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This is a public notice that True Detective Season 1 is a retelling of the Theseus story.

>That Dionysus/Minotaur in the labyrinth in the end
>That eternal return
>Theseus who slays the minotaur in the labyrinth
>minotaur who kills women in crete from athens
>saturnalia, masks, human sacrifice, tearing into pieces reinacting fragmentation and reconstitution of dionysus

>> No.7074119

lol it sucks Theseus dusint have a funny mustache man

>> No.7074138

>>7074119
science is out on that

>> No.7074184
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7074184

>when you realise Tolkien's Ring is just a bastardised version of the Ring of Gyges

>> No.7074211

>>7074184
>Ring of Gyges
you're thinking of the old man and the sea.

>> No.7074231

>>7074114
interestedatanta

>> No.7074270

>>7074114
That's not Dionysus, but Cernunnos, a celtic deity

>> No.7074278

>>7074270
literally same shit

>> No.7074293
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7074293

>he sent his thesis to battle a monitor

>> No.7074349

santa ria and voodoo doesn't come from the greeks though

>> No.7074434

>>7074184
No, its the Ring from the tale of Siegfried who killed the dragon you goddamned pleb

>> No.7074640

>>7074278
Only sort of.

I mean, they've both got mystery cult status, they both have connotations of renewal and resurrection: Dionysius being likely derived from the god of the Getae, Zalmoxis, who resurrected himself.

Cernunnos holds the torc as a symbol of kingship, and the snake and antlers represet the yearly cycle of death and renewal.

There's not much evidence linking Cernunnos to Dionysian type revelries and frenzied ceremonies.

You're conflating two similar divinities that may be linked by a common indo-european ancestor, but which have since diversified, if they were ever from the same root at all.

>> No.7074800

>>7074184

all rings "of power" - crowns, torcs, armlets every bit as much as finger-rings - are the same ring. the wearing of rings is in pre-modern times very significant. They represent the vulva (of the Earth -- hence the use of precious metal). When the ring is worn, the wearer penetrates this circle, symbolizing his domination over the woman that is nature. However, the very mystical significance of the ring gave it preciousness and this preciousness began to be taken for its own sake. While the ring Andvaranaut's only power is to make gold and damn those who wear it, the earlier ring of Gyges has not yet relegated to the realm of implications the reason WHY the ring of power curses the bearer: because the power it represents over the earth and over others ultimately escapes one's own control and makes one a slave to one's base desires. This theme is what we find taken up in Tolkien.

>Ohlmarks: The Ring is in a certain way 'der Nibelungen Ring'....
>Tolkien: Both rings were round, and there the resemblance ceases.

>> No.7074809

>>7074800
>all rings "of power" - crowns, torcs, armlets every bit as much as finger-rings - are the same ring
uh, no.

>> No.7074823

>>7074640
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Goddess

THEYRE ALL LINKED MAN

>> No.7074825

>>7074809

They are, and the ring that they are is the genitals of the planet.

>> No.7074839

>>7074825

They might all be the same to you, but for most people, different rings have different significances, as do different crowns, torcs and armlets. What you're saying is just silly.