.7154113 >>7154095 nothing in the Italian canon is awful, but I would want to go for something more exciting, just my opinion

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 11:01:29 2015 No.7154185 has anyone read Antonio Tabucci? randomly stumbled upon him in the library, and I've never seen him referred to anywhere else. He has an interesting dreamy style, although his stories are difficult to decipher.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 11:03:53 2015 No.7154194 >>7154185 also, how do you feel about Ludovico Ariosto? I know friends that read Furioso for school, and I've been interested in it because I love Quixote and Death of Roland and other chivalry romance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 11:44:17 2015 No.7154260 Canale Mussolini - Antonio Pennacchi

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:01:23 2015 No.7154298 File: 29 KB, 454x455, 1439477159703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7153469 >I have an Italian gf >anon >having a gf

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:05:27 2015 No.7154477

>Italy
>Good literature

You must have pretty low standards anon.
I've read some italian books and they are:

1) Boring as fuck.
2) without any unique and distinguishable writing style.
3) Based on topics that are usually uninteresting or that have been already dried out by other countries' authors.
4) Generally filled with retarded opinions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:23:38 2015 No.7154541 >>7154477 >being this french

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:25:38 2015 No.7154551 >>7154541 Keep being butthurt, Mario.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:30:09 2015 No.7154569 >>7154477 >>7154551 what books did you read?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:36:37 2015 No.7154589 File: 154 KB, 768x1152, la-coscienza-di-zeno.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7154569 pic related, The count of monte cristo and the betrothed. They were all excrutiating terrible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:39:05 2015 No.7154599 File: 10 KB, 200x200, bait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7154589 >the count of monte cristo >italian

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:40:44 2015 No.7154604 >>7154599 What, it's not italian? My bad. However that doesn't excuse the other two that are hailed as the best of the best in their countries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 16:33:10 2015 No.7155157 >>7154589 fuck im laughing way to hard

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 16:38:26 2015 No.7155172

Anyway im going to post my favorite italian authors, dunno if all of them are translated in other languages
LISTA DI COSE CHE MI FANNO TIRARE IL CAZZO:
Achille Campanile
Dino Buzzati
Carli Emilio Gadda (if you cant read italian just ignore him, translated it would lose all of his charme)
Renzo Novatore
Italo Calvino
Tommaso Pincio
Giorgio Manganelli
Ennio Flaviano

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 16:39:13 2015 No.7155175 File: 34 KB, 400x300, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7154589 Do you legitimately have a learning disability?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:14:48 2015 No.7155305 >>7155172 grazie anon >runs LISTA DI COSE... through Google Translate lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:19:31 2015 No.7155329 Three of my favorite author authors are Italian -- Italo Calvino, Primo Levi (I loved his memoir The Periodic Table), and Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:26:55 2015 No.7155364
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Thread interessante, probabilmente più produttivo che cercare di instaurare in loro l'amore per la poesia italiana come faccio io, elogiando soprattutto Leopardi.
Allo stesso tempo soffro al pensiero che conoscano quasi più questi moderni piuttosto che quelli meno conosciuti tra i classici.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 18:08:51 2015 No.7155485 >>7154107 >Every time I've been at a club, I always see these Italian guys literally groping every girl they see. This is being a pansy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 18:58:14 2015 No.7155653 >>7155364 È confortante trovare un altro camerata affine su questa board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 20:51:04 2015 No.7155970 >>7153572 virgil wtf I mean, with italian literature, we should consider literature written in italian, not written by people born in a place that one day will be called italy

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 20:53:04 2015 No.7155975 >>7154194 I love Ariosto, underrated AF, second best of al time

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 20:57:41 2015 No.7155980
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>>7155364
sentirli parlare della coscenza di zeno come capolavoro mi ha ampiamente rotto le palle periodicamente vengo qui e faccio propaganda dantesca, ma nessuno capisce e allora torno da dove sono venut

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 00:44:54 2015 No.7156673 >>7155970 It was called Italia by its inhabitants before Virgil's time. And even if it wasn't it would still be irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 01:08:55 2015 No.7156758 ragazzi sto andando un pochetto offtopi ma sticazzi, conoscete qualche negozio di libri usati decente a milano? inb 4Libraccio

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 01:16:05 2015 No.7156781 Pereira Maintains (alternatively titled Pereira Declares) by Antonio Tabucchi. Never seen it discussed on /lit/ in all my years here, but it's a brilliant work. Look it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 01:50:17 2015 No.7156896 >>7156758 Libraccio. Scherzi a parte, anche io sono di Milano. Cerca i negozi dell'usato e i vari mercatini. Andando verso Cinisello/Monza ne trovi tanti. Lí con 1 euro o 2 riesci a comprarti anche 4 libri.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:20:09 2015 No.7157801 Ma qualcuno sa come accedere a Ladri di Biblioteche / altra fonte buona di .epub ? Perché ho fatto richiesta 2 giorni fa ma non mi è pervenuto nulla.

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:25:49 2015 No.7157822

>>7155980
Dott. Lecter parla diverse lingue tra cui frances, italiano e latino.
Lui é ben educato e ha gusti costosi. Egli sarà disegnato alla cultura e ama circondarsi di persone istruite e benestanti.
Dott. Lecter é ben arredato e di solito molto ben vestito.
Tiene i capelli in ordine e in genere è rasato

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:29:27 2015 No.7157833 File: 24 KB, 293x450, questione-privata.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] READ FENOGLIO FAGGOTS

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:31:15 2015 No.7157835 >>7156781 I've heard it's pretentious trash, defend it anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 12:45:53 2015 No.7158146 I really liked the betrothed by alessandro mozani, picked it up on a whim and its now one of my favorite books.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 12:52:14 2015 No.7158165 >>7157822 cosa avranno voluto dire con "ben arredato"

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:16:38 2015 No.7158240 >>7158165 che si tiene in forma tipo, diobestia era così difficile cercare un italiano per scrivere quelle due righe? erano pure a firenze

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:18:48 2015 No.7158248 >>7158240 beh e le comparse "italiane" che parlano con accenti improbabili?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:32:29 2015 No.7158292 File: 82 KB, 401x561, dannunzio.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do my fellow /lit/alians think of based Vate?

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:32:32 2015 No.7158293
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>>7153451
What do people here think of Manzoni?
His Promessi Sposi is an absolute classic in Italy but many italians tend to feel little sympathy towards it because it gets shoved down our throats during High School more than regular classic works (think of The Great Gatsby).
I think that it's actually pretty good, even a masterpiece. The amount of work Manzoni put in it is impressive, there's a lot of attention to detail and every word was picked for a reason.

That said, I hate Manzoni personally and find him to be a VERY obnoxious narrator.

Also I don't think you can enjoy it as much if you don't read it in Italian, because of what I said before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:34:08 2015 No.7158295 I forgot to specify, the english translation of the title is The Betrothed

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:35:10 2015 No.7158296 >>7158295 >>7158293 forgot to quote

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 14:13:22 2015 No.7158417 >>7158293 I enjoyed it, but some characters are just a pain in the ass, Lucia first

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 14:16:33 2015 No.7158431 >>7158417 But Lucia is so moe!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 15:52:08 2015 No.7158795 >>7158292 Fucking badass. Like the italian Camus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:08:03 2015 No.7158845 >>7158292 A tryhard, he aint shit compared to Renzo Novatore, but he was friend with Guido Keller which is probably the most ridiculous person too ever walk on the planet so i kinda like him

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:17:15 2015 No.7158878

>>7158845
" Keller viene ritratto nudo ed abbronzatissimo in diverse foto del tempo. Era solito dormire seminudo, appollaiato in cima ad un albero assieme alla suaaquilaaddestrata. Keller fu autore di autentiche imprese dacorsaro, anche in circostanzespettacolaricome quando, mancando gli approvvigionamenti a Fiume, razziò un maiale caricandolo sull'aereo. Il peso del maiale sfondò il fondo del velivolo e Keller si trovò a volare con unoriginalecarrello di atterraggio. Keller portava a bordo del suo velivolo unservizio da tècon dei biscotti, particolare questo che contribuì ad accrescere la sua fama - voluta - di raffinatodandy. Come protesta per la firma del Trattato di Rapallo, volò suRomaa bordo di un biplano Ansaldo SVA[5]per lanciare un mazzo di fiori sul Vaticano e sulQuirinale,[5]in segno di omaggio, e un pitale smaltato con dentro un mazzo di carote e rape suMontecitorio, in segno di dispregio, accompagnati dalla scrittaAl Parlamento e al Governo che si regge con la menzogna e la paura, la tangibilità allegorica del Loro valore."

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 17:36:56 2015 No.7159231 >>7158292 >a pretentious fascist tryhard >based

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 04:14:06 2015 No.7161078 >>7155172 What book in particular? I am italian and I only read Calvino from this list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 07:26:59 2015 No.7161297 >>7161078 >>7161078 >>7161078 ti devo postare il libro che ritengo migliore di ogni autore che ho postato?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 07:29:06 2015 No.7161298 >>7161297 ma cosa cazzo ho scritto

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 08:20:57 2015 No.7161372 As far as italian literature goes, Pirandello and Verga are the two people I hold in the highest regard, but it's a shame that Verga really can't be properly traslated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 08:54:29 2015 No.7161429 >>7161372 shit taste, ignorant af or simply terone

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:05:51 2015 No.7161447 >>7161429 epic criticism, you totally dismantled those authors

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:08:00 2015 No.7161452 >>7153451 D'Annunzio is pretty fun tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:09:25 2015 No.7161455 >>7161447 we get it u curtu, go back to prison and stop shitposting on a taiwanese gambling site

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:16:22 2015 No.7161470 P.P.Pasolini is a worth reading

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:18:03 2015 No.7161473 >>7157801 in giro c'è un torrent da 7.5 gb con un sacco di roba, ci mette i giorni ma ne vale

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 10:34:16 2015 No.7161587

Aside from the others mentioned above, I'd like to add Pavese.

Also, I just bought Uomini e no and Conversazione in Sicilia by Vittorini

>>7153755
>I wouldn't recommend Baricco. I've never read Coelho but I think it's the italian equivalent of it. Very pop stuff
As a brazilian and reader of Baricco, that's very disrespectful, fam

>>7154185
I've read four of his books and I love them tbh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 11:15:42 2015 No.7161657 Pavese has written my all time favourite novel. Besides here's some good contemporary stuff: "Cacciatori di Frodo" - Alessandro Cinquegrani "La circostanza" - non me lo ricordo ma è arrivato in finale al calvino. "Secolo XXI" - Dovreste Saperlo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 13:54:45 2015 No.7162156 >>7153572 Virgil was Roman you twat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 15:28:36 2015 No.7162517 >>7161473 Ma saresti assai simpatico se me lo potessi rendermelo reperibile. Sono particolarmente interessato a "Jakob Von Gunten" .

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 19:03:33 2015 No.7163340 >>7159231 Learn your history you centrosociale scum, D'annunzio was a libertarian. Look at what he did in the Regency of Carnaro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 19:05:57 2015 No.7163349 >>7162156 And? What's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:12:18 2015 No.7164067 >>7163349 He didn't write in Italian.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 03:52:47 2015 No.7164779

>>7163340
"D'Annunzio, che era anche comandante delle Forze Armate Fiumane, e il suo governo, vararono tra l'altro la Carta del Carnaro, una costituzione provvisoria, scritta dal sindacalista rivoluzionario Alceste de Ambris e modificata in parte da D'Annunzio stesso[30], che prevedeva, assieme alle varie leggi applicative e regolamenti varati, numerosi diritti per i lavoratori, le pensioni di invalidità, l'habeas corpus, il suffragio universale maschile e femminile, la libertà di opinione, di religione e di orientamento sessuale, la depenalizzazione dell'omosessualità, del nudismo e dell'uso di droga, la funzione sociale della proprietà privata, il corporativismo, le autonomie locali e il risarcimento degli errori giudiziari, il tutto molto tempo prima di altre carte costituzionali dell'epoca."

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 04:59:05 2015 No.7164869 what does /litaly/ you think of Wu Ming?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:14:57 2015 No.7164902 >>7164067 Aeneas and The Meat-a-balls, mamma mia what a storia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:45:08 2015 No.7164953 >>7161297 Se hai voglia sì. Se no no. Dipende da te. I am the only one who doesn't like Verga?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:08:10 2015 No.7164976 >>7164869 Mediocre at best. Complexity for the sake of complexity. History and general weirdness to subsitute deepness. Overall not bad 7/10.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:37:11 2015 No.7165014

Ecco in Brasile la literatura italiana non è molto conosciuta. Il scriventi piu famosi sono, penso io, Dante, Calvino, ed Pirandello.

Io ho letto unicamente Dante, Guido, Petraca, ed un poco di Pasolini. Io voglio leggere Svevo.

Io non parlo italiano, scusa miei errori.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:39:34 2015 No.7165016 >>7155364 Che pensate di Guido Cavalcanti? Lui è lo miglior poeta italiano, penso io.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:46:50 2015 No.7165026 >>7165014 >>7165014 Tranquillo, non facciamo i pignoli. Francamente io ti consiglierei di passare prima per Manzoni e Leopardi, ma de gustibus...

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:49:43 2015 No.7165031 >>7165016 Hai sbagliato a scrivere Ungaretti

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:50:39 2015 No.7165033 >>7164953 beh così su due piedi non ne ho di preferiti, e neanche ho letto tutti i libri di tutti gli autori postati. ci penso e quando torno a casa provo a postare una lista decente. E verga non piace particolarmente neanche a me

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:53:25 2015 No.7165037 >>7155980 >Voluto per omicidio Porco il clero

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:56:47 2015 No.7165044 M E T A S T A S I O

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 07:04:02 2015 No.7165060 >>7165037 no è :"VOLUTO per omicidio" devi urlare la prima parte e sussurrare la seconda

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 09:59:04 2015 No.7165444

>>7164067
So? He's still part of that culture's history, still produced by the same 'nation'. Rome is still in Italy last time I checked. And the difference between the Latin and Italian languages is a gradual evolutionary one; the former did not suddenly and abruptly change into the latter.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:16:44 2015 No.7165497

>>7164953
alura, i must read per me sono
Achille Campanile-Tragedie in due battute
Dino Buzzati-Poema a fumetti, Il deserto dei Tartari
Carli Emilio Gadda- Quer pasticciaccio brutto de via Merulana
Renzo Novatore-Un fiore selvaggio
Italo Calvino-le città invisibili, Palomar,Se una notte d'inverno un viaggiatore
Tommaso Pincio- Pulp Roma,Un amore dell'altro mondo
Giorgio Manganelli-Antologia privata
Ennio Flaviano-Tempo di uccidere

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:18:29 2015 No.7165503 Ah, qualcuno conosce dei libri decenti in dialetto milanese o veneto?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:36:32 2015 No.7165547 qualcuno è membro di Ladri di Biblioteche? Non trovate che il progetto andrebbe "riformato" in stile what.cd, o, generalmente, organizzato meglio?

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:39:52 2015 No.7165558

Jacopo Ortis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Werther

Werther is a whiny little bitch, Jacopo was the lone voice who felt the pain of being evicted by an home whose lords were invaders and its inhabitants did not care to be their slaves.

Also, if you liked "All quiet on the western front" read "centomila gavette di ghiaccio", I was going through the descriptions of the infirmary and I had to stop time to time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:41:58 2015 No.7165565 >>7165497 >alura, Surely we don't live so far. Grazie per i consigli!

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:44:29 2015 No.7165575

>>7165497
vedere la "i" piccola mi mette in soggezione su 4chan eh eh.
>citta invisibili
tra i libri che voglio leggere da tempo, un giorno ci arriverò.

Una curiosità, non l'ho mai letto ma ho come l'impressione che Fabio Volo sia considerato Pleb-tier isnt it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:51:26 2015 No.7165596 ita/lit/ lo chiedo a voi: fare Filosofia all'università vale la pena?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:56:43 2015 No.7165613 >>7165497 >Tommaso Pincio >cadere per il fenomeno virale digitale al punto da subirsi pure le imitazioni

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 11:00:42 2015 No.7165626 >>7165596 1) Se scegli una laurea solo perché porta a lavori richiesti ora, tra 3-5 anni potrebbe non essere più così, scegli qualcosa che vuoi e in cui sei capace 2) Cosa è per te filosofia? Per cosa la useresti? Per scrivere libri? Insegnare?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 11:11:40 2015 No.7165658 >>7165626 >1) esattamente il mio ragionamento > Per cosa la useresti? >Per scrivere libri si, ma anche solo per un sapere personale

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 11:22:30 2015 No.7165689 >>7154541 >implying Frenchmen are the ones who downplay Italian literature on /lit/ >implying a French person thinks "The Count of Monte-Cristo" is Italian

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 11:46:48 2015 No.7165773 >>7165575 Fabio Volo è Moccia-tier

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 12:04:42 2015 No.7165829 >>7165575 Una tedesca che conosco stava leggendo qualcosa di lui, e mi ha chiesto se è normale che ci sono errori grammaticali nel libro. Decidi tu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 12:18:26 2015 No.7165875 >>7165613 va' che è bravo figa

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 12:23:27 2015 No.7165886 >>7165613 E poi vuoi seriamente dirmi che non apprezzi Pynchon? frega un cazzo di /lit/ che esagera sempre per tutto, per me rimane un autore coi controcoglioni

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 12:50:20 2015 No.7165976 >>7165886 Pynchon è ok. Hype ingiustifcato per quelle che sono, infond, solo storie. Belle storie, per carità, scritte bene, sofisticate, divertenti, complesse, ricche di citazioni, ma pur sempre solo storie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 15:19:52 2015 No.7166579 >>7165444 There's an Italian flag in the OP. Go make your own thread. I'm trying to learn Italian and these discussions are a rare treat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 15:24:12 2015 No.7166596 Fingerprints of the Gods may be speculative and unscientific bullshit, but no other book besides Cosmos has dumbstruck me with wonder about the vastness of time and relative insignificance of humans regarding the life of planet Earth

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 16:36:34 2015 No.7166863 teste di cazzo

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 16:38:37 2015 No.7166874 qualcuno può linkare il torrent di ladri di biblioteche da 7 giga?

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