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7032546 No.7032546 [Reply] [Original]

What are some good books which will help you get over the fact that you are living in a secular waste land?

>> No.7032553

>>7032546
Das Kapital

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7032573

Or maybe you need a little context to better understand the origins of this secular wasteland.

>> No.7032589

>>7032553
I want to tell you to go back to /pol/, but I know that's what you want. So, without further ado...

*i unsheath a katana with the speed of lightning, the air around me turning into hellish fire*
*harnesses the raw power of the universe to find your exact place on the planet*
*bend time and space itself, and a journey that would require 4 years instead takes half a second*
*appear right in front of your house, and with a mighty slash, the gates and walls of your home dissolve like iron in acid*
*walk up to you, and, as you cower in fear, I shout: "IT'S PERSONNEL NOW!"*
*stab the floor beneath you, and, as an all consuming fire swallows you, turn around, and walk into the night*

>> No.7032592

>>7032546
Zettels Traum

>> No.7032627

i suggest untimely meditations essay #2

https://records.viu.ca/~Johnstoi/nietzsche/history.htm

so you wont waste time with these
>>7032573
>>7032553

(original text:)
http://www.zeno.org/Philosophie/M/Nietzsche,+Friedrich/Unzeitgem%C3%A4%C3%9Fe+Betrachtungen/2.+Vom+Nutzen+und+Nachteil+der+Historie+f%C3%BCr+das+Leben

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>>7032546
DIE SECULARISM DIE

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>>7032627
Why not both?

>>7032589
You feel better now?

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>>7032779
>why not both
marxists dont accept any other reason for discontent than material suffering, social oppression or opposition against "historical necessities". they are partially responsible for the wasteland that op perceives. still, anything non-materialist is for them a latent reactionary excuse. i believe OP wanted to read metaphysical viewpoints and criticisms of the dominant doctrines which contributed to shaping the last hundred years.

>> No.7033047

>>7033042
>that fucking image
absolutely disgusting

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>>7033047
let it sink in brah, just let it happen

>> No.7033063

>>7032546
>secular waste land

Why is this a bad thing? Do you really want to go back to a society where priest and government official are synonyms? I sure as hell don't.

>> No.7033066

the bible

>> No.7033069

>>7033052
>Derrida
>Nietzsche
>Fascism
Not even once

>> No.7033087

White Noise deals with this problem a lot. You might have already read it though.

>> No.7033099

>>7033069
https://youtu.be/jlkKYpnFu5o?t=34s

>> No.7033111

>get over

No, OP, you get even.

>> No.7033117

>>7033042
>still, anything non-materialist is for them a latent reactionary excuse.
So? Marx started out a German idealist. Now we've got Catholics giving the guy a second look. And look at these Green hippies and their back to the Earth mantras. The world will continue to be big enough for dueling philosophical bents in a post-capitalist world. We should just be rational and respectable about it.

The pic isn't very accurate, and I'm not even a serious student of philosophy.

>>7033063
This is why I suggest what I did. We can only turn the page. Subbing in nostalgia wont do any good.

>> No.7033190

>>7033117
>The pic isn't very accurate, and I'm not even a serious student of philosophy.
ok, thx for the input

>Marx started out a German idealist
>Now we've got Catholics giving the guy a second look...
doesnt make "das kapital" and all known branches of marxism any less materialist.

>Subbing in nostalgia wont do any good.
there's more than "back or forward", typical for people thinking in terms of historical necessity.

>> No.7033225

>>7033190
Do you think materialism irrelevant or something?

>there's more than "back or forward"
There is only forward. Looking backward can only help to inform

>> No.7033264

>>7033225
>Do you think materialism irrelevant or something?
why would i think that 50% of philosophy is irrelevant?
the question is why do you think that it and only it should be relevant in this thread.
>This is why I suggest what I did. We can only turn the page.
pretty much admission that you are offtopic on purpose

and you never read nietzsche or something? or is it just faux-naif bullshit?

>> No.7033277

>>7033264
My suggestions aren't off topic.