This man... In my country he is everything.

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Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:15:50 2015 No.7105125 [Reply] [Original]

This man... In my country he is everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:17:24 2015 No.7105128 >>7105125 Any tips for who he is going to pick as Shadow Chancellor? Any recommendations interesting UK politics books?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:26:40 2015 No.7105147 BASED A S E D CORBYN O R B Y N

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:27:48 2015 No.7105150 What does based actually mean?

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:37:35 2015 No.7105161

Damn these mixed feelings. On the one hand it's about time Labour actually stood up for some of the values and people it's supposed to represent and stopped being a slightly softened variant of Thatcherism.

On the other hand, there was a reason Labour went so far to the right, and I suspect it's that the British public is rightwing as hell. Which means Tories from here on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:38:43 2015 No.7105162 >>7105161 time to embrace the abyss i guess this country can go to hell tbh #accelerate

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:40:43 2015 No.7105164 >>7105125 But did he read Marx?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:41:02 2015 No.7105166 File: 93 KB, 552x657, 1441489967531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck off /leftypol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:46:53 2015 No.7105173 >>7105164 he said he's read some marx but not much. i'd expect miliband to have been much more conversant with marxism tbh https://youtu.be/iXzd-AeS23c?t=880 (14:55)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:48:32 2015 No.7105175 >>7105162 I guess the good news is that a few decades of the Tories' neo-Victorian policies should produce a sufficiently large and impoverished underclass to either vote Labour in or put heads on spikes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:52:06 2015 No.7105177 >>7105175 i expect the whole country is going to look a lot more like london

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 05:58:37 2015 No.7105187 >>7105175 >put heads on spike Ian Bone and Class War would finally get their chance at leading a revolution then lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:09:51 2015 No.7105210 File: 27 KB, 448x290, 15253-26734-15381.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7105175 5 years of big lad Dave and no class consciousness lad, i'm loving it. I wouldn't get your hopes up there Jez.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:12:11 2015 No.7105212 >>7105210 brits don't deserve class consciousness. they deserve to be fed into the meat machine of capitalism at full blast

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:12:22 2015 No.7105213 Corbyn is so based.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:26:39 2015 No.7105239

>>7105210
>>7105212
The UK is the country in Europe with the strongest class consciousness, it is just that it is the upper class hating on the lower classes, the middle class wanting to be the upper class while hating on the lower class and the lower class being numb and self-loathing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:48:26 2015 No.7105265 running dogs to the gulag NOW

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 06:54:51 2015 No.7105274 >>7105210 What the fuck does UKIP getting 12% of the vote mean? Dumb cunt

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:25:19 2015 No.7105314 >>7105166 >>>>/pol/ >everything left of fascism is a conspiracy by da joos

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:27:06 2015 No.7105317 >>7105265 PURGE THE BLAIRITES!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:29:46 2015 No.7105325 File: 47 KB, 596x700, We-have-found-new-homes-for-the-rich.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7105317

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:32:05 2015 No.7105329 >>7105150 Someone who recognises that we are bipedal organisms, constrained to a rock via a spooky force known as gravity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:32:58 2015 No.7105331 JC our lord and saviour

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:35:12 2015 No.7105334

>>7105329
gravity isn't spooky
It still effects you even if you don't believe in it.

And Based actually is an old insult, meaning something was "base" or rough, unformed etc.

Then Lil B called himself the based god, i.e. a rough version of god.

Then internet idiots didn't know what it meant and it became a meme.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:35:29 2015 No.7105335 >>7105125 In comes Corbachev to issue a new era of Jerestroika.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:36:04 2015 No.7105336 >>7105177 Oh god. >same generic capitalist ridden high street in every part of the country >gentrified housing starting at £800k >muh gastro pubs/artisan coffee shops >everywhere looks the same We are becoming americanised tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:38:08 2015 No.7105339 >>7105334 Prescriptive, let me introduce you to Descriptive language.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:41:45 2015 No.7105344

>>7105334
>It still effects you even if you don't believe in it
Nah m8, if you lose faith in Gravity you can transcend it and float away into the void

I always assumed another definition of based was that someone was down to earth, as in they had a basis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:46:36 2015 No.7105351 >>7105336 >gastro pubs fucking chips in a bucket m8 FUCKING CHIPS IN A BUCKET

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:46:42 2015 No.7105352
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>>7105239
>Generally speaking, it must be said that of all the ruling classes, the ruling classes of England, both the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie, proved to be the cleverest, most flexible from the point of view of their class interests, from the point of view of maintaining their power.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:52:05 2015 No.7105360 File: 993 KB, 1023x877, Screen Shot 2015-09-12 at 12.51.35.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7105351 have you seen this twitter https://twitter.com/WeWantPlates

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:53:54 2015 No.7105366 >>7105351 only £10 m8 truss me fam the best chunky chips u can buy tbh and you can have a bottle of beer with that for only £6!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:54:58 2015 No.7105369 top kek https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/642655804684902401

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 07:57:18 2015 No.7105374 >>7105352 Where's this from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:00:12 2015 No.7105380 >>7105374 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLazJKggCd0 It's from one of his speeches

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:01:06 2015 No.7105381 >>7105325 A WWII cemetery? You're weird.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:01:50 2015 No.7105384 >>7105374 An interview Stalin did with H.G. Wells in 1934. Quite interesting actually. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/04/h-g-wells-it-seems-me-i-am-more-left-you-mr-stalin

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:02:36 2015 No.7105386 >>7105366 6 fucking quid for a beer A BOTTLE I'm triggered.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:08:51 2015 No.7105397 >>7105381 It's a British anarchist poster from the '80s.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:09:59 2015 No.7105398 >>7105386 And that's the standard price. I've ordered a bottle in central before, handed over a tenner, no change returned. Would rather get a 3L bottle of frosty jacks from the corner shop and sit in a park tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:13:44 2015 No.7105402 >>7105369 >donald trump It's scary how Americans will vote for him for being entertaining.... DFW was right

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 08:27:39 2015 No.7105427 File: 28 KB, 640x216, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm excited to see what reactionary articles the right-wing media will run

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:05:45 2015 No.7105493 long live socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:17:42 2015 No.7105517 >>7105325 Why are proletarians so willing to bite the hand that feeds them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:20:17 2015 No.7105523 >>7105369 >>7105402 I read this blogpost recently, it really makes a good point about how Trump and Corbyn have a lot in common. slatestarcodex.com/2015/09/03/theses-on-trump/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:23:15 2015 No.7105532 >>7105517 you mean the the hand that only feeds the scraps

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:25:26 2015 No.7105536 >>7105523 that blogpost is reaching at best. load of bollocks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:26:04 2015 No.7105540 >>7105532 Scraps is what you get. Once you go full Robin Hood and kill the golden goose, you won't even have that. Always remember: wealth is created, NOT distributed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:27:07 2015 No.7105542 >>7105427 At this stage half of the phrase 'right-wing media' is redundant. Even the Guardian hates Corbyn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:29:17 2015 No.7105549 >>7105540 Except nobody is advocating for going full Robin Hood. And the proverbial Golden Goose is just a place holder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:30:17 2015 No.7105556 >>7105542 >Even the Guardian hates Corbyn No they don't, they just wanted Yvette to win.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:42:59 2015 No.7105591 File: 1.26 MB, 2048x1536, v218-Jeremy-Corbyn-Get.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This one is for you, comrades

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:50:32 2015 No.7105617 where can i cop that cardy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:56:53 2015 No.7105629 >>7105591 thank :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 09:59:18 2015 No.7105637 >>7105540 Wealth is both created and distributed. Largely upwards, at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 10:01:49 2015 No.7105641 >>7105162 I know that feel. Given how easy it is to leave the country, it's a wonder there are any young people left in England at all. The country is basically eating its young.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 10:51:37 2015 No.7105773 >>7105641 what the hell are you on about apart from that last sentence?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 10:59:03 2015 No.7105785 >>7105175 You fuckers have been dreaming about revolution for 150 years and it still hasn't happened and it never will It's the left's version of the zombie apocalypse

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:02:18 2015 No.7105790 >>7105239 >The UK is the country in Europe with the strongest class consciousness >upper, middle, lower class I hope you're not from the UK cause it's certainly not helping your claim

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:05:40 2015 No.7105800 >>7105384 what you quoted is common knowledge, I've never read good insights by Stalin that weren't already articulated years before by others.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:18:27 2015 No.7105826

>>7105773
It's very easy to leave England. Why incur huge debts to study at a British university when there are plenty of free or very cheap European ones? Why spend most of your daily hours working just to funnel money into a landlord's pocket, when you could be actually making money, having fun and learning things in another country?

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:12:07 2015 No.7105946

>>7105556

tbh the guardian has become a bastion of the psuedo-left

they slander left-wing countries like ecuador and venezuela because they harbor assange or because they arn't pro-US enough and they feature stuff all the time that calls for regime change in syria

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:19:13 2015 No.7105957 File: 96 KB, 619x400, Party-support-in-general--004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7105946 >become

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:23:20 2015 No.7105970 >>7105125 >>/pol/

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:30:06 2015 No.7105985

>>7105173
Like the very sly remarks concerning transition theory. Though Corbyn mentions the transition into capitalism as the most interesting aspect of Marx, it's clear enough that he's probably been doing quite a bit of thinking regarding what that might portend for a transition away from capitalism.

Corbyn starts at the right place: recapturing the commons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:36:51 2015 No.7106009 >>7105957 but then again the main parties have been known to deviate from their core ideologies - Labour in particular. That's just something to consider, I'm not putting forth an argument though.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:45:34 2015 No.7106032

>>7105946
I see what you mean. I wouldn't say that they were psuedo-left though but more centre-left, I haven't fully developed my thoughts on their politics tbh, my interest in politics is relatively premature. That being said some articles do make my eyes roll into the back of my head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:53:17 2015 No.7106048 File: 51 KB, 340x399, 1420328761497.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Why yes I believe in socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:53:36 2015 No.7106051 so many corbynLADs on twitter now. ugh. think i'll support tories from now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:56:45 2015 No.7106059 >>7106051 You'll come crawling back when you've had enough of the #Torybantz.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:10:49 2015 No.7106268 >>7106051 good

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:15:11 2015 No.7106281 >>7106051 >on twitter now. ugh. what are you doing

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:15:13 2015 No.7106282 >>7105125 zizek really lost some weight

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:28:50 2015 No.7106327

>>7105946
The Guardian is basically just a SDP front that transformed into this strange, chattering neoliberal platform at some point in the past few decades.

It is populated by, as the cliché goes, Oxbridge graduates who jumped into journalism, who like the emotive 'feel-good' buzz that comes from pseudo-leftist positions and the sense of self-righteousness borne from constantly harping on about identity politics and fourth wave feminism. They are bien pensant to their very core, and what is more disgusting than their charlatanism is the sheer lack of awareness of being bien pensant.

Meanwhile, as anyone who looks inside the bonnet will notice, it's owned by Scott Trust Ltd - essentially just a media conglomerate of ex-bankers, corporatists and hyper-rich individuals who literally represent the antithesis of what the 'common' editorial position of the Guardian is reckoned to be.

Their support of the Lib Dems and their pretty disgraceful coverage of Corbyn is indicative of their true leanings as a publication. They epitomise, in my view, everything that is wrong with the British Left these days

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:39:58 2015 No.7106509 >>7106327 Well said. I've started reading the Indy, but their website is shite.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:47:17 2015 No.7106536

>>7106509
The indy is worse lad. Get adblocker and browse a range of shitty British rags like the Guardian, Independent and the Telegraph to get the general gist of things but if you want actually want some substance then read LRB, Granta, N+1, Dissent and etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:52:41 2015 No.7106552 >>7105150 it means 'i hope reality itself gets cancer'

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:53:47 2015 No.7106554 >>7106536 brap brap brap, LRB. Too bad I'm skint most of the time and I have to borrow second-hand copies from the library.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:02:20 2015 No.7106582 >>7106554 Charity shops (depending on where you live) can be your savior, my local Oxfam bookstore was selling Granta's from the past year for £2 a pop

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:10:36 2015 No.7106605 >>7106327 >moaning about '4th wave' feminism >using the phrase 'bien pensant' twice in one sentence embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:23:16 2015 No.7106658 >>7105540 >Always remember: wealth is created By workers and researchers, not by "managers" who use their power to misappropriate the fruits of productive labor to themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:32:03 2015 No.7106688 >>7105125 LITERALLY /POL/ FUCK OFF

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:33:51 2015 No.7106694

>>7105549
Get rid of managers, see what happens.
Hell, there are already worker-owned cooperatives. Some of them are successful, and good for them, but most of them fail to rise to a level that is able to compete with large corporations. Maybe entrepreneurs and investors aren't so parasitic after all!

I swear to God, if schools taught economics properly there wouldn't be so many fucking leftists in this world. I live in a post-commie country and trust me, you people wouldn't want to live in those times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:35:29 2015 No.7106703 I bet you can't name me one fucking successful country with lefty policies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:36:39 2015 No.7106708 >>7106703 Define "success".

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:40:00 2015 No.7106720

>>7106694
Because it's harder for a group of workers to obtain large sums of money to invest. Instead the government could give workers associations grants to start up worker-owned businesses. This could exist in a market based system. And individual entrepreneurs could still try to solicit funds from private investors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:44:12 2015 No.7106742 >>7106708 Not Degenerate Economically succesful Keeps it's tradition Isn't infested by jews

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:58:14 2015 No.7106792 >>7106742 Democratic Kampuchea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:00:22 2015 No.7106796 >>7106742 Could you name a country that applies to? Political orientation doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:03:08 2015 No.7106801 >>7105536 >>7105523 >>7105536 slate star codex is famous for really long, intelligent-sounding posts that are really good at disguising that they're pretty much all opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:06:57 2015 No.7106813 >>7106554 >>7106536 ayyyy LRB lads

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:08:48 2015 No.7106818 >>7106742 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:11:15 2015 No.7106824 >>7106801 >that are really good at disguising that they're pretty much all opinion. I don't feel like its a disguise at all. Scott is pretty straight forward that "this is what I think".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:17:23 2015 No.7106843 >>7106582 must lurk in more Islington charity shops

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:17:43 2015 No.7106846 So is this entire board actually full of filthy commies or are you guys just pretending to be retarded. I don't like this meme very much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:20:37 2015 No.7106855 >>7106605 Have you got any points at all? Or are you just going to shitpost?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:22:49 2015 No.7106858 >>7106846 All of the people who went to 8gag and promised to never ever return have somehow found their way back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:37:27 2015 No.7106903 >>7105957 in the key the conservative/liberal circle is blue-yellow, but in the times column its yellow-blue. m-m-m-muh autism!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:43:18 2015 No.7106920 >>7106801 You don't think that one didn't put forward any arguments at all?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:46:27 2015 No.7106931 >>7106846 >anyone on 4chan who doesn't blindly support the right wing just because they hate immigrants must be memeing there's a board for you

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:48:37 2015 No.7106938 >>7106843 Shit, imagine meeting one of you lot on the streets

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:50:38 2015 No.7106945 >>7106536 Don't forget, for anyone out there who's interested, Jacobin and the NYRB.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:50:53 2015 No.7106946 Why is there a thread about Corbyn on /lit/? Does thsi mean I can make a thread about Bernie Sanders?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:45:47 2015 No.7107115 >>7106931 Who said it was mandatory to support the right wing? I just want to know why there are so many people rubbing their dicks against the left pole in this thread (and board in general).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:16:38 2015 No.7107191 >>7107115 In not so many words, you did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:28:04 2015 No.7107220 >>7106946 no, because mods are stupid americans who think corbyn is a writer or something

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:35:39 2015 No.7107237
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>>7106048
>mfw even the most vocal super-wealthy advocate for socialist or social-democratic policies
>mfw the only people who advocate for 'free-market'ism are disgruntled economics and STEM majors who realized that those kinds of degrees are no guarantee for any kind of job in a globalized economy where their labor can just be got cheaper from elsewhere
>mfw the super wealthy are beginning to turn on the other super wealthy in manners that, far from being competitive or integrationary, are leading to what could only be described as out and out war for Capital

Nigga you don't have to be poor, a socialist or even a leftist to see that globalist capitalism is negative.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:38:40 2015 No.7107246

The roots of capitalism are in the desire of people to make their lives easier.
Capital is given to individuals who want to benfit themselves by supplying people with what they might want.
If they succeed in finding what the people awnt and fullfilling that need they gain more worth that allows them more luxuries and an easier living.
Eventually we get big companies and unifications for the production and dispersion of high cost products.
Such companies fuel and create new desires for them to fullfil.
If you can come up with a reason for why someone would decide to spend time from his life creating a dishwasher that is not material gain you will have overcome capitalism.
Unfortunately no automation or technological advance will make capitalsim absolete since ease of living and quality of life is always relative.
Even if overcome natural death and manual labour there will be further qualtiy of life goals and nessecities that would require relativly unwelcome effort for which one would need some sort of material remuneration.

The only way out of this is though some drastic paradigm shift in culture and philosophy and in general in how we view humans and society.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:41:01 2015 No.7107253
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He's the only chance this country has from staving off doom. If the electorate does not make him PM, they can burn as far as I'm concerned.

To have that opportunity and squander it...

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:43:28 2015 No.7107264 >>7105427 what ring-wing media? The spectator? The economist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:46:32 2015 No.7107271 File: 206 KB, 500x326, Blighters.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7107264 Them and the Mail and the Telegraph and the Standard and the Express and Sky and the Times and Sunday Times, and on particularly bad days, the BBC. Shall I go on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:00:59 2015 No.7107302 >>7107246 >The roots of capitalism are in the desire of people to make their lives easier. ..by having other people do things for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:02:54 2015 No.7107305 File: 1.83 MB, 320x190, Altruism.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7107302 B-but muh enterprise and self-made man!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:05:32 2015 No.7107312 File: 46 KB, 1200x774, tsipras.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whoop de fucking do. Everybody jump on collaboration train. You fuckers learn nothing.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:15:15 2015 No.7107344

>>7107305
If inheritance didn't taint the whole thing and we really were made to order, Horatio Alger wouldn't be so far off, but there is no point in crying over spilt milk. Nobody is self-made when they are prey for their parents.

Which is why actual communist will absolutely not back down from the ruthless crushing of the family unit and patriarchy as it is the basis for Locke's natural law and Liberal Dogma.

Unlike all these little Orwellite peckers who bitch about the condition of "middle class families" and other shit. Fucking pseuds. A few of them even have the gall to call themselves Marxists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:27:19 2015 No.7107379 >>7107264 >The economist About as central as you come mate. Pretty much Lib Dems without the poor rep: the paper Oh and also all of >>7107302

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:30:35 2015 No.7107389 File: 15 KB, 207x191, MuhSensibilities.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7107379 >implying lib dems and economist aren't right wing

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:49:02 2015 No.7107452 >>7107271 The Mail went apoplectic within minutes of his win. It was balls to the wall venom and will be for weeks. UK politics just got really interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:49:33 2015 No.7107453 >>7107253 the electorate is so fucking stoopid, if Newsnight's interviews with the public during the Labour leader electio is any indication that is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:50:33 2015 No.7107456 >>7107452 that sounds delicious

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:56:09 2015 No.7107471
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>>7107452

We may find this sort of thing funny but, depressingly, the absolute nonsense these papers churn out will actually make an impact on people's voting intentions.

The relatively mild abuse poor Ed received in the tabloids destroyed his chances of premiership. Now consider this: before Corbyn even became leader of the Opposition, the Mail was threatening civil war.

I trust you've seen the Eye's recent comparison of what Corbyn actually said versus the newspaper's headlines? These right-wing journos have no shame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 21:05:54 2015 No.7107498 >>7107471 >british journalism

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 21:56:37 2015 No.7107637 >>7106536 lrb is good but just ignore zizek articles. chomsky says that the reads the ft (capitalists don't lie to other capitalists)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 22:00:27 2015 No.7107648 >>7107379 the economist is oxbridge feel-good liberalism. everything would be a little better if they were markets. they never make a critique that is not this

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:08:00 2015 No.7107871 >>7107253 I can't believe people think like this lmao

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:11:15 2015 No.7107881

>>7107871
it's true. living standards in the developed world have been going down since the turn to neoliberalism and it's about to accelerate at quite a pace once the next global recession hits. unemployment and crime are going to be increasing significantly over the next couple decades and social mobility will be near nonexistent. we're already almost there. the only way out is socialism. it just depends on how long it takes people to realize this.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:11:32 2015 No.7107882

>>7105125
This man is an economically, culturally and philosophically illiterate cunt without an ounce of respect from people outside of the student bubble.

>>7107452
You do realise that above all else "m-muh Murdoch" would've wanted this win, right? It puts your vilified Conservatives in power for the next ten years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:13:21 2015 No.7107888 >>7107881 there is no way out tbh we're all doomed

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:14:38 2015 No.7107892

>>7107302
Capitalism is the ladder, socialism is creating a society of seabed snails who do nothing but 'exist'. As if 'existing' itself is good enough.

>>7107237
Anyone with a brain is anti-socialist you moron. It's a money burner and provides incentive for lazy immigrants and the like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:16:35 2015 No.7107897 >>7105314 >everything right of communism is a conspiracy by the capitalists >>>/reddit/

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:17:35 2015 No.7107902

>>7106846
This board mostly defines itself in opposition to all the other boards
It's a sort of cultural cringe
None of them can argue for the economic side of things
>>7107881
He literally believes in printing money you spastic
The Nouvelle Droite has become a more credible revolutionary force than any 'movement' on the left

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:19:09 2015 No.7107906 >>7107881 Jesus Christ this fucking thread is insane. I now understand why everyone constantly ascribes pseudo-intellectualism to people on /lit/. You think reading about Marx gives you an enlightened perspective on politics and economics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:20:03 2015 No.7107909 >>7107902 >He literally believes in printing money you spastic Learn about sovereign currency.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:21:35 2015 No.7107914

>>7107906
What does that post have to do with Marx? It is simple observation of the direction in which the developed economies are going. The coming decades will have mass unemployment, high crime, very low social mobility and degraded social services if we keep on this trajectory, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The only way to prevent the developed economies (especially the US and the UK) from becoming Brazil-tier countries of gated communities and massive slums is socialism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:24:46 2015 No.7107926 >>7107902 you failed to mention where that extra cash would be allocated to. It has been stated how QE would be used.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:26:32 2015 No.7107931 >>7105147 T E F L O N T R O T E F L O N T R O T S K Y I S T

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:27:58 2015 No.7107937 >>7107931 Fuck off Matthew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:32:33 2015 No.7107954 >>7107926 That's the funniest part, he's calling it "the people's quantitative easing" It doesn't matter where he's allocating it you stupid fuck it's still an unsound policy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:34:45 2015 No.7107964 >>7107954 No it's not. Read this http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=31626

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:37:40 2015 No.7107974 >>7107954 >>7107964 also read this http://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2015/08/debt/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:43:56 2015 No.7107996 >>7105402 http://blog.dilbert.com/post/126589300371/clown-genius Really opened my eyes about the public image of politicians

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:51:08 2015 No.7108020 >>7107964 >>7107974 Address the point directly and in your own words

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:53:26 2015 No.7108031

>>7108020
I could but it's a complicated question and a full explanation would require tons of writing, and if more qualified people than me have already done so why wouldn't I link them?

In short, Corbyn's policy is good because unlike something like the Euro, the pound is a sovereign currency and thus the UK's government has no constraints on issuing pounds. The UK can spend as much as it wants, its only constraint is inflation. New money spent that goes to creating new goods and services that would not be otherwise demanded will not lead to runaway inflation, and given the UK's low productivity despite being a wealth, developed country and level of underemployment, it has enough fallow productive capacity that it should be able to meet the increases in spending with increases in real output.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:07:48 2015 No.7108086 >>7107312 Except Corbyn is actually a socialist who is interested in enacting material moves towards socialism. Tsipras and Syriza were first and foremost only attempts at anti-austerity. Nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:13:41 2015 No.7108104 >>7108031 But it will lead to demand push inflation Also revenue is most certainly a constraint

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:15:56 2015 No.7108114 >>7108104 >But it will lead to demand push inflation Not if production can meet demand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:17:44 2015 No.7108122 >>7106742 Oh my. After spending a few days browsing /pol/ I came to the conclusion its probably one of the dumbest boards on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:19:31 2015 No.7108129 >>7108104 Wrong on both counts. Inflation only becomes an at capacity; revenue matters not a jot when doing QE.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:21:24 2015 No.7108142 >>7108086 There isnt the proper philosophical background today to allow one to succeed in such an endevour, and even if I am wrong and such a basis already exists then this guy definitely does not know about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:26:42 2015 No.7108164 What's it like to live in the england

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:31:12 2015 No.7108180 >>7108164 Its alright really. Great countryside, good pub culture, ridiculously good history, always something interesting to do, and the people are really understated. I like being British a lot of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:36:35 2015 No.7108196 >>7108129 But we're talking PQE not QE

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:39:26 2015 No.7108205 >>7108180 >'good' pub culture >always something interesting to do l m a o

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:43:21 2015 No.7108214 >>7108196 Irrelevant distinction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:47:41 2015 No.7108228 >>7108205 >he doesn't think England has a good pub culture uh, what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:49:53 2015 No.7108238 Leftists are cucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:52:20 2015 No.7108250 >>7108214 But those blog posts said the distinction was important If you're talking actual QE then it will necessarily lead to inflation eventually

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 00:56:41 2015 No.7108264 >>7105125 cons have guaranteed majority every election until he's gone wew lads

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:00:11 2015 No.7108274 >>7108264 labour will win in 2020. the next global recession that happens in the interim will help them when the conservatives do nothing to fix the massive unemployment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:03:15 2015 No.7108281 >>7108274 Labour will not win in 2020 Europe is moving further and further to the right

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:05:43 2015 No.7108288 >>7108250 It's irrelevant to your point about revenue. >eventually Key word. The question is how much QE is required, and when to stop. Neither inflation nor low productivity are desirable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:07:29 2015 No.7108293 >>7108180 do you live in holes in the ground like hobbits? i think that sounds incredibly cozy

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:09:57 2015 No.7108300 >>7108293 I live in a 1960s commieblock, and I still live a ten minute walk from a castle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:11:16 2015 No.7108302 >>7105314 >fascism not being leftist

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:32:17 2015 No.7108365 Anyone else feel like the UK is a decaying carcass at this point?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:56:21 2015 No.7108411 >>7108365 Not really. Have you been diagnosed with depression?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:58:29 2015 No.7108421 >>7108365 all i can say is 'read sam kriss' https://samkriss.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/united-kingdammerung/

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:03:08 2015 No.7108433 >>7108365 Everyone feels that way about the West in general

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:05:44 2015 No.7108440 >>7108433 and everyone always has done, we've always been a few years from collapsing

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:19:36 2015 No.7108473 >>7108365 >>7108440 >>7108433 then where's the innovation? China? Russia? Nope. The west is still where the ideas are.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:50:29 2015 No.7108513

As an American, it's sad to see the austerity-pushing, anti-Europe Tories basically get handed the 2020 election with Corbyn's ascension. Labour lost because the last election because they were too left wing so they respond by becoming even more left wing?

At some point, you have to move more to the center in order to win an election so you can prevent further austerity measures. It's about being a pragmatic reformer, not an outraged idealist. That's what Blair understood, even though Labour seems to hate him now after disastrously winning three elections.

Don't you want to win an election? Conservatives are celebrating Corbyn being elected opposition leader.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:51:48 2015 No.7108515 >>7108440 nope

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:04:44 2015 No.7108534 >>7108365 normal teemage/ya thoughts, nothing to worry about. Nest leaving processes in your mind are making the home seem less welcome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:54:08 2015 No.7108637 File: 131 KB, 640x640, goalllls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7108513 >>7108513 >anti Europe Tories Don't talk about stuff you don't understand you mong

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:56:32 2015 No.7108644 >>7108421 tfw people I know from twitter are getting linked to on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 04:07:05 2015 No.7108663 >>7108264 They were going to win anyway, does anyone actually think andy liverpool, mini cooper or mrs blair stood a chance either?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 04:22:12 2015 No.7108691 >>7108473 Innovation doesn't need to exist Chinese hegemony will make the world want the West back

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 05:38:54 2015 No.7108844 Corbyn believes in homeopathy and thinks it should be publicly funded LMFAO

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:46:41 2015 No.7108961 >>7108421 Sam Kriss is good

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:00:21 2015 No.7108993 >>7107237 >Sent from my iPhone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:03:36 2015 No.7109004 >>7108086 Your point is nothing more than naive revisionism tbh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:06:12 2015 No.7109009 >>7108844 Damn, really? This damages him in my eyes far more than anything so far flung his way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:34:00 2015 No.7109046 >>7108844 not true. he says that there's no harm in it being available on the nhs if there's placebo effects. he's not a homeopathy crusader >>7109009 don't believe the lies

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:35:27 2015 No.7109050 >>7108961 He misused the word "isomorphic" once so I'm never going to take him seriously again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:54:40 2015 No.7109067 >>7109046 You can like him for whatever reasons you want, but Corbyn specifically took political action in support of quack medicine. It's honestly kind of sad the lengths people will go to defend the stupid shit their favorite politicians do

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:59:30 2015 No.7109072 >>7107389 >capitalists >right-wing They are disgusting democratic trash, they aren't even close to being right-wing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:08:11 2015 No.7109085 File: 193 KB, 332x356, le reactionary face.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7109072 hello #nrx

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:20:25 2015 No.7109104

God damn it, why are /lit/ mods such a bunch of faggot leftists?

If I made a thread about Nigel Farage, it would get deleted in under 5 minutes and I would get banned.

But this is perfectly a-ok because it's a thread about a fucking commie.

/lit/ is a joke

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:22:40 2015 No.7109107 >>7109050 That's enough for you to write someone off?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:23:50 2015 No.7109111 >>7109107 i'm guessing he's joking actually this is 4chan where autists reside so maybe he's not

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:24:46 2015 No.7109112 >>7109104 Identity politics my friend. You can imagine what would go down in a pro-Farage thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:28:16 2015 No.7109114 >>7109112 you have the entire website to yourself. begrudge us not our inconsequential leftist outpost

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:28:20 2015 No.7109115 culture in its traditional form is being abolished

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:31:57 2015 No.7109121 >>7109104 Mods are sitewide. You just didn't report the thread with enough proxies

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:33:01 2015 No.7109123 >>7109111 Indeed, and I even unfollowed him on Twitter because of that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:38:30 2015 No.7109124 >>7109121 I never report threads. I'm not a butthurt leftist tumblrina

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:40:14 2015 No.7109131 >>7109124 Well, I reported it for you since it's making you butthurt anyway, and you're unwilling to swallow your pride and report it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:41:12 2015 No.7109132 >>7109131 It's not about swallowing pride, it's about believing in free speech. I'm not wishing for future leftist threads to be deleted, I'm wishing for future right-wing threads NOT to be deleted

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:43:38 2015 No.7109136 >>7109132 pretty sure loads of right-wing natured threads have not been deleted. You sure you're not experiencing confirmation bias? It happens to the best of us from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:43:44 2015 No.7109137 >>7109132 But why should we be talking about politicians on the literature board? This board should be for talking about poetry, and nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:46:03 2015 No.7109142 >>7109137 In these cases if the conversation is worth having and people seem to be taking a keen interest in discussing the politics of x, in the environment /lit/, provides then why not?

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:46:03 2015 No.7109143

>>7109136
>pretty sure loads of right-wing natured threads have not been deleted.
Pretty sure you haven't been here very long.

>>7109137
Because politics and literature are intrinsically linked. Banning politics from literature discussion is akin to banning instruments from a music concert.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:47:38 2015 No.7109145 >>7109143 Come on now, don't go resorting to assuming anything on anybody's part.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:48:10 2015 No.7109147 >>7109136 They totally have. Not sure about recently, but I've been in plenty of threads which got deleted while I was in the middle of arguing against /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:48:15 2015 No.7109148 >>7109143 Tell me what this thread has to do with the politics of poetry, then, and please try not to use any retarded mental gymnastics in doing so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:49:48 2015 No.7109149 >>7109145 All right. I suggest you create a similar thread to this one about Orban or some other right wing person and see how long it lasts... >>7109148 Literature is not limited to poetry, y'know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:50:21 2015 No.7109150 >>7109148 >mental gymnastics

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:52:39 2015 No.7109155 >>7109149 >Literature is not limited to poetry, y'know. It totally is. The quality of a literary work is judged by how well it functions as a poem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:52:41 2015 No.7109156 >>7105125 >>>>>>>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:53:47 2015 No.7109159 >>7109149 Deal. When/if I come up with something interesting to say from a right-wing perspective I will make one. But the possible flaw in that would be that my query will not come from a genuine place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:54:56 2015 No.7109161 >>7109155 D'aww now don't go letting up that quickly.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:55:45 2015 No.7109164
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>>7109155
How the heck would you transcribe Marx into a poem? Or is Marx not literature?

>>7109159
All righty. Just to warn you, I once got banned for making a slightly provocative thread against leftism (pic related)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:57:18 2015 No.7109169 >>7109164 You can talk about Marx on /pol/ or the nonexistent /phil/

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:57:28 2015 No.7109170 >>7109114 >us

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:58:32 2015 No.7109175 >>7109169 >or the nonexistent /phil/ What's the point of creating a million boards for every niche? Philosophy falls under literature, it makes sense to discuss it here. So does history, and whether you like or not, politics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:58:44 2015 No.7109176 >>7109164 I reported this thread so hopefully it gets deleted and OP banned for 24 whole hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:00:26 2015 No.7109178 >>7109175 Politics isn't inherently literary, and this thread is a testament to that. I dont' think Corbyn's even published any books

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:02:05 2015 No.7109180

>>7109178
>Politics isn't inherently literary, and this thread is a testament to that.
Sure, but discussing political works of literature on this board makes sense.

This thread is shit, I agree. The only reason it's still up is because /lit/ mods are leftists.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:06:23 2015 No.7109187

>>7109180
Should we be allowed to discuss mathematical literature here because math is done on paper and in books? Should we be allowed to talk about science because scientific papers exist? Should we be allowed to talk about cars, music, food, anime, movies, video games, the outdoors, cosplay, hentai, sexy beautiful women, weapons, high resolution images, etc, because there are books about all of those thigns?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:10:58 2015 No.7109195 >>7109187 No, those already have their own dedicated boards. Stop being obtuse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:15:01 2015 No.7109204 >>7109187 For what it's worth, politics falls into the category of the humanities/social sciences, where literature also resides.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:46:41 2015 No.7109264 File: 51 KB, 637x640, muh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7109072 >capitalists aren't right wing >all democrats are far from being right wing Good God man, what have you been drinking? >>7107871 Led a sheltered life, Anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:32:46 2015 No.7109383 >>7107453 Those chumps rustled my fucking jimmies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:57:40 2015 No.7109471 >>7109195 if only politics had their own dedicated board

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 11:02:36 2015 No.7109490 >>7109471 >>7109204

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 11:53:00 2015 No.7109638 >>7109471 /lit/ should just be 4chan's board for relatively intelligent discussion, generally anchored by literature discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 11:59:56 2015 No.7109662 404 get

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 12:09:53 2015 No.7109696 >>7109383 >>7107453 they typify the xfactor/sun hazed infantilism of modern british adults.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 12:12:09 2015 No.7109702 >>7105128 Angela Eagle if he's prudent. John McDonnell is he wants to go full socialist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:49:38 2015 No.7110026 >>7105325 see u at the fuck parade m8

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:24:24 2015 No.7110126 >>7108164 Quite nice really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:28:35 2015 No.7110141 File: 74 KB, 640x656, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm just pleased there's a guarentees Tory government for the next 5 years

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:33:11 2015 No.7110156 >>7107892 >socialism is creating a society of seabed snails who do nothing but 'exist' Existence being whatever they want to make of it for themselves. Hard for you to imagine the full horror of that, I know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:09:44 2015 No.7110286 /pol is a sewer, a cancer.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:15:54 2015 No.7110316

>>7107892
Humans are creatures of practice. To truly be alive consists in creative interaction with one another and enterprises. Capitalism creates empty shells that are forced to live by routine and rote—that is mere "existing" in the bad sense, the sense you were using it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:25:20 2015 No.7110352 >>7110141 You mean the next 10 years. There was already one for the next 5 years, what with the election and all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:05:33 2015 No.7110493 >>7110286 /pol/ is the greatest board on 4chan

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:12:03 2015 No.7110525
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>Forgive me, for during a brief daring sojourn in very infected territory I, too, did not altogether escape this disease and began like everyone else to develop notions about matters that are none of my business: the first sign of the political infection.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:21:39 2015 No.7110563 >>7110352 Oh fuck, I didn't even think of that. Oh shit I'm rock-hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:26:27 2015 No.7110590 >>7110563 after the next recession and when you have 30% unemployment like the US, the voters will just vote in the opposition, especially since corbyn will probably be running on employment stimulating fiscal policy.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:26:48 2015 No.7110592
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>>7110563

Here you see the spaz (Latin: spaza) in its natural habitat. We've been advised against getting too close this particular creature given its propensity to fling shit at unassuming passersby.

Hm, quite fascinating.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:29:42 2015 No.7110602 File: 69 KB, 624x624, brit left.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Face it, he's the right man for the job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:31:17 2015 No.7110612 >>7110602 My god, Cooper looks like ET.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:39:02 2015 No.7110645 >>7110563 And here I was thinking conservatives could only achieve erection by killing off disabled people

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:42:31 2015 No.7110666 >>7110645 your mom gives me erections m8

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:44:16 2015 No.7110676 >>7110666 Oh look. Dave himself has arrived

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:47:14 2015 No.7110690 File: 216 KB, 874x414, SexyHitch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110676 Do you think he's using a dongle or has wi-fi at the Tuscan villa?

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:54:16 2015 No.7110733
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>>7110525
>witness the ever madder howling of the "conservative" dogs who are baring their fangs more and more obviously and roam through the alleys of western governments. They seem opposites of the peacefully industrious "liberals" and ideologists of redistribution, and even more so of the doltish philosophasters and brotherhood enthusiasts who call themselves socialists and want a “free society;” ..and even of conspiratorial anti-Semitic screamers... but in fact they are at one with the lot in their thorough and instinctive hostility to every other form of society except that of the autonomous herd (even to the point of repudiating the very concepts of “master” and “servant”—ni dieu ni maître runs a socialist formula). They are at one in their tough resistance to every special claim, every special right and privilege (which means in the last analysis, every right: for once all are equal nobody needs “rights” any more). They are at one in their mistrust of punitive justice (as if it were a violation of those who are weaker, a wrong against the necessary consequence of all previous society). But they are also at one in the religion of pity, in feeling with all who feel, live, and suffer (down to the animal, up to “God”—the excess of a “pity with God” belongs in a democratic age). They are at one, the lot of them, in the cry and the impatience of pity, in their deadly hatred of suffering generally, in their almost feminine inability to remain spectators, to let someone suffer. They are at one in their involuntary plunge into gloom and unmanly tenderness under whose spell the west seems threatened by a new Buddhism. They are at one in their faith in the morality of shared pity, as if that were morality in itself, being the height, the attained height of man, the sole hope of the future, the consolation of present man, the great absolution from all former guilt. They are at one, the lot of them, in their faith in the community as the savior, in short, in the herd, in “themselves”—

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:07:06 2015 No.7110788 >>7110592 You've picked a good way of sounding both pseudo-intellectual, and like a complete autistic fucktard. 10/10, congrats, here's your certificate to prove you're a failed abortion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:14:03 2015 No.7110825 File: 26 KB, 460x300, le.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7110788 >every childish insult in the book Too cliched and somewhat boring. Face it, your parents and school let you down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:28:50 2015 No.7110908 >>7110690 Oh but you're mistaken my good friend. There's a crisis in Northern Ireland right now so clearly it's time to be watching a few games of cricket in "everyone here hates everyone" land

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:56:07 2015 No.7111058 >>7108122 4chan has nothing other than dumb boards

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:19:04 2015 No.7111166 IDK what country you live in OP but in my country (the UK) he is the undertaker of the Labour Party

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:20:33 2015 No.7111170 Corbyn just killed the Labour Party.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:29:20 2015 No.7111206 File: 16 KB, 236x330, JandW1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111166 >>7111170

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:30:56 2015 No.7111218 File: 155 KB, 1368x768, Screenshot from 2015-09-13 23:30:36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111206 what are you implying

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:54:48 2015 No.7111343

>>7111206
9 members of the Shadow Cabinet resigned in protest. Nine of the most important members of the party, representing the official opposition, never mind those who openly opposed Corbyn before the vote, like Danczuk, and who're openly working to rebel.

And before even talking about his track record, from trying to pull apart the Labour party in the 80's by rebelling at every opportunity (voted against his party more often than Cameron has, and a known rabble rouser), or the opinions and company he keeps in Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA, he's the unelectable crisis that the Conservatives were waiting for.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:01:35 2015 No.7111380
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>>7111343

>implying this country is somehow wonderful right now
>implying Corbyn is the anti-Christ

So, you're one of the unthinking cretins we were discussing earlier in the thread? Parroting whatever the tabloid headlines say?

This country's doomed because of drones like you, not because there's a few people who support much-needed change in industry, education and foreign policy like Corbyn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:14:44 2015 No.7111452 >>7111170 up the ra irish lit > brit shit lit

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:17:40 2015 No.7111469

>>7111343
They're replacable. His breaks with the party seem to have been reasonable ones though such as voting against the iraq war, increased data surveillance, allowing ministers to intervene in inquests and for greater transparency in parliament. I'm not sure the deal about him being in bed with all thess organisations really rings too true either. It just seems to me like he's a man who doesn't revel too much in conflict in these situations and prefers to approach things diplomatically

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:30:18 2015 No.7111545

>>7111343
>Nine of the most important members of the party

I don't think a motley crew of spads and PR specialists are contenders for the label of "most important members of the party".

>representing the official opposition

None of them voted against the Welfare Bill. How the fuck can labour even be given the dignified laurel of Her Majesty's Opposition if it cannot oppose complete subversion of social security that the Labour party historically founded?

>And before even talking about his track record, from trying to pull apart the Labour party in the 80's by rebelling at every opportunity (voted against his party more often than Cameron has, and a known rabble rouser)

wew lad, it's as if you want constant neocon adventures in the ME, constant government surveillance, complete parliamentary opaqueness and corruption, and general social degradation - all of which Corbyn voted against.

>or the opinions and company he keeps in Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA

Yeah, and he's a raving anti-Semite as well. Nice MSM hatchet jobs you got in your inventory there. If Orwellian accusations that vague association with questionable individuals and organisations is tantamount to treason, then you might as well incarcerate the entire political apparatus.

Because of course, it's fine if Blair talks to Sinn Féin in peace accords after decades of marginalising them, and it's fine if we coddle up to dictators and jihad-peddling regimes such as Saudi Arabia. But hey ho, let us allow cognitive dissonance to get right in the way of facts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:40:23 2015 No.7111602 File: 4 KB, 158x174, KitchenFitter.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111545 This, this so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:46:42 2015 No.7111639 /lit/ - politics That said, ROTHERHAM naive leftist traitors so eager to stand up for the "other" over their own.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:48:40 2015 No.7111648 File: 64 KB, 580x326, savages.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7111639 I firmly consider the chavs "other", and so do you.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 20:28:21 2015 No.7111827 >>7111648 those are poles you idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 02:58:30 2015 No.7113173 >>7110825 >calls someone childish and puts up a picture of Peter Hitchens I mean, you do know how you come across, aye? I just hope that this is just how you talk to people online.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 03:13:05 2015 No.7113193

>>7111639
>>7111639
I know, the molestation of children covered up by corrupt self serving bureaucrats concerned only with the face of their ideology and the organisation was wrong.

Thats why I'm not a Catholic. or a Tory. or any long standing establishment really.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 04:02:17 2015 No.7113254

The general public in Britain really are a bunch of drooling morons, who probably deserve what they get.

It is pretty well established the majority of the public actually agree with all his policies, but they will believe the right wing tabloids anyway that he is a dangerous communist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 04:05:25 2015 No.7113263 >>7105125 No, it is first when he comes to power that he will become everything. Your mother, father, your sister, lover, your priest and god, your bank and wallet. Learn this phrase it will serve you well. Corbyn is love, corbyn is life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:06:48 2015 No.7113391 I'm with this guy up to the point where he starts fellating Putin. which is enough to completely erase all the other stuff.

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