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7092239 No.7092239 [Reply] [Original]

How come /lit/ never discusses plays? It's all novels and short stories.

Is it an elitism thing, are plays viewed as somehow beneath novels?

>> No.7092247

Well, the greatest literary artist of all time worked primarily in plays...

>> No.7092249

>>7092247
And /lit/ never talks about him either.

>> No.7092253

>>7092239
You have to go out to see plays to get the proper experience. Reading's easier. When was the last time you went to see a play?

>> No.7092257

>>7092249
We talk about him.

>> No.7092266

>>7092247
No he didn't

>> No.7092290
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>>7092253
Yes, intuition would tell you you need to see the play to get the "proper experience," but this is a falsehood. In fact plays are best experienced on the page, the place where they were first created. This was always true, but the development of film has helped to ensure that plays are studied and kept alive as texts, not performances.

Raised on movies, I can't enjoy a play. I've seen great productions at great theaters and I was miserable. Who can tolerate being stuck watching an entire drama from the same angle. Imagine a movie that never cuts in from its establishing long shot. You'd say move the fucking camera. Film revealed the fundamental flaw in the idea of a play as a live performance. Were film available in his time, Shakespeare would have staged exactly zero plays. He would have written and possibly directed movies.

>> No.7092304

>>7092290
This. Theater is a redundant medium.

>> No.7092348

Plays belong to theater more than they belong to literature. Movies aren't literature just cause the screenplay is a piece of writing.

>> No.7092355

>>7092290
I try not to be mean to anonymous people but I really hope you kill yourself

>> No.7092364

subvocalized shakespeare > spoken shakespeare > non-subvocalized shakespeare


I also cant shake the fact while watching plays that the actors are all uppity hipster leftists IRL

>> No.7092382

Surely even plebs like you can distinguish between prose meant to stand on its own and dialog meant to be said aloud and interpreted though a director and actor with blocking etc.

>> No.7092425

>>7092239
Everyone's always creaming their shorts over streetcar named desire but I like night of the iguana the best.

>> No.7092441

>>7092355
that wouldn't solve your problem good budddy

only you can keep your denial alive

>> No.7092442

>>7092239
>all novels and short stories
Have you seen the philosophy vomit that is the so called /lit/ board? But yes, as someone who has their degree in theatre, plays don't get talked about enough

>> No.7092444

>>7092239
>"plays"
Drama began and ended with the Three Tragedians. There is nothing more to discuss outside of these titans.

>> No.7092449

>>7092257
Molière? Because that's the greatest dramaturge and literary artist of all time. Not Shakespeare.


>in my opinion

>> No.7092452
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>>7092444
>implying that there were only three playwrights in ancient greece

>> No.7092457

>>7092449
Much respect for Moliere, finished acting in a play as his lungs were filling with blood.

>> No.7092461

>>7092239
Just bought his complete short stories

>> No.7092466

>>7092442
>degree in theatre
>whines about philosophy vomit
>implies philosophy isn't literature
>wants some bucket space for his theatre vomit
>reads thread
>realizes he might as well have a degree in landline telephone service
>drowns himself in vomit
>brilliant performance
>no cameras allowed
>might as well have never lived

>> No.7092471

>>7092452
Where did I imply that? Are you so ignorant to believe that when I refer to Aeschylus, Socrates and Euripides by the same collective name that was applied to them even at the time, that I'm including all Greek dramatists?

>> No.7092499

>>7092239
Not sure how much of /lit/ goes and sees plays to be honest, it's not the cheapest pursuit and the production is unavoidably localised so the chances of finding somebody who you can talk about it to are lowered even further.

I recently tried to talk about A Month in the Country and Doctor Faustus on here and no replies sadly but Shakespeare threads occasionally get some traction

>> No.7092506

>>7092471
>Socrates
Um, they were written by PLato actually, and even though they're mainly dialogue, that doesn't mean they are plays

>> No.7092509

Guys you can just watch performances on YouTube lol.

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7093005

Is this guy worth reading? Or is it better to see the play in person?

>> No.7093020

>>7092506
He meant Sophocles

>> No.7093031

>>7092364
that spoiler sounds autistic tbh

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>>7092290
You like what you like, but when you try to justify it like this you just come across as a retard.