Feminism

[Anonymous No.7104187]

What are your personal thoughts on it? Why the fuck is it ruffling our jimmies so much?

Can't post this on /pol/. Board is too retarded.

[Anonymous No.7104200]

>>7104187
>Pampered middle class western women ignore actual oppression and rape in the third world because they don't want to let go of beneficial gender roles but still want to be seen as the victim while lobbying for even more affirmative action and biased laws

Imagine a pig with red lipstick and rimmed glasses telling you in the employment office that you're privileged while she sits in a quota-guaranteed job her first year out of a humanities major.

[Anonymous No.7104246]

The actual concept behind Feminism -the equality of the sexes- isn't what ruffles the jimmies, at least for the normally adjusted.

The insane third-waver feminazis, or SJWs, are the jimmy rufflers. Sadly, they give feminism such a bad name that they are creating a huge rift between the ideology and actual people.

[Anonymous No.7104301]

>>7104187
It denies that there is a difference between the sexes.

[Anonymous No.7104304]

>>7104187

because they can't vet their claims and a lot of the time actual science points in the opposite direction

[Anonymous No.7104311]

>>7104187
Here's my take on it, OP.
“Sexual identity is used in the service of the status quo,” says Marx;
however, according to Werther, it is not so much sexual
identity that is used in the service of the status quo, but rather the
paradigm, and eventually the rubicon, of sexual identity. Therefore, Sontag
promotes the use of semioticist nationalism to modify and analyse narrativity.

Baudrillard uses the term ‘subcultural libertarianism’ to denote not
discourse, but neodiscourse. Thus, Derrida’s model of the constructive paradigm
of context holds that the purpose of the observer is significant form, given
that culture is distinct from consciousness.

The subject is interpolated into a subcapitalist paradigm of discourse that
includes sexuality as a paradox. It could be said that a number of narratives
concerning the constructive paradigm of context exist.

The subject is contextualised into a dialectic discourse that includes
narrativity as a totality. However, an abundance of theories concerning the
role of the artist as observer may be revealed.

[Anonymous No.7104318]

>>7104301
It denies that there is a MORAL difference.

[Anonymous No.7104319]

>>7104311

I can't believe people fall for this shit

[Anonymous No.7104323]

>>7104311
>“Sexual identity is used in the service of the status quo,” says Marx
Who are you quoting, because it sure as shit ain't Marx.

[Anonymous No.7104325]

>>7104187
>muh identity politics

IT'S CLASS-BASED ANALYSIS OR FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.7104329]

>>7104311
0/10

>>7104323
You're thick as pig shit

[Anonymous No.7104346]

>>7104187

It simply lacks rigor. I think the root sentiment, that women are worthy of dignity and respect, is spot on. But think about concepts like "objectification" , they are actually meaningless. Nothing in reality can actually count as an instance of objectification- paying more attention to a woman's sexuality than her x,z,y,.... has no necessary connection to "viewing women as only being sex objects" what so ever ( and this is something you can't even know that someone is doing unless you are them or they straight up utter those words). Feminists constantly make broad claims about what is going on in the male psyche, and yet there is no reason to consider their analysis correct because they have always just chosen the one interpretation out of many that fits their narrative.

They define things like catcalling, an unwanted kiss, or consensual sex after a few beers as "sexual assault"- treating women as if they were infants rather than adults with agency. What could be more demeaning to women than that ?

The wage gap has been proven to be due to the way that men and women behave in the workforce countless times and they still push the same tired old narrative.

I could go on and on and on. It's just a completely intellectually bankrupt movement. Feminism and feminists constitute the best argument against the equality of the sexes. It's ironic.

[Anonymous No.7104349]

I'm indifferent. The type of feminism people whose about doesn't exist outside of the internet and college campuses, but I can choose what sites to browse and what friends to make so it doesn't bother me.

[Anonymous No.7104372]

>>7104187

In its present incarnation, it's a pretense for dull middle class women to vent their quotidian frustrations and introduce a completely fabricated struggle to their comfortable, purposeless lives. I can't help but feel pity for the people wrapped up in all the tedious bickering, on both sides.

[Anonymous No.7104374]

>>7104187
Doesn't bother me. I've met very few feminists who were like the figure portrayed by people on 4chan- People here like to be outraged, so seek this out actively by going on tumblr, blogs, or facebook to find something to throw a fit over with the rest of the board as an instrument to solidarity.

[Anonymous No.7104375]

>>7104325
bourgeois race/gender-obsessed pretend leftists go crazy when they hear this

[Anonymous No.7104394]

>>7104374
i know one dyed in the hair woman who calls herself a militant feminist then turns around and says she's a massive fan of 1984, despite that the modern feminist doctrine and Orwell's ideologies are contradictory. In fact, Orwell has oft been accused of being a misogynist. I'm almost certain she says these things in a desperate attempt to be a special snowflake.

[Anonymous No.7104418]

stop fucking talking about it ffs

no one in the real world, besides actual feminists, talks about it as much as you faggots do. you're as asspained as the tumblr faggots you moan about

do yourself and look up the word ressentiment, then git gud

[Anonymous No.7104422]

>>7104374
>>7104246

Good Job Anons.

[Anonymous No.7104427]

Being a woman is literally life on tutorial mode. Feminism and women's liberation is the biggest lie of our generation.

Women are not equal physically, mentally or emotionally. Not only are they not equal, but they have not been an oppressed demographic in mine or your parents life time. Gender wage gap is a myth and has been since people began spouting that particular brand of propaganda and men still comprise the majority of work related deaths. There's no such thing as affirmative action for men, nobody wants to hire men because they need to reach government mandated quotas and men won't even get published for having a white name anymore.

If feminism is anything, it's a shit test writ large.

[Anonymous No.7104431]

kill kyle donahue

[Anonymous No.7104434]

>>7104427
Here come the /r9k/-folk

[Anonymous No.7104437]

Nietzsche wrote that women hate as they lose the ability to charm. In our world women never even learned to charm, the Feminists teach women to hate from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.7104445]

>>7104437
Who are these feminists, i.e. what positions do they hold? How do they teach young girls to hate?

[Anonymous No.7104448]

Feminism is another tool in the destruction of the family unit.

What was once the aim of the left, is now capitalism's prime enemy.

Stable families are dorky. You should experiment yourself and get some of the Dalai Jobbs inspirational wisdom.

[Anonymous No.7104452]

>>7104437
http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=341

moot doesn't let me post it

[Anonymous No.7104453]

>>7104427

I don't agree with that post, but that image is dead on.
I have yet to meet a woman who had that attire who wasn't a complete and total cunt.

[Anonymous No.7104454]

>>7104325
Trotsky's cock firmly in jaws, He leaves the political struggle to liberals
Learn to popular front.
Learn about the reproduction of labour power.
Learn about Locke and Natural Law as the ideological basis of capitalism.
Read Anuradha Ghandy
Read Origins of the Family, Private Property and the State and study the division of labour
Read State and Revolution and consider the reversal of the repressive apparatus.
Stop being a baby Marxist and trying to pander to the Gamergate kiddies, they are safe in the loving hands of self-proclaimed rapist Theodore Beale. If you aim for the violent birth of a whole new order but refuse to learn pronouns, you're just plain dum.

[Anonymous No.7104460]

>>7104448
It's the cultural logic of capitalism. Individualism, hedonism, having immediate self-gratification be the sole good, etc.

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>>7104187

[Anonymous No.7104466]

3rd wave feminism is fucking crazy. feminism was about being treated equally, not randomly policing the behavior of others.

[cul No.7104470]

>>7104187
basic ideas of feminism I actually agree with

they are equal

this actually makes me have less sympathy with women who are mediocre

I dont care if they starve in the gutter

[Anonymous No.7104472]

“I am persuaded that feminism is not at the root of political correctness. The actual source is much nastier and dares not speak its name, which is simply hatred for old people. The question of domination between men and women is relatively secondary—important but still secondary—compared to what I tried to capture in this novel, which is that we are now trapped in a world of kids. Old kids. The disappearance of patrimonial transmission means that an old guy today is just a useless ruin. The thing we value most of all is youth, which means that life automatically becomes depressing, because life consists, on the whole, of getting old.”
― Michel Houellebecq

[Anonymous No.7104475]

>>7104200
You mean the same humanities major shitheads on this website people are always telling me will never get me a job?

[Anonymous No.7104477]

>>7104246
>insane third-waver
you sound like you don't have the slightest shit about what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.7104478]

>>7104472

Why does Houellebecq ruin me everytime..

[Anonymous No.7104481]

>>7104187
>feminists
None of them actually read books, or if they ever did it was for the sake of scoring some easy dick.
Fuck 'em.

[Anonymous No.7104483]

“It [feminism] is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands.”
- G.K. 'Based Tier' Chesterton

[Anonymous No.7104484]

>>7104454
I don't know what gamergate is, but it sounds nerdy, idiot nerd lmao

[Anonymous No.7104502]

All women are inferior to all men in matters of the mind, of spirituality, of temperance, of rationality, of intelligence, of physicality, of love, of loyalty, of being ethical, of being true and authentic.

Women are worthless whores who are only good for their pussies

[Anonymous No.7104506]

muh anecdotes of women who were fine and as such disprove ur claims
muh ur prob a virgin ad hominem

White knights and logical fallacies should get married.

[Anonymous No.7104509]

>>7104502
Look it's /rk9/ and /pol/ all wrapped up in the same post.

[Anonymous No.7104512]

Personally I don't dislike feminism, but I think a lot of it is just Victorian female sexual repression but in a different direction. Refer to feminists teaming up with fundamentalist Christians in the 80s to fight porn. Horseshoe theory.

[Anonymous No.7104515]

>>7104509
>buttblasted feminist detected

Go out and make me a sandwich, you worthless whore, okay sweetheart?

Men are talking here, so know your place

[Anonymous No.7104523]

>>7104515
>so tough that I have become moist

[Anonymous No.7104525]

>>7104515
Damn...

[Anonymous No.7104533]

>>7104515
>>7104509
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[Anonymous No.7104577]

>>7104502
>Women are worthless whores who are only good for their pussies
faggot

[Anonymous No.7104602]

>>7104577
fuck you moralfag liberal feminist shit

you've been feminized by cultural marxism. real men don't concern themselves with the feelings of those beneath them

[Anonymous No.7104617]

>>7104602

[Anonymous No.7104622]

>>7104515

[Anonymous No.7104626]

Read some history.

[Anonymous No.7104665]

>>7104515
I don't care if you are a guy or a girl, but you're a disgusting person if you ever talk like that to anybody.

[Anonymous No.7104666]

>>7104626
Then you'll find that women have contributed fuck all except spreading their legs

[Anonymous No.7104667]

Since men and women are not physically equal, there is no basis on which to claim that they are equal in another way.

[Anonymous No.7104679]

>>7104667
Production. pow.

[Anonymous No.7104684]

>>7104667
This. Moral equality is a joke. But I think that there is equality between men, in the sense that we are sharing this world on a higher spiritual, emotional, and existential plane than a woman; i.e. a woman is not inscribed ontologically into the world as well as a man is; there's something lacking in women.

[Anonymous No.7104704]

>>7104679
If I understand correctly, your claim is that men and women are equal in their capacity to produce things (in a factory, on a farm, in a workshop etc.)

If this is the case, can you prove it? We already know that men and women are not physically equal, so, women being physically weaker, it doesn't seem reasonable to claim that they could harvest the same amount of grain, chop down the same number of trees etc.

If you want to say that women and men are equal in production now that modern technology has replaced much of the manual work involved in producing most commodities, consider the manual work that is required to construct and maintain these technologies in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7104708]

>>7104684
>Equality between men

I disagree for the same reason--since men are not physically equal, there is no basis on which to claim that they are equal in another way.

[Anonymous No.7104739]

>>7104708
Men are inherently good, so in that sense they are equal.

Women are not equal to man because women are inherently evil and sinful. They are only equal to each other (women that is) in being of a lesser kind than men and depraved

[Anonymous No.7104747]

>>7104739
>Men are inherently good

Can you prove this?

[Anonymous No.7104760]

>>7104747
It's what the redpill says. We created Western civilization

[Anonymous No.7104770]

>>7104515
lol

[Anonymous No.7104774]

>>7104760
>Western civilization is morally good
>Contribution to the development of Western civilization reflects an inherent individual moral goodness
>Moral good exists at all

[Anonymous No.7104777]

>>7104774
>cultural marxist shill detected

fuck off back to tumblr

[Anonymous No.7104779]

>>7104704
Combines don't have gender.

The first place is the historical contingency of dead labour.

Humans are dimorphic physically in certain cases. You cannot guarantee corresponding identity or behavior from these. The agricultural division of labour made use of perceivable dimorphism to assign roles.

[Anonymous No.7104782]

>>7104187
Dirty word. Decentralized movements are always defined by their extremists. I don't like to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.7104788]

>>7104325
what if I don't support all the different shades of anarchists because I think that their vision of a "community" oriented stateless society will plunge the world back into the fucking middle ages and thus incinerate the material conditions of the world?

[Anonymous No.7104794]

>>7104464
nice saved

[Anonymous No.7104795]

>>7104187
>males do all the work inventing something
>create male-centric culture around it
>females whine and complain about sexism
>in reality, they just weren't there and didn't do anything
>worse still, they CAN'T do anything without males diluting their bullshit
>a strictly female organization immediately implodes and accomplishes nothing
And people wonder why males resent females?
They're dead weight.

COMPLAINING IS NOT CONTRIBUTING

[Anonymous No.7104799]

>>7104777
>Can you provide some evidence for your claims?
>"Fuck off back to Tumblr"

[Anonymous No.7104819]

>>7104515
I tip my hat to you, good sir!

[Anonymous No.7104846]

>>7104795
>in reality they just werent there and didnt do anything

Are people truly this stupid? Really?

[Anonymous No.7104851]

>>7104846
>"b-but muh oppreshun!"

Do you liberal shits never get tired of this meme?

[Anonymous No.7104859]

>>7104477
Care to explain how?

[Anonymous No.7104861]

>>7104851
>libruls
>memes

you can at least try to pretend you are being earnest

[Anonymous No.7104869]

>>7104859
They are destroying Western civilization and morality by being sex-positive, and even engaging in sexual acts with blacks.
It makes a mockery of what our ancestors fought for

[Anonymous No.7104875]

This image is the most comprehensive and ponderate guide on feminism and its shades I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.7104876]

>>7104869
I just got Poe'd

[Anonymous No.7104880]

>>7104875
>"""human" """nature"""""
>not a social construct

[Anonymous No.7104887]

>>7104880
>Steven_Pinker_The_Blank_Slate_The_Modern_Denial_of_Human_Nature.pdf

[Anonymous No.7104890]

>>7104887
>The Blank Slate
>not the shittiest pop-sci book ever written

[Anonymous No.7104902]

I would literally vote for a party in favor of killing all men tbh

[Anonymous No.7104909]

Treatment of men and women are unequal. They both have unwarranted privileges and disprivileges, and something should be done about it. But I'm a pretty worthless person and don't /actively/ do anything to advance the cause, so I can't call myself a feminist. I'm supportive of it though. That is, the idea of gender equality and movement towards it; not whatever voice claims to be the authority on it and skews the message.

[Anonymous No.7104911]

>>7104902
FUCK YOU

YOU ARE INFERIOR TO ALL MEN, YOU WORTHLESS WHORE

HAVE YOU CREATED WESTERN CIVILIZATION? NO, IT WAS MEN. MEN!

YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPREAD YOUR LEGS, AND YOU HAVE LIFE ON EASY MODE. YOU ARE WORTHLESS AND MEN DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU UNLESS YOU PROMISE THEM SEX, YOU CHEAP SLUT

FEMINISM IS DESTROYING THE WEST BECAUSE OF YOUR OUTLANDISH DEMANDS AND WISH TO ENSLAVE AND KILL ALL MEN

MEN ARE WHAT MAKES THIS WORLD WORTH LIVING. WE INVENT. WE CREATE. WE LOVE.

WOMEN ARE INCAPABLE OF ALL SUCH THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE INTELLECTUALLY INFERIOR AND ARE DRIVEN BY YOUR EMOTIONS THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL.

YOU ARE SLAVES TO YOUR EMOTIONS AND DON'T HAVE THE REFLECTIVE MENTAL CALM AND FORTITUDE THAT MEN HAVE.

YOU HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING FOR HUMANITY, AND SINCE EQUAL RIGHTS AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TOWARDS YOU, YOU STILL HAVEN'T CREATED JACK SHIT.

SO FUCK YOU AND YOUR DYKE FRIENDS

[Anonymous No.7104913]

>>7104911
I am a msn myself fam

[Anonymous No.7104916]

>>7104913
*MAN

[Anonymous No.7104918]

>>7104913
You're probably a Jew paid by Israel to say such things when men are having a decent and truth-yielding discussion on the worthlessness of women

[Anonymous No.7104921]

>>7104913
asl

[Anonymous No.7104937]

>>7104918
no