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7076921 No.7076921 [Reply] [Original]

Is his career kill?

>> No.7076931

Why would it be?

>> No.7076947

>>7076931
>the fact that a majority of his fans were alienated by the rape accusations made against him
>the fact that the alt-lit meme has run its course
>the fact that he's incapable of writing anything other than alt-lit
>the fact that his latest "book" is shit
>the fact that many people who've met him claim that he's an insufferable cunt
Should I go on?

>> No.7076952

He's corny in my opinion.

The audience that seems to enjoy his work takes significantly longer to notice how shit something is. They just enjoy it for the novelty.

>> No.7076994

>>7076947
Yes.

>> No.7076997

Even by the standards of a chantard your output on this board is utter garbage. Fuck off to reddit or to twitter.

>> No.7077009

i made a poem:

>tao lin
>thread hidden

>> No.7077010
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>>7076997
>your output
You've read one of my posts you fucking faggot.

>> No.7077014
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>>7076997
lel

>> No.7077056

>>7077014
Suck my dick
Asshole, you pathetic and utterly
Mediocre
Excuse
For
A
Gay

>> No.7077072

>>7077056
I don't mind. As I submitted the post I felt like you'd think I was the same guy.

>> No.7077167

>>7076947
she was legal in PA
tao lin did nothing wrong
aside from the not being white part

>> No.7077199

im still not sure if he is serious or being ironic.

eitherway it's all drivel.

i enjoyed Eeeee Eee Eeee though

>> No.7077297
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7077297

I thought Taipei was alright. My favorite is Shoplifting. Every other book he has written is either really mediocre or awful. As far as his career, I think he's slowly getting more exposure by the small blogs that talk about him still.

>> No.7077324

>>7077297
>tfw no stranger qt3.14 to read my awful novel to

>> No.7077336

>>7076947
Tao Lin sucks cock, but it sucks he got accused of rape by some fucking simpleton attention whore trans clown. His biggest audience is SJWs so an allegation like that will really fuck his shit up.

>> No.7077367

what career?

>> No.7077458

>>7076947

-fans of his are generally smart enough to know that the accusations are BS
-his work is closer to the writers of the late 60's and 70's than whatever alt-lit is/was
-he writes semi-auto fiction which has been around for a century and shows no signs of dying, alt-lit seems to be poetry, not fiction
-his latest book is pretty dumb, yeah, but anyone reading him seriously is only in it for the fiction
-stranger's opinion of him personally has no effect on my enjoyment of his novels

>> No.7077532

>>7077458
>butt-hurt, the post

>> No.7077539

>>7076921
Who?

>> No.7077658

>>7077056
Who r u

>> No.7077665

>>7077539
I think that's Murakami.

>> No.7077678

Anyone got any rare Taos?

>> No.7077829

>>7077532

I'm pretty butthurt dude. We're on a fucking literature board and we can't even support a guy who is successfully publishing novels that don't pander or use white-wash prose? It's pretty disgraceful because it makes the board look like a bunch of neckbeards that only read Tolstoy and Joyce.

>> No.7077837

>>7077829
Not him. I agree with you.

>> No.7077840

>>7077539
I knew you were dumb--you were just telling a poster to be like Clinton yesterday--but is reverse image search that difficult for you?

>> No.7077845

>>7077829
But anon-kun, he writes poorly, and he writes for (and is connected with) a demographic essentially obsessed with the cycle of entertainment and pleasure (usually from drugs). It's like you learned nothing from Infinite Jest

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>>7077665
Ah. Hiropon. Lonesome Cowboy, yes.

I always preferred Chiho Aoshima and Aya Takano

>> No.7077865

>>7077458
>-fans of his are generally smart enough
Stopped reading there.

>> No.7077881

>>7077845

>poorly

Opinion discarded. His journalistic prose is fine.

>writes for

Assumption and almost certainly incorrect. I'm not sure because I can never know an artist's true intentions (and for that reason don't really think about them.)

>> No.7078039

>>7077829
>white-wash prose
What even is this, you fucking white-guilt hipster cuck? There's no such thing as "white prose." Goddamn this post legiimately made me angry. Fuck you and fuck your opinions. I bet you browse Buzzfeed.

>> No.7078047

>>7076921
Tai Pei is still one of the most painful reads I've ever conducted

to be such an emotionless, interestless, empty sack of flesh

>> No.7078057
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7078057

>>7077850
>Aya Takano
Mah nigga.

>> No.7078097

>>7076921
Tao pls go

>> No.7078116

>Genuinely enjoy Tao and his 'genre'
>Honestly hope he never writes again
He makes me feel too comfortable in my drug abuse and depression.

>> No.7078151

>>7077056
>samefag

>> No.7078213

>>7077539
lol newfag detected

>> No.7078372

>>7076921
he had one?

>> No.7078422

>>7078039
Anon, I don't think white wash means what you think it does.

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>>7078039
Embarrassing anon, be glad you're anonymous.

>> No.7078448

>>7078422
Most people are stupid.

>> No.7078832

why does this person come to /lit/ and talks all by himself so often?
/soc/ is ok if he feels alone

>> No.7079120

>>7077840
>>7078213
Newfig posting. *Tsk tsk*

>>7078057
:D

>> No.7079377

>>7078116

what's his 'genre?' literary fiction?

>> No.7079698

Has anyone read Tao Lin's poetry or short stories? Getting CBT and Bed soon. I really like his poem "a stoic philosophy based on the scientific fact that our thoughts cause our feelings and behaviors."

>> No.7079883

>>7078422
>>7078448
>>7078443
http://stopwhitewashing.tumblr.com/
I guess that's not what he meant, but you can't blame me at the thought of people applying move-definition whitewashing to prose, as if that would make any sense at all. And fuck you, I'm not stupid, I just misunderstood fam

>> No.7079965

>>7079698

can't speak for the poetry, but Bed is great. He moved away from metaphor in his later books because Bed didn't sell well but he brought back Bed's style with Taipei. I hope he sticks to that style, I think those are his two best works.

>> No.7079999

How do you kill that which has no life? Calling what Tao Lin does a career would be like calling cum rags art just cuz they're on display.

>> No.7080003

>>7079698
I liked all of CBT except for the hamster saga at the end. I've never read Bed. You should check out you are a little bit happier than i am. Lin wrote it after Bed but it came out earlier.

>> No.7080141

No, not at all.
He handled the rape allegations thing excellently. It tainred his image only marginally tbh.
He is obviously one of the most interesting and relevant contemporary american author

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7080153

>2015
>reading the works of a slant eyed tranny fucking PoMo hack author

>> No.7080154

I'm pretty amazed at how a few rape allegations pretty much destroyed the alt-lit scene. Sure it was pretty fragile to begin with but you'd think they'd at least try to weather the storm. I didn't want to say it but damn, women ruin everything.

>> No.7080168

>>7080153
>unique perspectives and minds are bad
Are you a moron or something

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7080190

>2015
>reading deal white men

>> No.7080196

>>7080154
How is it dead. Apart from popserial dead + that guy and that other guy and their involvements nothing really changed?

>> No.7080204

>>7077458
Go to bed Tao

>> No.7080207

>>7080154
There was nothing to ruin

>> No.7080503

idk i'll still buy tao's next book and i think he's cool but i'm actually tao so take that how you will

>> No.7080613

>>7079883
>>7078448
>>7078422
So what does white wash prose mean?

>> No.7080662

this man... in my country he is everything

>> No.7081056

>>7080613

Franzen
John Green
95% of science fiction/fantasy

>> No.7081069

Tai Pei is a great book. Looking forward to his next novel.

>> No.7081099

>>7080662
mexico?

>> No.7081178

Meme Pei tbh

>> No.7081188

what the fuck is alt lit

>> No.7081196

>>7081188

I'm not sure but it's weird that people lump Lin's fiction with it. Especially since it's called 'alternative' but his books are really straightforward.

>> No.7081554

>>7080154
>>7080196
I dislike the fact that within alt lit it's considered progressive to silence the kind of typical pro male views (along with the practice of giving priority to every author but straight white men on any subject) and they cite the censorship of women forgetting that censorship of the truly provocative has always existed in popular culture
I found alt lit thinking that this would be a community where I could have a voice and thrive, but it's effectively no boys allowed

This is reads like it's written from a psychotic, from a local publishing house. I actually emailed the girl who runs it a story of when I groped a random girl on a crowded bart ride and attached a screenshot of the texts the girl sent me afterward. No reply sadly but I'm probably going to see her next weekend


http://beaboutitpress.tumblr.com/post/99543672524/empathlit-professional-context-for-empath-lit


Still, when it comes down to it a compelling narrative is a compelling narrative. I have a feeling people are going to be more accepting if they know me and if it came down to it I could write about other things until I find a place where I didn't need to censor myself

>> No.7081637

its weird seeing tao's ex-gf ellen who is a guy
constantly report /lit/ and /mu/ memes on twitter all day

anyway ya i think he is done for tbh,

Just writes to pay bills and drugs

>> No.7081785

>>7077829
The Western Canon is most of the only good literature, kill yourself.
>>7081056
>95%
100℅

>> No.7081788

>>7081785
full unironic pleb

>> No.7081795

>>7081637

Link?

>> No.7082338

>>7081795
https://twitter.com/alonewiththeTV
faggot shitposts on /mu/ all day

http://jezebel.com/alt-lit-icon-tao-lin-accused-of-horrific-rape-and-abuse-1641641060
also proof thats the account

>> No.7082387

>>7077845
...namely, that if you like infinite hest you are a fucking joke of a human being.

>> No.7082764

>>7081785
>>7081056
>>7080613
So it means exactly what that guy assumed?

>> No.7082796
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>>7080196

What the fuck are you talking about, Tao?

HTML Giant and a shit ton of other shitty blogs that the lifeblood shut down almost laterally in the wake of the rape allegations. I can't recall if any of them specified what they were shutting down for but it was pretty obvious since it all came crashing down within a month of the allegations.

I don't know what the NY alt-lit "scene" is like anymore, since I wouldn't associate myself with those hack frauds for all the publishing deals in the world, but I'm fairly confident after all those "alt-lit is dead" articles, nobody calls their stuff alt-lit anymore, even if it's identical to the alt-lit they produced before.

>> No.7083326

>>7081788
Only faggot plebs dismiss the Canon.

>> No.7084311

>>7083326
faggot pleb detected

>> No.7084325

>>7076921
Who is that?
>hope that answers your question

>> No.7084384

>>7079883
>going into a rage because you're too ignorant to bother to know what you're talking about

That's pretty stupid fam tbh

>> No.7084397

>>7084384
Fuck you you stupid faggot go choke on a dick you fucking cunt

>> No.7086350

>>7084311
Faggot pleb detected

>> No.7086554

>>7084325
Thomas Pynchon