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Your top 5 stories from Dubliners, not including The Dead. Because that will be in everyone's top 5.

>> No.7105414

>>7105382
Araby painted a nice dusty-air picture, and nose-to-chin was puppet as kek, but...
>tfw don't remember enough of it to honestly answer the question

>> No.7105424

1: A Little Cloud
2: Two Gallants
3: After the Race
4: An Encounter
5: Counterparts

I thought Dubliners was a little bit of a mixed bag, with the quality varying from "huh I don't get it" to masterly. Not Joyce's best, but still worth reading. And I agree, The Dead is definitely the best of the bunch.

>> No.7105434

>>7105382
In no real order

Ivy Day in the Committee Room
Two Gallants
A Little Cloud
A Mother
A Painful Case

>> No.7105456

Araby
A little cloud
Counterpanes
A painful case
Clay

>> No.7105491

Is Joyce enjoyable for non-native speakers who don't know a lot about Irish culture?

>> No.7105577 [DELETED] 

Is it common for people to find this book a little difficult?

I just found all of the stories to be something that by the time I got in tomthemnthey were over.

He really brings the characters and the places tomlife and I'm currently reading Portrait and he does so even more effectively.

>> No.7105581

Is it common for people to find this book a little difficult?

I just found all of the stories to be something that by the time I got in to them they were over.

He really brings the characters and the places to life and I'm currently reading Portrait and he does so even more effectively.

>> No.7105612

>>7105581
I think most of the difficulty comes from its age. It's in that awkward spot where it's old enough to be at least once removed from modern writing but not antiquated enough to feel like it needs to be explained as much as it really does.

The stories themselves are straightforward but the language takes some getting used to.

>> No.7105699

>>7105382
1. A Little Cloud
2. Counterparts
3. An Encounter
4. A Painful Case
5. Clay
>tfw Dubliners is my favorite of Joyce
A-am I a pleb?

>> No.7105719

>>7105612
this, and Portrait is more, i don't know, polished, cohesive.

>> No.7105720

>>7105699
Dubliners has its own sort of charm but Ulysses is definitely the best thing he ever wrote. So kinda.

>> No.7105729

>>7105720
No, his best work is The Portrait, as it is like the golden middle. It's a masterpiece, not too simplistic and generic like the Dubliners, and not too pretentious as Ulysses.

>> No.7105763

>>7105729
Portrait is good but it's mostly James Joyce feverishly masturbating to thoughts of himself.

>> No.7105775

>>7105729
"pretentious" is not a real criticism, dude

>> No.7105793

>>7105491
Yes

>> No.7105810

>>7105729
Portrait was still too caught up in the mundane sort of realism Joyce was obsessed with in Dubliners. Ulysses and Finnegans Wake are where he stopped trying so hard to conform with that realist modality and did his own thing.

If anything, Dubliners and Portrait were more pretentious in that they tried to affect a sense of "importance" as being honest to life in the most blunt way possible at the time. Calling Ulysses, and especially Finnegans Wake pretentious is disingenuous because they don't take themselves as seriously as the people reading them do.

>> No.7105842

>>7105810
To me Finnegans Wake was Joyce sticking two fingers up to the modernists. They were trying so hard to make things inaccessible and Joyce comes along and makes the most impenetrable book in history making their efforts completely in vain. Pretty funny really.

>> No.7105854

>>7105842
It was definitely a "farced epistol to the hibruws".

>> No.7105862

>tfw you just picked up a bargain secondhand copy of Ulysses and it turns out to be the universally reviled 'Reader's Edition'
Goddammit. Still, 20p is 20p.

>> No.7105869

In no order:

1. A Painful Case
2. A Little Cloud
3. Araby
4. Grace
5. Counterparts

>> No.7106068

The end to Counterparts was really brutal. Something about the speed with which it happens and the bluntness of the prose really hits you hard. Although not as hard as it hit Tom.

I only finished it the other day but why is The Dead so highly praised? I loved it but wondered why it ranks so highly compared to the rest.

>> No.7106075

>>7106068
It's mostly the passage at the end I think.

>> No.7106218

>>7106075
yes, not just but mostly

>> No.7106352

>>7105699
No, but you are wrong.