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7075005 No.7075005 [Reply] [Original]

>that moment when you realize your entire existence is nothing but an illusion created by your subconscious and you don't exist

>> No.7075009

>>7075005

But you do exist.

>> No.7075012

As a phenomenologist this hasn't happened.

>> No.7075016
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7075016

>that moment when you realize its irrelevant whether there is anything separate from your subconsciousness because all that is reality is manifested in it anyway.

>> No.7075019

I think therefore I am is a lie.
"I" isn't even defined and just assumed to exist a priori by the mere action of using it as the first word in the sentence. It's all circular logic.

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>>7075009
Peepee is having a moment. Just report and move on.

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>>7075016

I refute it thus...

>> No.7075028

>>7075026
how?

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>>7075005
>tfw your entire existence is the culmination of power inscribed by institutions onto your body

>> No.7075032

>>7075028

>being this unaware of the arguments against his position

>> No.7075033
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>>7075028
Based Hume

>> No.7075042

>>7075005
It makes no difference for me if I exist or not because I perceive that I do exist

>> No.7075051

>>7075042
see
>>7075019


you just defined the word "I" circularly again

>> No.7075056

>>7075005

Two people are in a bar, having a heady discussion about philosophy. One says “You can’t trust your senses, you know. They aren’t the world itself, they are just sensory interpretations occuring in your brain. They are like an incomplete map. Your senses only give you a partial picture of the universe and should be mistrusted.”

The other guy says “That reminds me of how matter is mostly just empty space. At the atomic level, stuff isn’t solid, it’s just tiny little electrons repelling other electrons, and we experience that as being ‘solid’. But it’s not solid. It’s barely even there! Matter is basically an illusion.”

At this point, a third fellow, who has been listening to all of this, stands up and picks up his stool. He feels its weight, and the smooth texture of its wood. Then he swings it in a wide arc, clocking both of them in the head.

>> No.7075061

>>7075051
What's your issue with adopting 'I' as a perceived reality

>> No.7075062

>>7075056
>heady discussion

awkward wording

>> No.7075073

>>7075032
not that guy but honestly unaware and interested. what are you talking about?

>> No.7075094

>>7075073

>After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the non-existence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it, 'I refute it thus.'

Boswell's Life of Samuel Johnson.

>> No.7075103

>>7075062
It's a good adjective in the context of drinking alchohol too.

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>>7075005
OP you are doing it wrong.

>> No.7075256

>>7075094
Oh, you are conflating subjective idealism with idealism.

Sorry, I had assumed you were not retarded.

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>> No.7075972

>>7075256

>after arduous Wiki-ing still manages to look stupid

>> No.7075976

>>7075238
The second image full on describes my view on reality but I wouldn't call myself a nihilist.

Nihilism is built on skepticism, which is a negative principle. So the first image is a lot more accurate.

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>>7075005
>subconscious

learn 2 philosophy of mind. Its unconscious you mongo