/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7066476]

What are some other books that successfully predicted the future?

[Anonymous No.7066494]

>Jean Raspail
he predicted PocПил with his name?

[Anonymous No.7066566]

The Machine Stops by E.M. Forster

[Anonymous No.7066583]

The Late Great Planet Earth.
2001: A Space Odyssey.

[Anonymous No.7066992]

Name a book that predicted future better than MGS 2 (a Hideo Kojima game).

[Anonymous No.7067073]

>>7066992
>hurr durr metal gayr is deep
fuck off kid

[Anonymous No.7067087]

[Anonymous No.7067089]

>>7067073
afraid of a larger forum, are you?

[Anonymous No.7067127]

>>7066476
I was surprised that see Raspail's book is actually well-known internationally, more so than Houellebecq for example.

In France, you literally never hear about Raspail, out of far-right circles.

[Anonymous No.7067135]

>>7066992

game from 2001 can hardly be considered predicting the future when it was basically just describing the present

[Anonymous No.7067136]

>>7066476
Epic racism broo! Just saw some hella EPIC anti-asylum thread on /pol/.

You really should come over to us at
>>>/pol/
We're totally right all the time man and we can also predict the GENOCIDE of white people by the NWO.

[Anonymous No.7067142]

>inb4 1984
>inb4 Fahrenheit 451
>inb4 Brave New World

[Anonymous No.7067156]

>>7066566

This book gets so little mention because 1984 stole its thunder, people should be praising that The Machine Stops a lot more because it's more accurate with people becoming too reliant on machines.

[Anonymous No.7067158]

>>7067135
that's not true at all, tumblr and co didn't exist back then, usenet was still a fresh corpse.

same thing with mgs 4 and proxy wars.

[Anonymous No.7067161]

>>7067136
OP is not pro or anti, he's just stating that Raspail foresaw exactly what is happening to Europe now.

>>7067127
surprised to see that*

[Anonymous No.7067172]

>>7067156
>first published in 1909
>1984 stole it's thunder

[Anonymous No.7067175]

>>7067136
it's a demographic fact that Europe will cease to exist if current trends keep up
it's not racist to point that out

[Anonymous No.7067178]

>>7067175
It is because it's not a fact nor does Europe have anything to do with a certain race. Which OPs book implies.

[Anonymous No.7067179]

>>7067136
Why are you so called "tolerant" types so intolerant of contrary opinions?

Are you unable to accept that people can have differing opinions about a subject?

[Anonymous No.7067181]

>>7067178
>It is because it's not a fact
yes it is
>nor does Europe have anything to do with a certain race
yes it does

[Anonymous No.7067183]

>>7067178
>nor does Europe have anything to do with a certain race.
oh boy...

[Anonymous No.7067184]

>>7066992
This is pretty interesting. I've always kind of wanted to play msg2 but the time commitment seems like too much (I don't really game much). Do you need to play the first one to understand what's going on?

[Anonymous No.7067188]

>>7067183
>>7067181
>>7067179
´Jesus christ neo-4chan and especially neo-/lit/ is just so full of racists. Fuck off back to /pol/ please, this here is a marxist stronghold.

[Anonymous No.7067190]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tufEmLjgPlU

[Anonymous No.7067192]

>>7067188
So do you approve the colonisation of Africa by the white race?

Because Africa doesn't have anything to do with the black race, right?

If you disagree, fuck off back to black supremacist websites pls

[Anonymous No.7067195]

>>7067188
6/10 b8, I started typing out an answer

[Anonymous No.7067202]

>>7067181
>>7067183
>>7067179
>>7067175
>>7066476
>>7067161
I remember when /lit/ was intellectual and discussed books that had either literary, philosophical, or historical merit. Then you /pol/ muh white pride fucks spilled over into other boards and fucked it up. Please do what you want the immigrants to do and go back to the shithole from whence you came.

Pic related

[Anonymous No.7067203]

>>7067188
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.7067207]

>>7067135
disagree.

[Anonymous No.7067209]

>>7067136
I'm guessing you're American. Me too. I currently live in Europe and having basically open borders with multiple 3rd world countries is a stupid, stupid idea. Mexico doesn't have shit on how horrible the people and conditions of these places are, and they are flooding this entire continent.

I don't like Trump either and I think his stance on American immigration issues are absolutely retarded. I am currently looking at the polar opposite over here though and this is absolutely retarded, too.

[Anonymous No.7067211]

>>7067202
>I remember when /lit/ was intellectual and discussed books that had either literary, philosophical, or historical merit.
I remember 4chan before butthurt tumblrites and redditors migrated here and started getting offended at the word "nigger".

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7067213]

>>7067192
Christ, the fact that you think that you're either a white supremacist or a black supremacist shows how warped your world view is.

[Anonymous No.7067216]

>>7067192
No I don't, because Europeans sought to use the countries natural resources and cheap labour to get richer. Now that Europe is richer we have the nerve to complain about poorer places. It's ridiculous.

These people just want to come here and improve their lives. They're not here to steal our natural resources or rape our women. They're here to get a better life. And that's every humans right to seek. Just like several people from my family probably moved to USA to seek a better life in the early 20th century.

[Anonymous No.7067218]

>>7067211
This board always had less knee-jerk racism than /pol/. Please go back there.

[Anonymous No.7067223]

>>7067209
No, I am a Swede but I don't see how that matters. And they're not flooding this continent. The majority of the asylum seekers of the world are left in surrounding countries and only a small fraction of the people wanting to get to Europe actually get here. Most stay in for example Turkey.

[Anonymous No.7067228]

>>7067216
>No I don't, because Europeans sought to use the countries natural resources and cheap labour to get richer.
Not settler colonies such as Rhodesia and South Africa.

> They're not here to steal our natural resources or rape our women.
They commit most of the rape in european countries. Iirc 100% of all rape in Norway is committed by immigrants.

>These people just want to come here and improve their lives.
Funny they can't "improve their lives" in their native countries.

>>7067218
>This board always had less knee-jerk racism than /pol/.
The problem isn't knee-jerk racism, it's knee-jerk anti-racism, stupid niggers such as yourselves screaming "OMG THATS RACISST!"

[Anonymous No.7067229]

>>7067202
>saying that Europe is the homeland of the white race is /pol/-tier white supremacism

[Anonymous No.7067235]

>>7067216
What makes the life better is the consumption of resources in most cases.

[Anonymous No.7067237]

>>7067228
>funny they can't improve their lives in their native country
Oh, you mean the one being destroyed by a terrorist group that the US-British invasion of Iraq created? Yeah I wonder why they can't improve their lives in that hellhole.

[Anonymous No.7067239]

>>7067216
>Europeans sought to use the countries natural resources and cheap labour to get richer

Just like Africans want to use our countries' cultural resources and expensive labour to get richer, right?

Also implying 100% of European people living in Africa back then wanted to "get richer". You had priests, teachers, builders, children, women, travellers, civil servants, etc.

[Anonymous No.7067241]

>>7067228
>Funny they can't "improve their lives" in their native countries.
wat

[Anonymous No.7067243]

>>7067184
yes, it's essential.

other /lit/ approved games:

pathologic
deadly premonition
planescape torment
stalker shadow of chernobyl
dragon's dogma
muramasa the demon blade
space funeral
mount and blade warband
yume nikki
ikaruga
sengoku rance
and pic related.

[Anonymous No.7067248]

>>7067237
And I wonder why those people can't go to Saudi Arabia, or UAE, or Jordan... instead of Europe.

These countries are peaceful, rich, near, and Muslim. Why go to England or Germany specifically? They're racist countries by the way.

[Anonymous No.7067249]

>>7067211
>implying reddit isn't also full of inbred white supremacists

[Anonymous No.7067250]

>>7067218
>knee-jerk racism
funny it seems like the exact opposite to me
>Europe is defined by its people and cultural institutions
FUCKING WHITE SUPREMACIST GB2 /pol/

[Anonymous No.7067252]

>>7067237
>Oh, you mean the one being destroyed by a terrorist group that the US-British invasion of Iraq created?
No, I'm talking about the various peaceful west african countries the bulk of "refugees" come from.

Anyways, the idea that Europe must accept all civilians living in warzones is absolutely ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.7067261]

>>7067248
Most don't come to Europe.. And Saudi Arabia uses them as slaves, gee I wonder why people don't g there.

[Anonymous No.7067262]

>>7067249
Didn't they close those subreddits for being "racist" ?

And btw, middle easterners are the most inbred people on the planet.

[Anonymous No.7067265]

>>7067261
why doesn't Asia and Africa get pressured into accepting them?

[Anonymous No.7067271]

>>7067184
Yes. Not necessarily for narrative reasons. 2 plays with the concept of memes and you won't get as much out of it if you don't know the set up.

[Anonymous No.7067272]

>>7067250
You mean like the Tatars, descendants of the Moors, the Norman invasion of Britain, the Indo-European migration into Europe, the Spanish Inquisition that rid Spain of non-Christians, the Christian religion that spread from the Middle East, the Uralic migrations into Finland, Hungary, and Estonia, and the Hunnic Empire in Hungary?

People like you are always on the wrong side of history - have been for millennia. If it were up to you, Europe would still be inhabited by Neanderthals, as of course, the Homo Sapien migration destroyed European culture.

[Anonymous No.7067275]

>>7067261
Sounds racist. Do you have prejudice against Arabs or what?

I will not tolerate islamophobic speech on my /lit/

[Anonymous No.7067280]

>>7067272
>You mean like the Tatars,
They were a plague

> descendants of the Moors
They were kicked back into Morroco. Ever heard of the reconquista?

>the Norman invasion of Britain,
How the hell are normans not europeans?

>the Indo-European migration into Europe,
Well duh, that's where europeans come from!

>the Spanish Inquisition that rid Spain of non-Christians,
Err, what are you getting at? It seems to me like you're just citing random non-related historical events.

> the Christian religion that spread from the Middle East
Okay?

> the Uralic migrations into Finland, Hungary, and Estonia, and the Hunnic Empire in Hungary?
>le finngolians are white maymay

>People like you are always on the wrong side of history - have been for millennia. If it were up to you, Europe would still be inhabited by Neanderthals, as of course, the Homo Sapien migration destroyed European culture.
Right, but the peopling of the Americas, Australia and South Africa was a terrible genocide and white people should flagellate themselves for the rest of eternity.

[Anonymous No.7067284]

>>7067275
Literally no one believes people talk like this but /pol/ and stormfront.

Get a grip on reality.

[Anonymous No.7067285]

>>7067272
are you going to make a point or just list various European peoples (with the exception of the Moors)?

[Anonymous No.7067286]

>>7067275
It's literally true though. People who aren't high up on the social ladder can't even become citizens in those countries. Do you really want to be more like those places?

[Anonymous No.7067291]

>>7067285
My point was obvious if you read through it. European culture is not some kind of static set of peoples and ideals that exist in a vacuum. European history is part of human history. It's never been isolated and the European "race" is the product of hundreds of migrations. People thought their culture would be destroyed then and you think it will be destroyed now. You have always been wrong.

[Anonymous No.7067293]

>>7067285
>Europe should accommodate millions of african and middle eastern immigrants because of the spanish inquisition!

[Anonymous No.7067298]

>>7067291
>It's never been isolated and the European "race" is the product of hundreds of migrations.
Now that's false. The european race has remained more or less the same ever since the end of the neolithic.

You can very well adapt your culture without importing millions of foreigners. Take a look at Japan.

[Anonymous No.7067301]

>>7067291
yeah dude you're right cultures have never been destroyed and because invasions happened in the past they should be accepted now
god I can smell the swedishness through my monitor

[Anonymous No.7067303]

>>7067291
>>7067298
And I'd like to add, how is accepting millions of leeches "making history"? It makes no sense whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.7067306]

>>7067286
Yes.

We have nothing to learn from Islamic immigrants, but we have a lot of things to learn from Islamic countries.

[Anonymous No.7067312]

>>7067298
The only original Europeans are the Basques. The others all come from Indo-European migrations from Urheimat through Iran (Celts, Albanians, Greeks, Balts, Slavs, Germanic tribes), the Ural Mountains (Finns, Estonians, Hungarians), and Central Asia (the Hungarians, who descend from Xiongnu).

[Anonymous No.7067317]

>>7067312
>The only original Europeans are the Basques
Hence why I said "since the end of the neolithic".

Europeans post-indo-european expansion have remained racially the same. The european race has not changed since the beginning of civilization in Europe.

[Anonymous No.7067320]

>>7067306
How are there so many of you fascists on /lit/ right now? You want to be like an Islamic country? Their insularity goes against what your beloved Western culture supposedly stands for.

[Anonymous No.7067322]

>>7067320
>Their insularity goes against what your beloved Western culture supposedly stands for.
then why do you want to fucking import them?

[Anonymous No.7067325]

>>7067320
>How are there so many of you fascists on /lit/ right now?
Wanting to preserve your race and culture has nothing to do with fascism.

[Anonymous No.7067328]

>>7067317
>everything should be like it was in exactly 2000 BCE
I don't understand, why exactly should the people who lived in Europe at the end of the neolithic be the only ones considered Europeans?

[Anonymous No.7067339]

>>7067272
>equating conquerors with people fleeing religious war into the arms of countries suffering from idealist judeo-christian morality
What.

[Anonymous No.7067340]

>>7067328
because those are the people that built Europe?
why do you refuse to accept that a geopolitical area is defined by its people?

[Anonymous No.7067342]

>>7067328
>I don't understand, why exactly should the people who lived in Europe at the end of the neolithic be the only ones considered Europeans?
Because they have continuously inhabited Europe from 2000bc to today?

What you're basically saying is that Japanese people are not really japanese because they conquered Japan from the Ainu a long time ago, and therefore it is perfectly fine and even good to flood Japan with millions of middle easterners and africans who share no racial or cultural ties whatsoever with Japan.

[Anonymous No.7067347]

>>7067328
>why should no one before the first europeans be considered europeans?
What.

[Anonymous No.7067354]

Raspail successfully predicted the future? So France was invaded by boatloads of Hindus led by a deformed infant and a guy who eats turds?

[Anonymous No.7067358]

>>7067347
The first Europeans were the Neanderthals, and then the Basque culture. Are you being ignorant on purpose or are you really this illiterate?

[Anonymous No.7067363]

>>7067340
The Moors also built Europe, so I'd like you to invite the Moors back to rule Al-Andalus.

Do you see why your argument doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.7067364]

>>7067358
Why don't you answer these posts, faggot?

>>7067340
>>7067342

[Anonymous No.7067367]

>>7067363
>The Moors also built Europe,
No they didn't. They built a foreign civilization in what is now european soil. But they were a different people, a different race and a different culture.

[Anonymous No.7067372]

>>7067354
The funniest part of claiming that he was right is the fact that Hindus repudiate religion in government wherever they are. Even the three majority-Hindu countries in the world have secular constitutions, and the only Hindus who leave India are skilled immigrants who tend to be very private with their religion.

[Anonymous No.7067376]

>>7067364
I fucking did you nigger. >>7067363
>>>7067340
>The Moors also built Europe, so I'd like you to invite the Moors back to rule Al-Andalus.
>Do you see why your argument doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.7067379]

>>7067363
sure if you agree to invite Europeans back to rule everywhere they colonised?
honestly man do you really think that all this tension is just going to blow over?
Europe will just die quietly?
whether you like it or not it's going to get worse

[Anonymous No.7067384]

>>7067188
>Marx
>not a racist as fuck person

I am sure the man that said that asian economics are outside of History and irrelevant is surely a SJW. Not to mention the whole western supremacist thing in him. Kill yourself ameritrash.

[Anonymous No.7067387]

>>7067367
>>7067367
>>>7067363 (You)
>The Indo-Europeans also built Europe.
No they didn't. They built a foreign civilization in what is now european soil. But they were a different people, a different race and a different culture.

Unless you still worship Dyeus-Pitr and speak a language similar to Sanskrit.

[Anonymous No.7067396]

>>7067387
>They built a foreign civilization in what is now european soil. But they were a different people, a different race and a different culture.
Except they were NOT a foreign civilization. They were NOT a different race. They were the ANCESTORS of MODERN DAY EUROPEANS!

How fucking stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.7067399]

>>7067363
wait who was on the wrong side of history in that context?
I thought anyone that resisted invasion was on the wrong side of history but the Moors were driven out?

[Anonymous No.7067402]

>>7067190
Why so much McLuhan lately?

[Anonymous No.7067405]

>>7067379
You genuinely don't understand. I was making the same kind of argument that you were. If culture is as immutable as you seem to think, then why isn't Spain still Muslim? That's my point. Cultures change as different groups assimilate and migrate. Do you know how many Spanish words are derived from Arabic? Did you know that Maltese is a Semitic language?

Europe has never been the homogeneous isolate you seem to think it used to be.

[Anonymous No.7067415]

>>7067405
>then why isn't Spain still Muslim?
Good question! Why does Al-Andalus not exist nowadays?

Could it be because of the massive migration of non-berber non-muslim peoples into Iberia?

I mean if massive migrations of racially and culturally foreign peoples don't compromise the existence of the current civilization, what happened in Iberia?

[Anonymous No.7067418]

>>7067396
SO WERE THE MOORS

SO WERE THE HUNS (XIONGNU)

We have the technology to prove that this is the case.

Mixed race Europeans today are equally European.

Europe has never been the inbred, homogeneous shithole you think it was. No culture exists in a vacuum.

[Anonymous No.7067422]

>>7067387
The concept of Europe comes from the Indo-European migration onward. If they hadn't done so there would be no "Europe". Europe "before" the neolithic only uses the term because it is the same geographic area.

[Anonymous No.7067425]

>>7067418
>SO WERE THE MOORS
>SO WERE THE HUNS (XIONGNU)
The moors were a semitic people and the huns a mongolic people.

They were not related in anyways to modern europeans, who are of indo-european stock.

Now kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7067428]

>>7067415
Are you this thick? You're literally arguing my point. The culture changes. It changed when the Moors entered Spain and it changed again when the Moors were killed, converted, or banished from Spain. But you will never experience the culture of Spain from before it ever interacted with the Berbers. Your only frame of reference is the version of Spain that existed post-Inquisition.

[Anonymous No.7067430]

>>7067320
Islamic countries are not "insular" or "fascist", did you ever get to UAE or Morocco?

You really sound like an islamophobe now.

Pic related, the "fascist" king of Jordan and his "insular" wife.

[Anonymous No.7067431]

>>7067425
>what is the modern Spanish people
>what is the modern Hungarian people

You deny history on the /lit/ board, and you tell me to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.7067434]

>>7067405
>Europe has never been the homogeneous isolate you seem to think it used to be.
I have never implied it was
>exist in a vacuum
>wrong side of history
you fucking live and breath your shit tier state supplied ideology and it's painfully obvious through your language
your 'point' seems to be that Europe has experienced a number of changes over history so any resistance to any change no matter how devastating is illegitimate
one day reality is going to hit you in the back of the head and hold you down and fuck you

[Anonymous No.7067435]

>>7067428
>Are you this thick? You're literally arguing my point. The culture changes. It changed when the Moors entered Spain and it changed again when the Moors were killed, converted, or banished from Spain.
Culture didn't change, the ethnic composition of the Iberian peninsula changed. And in both cases of change, there resulted in widespread civilization collapse (first of the Visigothic kingdom when the moors invaded, then of Al Andalus with the reconquista).

Is this what you desire? The civilizational collapse of Europe?

>>7067431
Modern spaniards and hungarians are both of indo-european stock. There was practically no genetic legacy left by the moors or the huns.

[Anonymous No.7067436]

>>7067434
Thanks for your concern, but I think I'm more concerned about white nationalists such as yourself considering that I'm descended from Indian immigrants.

[Anonymous No.7067438]

>>7067436
I'm not a white nationalist but yes you should be concerned about them, I never said who would be doing the fucking
your opinion on Europe means literally nothing if you're not European btw

[Anonymous No.7067439]

>equating victorious adaptive conquerors with the weak fleeing religious war into the arms of countries suffering from idealist judeo-christian morality
One of you started arguing from this point but didn't back up your analogy.

[Anonymous No.7067445]

>>7067438
Well considering that the only languages I speak are English and French, and I've never lived in India, it would be quite difficult to argue that I'm Indian.

[Anonymous No.7067446]

>>7067436
It's funny, I'm also of indian origin (partially).

Makes me fucking ashamed how marxist and anti-white indian immigrants are in the West.

I bet your views on indian colonization differ from your views on the current colonization of europe, don't they?

[Anonymous No.7067448]

If it weren't for white people/european people we would be without writing, math, and probably complex government.

Why do people get so fucking rustled over this? Name one good thing mudskins have done.

[Anonymous No.7067460]

>>7067446
Only insofar as the force and violence that was used was a bad thing. I have no problem with people of any origin living in India, and I don't have any creepy desire to preserve Indian ethnicities, since Indians are a product of a number of cultural influences and ethnic sources.

[Anonymous No.7067463]

>>7067445
seeing as your genetic stock is from India no it wouldn't
sorry you didn't get to be a part of the greatest civilisations to ever exist but please don't try and destroy Europe because of your inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.7067464]

>>7067460
>and I don't have any creepy desire to preserve Indian ethnicities
That's rich coming from the most elitist culture in the world.

I'd wager you're a brahmin too

[Anonymous No.7067467]

Any sane person should be against mass immigration from Africa and the middle east into Europe. Well any sane European anyway. It is one position that is entirely indefensible.

[Anonymous No.7067470]

>>7067463
This is why people like you are wrong. Because you believe that the only factor that determines a person's worth is his or her ethnicity. If you are so insecure about your own accomplishments that you count the accomplishments of people that looked vaguely similar to you, I pity you immensely.

[Anonymous No.7067479]

>>7067470
>This is why people like you are wrong.
according to who?

[Anonymous No.7067486]

>>7067467
Any sane person is against mass-immigration from one region to another, because a certain level of homogeneity is essential to a functioning society.

[Anonymous No.7067489]

>>7067464
How the fuck does it come from my culture? Do you think I go around separating people into different castes and religions? I do not represent Indians, and the fact that you group people not on the basis of their individual beliefs but on the basis of what their ancestors did or believed shows that you're blind to what I'm arguing against.

[Anonymous No.7067492]

>have Puerto Rican girlfriend with a graduate degree
>Latina friend and her Asian boyfriend are serious top m8s
>gay friend pursuing history degree, always a good conversationalist
>a website which is the home of NEETs and the pitifully employed start demanding racial cleansing and hard conservatism
>start accusing my friends of being dead weight

For my sake, and my friends' sakes, I hope you guys stay in your mom's trailer.

[Anonymous No.7067496]

>>7067486
Homogeneity in what sense? People need to read the same books?
Or believe the same ideology?
I'm assuming from the way you worded it that you just mean that they need to look like each other.

[Anonymous No.7067500]

>>7067492
you forgot the wheelchair kid Captain Planet

[Anonymous No.7067502]

>>7066476
Physically kill yourself

[Anonymous No.7067507]

>>7067500
>I have friends of different races
>I'm now a caricature

No, I just get out.

[Anonymous No.7067514]

>>7067489
>How the fuck does it come from my culture?
Hindu culture is the most elitist in the world.

>Do you think I go around separating people into different castes and religions?
No, but it's the foundation of hinduism, is it not?

Anyways, seems like I struck a nerve. The brahmin marxist. How typical.

Anyways, another reason why you might not care if non-indians migrate to India is 1)You don't live there, 2)India is a shithole, 3)There are plenty of indians.

Do you think the colonization of the Americas benefited the native americans?

[Anonymous No.7067515]

>>7067496
I mean they should share the same basic beliefs and cultural mores.

What /pol/tards don't get is that the problems they're seeing didn't begin with mass immigration, but that mass immigration is simply a continuation of something that started in earnest with the Reformation.

[Anonymous No.7067522]

>>7067492
>pick personal examples of the top 1% of immigrants who were probably rich in their own country to begin with
>see everybody mass immigration is great! they're all super smart and nice people!

mass immigration from underdeveloped countries increases crime, decreases wages and decreases national altruism (less likely to support a large welfare state, etc).

[Anonymous No.7067526]

>>7067479
According to history. You set up arbitrary distinctions (2000 BCE) that you cannot even justify. In reality, nothing is as black and white as you make it out to be, and your only intent is to preserve a mythology that allows you specifically to use the accomplishments of others as a way of excusing your own lack of success.

[Anonymous No.7067531]

>>7067492
>restricting immigration is equal to racial cleansing

stop

[Anonymous No.7067536]

>>7067526
>According to history.
What are the historical achievements of the australian aboriginals?

[Anonymous No.7067537]

>>7067526
once again these are typical weak ass talking points
I don't want my culture and people destroyed, mass immigration in its current form will do exactly that
it's that simple, I don't care about "being on the wrong side of history"

[Anonymous No.7067543]

>>7067514
I am 1) not religious, 2) not a Marxist, and 3) not defined exclusively by what my ancestors did. And the invasion of the Americas was carried out using force, violence, and exploitation, which is precisely the part of changes in culture that I already mentioned that I disagree with.

You can't just call people who disagree with you Marxists. Have you even read Marx? Nothing I have said has relied on economic materialism in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.7067547]

>>7067526
>You set up arbitrary distinctions (2000 BCE) that you cannot even justify.
The justification is pretty clear : modern day europeans descend from the people who migrated into europe in 2000bc.

Is starting the history of the USA in the early 1600s also an "arbitrary distinction"?

[Anonymous No.7067558]

>>7067536
>Choose to analyze one group of people living on an isolated landmass which is largely desert
>They didn't develop civilization, therefore they are inferior

Yeah, m8, this logic is infallible.

[Anonymous No.7067566]

>>7067543
>I am 1) not religious
What does that have to do with anything? Being a brahmin is a race-thing not a religion-thing.

>2) not a Marxist,
You just happen to support massive third world immigration into Europe...

> 3) not defined exclusively by what my ancestors did.
You are defined by WHO your ancestors are. Whether you like it or not, you're a brahmin.

>And the invasion of the Americas was carried out using force, violence, and exploitation
Not really. It was initially just a settler colony. Let's talk about pre-independence america.

We can talk about other examples too. What's your opinion of the turkish migration into Anatolia. How did the Byzantine empire turn out?

[Anonymous No.7067568]

>>7067536
Abos haven't done shit, but we're not talking about Aboriginal immigration. We're talking about Syrian immigration. The Middle East was part of the Roman Empire and even after it was Islamicized and Arabized, it continued to be a centre for learning until Baghdad was sacked by the Mongols. Do I really have to argue that your worth should not be determined by your race?

[Anonymous No.7067571]

>>7067558
>>Choose to analyze one group of people living on an isolated landmass which is largely desert
It's actually a desert because abos have burnt down its native flora and hunted to extinction its native fauna.

>>They didn't develop civilization, therefore they are inferior
They didn't develop anything. They are indeed the most inferior race of the human species still alive today. A relic of the paleolithic.

[Anonymous No.7067572]

>>7067543
>And the invasion of the Americas was carried out using force, violence, and exploitation
which is how the mass immigration into Europe is also carried out

[Anonymous No.7067578]

>>7067568
>Abos haven't done shit, but we're not talking about Aboriginal immigration
Let's talk about it though. Would a massive australian aboriginal migration from Australia to, say, Sweden, benefit Sweden?

>We're talking about Syrian immigration
The bulk of the "refugees" flooding Europe are economic migrants from West Africa.

[Anonymous No.7067582]

>>7067087
This

[Anonymous No.7067583]

>>7067507
You are a an anglo, thus your opinions should not taken seriously. You are brainwashed by the neo-liberal capitalist ideology of your state-aparatus. You are not a human, as most anglos aren't you.

[Anonymous No.7067584]

>>7067568
>>7067578
>The Middle East was part of the Roman Empire and even after it was Islamicized and Arabized
Actually it wasn't. It was then part of the caliphate.

>Do I really have to argue that your worth should not be determined by your race?
Individual worth, sure. Judge everyone as an individual.

But we're not talking about individuals here, but about groups. Here, group dynamics takes precedence. The law of large numbers starts to be felt.

The truth is, the average intelligence of the current migrants to Europe is inferior to the average intelligence of ethnic europeans.

[Anonymous No.7067595]

>>7067402

I'm unstoppable today
don't ban me

[Anonymous No.7067611]

>>7067566>>7067566
>>>7067543 (You)
>>I am 1) not religious
>What does that have to do with anything? Being a brahmin is a race-thing not a religion-thing.
What does my race have to do with anything?
>>2) not a Marxist,
>You just happen to support massive third world immigration into Europe...
I do not support massive third world immigration into Europe. I support the idea that culture is not static and does not exist in a vacuum, and believe that an individual's worth is not a function of his or her race.
>> 3) not defined exclusively by what my ancestors did.
>You are defined by WHO your ancestors are. Whether you like it or not, you're a brahmin.
Apart from easing the path to emigration for my grandparents, this has no bearing on the way I live since I have never lived in India. I still don't know what you're trying to prove by pointing out that my ancestors were Hindu priests.
>>And the invasion of the Americas was carried out using force, violence, and exploitation
>Not really. It was initially just a settler colony. Let's talk about pre-independence america.
Even then there was quite a lot of violence as well as less of an attempt at contributing to culture as at replacing it.
>We can talk about other examples too. What's your opinion of the turkish migration into Anatolia. How did the Byzantine empire turn out?
I would say it turned out pretty damn well considering that Istanbul was considered the "Third Rome", that Turks today are Turkicized Byzantines, and that the flood of Greek scholars into Italy triggered the Renaissance. The reason Turkey is the way that it is today has less to do with that specific event than it has to do with the decline of the Muslim world. You're coming at this with the perspective that Islam is inherently worse than Christianity, which is understandable at this time in history. But you have to understand that Turks are happy that they live in Istanbul as it is now and not Constantinople as it was then.
>>7067566

[Anonymous No.7067615]

>>7067584
>>>7067568 (You)
>>>7067578
>>The Middle East was part of the Roman Empire and even after it was Islamicized and Arabized
>Actually it wasn't. It was then part of the caliphate.
I think you misread what I wrote. There's an and in there. I'm not arguing that it continued to be a part of the Roman Empire but that it continued to be a center of learning for a while after.

[Anonymous No.7067629]

>>7067584
>starving, war-ravaged masses aren't as educated as yurop

Wow big surprise, tell me more

also tell me your system of separating people by "intelligence". Would it perhaps end in a "final solution"?

[Anonymous No.7067639]

>>7067584
>>7067578
>>7067572
I haven't been arguing for mass immigration. I've been arguing for treating individuals on the basis of their personal beliefs and actions, and not dismissing people off-hand for not being white. If Sweden needs doctors and 10,000 Aboriginal doctors (an unlikely concept but bear with me) want to leave Australia, then there's no reason they should be disqualified on the basis of their race. If 8,000 of them turn out to sniff gasoline, maybe don't accept those 8,000 but the other 2,000 have nothing to do with those 8,000.

[Anonymous No.7067658]

>>7067611
>What does my race have to do with anything?
I just find it funny. VS Naipaul wrote a book about guys like you.

>I do not support massive third world immigration into Europe. I support the idea that culture is not static and does not exist in a vacuum, and believe that an individual's worth is not a function of his or her race.
Do you believe in group differences, such as racial differences in intelligence?

Do you believe multiracialism to be possible within a society?

>Apart from easing the path to emigration for my grandparents, this has no bearing on the way I live since I have never lived in India. I still don't know what you're trying to prove by pointing out that my ancestors were Hindu priests.
I'm not trying to prove anything, I'm just making a funny observation. You're like those liberal jews who encourage race mixing.

>Even then there was quite a lot of violence as well as less of an attempt at contributing to culture as at replacing it.
What historical examples are there of massive migrations not accompanied by violence? You cited Al Andalus, but the initial conquest by the moors as well as its reconquest by christians were both very violent events.

>I would say it turned out pretty damn well considering that Istanbul was considered the "Third Rome"
Yeah, I'm sure the millions of greeks and armenians who were crucified by turks share your sentiment.

Are you historically illiterate? The conquest of Constantinople was a bloodbath.

>and that the flood of Greek scholars into Italy triggered the Renaissance.
That is such a bullshit reason. I'm sure you're the kind of guy who claims that the mongol expansion was just great because it allowed for security on the silk road! Never mind that they killed 60 million people!

>The reason Turkey is the way that it is today has less to do with that specific event than it has to do with the decline of the Muslim world.
It has to do with the average IQ of the turk.

The muslim world didn't decline. It just didn't advance.

>You're coming at this with the perspective that Islam is inherently worse than Christianity,
No, I think race to be more important than religion when describing historical events.

> But you have to understand that Turks are happy that they live in Istanbul as it is now and not Constantinople as it was then.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I'm sure the british colonists in India were pretty happy with themselves. Was it all fine and dandy then?

>>7067615
Okay, my bad.

>>7067629
It has nothing to do with education, but about raw intellectual power. The average illiterate mongolian goat herder scores higher on an IQ test than your average inner city dindu.

>also tell me your system of separating people by "intelligence". Would it perhaps end in a "final solution"?
Yes, I'm an evil nazi and I shake my fist angrily talking about the jews! You got me!

[Anonymous No.7067663]

>>7067639
>Australia, then there's no reason they should be disqualified on the basis of their race.
But racially homogeneous societies are far better than racially diverse societies. Why is this so hard to grasp?

[Anonymous No.7067678]

>>7067658
The Dark Enlightenment is on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.7067686]

1984 did quite well, memes aside

[Anonymous No.7067687]

>>7067678
Yeah, it's depressing to see /lit/ ruined.

[Anonymous No.7067691]

>>7067678
I don't even know what that is.

[Anonymous No.7067717]

>>7067691
It's the reactionary movement toward ethnic cleansing and intolerance of minorities, homosexuals, and women that has become popular recently. It's why the word "degenerate" leaves a bad taste in my mouth in discussions of literature.

[Anonymous No.7067726]

>>7067717
>It's the reactionary movement toward ethnic cleansing and intolerance of minorities, homosexuals, and women that has become popular recently.
Oh.

I do agree with that, I didn't know it had a name.

[Anonymous No.7067759]

>>7067446
If you're mixed race, doesn't that make you the degeneracy you argue against? How do you reconcile the fact that you don't live in your ancestors' homeland if you're a product of miscegenation?

[Anonymous No.7067770]

>>7067087
fucking this.

[Anonymous No.7067774]

>>7067759
>If you're mixed race, doesn't that make you the degeneracy you argue against?
I don't control who I am.

>How do you reconcile the fact that you don't live in your ancestors' homeland if you're a product of miscegenation?
I do live in the ancestral homeland of one side of my ancestors.

[Anonymous No.7067783]

>>7067774
Isn't that hypocritical? No one controls who they are.

[Anonymous No.7067792]

>>7067783
>Isn't that hypocritical?
Why is it? Just because I'm myself not entirely white, I'm not going to advocate for the destruction of the white race. That would be petty and selfish.

[Anonymous No.7067794]

>>7067087
Shit...

We are the Last Men, aren´t we?

[Anonymous No.7067811]

>>7067792
No, you're deflecting, which is a common far right tactic. What I'm suggesting is that it's hypocritical for you to argue against immigration, the mixing of cultures, and for the subjugation of women and homosexuals when no one chooses their race, sex, or sexuality. You're making an argument that seems to tie in with Rawls's veil, yet you seem to be opposed to decisions that consider the veil in all cases but your own.

[Anonymous No.7067823]

>>7067811
>No, you're deflecting,
I'm not.

>which is a common far right tactic. What I'm suggesting is that it's hypocritical for you to argue against immigration, the mixing of cultures,
But why? Because I'm myself mixed-race?

Are you here being racist yourself? Because I'm mixed race, I HAVE to be pro-immigration? Why?

>and for the subjugation of women and homosexuals when no one chooses their race, sex, or sexuality.
Sure, but everyone choose who they want to associate with. If a group of people only want to associate between themselves, who are you to deny them that right?

[Anonymous No.7067851]

>>7067823
I'm not saying you need to be pro-immigration. I'm saying that it's deeply ironic and hypocritical for you to be anti-immigration. Of course everyone is free to associate with whomever they want, but in your case I just find it hilarious that a mixed race individual believes in the Dark Enlightenment. You would be the first against the wall.

But you find a lot of that in the Dark Enlightenment. People who have internalized the hatred and intolerance directed their way.

[Anonymous No.7067868]

>>7067851
>I'm not saying you need to be pro-immigration. I'm saying that it's deeply ironic and hypocritical for you to be anti-immigration.
Well you see, since it's a dichotomy...

And once again, why is it hypocritical? Because I'm mixed-race? In your opinion, my racial heritage should de facto dictate my political opinions?

> Of course everyone is free to associate with whomever they want, but in your case I just find it hilarious that a mixed race individual believes in the Dark Enlightenment.
I don't even know what the fuck the "Dark enlightenment" is. You just seem to call anything you don't like "the dark enlightenment".

>But you find a lot of that in the Dark Enlightenment. People who have internalized the hatred and intolerance directed their way.
Lol wut, you don't know anything about me.

Funny how you're the first to resort to stereotypes and sweeping generalizations...

[Anonymous No.7067911]

>>7067868
That's my point though. If I use the logic you use, it becomes clear that you support views that if applied to you would not be good for you.

[Anonymous No.7067930]

>>7067911
>If I use the logic you use, it becomes clear that you support views that if applied to you would not be good for you.
Not really. My ancestors didn't hop onto a dinghy with the hope of leeching off the welfare state of a rich european country. My parents met when they were both international students at the same university.

And even so, if a racially white Europe comes at the price of me never being able to go live there, I would gladly accept. I put the needs of Europeans above my own. I don't share the nigger mentality of "GIBS ME DAT".

[Anonymous No.7067946]

>>7067291
That's factually wrong. Europeans are genetically almost identical to DNA remains found on bodies dating back to antiquity. Up to the 20th century external population admixtures have been incredibly limited in spite of all the invasions.

[Anonymous No.7067959]

>>7067930
>I put the needs of Europeans above my own.
LOL a beta cuck like all Bindis.

[Anonymous No.7067978]

>>7067959
>LOL a beta cuck like all Bindis.
Why does that make me a "beta cuck" exactly?

[Anonymous No.7067991]

>>7067978
you're no european, a mule isn't a horse because its parent was. you might as well bend over and stick your ass out for nigger cocks to rip you apart

just cuck my shit up fam

[Anonymous No.7068007]

I don't see how not wanting mass-immigration makes one a white supremacist.

[Anonymous No.7068014]

We should let those Muslims into our countries because we all know how much of the greatest /lit/ material is lifted directly from that culture.

So what for the book burnings? the whole idea of a book burning is to purge those ideas from a culture. nietzsche himself would probably be pro immigration if he were to be around progressive we lucked out to grow up in

[Anonymous No.7068016]

>>7067991
>you're no european
I never claimed to be.

I'm not japanese either, yet I don't want Japan to be destroyed by hordes of unwashed middle easterners. Does that make me a "beta cuck" for Japan too?

My neighbor has a nicer garden than I have. Yet I do not feel any urge to destroy it. Am I being a "beta cuck" here too?

What is it with niggers (I'm assuming you're a nigger) and their wish to destroy everything they cannot have.

[Anonymous No.7068038]

>>7067243
>mount and blade

Why? are there good historic mods, I played vanilla and its generic historical fantasy as fuck

[Anonymous No.7068074]

>>7067228
>the problem is not my knee-jerk stupid reaction, it's YOUR stupid knee-jerk reaction

Nigga pls.

>>7067229

The whites actually come from the Caucase and places like that, so yeah Europe ain't really their homeland. The Greeks were well aware of that btw.

>>7067448
> writing

The Sumerians invented writing. All the alphabet currently used in Europe derive from the Phenician alphabet. The Phenicians were Semits.

>math

What are Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, and India ? What are the Arabs and the Persians ? What is Japan ?

>complex government

What is China ?

The fun thing is you could have chosen ten things that were unarguably and exclusively invented by the Europeans, but you chose three that weren't. Next time you want to shoot at an opponent try not to aim your own foot.

>Name one good thing mudskins have done.

What is a "mudskin" ? If you mean Middle-East people (some of them are white-skinned, but nevermind), they invented writing, our first mathematics, algebra, agriculture and the wheel. If you mean Asian they invented writing (independantly from the Middle East), gunpowder, crossbows, complex government (the Chinese administration oversaw the building of the only manmade structure visible from the Moon, remember ? and that's only one example), and mathematics (again on their own, note that for instance one Chinese mathematician proved a more complete version of several Euler results more than three centuries before him- and Euler is considered one of the greatest mathematician ever).
That's just on the top of my head. Don't get me started on philosophy, medecine, military tactics or astronomy.

So before you complain about other cultures, I suggest you start learning from yours first. You know one thing european people (well the Greeks) invented ? History.

>>7067658
>Do you believe multiracialism to be possible within a society?
Not him, but the US is a society where multiracialism has existed for centuries. Wether that's evidence for or against multiracialism is anyone's guess (or opinion, whatever) but you can't really say different races have never coexisted for centuries in a same country.

>>7067663
Yemen is doing better than the US now ?
You niggerbastards have to stop with the child-like maxims.

[Anonymous No.7068077]

>>7067322
I tend to consider myself more inclined towards the left than to the right and even i cannot get over how these short-sighted and self-congratulating these public 'empathisers' are. They would wilfully accommodate those who are, to be blunt, politically and socially, oppositional to what the lefties values are. These people are right wing, they do not hold the values you do, and their breeding skills are wildly more successful. How is it these Western empathisers not foresee self injury on the horizon?

[Anonymous No.7068091]

>>7068074
>The whites actually come from the Caucase

What the fuck i am reading.

[Anonymous No.7068107]

>>7068074
>The whites actually come from the Caucase and places like that,
What? Oh wait, because of the word "caucasian"? It's misleading. Whites don't come from the Caucasus, lol. They come from central asia originally but they settled in Europe around 2000BC and have been there ever since.

>Not him, but the US is a society where multiracialism has existed for centuries
Not really, it was more akin to a caste-based society until the 1960s. There were anti-interracial marriage laws until then, you know.

>Yemen is doing better than the US now ?
That's not a really fair comparison. Yemen is undergoing a civil war. Let's compare what is comparable.

South Korea and Japan have lower crime rates than America.

[Anonymous No.7068119]

>>7068107
Japan only has a low crime rate because the Yakuza does all the crime and the police have deals in place with them. It's estimated that more than half the suicides in Japan are actually murders by the Yakuza.

[Anonymous No.7068132]

>>7068119
>Japan only has a low crime rate because the Yakuza does all the crime and the police have deals in place with them.
No, there's plenty of organized crime in the USA y'know.

If you want a better example, compare the reaction of Japanese people after Fukushima and the reaction of black people after Katrina.

The Japanese quickly organized and volunteered to help with the relief effort.

Blacks jumped on the opportunity to loot, murder and rape.

[Anonymous No.7068157]

>>7068091
What the fuck is Indo-European migration ?

I know, not all whites are Indo-European, and vice-versa, but since "white" doesn't really mean anything precise outside of the US or South Africa, we might as well use something that does instead.

>>7068107
> Oh wait, because of the word "caucasian"?
>Caucase and places like that

"And places like that" means "outside Europe".

> They come from central asia

So I guess we agree ? There are still Indo-European and white (however you define it) people outside Europe btw. In terms of total population it's not even sure Europe was ever the place where most Indo-European lived.

>That's not a really fair comparison. Yemen is undergoing a civil war.

And that shouldn't factor in "being better" or not ? Do you think Yemen was better off than the US before the civil war ?

>South Korea and Japan have lower crime rates than America.

And Japan has an ageing population, a stagnating economy, nuclear and political issues way beyond what the US currently has, not to mention the suicide and organized crime as >>7068119 says. But you could talk about almost any Arab country, before or after the Arab Spring, or even about Russia which has greater racial homogeneity than the US.

[Anonymous No.7068163]

>>7068007
Nothing is more important to bourgeois SJWs than showing overt disdain for European culture and white males in general. You would really think there would be a greater unifying principle than this but their really isn't. If you aren't enthusiastic about bringing in as many third world immigrants as possible and ignoring or excusing every bad consequence associate with doing so, you are considered pure evil.

[Anonymous No.7068172]

If you guys are interested, when I get home from work I can calculate the correlation between homogeneity and gdp and hdi. I think it'll show that there's essentially no relation between homogeneity and quality of life.

[Anonymous No.7068179]

>>7068157
>"And places like that" means "outside Europe".
Sure. We all come from africa, if you go back that far. Are the neanderthals the true owners of Europe?

It makes no sense to say "well europeans originally came from elsewhere" as proof that immigration is somehow good. The relevant fact here is that those indo europeans who settled in europe thousands of years ago have lived there continuously ever since and are the ancestors of modern europeans.

> There are still Indo-European and white (however you define it) people outside Europe btw
Yes, I'm aware that europeans colonized North America and Australia.

>And that shouldn't factor in "being better" or not ?
No it shouldn't, just as comparing Europe during WW2 to, say, Brazil, would not have been fair.

>Do you think Yemen was better off than the US before the civil war ?
It was better off than Rwanda.

>And Japan has an ageing population, a stagnating economy, nuclear and political issues way beyond what the US currently has, not to mention the suicide and organized crime as >>7068119 says.
An ageing population is not bad, despite what the leftist media tells you. Perhaps it's got a stagnating economy, but it has a lower unemployment rate than the USA. Suicide is cultural in Japan, as for organized crime at least the Yakuza don't play "the knockout game".

>But you could talk about almost any Arab country, before or after the Arab Spring, or even about Russia which has greater racial homogeneity than the US.
Haha you're full of shit. Russia racially homogeneous? It's one of the most heterogeneous countries in the world!

[Anonymous No.7068194]

>>7068179
Russia has a lot of racial groups, but it's more than 95 percent ethnically Russian, so no. Also an intro economics course would show you that an aging population is bad and immigration is Pareto optimal, but of course economics is a Zionist conspiracy, right?

[Anonymous No.7068202]

>>7068194
Anyways, Russia was badly affected by the horrors of communism.

>Also an intro economics course would show you that an aging population is bad and immigration is Pareto optimal, but of course economics is a Zionist conspiracy, right?
First of all, I'm a zionist.

Second of all, while it's true that an ageing population is bad for the economy of a country, there's something even worse : immigrants with an average IQ two standards of deviation below the average.

At some point, I think it's sensible to sacrifice absolute economic efficiency for the racial well-being of the nation.

[Anonymous No.7068207]

>/pol/fag revisionists actually believe that threads this useless and shitty and racefaggotry were commonplace 7-13 years ago

>>7068172
>Implying people this far to either side of the political spectrum believe numbers that conflict with the narrative that they've constructed for themselves/

[Anonymous No.7068211]

>>7068194
All immigration does economically is drive down wages and working conditions. Nowhere in the developed world is even close to being at full employment, so immigration won't possibly be helpful, just the opposite.

[Anonymous No.7068219]

>>7068202
Good nutrition increases IQ by 13 points on average. And you can't disqualify countries on the basis of civil wars or communism. They made those decisions as homogeneous countries. Their strife is a fact of their homogeneity.

[Anonymous No.7068222]

>>7068207
>>Implying people this far to either side of the political spectrum believe numbers that conflict with the narrative that they've constructed for themselves/

putnam study? a very heterogeneous society is bad for trust and is generally associated with a smaller welfare state due to lower communal altruism.

[Anonymous No.7068224]

tried to report this thread but realized I had already reported it

[Anonymous No.7068233]

>>7068224
There are no mods on this board tbh

[Anonymous No.7068237]

>>7068219
>Good nutrition increases IQ by 13 points on average.
Right, we can expect the african IQ to rise from 70 to 85, which is the black american average.

>. And you can't disqualify countries on the basis of civil wars or communism
Of course I can. You literally just explained how nutrition affects IQ. You know what affects nutrition? Communism and civil war.

>They made those decisions as homogeneous countries
The vast majority of bolsheviks were not ethnic russians, but poles, latvians, ukrainians, georgians and jews.

Likewise, Yemen is not a unified country, but is divided along religious lines. The current civil war is a result of shia/sunni conflict.

>Their strife is a fact of their homogeneity.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. There cannot be strife where there is homogeneity.

>>7068224
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.7068255]

There is a good catch-all word for the loyalty, trust, and goodwill engendered by societies united by a common identity. That word is "asabiyya" and it was used in this sense by Ibn Khaldun.

>Realizes Ibn Khaldun was a Tunisian.
>Kills self for citing a North African Arab.

[Anonymous No.7068259]

>>7068038
go to /vg/ and vanilla is pretty neat in of itself. it's great how empires are forged in skirmishes on godforsaken knolls.

try gekokujo and warsword.

[Anonymous No.7069128]

>>7068207
>/pol/fag revisionists actually believe that threads this useless and shitty and racefaggotry were commonplace 7-13 years ago
the issues of today are different to 7-13 years ago who would have thought?

[Anonymous No.7069145]

>>7067243
wow nice entry level shit list

[Anonymous No.7069149]

>>7069145
calm down sperg

[Anonymous No.7069166]

>>7067087
nice artwork

[Anonymous No.7070482]

>>7067127
It's the same situation here. No one has heard of him outside of our own far-right circles. Houellebecq is the only contemporary French author known in America/the anglosphere.

[Anonymous No.7070489]

>>7066476
>185 replies and 8 images omitted. Click here to view.

[Anonymous No.7070492]

>>7068119
>It's estimated that more than half the suicides in Japan are actually murders by the Yakuza.
source?

[Anonymous No.7070495]

>>7066476
btw great job mods

[Anonymous No.7070526]

mods mods please save me mods i'm a cool hep cat who needs mods to save him on internet forum mods pls mods help why don't we have any mods plz structure discourse from the top down so i don't have to use my words

[Anonymous No.7070532]

>>7070495
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.7070543]

>>7066566
The Church of Google
The Nine Proofs
» PROOF #1
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» PROOF #2
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» PROOF #3
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» PROOF #4
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» PROOF #6
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» PROOF #7
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» PROOF #8
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God is thought to be an entity in which we mortals can turn to when in a time of need. Google clearly fulfils this to a much larger degree than traditional "gods"
» PROOF #9
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[Anonymous No.7070561]

>>7070543
>Google can "do no evil" (Omnibenevolent). Part of Google's corporate philosophy is the belief that a company can make money without being evil.
good one m8

[Anonymous No.7070735]

People are actually supporting the idea of supporting an influx of people who actually spent a whole lot of money to get to Europe, often called 'refugees', here?

[Anonymous No.7070780]

>>7067216
Everything exists at the expense of some other, even you do.

Should lions be exterminated because they have been so successful in tracking down various animals that graze upon the flatfland? Maybe we should see that we exterminate certain breeds of germs that are living at the expense of other germs? You should also consider ending yourself as you are on top of the food chain and most of the things below have died to feed you and your habbit of shitposting on a Faroese whaling enthuziast image board. If you were ever to be conscious of how much life you have indirectly exinguished, so that you may live, you would be greatly appaled by this, if you indeed are as empathetic as you try to make yourself out to be.

I do too seek better life, and having these 'refugees' here is downgrading the quality of life as it is. And, let's be real, most of those migrants crosed a very large distance, and crosing large distances requires food, some transportation, water, clothing and what not - these all cost money. All of those poor people don't seem to be so poor after you consider the costs it took them to come here. Try getting a mental image of the poor sucker living in the more low end of the society within these countries that these refugees come from and it will become very clear that he has no means to travel such a distance and is more or less forced to stay because he has a family to support or something similiar.

[Anonymous No.7070816]

>>7067216
>No I don't, because Europeans sought to use the countries natural resources and cheap labour to get richer.

Colonialism was bad for everyone except the few rich people directly benefiting from it. It was a financial and resource drain on the states and started a bunch of conflicts that regular people got killed in for no benefit of their own. Only the rich people benefited. And now, to "make up for it", Europe is supposed to take in immigrants who once AGAIN will harm the working class people through increased labor market competitions and almost certainly greater crime in lower income areas? And who once again will benefit the rich in the form of cheaper labor and social fracture that makes a united popular front far less likely?

This twisted logic is at play with a lot of contemporary leftists.

[Anonymous No.7070842]

Itt: pols

[Anonymous No.7070887]

>>7070842
I don't think that you ought to be from /pol/ to realize that it is quite pointless to waste away lots of money to house people which haven't paid a dime for it. Personally, I see this as turning Europe into a charity box for everyone to get a pick off, leaving neither the ones who had it in the first place or the ones that took their share as anyhow better off. Besides, I give exactly no care regarding my ancestors, it's just that I am better than most of the world either due to societal, cultural or genetic factors ( the former two might have something to do with genetics, I simply don't know ), but neither do I flagelate myself over the fact that I am indeed born into the more better segment of the society as whole ( not the best, still ) and I do not intend to see myself fall into a more inconvenient category, although I had nothing to do with where I am now, rather, where I was born and what I was born as. I simply am.

I see it as a matter of convenience. I think it is inconvient to support a large influx of people that are a drain on the economical resources of the Europe, thus I have no support for anything of this in me, or better yet, I have no intentions to delude myself into thinking and seeing the world as some good Samaritan type.

TL;DR
I'm too much of an egoist to give a damn about non-Europeans.

[Anonymous No.7070897]

>>7070887
This post: *tips /pol/cap*

[Anonymous No.7070911]

>>7070897
I don't think you've been to that site, if it were that I was from there, I would have at least several dozen mentions of some Jewish conspirators ( even if they exist, I applaud them for getting where they are, truly, they are of more superior stock of people if they can fool the whole world into the submission, although I view such theories as unlikely ), calls upon some form of morality, such as Christianity, perhaps in a strange, mentally gymnastic way, or some duty to my race or 'Europa' ( which isn't a bad concept, I do think that pan-European state isn't a bad idea as far as it concerns the European, such as the individual only concerns himself ).

Also
>posting on /pol/ when you have /int/
Foolish newfag tbh m8/.

[Anonymous No.7070923]

>>7070911
Int and pol "refugee" threads are the same

[Anonymous No.7070929]

>>7070887
I don't think that you ought to be from /pol/ to realize that it is quite pointless to waste away lots of money to house babies which haven't paid a dime for it. Personally, I see this as turning families into a charity box for everyone to get a pick off, leaving neither the ones who had it in the first place or the ones that took their share as anyhow better off. Besides, I give exactly no care regarding my ancestors, it's just that I am better than most babies either due to societal, cultural or genetic factors ( the former two might have something to do with genetics, I simply don't know ), but neither do I flagelate myself over the fact that I am indeed older ( not the oldest, still ) and I do not intend to see myself fall into a more inconvenient category, although I had nothing to do with where I am now, rather, where I was born and what I was born as. I simply am old.

I see it as a matter of convenience. I think it is inconvient to support a large influx of babies that are a drain on the economical resources of the family, thus I have no support for anything of this in me, or better yet, I have no intentions to delude myself into thinking and seeing families as some good Samaritan type.

TL;DR
I'm too much of an egoist to give a damn about babies.

[Anonymous No.7070940]

>>7070735
borders are a form of apartheid. i don't really think a lot about the constitution of the population of these arbitrary lines.

[Anonymous No.7070941]

>>7070929
bit racist to compare migrants to babies lad

[Anonymous No.7070953]

>>7070941
not really

helpless group vs helpless group

neither had the chance to contribute to "your" society

not all of them will contribute to "your" society

etc.

[Anonymous No.7070970]

>>7070953
you're making a huge stretch and you know it

[Anonymous No.7070986]

>>7070923
You can still keep saying that I am from /pol/, though it seems to have very little to do with the thread at hand.

I was genuinely hoping to see this thead discuss what it was specifically meant to. Can you recommend something thread related?

>>7070929
Well, I do not think having babies is bad from the economical viewpoint. Besides, it's fulfilling, I think, to so some. And, if you think of it, you don't really need to increase the number of the people living in Europe, you just need to maintain a stable population. There really is no need for any more population. You don't need dozen farmhands as in Medieval times, so you don't produce your kin as convenient means of working force.

>>7070953
>babies don't have to chance to contribute to your society
They do, they are yet to be reared up.

Migrants aren't hepless, in fact they are the opposite. Some modern day slave in the sub-Saharan Africa, with no social mobility or chance to move away from the native village of his or her's, unless the master wills, is helpless, mostly, but not the migrant you see crossing into the Europe across the Mediterranean, being dressed in nices clothes, having a smartphone at his hand, or seeking the opportunity to charge it, as it is the case of the refugees that have reached FYROM, recently. As I mentioned earlier, the costs that are required to get you Western Africa/Middle East, the food needed to sustain you whilst you are moving, the transportation costs and all sorts of other expenditures is simply too great for some 'helpless' person to cover in the first place. They aren't helpless, they are more than able. Have some pragmatical consideration before you speak further.

[Anonymous No.7072109]

[Anonymous No.7072379]

>>7066992
Deus Ex predicted it better and less silly.

[Anonymous No.7072393]

>>7067158
>thinks proxy wars never happened before MGS4
I'd say go back to /r/books, but even those plebs may be too sophisticated for you.

[Anonymous No.7072435]

>>7072379
>muh choose the ending the game

>>7072393
>posting on /lit/
>calling people plebs

classic sperg

[Anonymous No.7072640]

>>7066476
>predicting the future
lel, it's going to end in genocide and mass deportations.

shitskins will never control europe.

[Anonymous No.7073437]

>>7072640
soon

[Anonymous No.7075047]

>>7066476
Thing is he predicted people would run from the swarm, not stand there and fucking clap.

[Anonymous No.7075058]

>>7067136
So which part of OP's point do you disagree with?

[Anonymous No.7075070]

>>7066476
>>7066476
Good job replicating the exact same fucking thread from yesterday OP you giant fucking cuck

[Anonymous No.7075092]

>>7075047
Yeah, Raspail didn't really predict shit. Mass immigration had already begun, and he failed to predict the reaction of the European populace (and even his prediction of the overall results wasn't terribly prescient aside from the obvious).

[Anonymous No.7075099]

>>7067223
>I am a Swede

Stop enforcing the "Sweden Yes" cuck meme. You are making the rest of us look bad.

Jimmie 2018.

[Anonymous No.7075102]

reminder that there is literally no way the current refugee crisis won't blow up in leftists faces