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Thoughts on John Steinbeck?

>> No.7128680


Plagiarized parts of Travels with Charlie, East of Eden and Grapes of Wrath are excellent stories, arguably his shorter stories (Of Mice and Men, The Red Pony) are more timeless. Dabbled in working in Hollywood. Less experimental/more approachable than Faulkner

>> No.7128684


Sorry instead of plagiarized I meant fictionalized. Whoops.

>> No.7128688

Leftist trash

>> No.7128691

i am not american but i consider him one of the best american writers ever

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>> No.7128748

One of the best novelists of all time. Often underrated because "muh
difficulty." Extremely accessible, but more formally innovative than Hemingway (cf. The alternation of chapters on general social, economic, and geophysical conditions with the particular experience of the Joad family in Grapes of Wrath). In Cannery Row he found this gorgeous balance between the comic and the tragic. Of Mice and Men is incredibly moving and morally complex.

In short, I love the 'beck.

>> No.7129082

Has an optimistic approach to human nature and goodness. His books can be read simplistically or complexly with a deep interpretation.

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Great storytelling prose full of insight on humans, be it nature, behavior or psyche. GoW is GOAT american lit. I do find EoE good but overrated.

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>> No.7129102

The tits

East of Eden and Cannery Row especially. The Wayward Bus is similarly lovely actually

>> No.7129107

I like it when /lit/ are on the same terms with something


>> No.7129272

I'm not American, but yeah, he's one of your best writers, but that's just my opinion. For context, I think your other great writers are, DeLillo, Carver, Melville, Wallace, McCarthy.

>> No.7129277

>one of the best american writers ever
he's not even top 30 in america tbqh

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Your resistance=Our penis harder.

>> No.7129323

Honestly, he's not near as bad as Orlo but with the Left now, he'd be like John Stormfront. You know what I'm sayin'

>> No.7129327

He was a drunk too, right?

>> No.7129336

I consider The Grapes of Wrath the closest thing to a perfect novel I've read.

>> No.7129339

how can you even mention Wallace or McCarthy or any of those memes but not Faulkner

>> No.7129345

>grouping me with the political guy
I don't know why you purposely lower the quality of every thread you post in but still complain about Christposter, etc.

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I don't know why you want to be separate yourself from one of the other anons. No one can tell who you are.

So who are the top American writers, from #1 to #Steinbeck

>> No.7129385

>want to be separated from

>> No.7129412

GoW is probably the American epic. It was amazing when I read in high school, the wide panoramic shots of flat landscapes, seasons passing, businesses and farmers mulling away in that distanced POV like ants and that utterly tragic story of the Joads. If I read it now, I'd probably be too jaded and think his antagonisms of businesses exploiting farmers is too black and white, simplistic, even when I'm at my most left.
Canner Row is okay as character studies, too idealized, and Of Mice & Men is fine for the minor sentimental piece that it is. Might read East of Eden since I've just finished the Torah.

>> No.7129418 [DELETED] 

>read it in high school

Fucking end yourself

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>tfw lost Travels with Charlie after getting halfway through

Fuck me, that book was so comfy.

>> No.7129438

>I don't know why you want to be separate yourself from one of the other anons. No one can tell who you are
Our posts were not really related, there is no reason to group them.
>So who are the top American writers, from #1 to #Steinbeck
Steinbeck is literally something like 59 on my list so I'll give you my top ten novelists lad
>Penn Warren

>> No.7129471

I didn't say stop.
You're faking with me.

>> No.7129478

Lit overwhelmingly likes Steinbeck? I'm torn. Good prose but a flawed literary vision.

Travels with Charley is comfy and Of Mice and Men made me cry in HS, though. I didn't find it that moving rereading it in college.

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>> No.7129487

sorry that's all you get fam

>> No.7129508

I just don't really like Faulkner that much, I understand why people would love his work, I just don't. I can't explain it, I'm just not a fan of the way he writes.

>> No.7129526

>a flawed literary vision.
how so?

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>> No.7129549

xD ebic

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>tfw from Monterey-Salinas area and reading this thread
Jeffers is my favorite from the area, but Steinbeck's work is so inherently tied to the land that it's hard to separate the two. His landscape description is fantastic. Better than reality.

>> No.7130110

In East of Eden, he aimed to paint a portrait of the land for his children and succeeding generations.

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>> No.7130989

quoting Bellow:

>At one end Céline, denunciatory, and at the other someone like Bernanos, asserting, but unable to prove concretely, that there are saints still. As for American writers, a good many of them hold before us a decent but exceedingly limited ideal: forbearing, stoical, but of no great capacity, not very passionate, not very strong in thought. This hero is rather abstract, exhibits collective rather than personal traits (I am thinking now of a Steinbeck hero), and shows what is wanted more than what is seen, heard, known. It is almost as though many American writers felt that to confront actuality might be dangerous to our social sympathies, and they do not let the facts gather freely about their superior reality, such as it is.

>> No.7131005

I'm sorry. I'm just on my period so I get crazy. Us girls, right? ;3

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>> No.7131138

I hear that's a beautiful part of the country

>> No.7131370


First words that spring to mine are lovely, cozy, comfy, profound, deep, accessible, wonderful, warm, happy, light-hearted, tragic, comic.

I love Steinbeck. I would even wager to say he's the one that seriously got me into literature, and opened my eyes as to how much it has to offer.

>> No.7131385


hope no one actually believes this is me

>> No.7131398


I got physical shivers when I read Tom Joads speech.

“Then it don’ matter. Then I’ll be all aroun’ in the dark. I’ll be ever’where — wherever you look. Wherever they’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever they’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad an’ — I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry an’ they know supper’s ready. An’ when our folks eat the stuff they raise an’ live in the houses they build — why, I’ll be there. See? God, I’m talkin’ like Casy. Comes of thinkin’ about him so much. Seems like I can see him sometimes.”

>> No.7131409

I'm not the guy you're replying to but I'm also from Monterey-Salinas. Monterey/Carmel/Big Sur area is definitely one of the most beautiful parts of the country. But Salinas is not. It's just miles and miles of fields, and the actual town of Salinas is a poor shithole overridden by Mexican gangs. His famous description of the Gabilan and Santa Lucia mountains over Salinas towards the beginning of East of Eden is quite literally better than reality.

Another thing I learned from growing up in Salinas, Grapes of Wrath is frighteningly accurate today, except with Mexican migrant workers instead of Okies.

>> No.7131416

Jeez I really love that character. I read GoW during christmas and now every christmas I can't stop but think about it, great book.

>> No.7131557

Extremely accessible. Good writer but to call him one of the best of all time is rank hyperbole though, and that's coming from someone who loves him and has read all of his books.

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he looks like salvador dali

>> No.7132898

I think you need glasses.

>> No.7134797

All the Foghorn Leghorn talk got a bit too much for a me, dialect just isn't pretty

>> No.7135478

Love grapes of wrath and the winter of our discontent.

>> No.7135590

it did a good job of capturing the vernacular of the time.

your loss if you can't help but think of foghorn leghorn (which came after and is still a dense comparison that is reaching too far).

>> No.7135819

You from /mu/ /hhg/?

>> No.7135846

Based tbh

>> No.7135852

Nah i just like rap so i have plebty of album pictures

>> No.7136601

I don't even listen or like rap and I know that album is dope. Good taste.

I was cast as Lenny in my school play.

>> No.7136607

Please list top 30

This should be good for a laugh

>> No.7136701

He's great. Not too difficult. Read East of Eden in the spring and really enjoyed it. Good to namedrop if that's your thing.

>> No.7136711

>This should be good for a laugh
>Is a fan of steinbeck
If you want to laugh, just look in the mirror lad.

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>> No.7137025

dae hate him because m-muh right wing? xd

>> No.7137060

Thread theme?


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He couldn't
You have me on filter or something?

>> No.7137846

Why the fuck would the real butterfly be posting at six thirty on a sunday morning? Go to bed woman.

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Well now I know what timezone you're in

>> No.7137895

hiya bae u got kik

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