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Can we have a 'shit plebs say' thread?

>Pleb: 'I won't read The Giver, it's too Young Adult for my taste'.
>mfw he mainly reads comic books, Brandon Sanderson and GRRM

>> No.7132422

>>7132366
Doesnt change the fact that its pleb tbh

>> No.7132430

>Slaughterhouse Five is one of the greatest books ever

>> No.7132432

>Plato was a misogynist so I'm not going to read his work

>> No.7132442

>You shouldn't read the classics just to say you've read them. I don't do either, but I still want to read Great Expectations some day-

>> No.7132457

when a pleb say they can't read a classic because it's been "spoiled" for them it makes me see red immediately

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>hear people laughing in the distance, saying 'Homer this', 'Homer that'
>mfw they were joking about the Homer from The Simpsons

>> No.7132461

>I really identify with the unnamed man in Notes From the Underground

>> No.7132470

Catcher in the Rye is a bad book

>> No.7132472

>>7132458
Anon, you will be hard pressed to find:
1) People who make Homer jokes
2) People who make Homer jokes loud enough for others to hear

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>those YouTube reading challenges really put a pressure on you, don't they?

>> No.7133292

>>7132366
>"Game of Thrones is the best fantasy series ever. Far more realistic and gritty than Lord of the Rings. Martin is a visionary."

>"I appreciate poetry but I just can't get into it."

>"You know Sam Harris has a philosophy degree, right?" This one is usually followed with some statement about how Harris is unbeatable in debates and a genius

>"I love Dante! The Inferno is great!"

>"If a book doesn't have a good plot I can't get into it, no matter how 'great' it is."

>"No one REALLY reads Ulysses."

>"The Bible is just a collection of Jewish Fairy Tales"

>> No.7133305

>Pleb: what makes good literature is all subjective
>Pat: there are objective qualities that make good literature, surely you could not say Harry Potter is better than War and Peace

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>>7132461

>> No.7133836

>>7133292
>the bible is just a collection of Jewish fairy tales
What do you think it is then?

Hard mode: no christposting.

>> No.7133837

>>7133292
>>7132366
Ironically:
>bashing on GRRM

>> No.7133854

>>7133836
Historical/mythological/religious texts/stories

>> No.7133865

>Catcher was awful! Caulfiield was the real phony all along!

>> No.7133881

>>7133865
I hate it more when they scream about Holden being a dick.
>He sucks, the book was awful!

This is a trend now. I hear people from school do this a lot.
>Lord Jim was a moron, the book was horrible!
>Bloom masturbates and goes to poop! What a lame book Ulysses is!
>Stephen is immature! Portrait is really bad book.

And my favorite:
>Moby-Dick should NOT be read at all; I mean, they jerk off a whale and have gay sex! OMG!

[TRIGGERED]

>> No.7133890

>I read translations

>> No.7133897

>>7132366
The Giver IS pedestrian, m8, and I've read it. How old are we talking, 7th grade?

>> No.7133954

>>7132442
>snicker

>> No.7133964
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>The books you read are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo weird anon

that's pretty much all i get

>> No.7134078

>>7133964
>your music is weird anon!
>gee you're such a tryhard with books
>what pretentious films you watch!
>tfw you end up being the quite guy simply because you share almost nothing in common with the people you're with.
At least I have some patrician friends

>> No.7134081

>>7134078
>quite

>friends

REEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.7134082

>>7133964

This poster is in high school

>> No.7134085

>I wish I had a life like Gatsby! His parties sounds so cool!

How do people now get that it is a parody of wealth?

>> No.7134099

>>7134081
I'm dutch, I fuck up quiet often
And with friends I mean literally just 2 people
>>7134082
I'm 21 and go to a shit tier school, I'm surrounded by people who like John Green and Mumford and Sons

>> No.7134135

The only thing that triggers me is people being overly passionate and loving of something god-awful

They have zero standards to what entertainment should provide, and literaly like whatever a large group of people already happened to like at the time - which is fine - but then they act all might and deep and cultured and as if they've found some secret gem of philosophical insight.

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>I can't afford to buy bread to feed my sick child
This really angers me.
They should die in silence

>> No.7134147

>This book is bad because it doesn't explain anything!

Infinite rage. Happened last time looking through popular reviews for VanderMeer's Annihilation

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>>7134085
It is about Class paralysis.

"a sense of fundamental decencies is parceled out unequally at birth."

>> No.7134151

>Oh, I'm not like most people, I actually prefer the book to the film when it comes to "Fight Club"

The fact that anyone unironically likes either astounds me.

>> No.7134152

>>7134151
OH IT SNOWS PALAHNIUK IT SNOWS

>> No.7134153

>>7134147
I thought it explained too much, by the end of the trilogy. The prose was pleb-tier too but I could overlook that.

>> No.7134155

>>7132366

>The cetology chapter in Moby Dick is unnecessary

>> No.7134160

>>7134152
But does it snow all over ireland?

>> No.7134163

>>7134160
Palahniuk is from the United states of America.
Ireland rarely has snow.

>> No.7134164

>I didn't like the book because I didn't like one of the characters

>> No.7134173

>>7134153
Oh, I've read only the first one, where nothing is explained, the way I prefer. Authors over-explaining kill it since their "human" imagination doesn't fit the "inhuman" event. Sad to hear he over-explains by the end...

Have you read the collection he edited, The Weird? Really good stuff in there, especially Jean Ray.

>> No.7134208

>>7133854
so a collection of Jewish fairy tales

>> No.7134215

>>7133836
A complete description of the universe which exists independent time and space the forms of which we see being corrupted by the imperfect universe it's being projected onto?

>> No.7134244

>>7133836
Considering, to whatever end, it has become a cornerstone in mythological texts from the time pf ancient rome onward, its pretty important.

>> No.7134246

>>7133881
>>7133865
Actually, generally people like Catcher in the Rye. The true patrician opinion is to realize the only reason Salinger was ever published is because he is Jewish and the same attribution may explain why Harold Bloom endorsed Catcher.

>> No.7134247

>>7134246
>racism
>patrician

Yeah sure

>> No.7134432

>>7133836
>heavily based off sumerian legends
>jewish

>> No.7134502

>>7132366

>I don't like fiction that makes me feel bummed.

>> No.7134510

3 different people

>I feel the same as you. The idea of words having beauty is totally baffling to me. To me, words are utilitarian tools for conveying information.

>I actively strive to avoid what many call "beautiful" prose. The ideal writing style for me is direct, blunt, literal, descriptive (not expressive), and efficient. It conveys information clearly, rather than breaking my immersion by calling attention to its cleverness (and by extension, the cleverness of the author, who does not exist in the setting and who I therefore do not want to be thinking about while reading).

>Poetic language. It doesn't age well, it usually doesn't read well, and it comes across as masturbatory in nature. I get it, you really like to express your emotions through your descriptions of shit I don't care about.

>> No.7134523

>>7134510
Holy fucking shit.

>> No.7134544

>>7134510
Those people should end themselves, because there is no way they are enjoying life.

>> No.7134555

>>7134164
100% real

>> No.7134575

>I don't have time to read

>> No.7134594

>>7134163
i think he was doing the ending of Joyce's The Dead

>> No.7134610

>>7133292
>"I love Dante! The Inferno is great!"
But Anon, Inferno was the best book.

>>7133836
Full retard. Kill yourself please.

>> No.7134613

>>7134082
I get that and I'm a college graduate.

>> No.7134619 [DELETED] 
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A new dawn is upon us.

4chan. Reddit. 8ch. Twitter. Facebook. Tumblr

The internet has been taken hostage by websites with no freedom of speech, with no fun allowed, pushing their sick propaganda into people as television once did. It's time we anons reclaimed freedom of speech on the internet.

I present you maasterchan.

This is a shitty, 1 year old still under construction chan made to escape the barbarism of the modern internet and to bring civilization to it once again, where people have the right for speech and expression. What makes it different? How was it designed to support muh freedumz? Two things:

>1) Mods can't ban you, nor delete your posts. Instead, moderation consists merely of an On topic/off topic system for threads.. once you go there you'll understand and it worked marvelously. Illegal content is deleted by very few mods, in order to curb the abuse that giving power to your every day faggot mod would bring (like what happened to 8ch).
>2) You can post truly anonymously if you use a "tripcode". It's actually an ID you use that doesn't display a name. If you go there now and post with the anon id tor1 and password tor2, your post won't be saved with your IP like 4chan does, but it will save with that ID. So you can post through any proxy, and by sharing an account with other people there is no way to know who the fuck is making the posts, and the IP can't be backtraced because it is not even stored on the database, or you could be posting through TOR anyway.

Anons, the internet is fun again.

Welcome to shitpost harder [2]

>> No.7134622

>>7134151
They like it because it's the first "deep" movie most people watch as a teenager. Deep as in deals with topics because
>I like him but he doesn't like me back >:(
>I like her but can't tell her
>Oh I don't like you anymore
>No please like me again
>OK :)
>Happy ending

>> No.7134625

>>7134164
This.

>> No.7134634

>>7134099

A-amsterdam...?

>> No.7134635

>>7134544
>>7134523
They're probably STEM autists. Every compsci, IS, math kid at my school loves to bash all of the arts as being unnecessary and thus shouldn't exist. Quite literally fedora tippers that hold super edgy opinions because it's 'efficient' but with no logical or philosophical training that would ensure their opinions are at least well-reasoned. They typically wear furry-con t-shirts, fedoras, and fox tails hanging from their over-sized carpenter jeans.

>> No.7134637

>>7134634
Rotterdam

>> No.7134638

>>7134619
What is this shitty spam? fuck off

>> No.7134643

>>7134622
they like it because they mistake the gay undertones for an affirmation of masculinity. Same with Top Gun

>> No.7134652 [DELETED] 

>>7134638
>spam

I manually post this on every board, finding the proper thread for it. It's hard work anon, you wouldn't understand you neet fuck

>> No.7134654

>>7134164
Jesus Christ I hate people who say that.

>> No.7134656

>>7134643
"Masculinity" is just a subdued form of faggotry though. Ever notice how everyone who goes on and on about it is a cock gargling ass bandit? It's not a coincidence.

>> No.7134662

>>7134652
Jesus, I hope you get banned for life

>> No.7135463

>>7132366
How to identify a /b/tard:
1: Open a book in a public area
2: wait as they come and ask;
>hey wut u readin
3: _ ________<- be polite.
>ayy I laik reading 2
4: Ohh what genre?
>Ayyy yeah Ai laik dat detective shit like Sherlock Holmes ayy like that kind of shit ayy
5: Kill the conversation and leave as smoothly as possible.
That's life in HighSchool for yall

>> No.7135506

>>7134635
>tfw arts-loving STEMfag
no bully

>> No.7135520

>>7135463
>HighSchool
You have to be at least 18 or older to post here

>> No.7135587

>>7134610
>But Anon, Inferno was the best book.

>Implying The Inferno is a single book
>Implying it's not part of the larger beatific vision that is the Divine Comedy.

Congratulations! You are a pleb!

>> No.7136625

>>7135520
Seniors can be 18.

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Today, a fat female theatre student told me that Shakespeare "didn't like writing, because he was an actor, not a writer" and therefore he never intended for ANYBODY to read his plays except the actors. When I said that Hamlet is thematically complex, she said "Thematically complex?" in a bitchy italic tone and rolled her eyes dismissively.

She also said she disliked The Odyssey because she had to read it in a group where members took turns reading pages aloud.

It's my fault for discussing anything with women or students.

>> No.7136909

>>7132366
But The Giver is shit.

>>7136679
Why would you talk to any theatre student?

>> No.7137281

>>7134510
You have to be autistic to think like that. Their life must be so empty.

You should tell them that one of the world's greatest physicists was so aghast at the destructive power of the atomic bomb he could only describe it with a passage from a 4000 year old piece of Hindu scripture ("I am become death")

>> No.7137373

>>7135587
The Inferno WAS a single book you fucking retard. Purgatory and Paradise were the other two books that make up the Divine Comedy. Because it's a three part COMEDY. Not that you'd know what a comedy actually is because you're fucking dense.

>> No.7137383

>>7132366
Comic books are actually good though.

>> No.7137393

>>7137281
he was also a schizo

>> No.7137429

>>7137393
And his brother invented the exploratorium and was a cattle rancher in addition to being a particle physicist.

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>>7132430
It is though, nice meme
Is /lit/ like /tv/ where people say Tarkovsky is shit to pretend to be smart?

>> No.7137657

>>7132366
On a side note, why has Brandon Sanderson caught on all of a sudden? I've heard 6 or 7 people I know mention him, and all I know about his is that he finished off the Wheel of Time.

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>>7137429
Frank looks like a cartoon character

>> No.7137702

>>7134155
But it is, tbh.

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Is this gross?

>Bought books in languages they can't read only because they looked really old
>Wears a Gatsby t-shirt
>"You have to read this!" It's a book by Carl Sagan
>Dresses up as a Fahrenheit 451 character for Halloween

>> No.7137742

>>7137732
sounds like a cool guy, you should probably imitate him and not /lit/

>> No.7138161

>>7137431
Do they really shit on Tarkovsky on /tv/?

>> No.7138169

>>7133881
I had a professor in college who chewed someone out in a lecture when they complained that the book wasn't "relatable". It was amazing.

>> No.7138175

>>7138161
pretentiously trying to be unpretentious

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>>7138175

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>>7138175
I am not sure about that, Tark was pretty pretentious.

>> No.7138220

>>7132432
Is John Green just a pleb or something worse?

>> No.7138259

>be in narrative class in college
>have to analyse the structure of "Berenice"
>bitch says
-This is so outdated bullshit, when I write I just go with the flow, and it always looks good.-

i hate this school.

>> No.7138283

>>7137732
Sounds like me, sans the Carl Sagan books

>> No.7138306

>>7138220
Worse, he's a careerist.

>> No.7138337

>>7138203
turth always being beautiful seems dubious to me. Love his work though, a master.

>> No.7138349

>I tried to read [CLASSIC] once, but it was so boring lol nothing happened

>> No.7138387

>>7134643
These two aren't mutually exclusive. As a homosexual who isn't a faggot, much like Palahniuk, its pretty clear to me that most dudes are feminised in conditioning and since I'm not desperate for pussy I have no reason to hold opinions that are harmful to masculinity in hopes that it will get me laid.

>> No.7138596

>>7134637
What major?

>> No.7138649

>>7138161
He's mostly well loved except for contrarians
I'm assuming /lit/ has a similar reactionary response to Vonnegut because he's easy to get into

>> No.7138671

I was in Chapters the other day and when I asked a cute sales associate for a 20th century lit recommendation, she immediately replied with, "I haven't read it, but Nineteen Eighty-Nine is good."

>> No.7138687

>>7138387

>believes in 'masculinity' on any level

embarrassing as well as oppressive

>> No.7138691

>>7132366
thought it was a picture of Knausgaard at first glance

>> No.7138693

>>7138596
MBO niveau 4, Sociaal-Maatschappelijk Dienstverlener, last year.
Feel my pain of doing MBO in Rotterdam

>> No.7138709

>can't talk interestingly or knowledgeably about literature but considers himself cultured based only on his taste

>> No.7138712

>>7133881
>tfw read Ulysses and I didn't understand that he masturbated
at least I got that he was shitting

>> No.7138741

>>7138693
Someone in MBO actually reads?

>> No.7138766 [DELETED] 

>>7138687
Are you one of those 'omg judy garland' gay guys? Or are you a straight guy who doesn't want to feel guilty about having a cuckold fetish?

>> No.7138782

>>7138741
It's rare, they make you read for the English class but everyone dreads it and picks the shortest book on the recommended list the teacher gives you.

>> No.7138788

>>7134215
No, he didn't ask you about the Vedas.

>> No.7138810

>>7132366
>Can we have a 'shit plebs say' thread?
So every thread on /lit/?

>> No.7139742

>>7138693
>Sociaal-Maatschappelijk Dienstverlener
nice pleb degree

>> No.7140559

>>7138671
>Nineteen Eighty-Nine
>Not 1989

What a pleb she is.

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>>7133292
>>"Game of Thrones is the best fantasy series ever. Far more realistic and gritty than Lord of the Rings. Martin is a visionary."

Someone said that to me two weeks ago, and I literally could not think of a cogent response fast enough so I let it go.
>tfw social ineptitude

>> No.7140666

>>7139742
okay

>> No.7140726

>>7140666
you should remember that you are pleb because of what you do and produce, not because of what you consume. Your faggot friends could be into MLP and still be less of a pleb than you

>> No.7142247

>>7140726
And you of course know what I do and produce.
Suck a dick

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>>7132366
>Great American Novel

>> No.7142274

>holden is an angsty faggot that needs to grow up

>> No.7142281

>>7142247
>Sociaal-Maatschappelijk Dienstverlener
I am going to guess it is shit

>> No.7142295

>>7142281
>Everything you do and produce is linked to your study
uh oh, we're dealing with a moron here.

>> No.7142302

>>7142295
it could be the case that you are producing something great, but likely not considering your studies and that you are on /lit/

>> No.7142311

>>7142302
Exactly, I mean I'm talking to someone who makes big claims about what some anonymous person does and produces, without actually knowing anything about him past what he studies.
And to top it off you take the plebeian/patrician thing to the extreme, claiming one is only patrician if you produce something great. By those standards everyone on this board is pleb, including you.

>> No.7142328

>>7142311
did I say I was a patrician? Most of the posts on /lit/ are not about anything but asserting what is plebeian and what is patrician. Real patricians don't waste much of their lives signaling or worrying about consumption and status.

>> No.7142331

>>7142328
>did I say I was a patrician?
Did I say I was?
>Most of the posts on /lit/ are not about anything but asserting what is plebeian and what is patrician
wrong, and besides, you're the moron actually starting a pleb/patrician discussion, you're the biggest idiot in this thread right now.
>Real patricians don't waste much of their lives signaling or worrying about consumption and status.
Real patricians are born into it, they don't usually go out and produce something great.

>> No.7142343

>>7142331
>Did I say I was?
you implied it with your posts
>wrong, and besides, you're the moron actually starting a pleb/patrician discussion, you're the biggest idiot in this thread right now.
ROFL, what is this thread about?
>Real patricians are born into it, they don't usually go out and produce something great.
it is earned by merit, some people get dealt better starting hands

>> No.7142348

>>7142343
>you implied it with your posts
Not true, I called other people plebs and I called some friends of mine patrician, not a word about myself.
>ROFL, what is this thread about?
Lauging at plebs, not arguing about what makes a patrician or not, lrn2reed
>it is earned by merit, some people get dealt better starting hands
better starting hands is an understatement, the family you were born in is by far the biggest factor in you being a patrician or not.

>> No.7142360

>>7142348
>Not true, I called other people plebs and I called some friends of mine patrician, not a word about myself.
people you do not even know yet you make big claims about them
>Lauging at plebs, not arguing about what makes a patrician or not, lrn2reed
same vacuous shit
>better starting hands is an understatement, the family you were born in is by far the biggest factor in you being a patrician or not.
pleb attitude

>> No.7142365

>>7142360
>people you do not even know yet you make big claims about them
Actually I know them pretty well, we've been in the same class for a year now and have seen each other outside of school. woops, look like a swing and a miss my friend.
>same vacuous shit
You could just admit you're wrong m8.
>pleb attitude
Not even trying to debunk what I'm saying, lovely.
How does it feel to lose an argument against MBO'er?

>> No.7142380

>>7142365
>Actually I know them pretty well, we've been in the same class for a year now and have seen each other outside of school. woops, look like a swing and a miss my friend.
doubt it. You admitted to being antisocial, those people do not open up to you. Why should they, you are probably an asshole
>You could just admit you're wrong m8.
nope, we are talking about 4chan and /lit/
>Not even trying to debunk what I'm saying, lovely
you already have your mind made up, have fun being a disgruntled mediocre civil servant

>> No.7142397

>>7142380
>You admitted to being antisocial
I admitted to being quiet when talking to people who have a completely different taste than I do.
You don't only talk about your taste in books/music/film so when it's not about that, I can talk freely and connect with them.
>you are probably an asshole
I only sometimes shit on their taste, when one girl recommended me The Fault In Our Stars I didn't shit on her taste and recommended her The Breakfast Club, something she enjoyed.
You can hate someone's taste without being a dick to them.
>nope, we are talking about 4chan and /lit/
You were the one who sparked the pleb/patrician debate, something you called the least patrician thing to do.
>you already have your mind made up.
You're disagreeing with me that your family is the biggest factor in whether someone is patrician or not? How could you even disagree with that?
>have fun being a disgruntled mediocre civil servant
This study was a means to get to HBO, since we have a terrible system here that places you in MAVO if you take your Cito toets mediocerely.
Again, making a shitty claim and being terribly wrong.

>> No.7142411

>>7142397
okay bro, you probably can be redeemed

>> No.7142420

>>7142411
>>7142397
>>7142380
>>7142365
>>7142360
>>7142348
>>7142343
>>7142331
>>7142328
>>7142311
>>7142302
>>7142295
>>7142281


A perfect example of shit plebs say