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7019427 No.7019427[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Aristotle and The Aeneid BTFO

>> No.7019430

>>7019427
Link

>> No.7019439

>>7019430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVxy3N4OfQ

>> No.7019470

>>7019427
what is she even saying
she should learn to speak english

>> No.7019472
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7019472

Why are booktubers so damn cute?

>> No.7019479

>>7019472
Youtube acts as a sorter. Unattractive people on youtube don't get popular, because people like to watch attractive people, so they don't get views and subs, so they're harder to find. The easier somebody is the find, the more likely you are to watch them. Recursive process.

>> No.7019486

>>7019470
>she should learn to speak english

Can you blame her? She's Scottish.

>> No.7019514

>le just like what you like le never challenge yourself or develop a better understanding.
>le literature and reading is not something you can improve at :^) trust me i have never progressed so nobody can le

>> No.7019530

>>7019514
While I agree with your sentiment, this is a literature board and you should post accordingly.

>> No.7019538

>>7019514
Fuck off back to reddit.

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7019570

I can't do it anymore. Why do they all have to act so disgustingly weird and affected? Fuck this and fuck you OP.

>> No.7019585

When it comes to more complex art, it requires more understanding to enjoy it. So when we say that all that matters if whether or not you enjoy something, this leads to people going into more complex art not understanding it- and by extension, not enjoying it. And because they believe that enjoyment is all that matters, they never put forth the effort to understand it even when there's a chance that they would enjoy it far more than more simple art if they just studied it a bit harder. This is the problem I see with saying 'it's all subjective, all that matters is if you like it or not'.

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7019626

Not sure why Dictionopolis isn't your guys' deity yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kTqjkxhbsQ

>> No.7019658

>>7019427
>that accent
trashed

>>7019570
because they're so smart tee hee xD

>> No.7019886

>>7019570
Why does it anger you?

>> No.7019893

shes right about virgil tho

>> No.7019914

>>7019626
>feminist
>purposefully reads for the "diversity"

She deserves to be dumped in the garbage.

>> No.7019938

>>7019479
That's not recursion.

>> No.7020010

I don't usually hate on women but right now it's hard for me to know what it is of her I despise the more: her diction, her fat cheeks, her ugly chin, her crappy name-dropping poem/manifest, her awful skin.

I could live with the accent if her voice wasn't so sickeningly sweet.


Is she auditioning for some Silvia Plath adaptation? Why the fuck does she gesture like that?

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7020064

>>7019626
>(...) And that's what I liked about the book. When you're reading it, it's a pain in the ass. Nothing seems important. A lot of things are intentionally boring (...) but then you step back from that monstrosity of a book and you see how well put together and intentional and meaningful it is, and silly, very silly.

>> No.7020148

>>7020010
She has bad skin because she's from Scotland; we all have bad skin. She's actually fairly good looking.

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7020164

Let's just take a fucking moment to acknowledge that this girl has read the Greeks... and literally every other book that she has enjoyed or read is a burning heap of shit.

If this doesn't permanently invalidate the relevancy of the Greeks, I don't know what will.

>> No.7020185

>>7019427
>I dont like it because it was boring x

People who read or do anything for entertainment are on the same level of chimpanzees.

>> No.7020196

>>7020185
>le ebic "fun is just a buzzword" meme

>> No.7020200

>>7020185
Likewise for people who misuse prepositions.

>> No.7020206

some people like pop music over "real music"
some people like books for entertainment and plot rather than literary merit
some people like imdb over sound and sight movies.

>> No.7020209

Why do you get so mad (or pretend to do so) about quite frankly random youtubers with a couble thousand subscriptions to the point where you need to tell your interent friends on /lit/ about it?

I don't screencap random bullshit opinions on faceook and complain about them on here or on /pol/. Why do you think what that person has to say is of any relevance to anyone here aside from creating just another "modern lib-arts females are stoopid" circlejerk?

>> No.7020235

>>7020209
Because we live in a lower-middle class junk food society where Harry Potter and Wuthering Heights are deemed equal.

>> No.7020251

holy shit Plato was right, literature is just a shitty fucking meme

>> No.7020262

Kind of an extended humblebrag

>> No.7020283

Please tell me what is good about reading literature. Have you ever met a person who you thought was made better by reading literature? Aren't the people on this board, the literature board, just as petty as the people on every other board, and a little bit more pretentious as well?

I've asked this question on this board a few times and nobody has even attempted to give a substantial answer.

>> No.7020295

>>7020164
why would that invalidate the relevancy of the Greeks?

>> No.7020342

>>7020283
>Have you ever met a person who you thought was made better by reading literature?
Dozens of people. Some are close friends and some I've lost touch with. But yeah.
Reading in general is a very apt exercise for introspection. Sometimes reading literary fiction is the means to an end (knowledge, vicarious feeling, sublime poetry, etc.), and sometimes it opens up queries and sets the pace for your own thoughts. It opens up the search for other people's philosophies.
Submitting oneself to this process kind of sets your mind in a clear motion. You learn how to express yourself better. It's just reflection is good for you and keeps a healthy imagination.

Or not. Maybe it's just the opposite. It mostly depends on what was already inside each person, which is why it's not like only reading can make you a cool knowledgeable person, or good, or smart. For example, I used to be even more conceited, pretentious and petulant and scorned others constantly when I was younger, but only did it to people I didn't especially cared for. Reading has changed my views a lot, it's made especially humbler and respectful of other people's minds even if they're not closed to me in any of their ways.
The people on this board are effectively on par of those on their boards, but I get the feeling they often practice the opposite and provide pretty good and honest conversation.

The problem is that there's a lot of shitposting. If one of those so-called patricians from /tv/, those who really haven't read Don Quixote nor Infinite Just, not even C&P, think themselves patrician from their views and exposition to their means of interest (3-hour films)... imagine what happens to a c/lit/... Do you know how long it takes to read a fucking book? They are drilled more often into this elitist loudmouthing crap imo.

>> No.7020351

>>7019479
i think you mean recurrent, not recursive.

>> No.7020363

>>7020342
quality post, dogg, thanks

>> No.7020382

>>7020283
>Aren't the people on this board, the literature board, just as petty as the people on every other board, and a little bit more pretentious as well?

The people on this board don't actually read classical literature. Okay, maybe a small few.

But, yes, the people I know who are genuinely well-read and have a developed taste in literature, art, and film are superior as human beings.

>> No.7020480

>>7020010
>I have no taste in women.

>> No.7020494

>>7020010
check out seancody.com ;p

>> No.7020672

>>7019479
>Three sentences that explain the same thing in the same way
>One nonsense fragment

You suck at posting tbh

>> No.7020737

>>7020148
>She's a 10/10 in Scotland

>> No.7020844

>>7020283
>>7020382

everybody shits

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7021205

>There are people here who think she's ugly

Since when did /lit/ became so gay?

>> No.7021213

That people think she is attractive really shows the age range of this board

< 18

>> No.7021226

>>7021205
She's average. I wouldn't say she's outright hideous. I wouldn't look twice.

>> No.7021233

>>7021226
With her natural hair and not that shitty wannabe blonde she would look better.

>> No.7021238

>>7021213

that doesnt even make sense

>> No.7021239

>>7021205

>people don't like an overweight women which only is appealing cause her voice or unless you're a chub chaser

> XD why u guys so gay???

lmao fuck off my man with your shit tastes.

>> No.7021249

>>7021238

Well I used to think this 6/10 was the hottest thing in hs. You guys are clamoring over the hottest girl in HS

>> No.7021271

>>7021239
>he doesnt like high test

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>>7021249

>> No.7021289

>>7020164
>implying that being a shit reader invalidates worthy reading material

>> No.7021295

>>7021249

thats fantastic anon but i am older that you

>> No.7021401

>>7020480
>female
>cleft chin
>strong jawline
>huge cheeks
>moon face
>probably fat

Nice hair and those god tier eyes do not tip the scale in her favour though.

>> No.7021431

>>7021295

36?

>> No.7021464

lol who reads plato anymore? old white men are boring ;P

>> No.7021486

>>7020206
What the fuck is literary merit anyway?

>> No.7021551

>>7021431

damn you old lol

>> No.7021848

>>7020185
>or do anything for entertainment
>anything
So, people who ever seek out entertainment through literally any means?

>> No.7022587

>>7020206
some people like science over philosophy

>> No.7022598

>>7019570
>This is why I have no gf he he

>> No.7022610

>women
>saying anything worth listening to

You can only choose one.

>> No.7022620

>>7022587
>Some people like eating cooked steak while it's raw
Lol wtf is wrong with people?
Science/philosophy beef is pure ignorant tribalism.
There is no argument or disagreement between these disciplines.
You might as well post "MetAl muZicc ROolZ and Rap SUcKs!".

>> No.7022625

>>7022620
>go to university
>have ethnic feminist science teacher with background in neuro
>mention I enjoy PoC figures like John Searle or Dennett and Chalmers for entertainment factor
>"this student is threatening me and making innappropriate advances!"
Uhhhhh sure.
Best advice I can give to anyone; don't go to college.
The people there are literally high functioning autistic.
High level specialised skill, and zero percent general intelligence and empathy.

>> No.7023604

>>7022625
why are you crossposting this?

>> No.7023777

>>7020064
I'm just imagining bloom starting a channel and doing bookhauls, wrapups and unboxings. all YA. and really likeing them and ating like these youtubers.

>> No.7024523

>>7020185
You must be so fun to hang out with

Ah almost forgot, you don't hang out with anyone at all

>> No.7024541

>>7020283
Way more pretentious. This board is fucking cancerous, can't browse it for more than half an hour before I have to stop.

Sure sucks being an average bookworm on 4chan

>> No.7024611

>>7020283
I just like reading books and talking about books with people who like reading books

of course 4chan is full of pretentious shitposting but I'd rather that than a circlejerking cottonwooled hugbox like reddit or tumblr

>> No.7024760

>>7020185
Literally everything it do is motivated by whether or not it makes us feel good in some way.
So... all humans are on the same level as chimpanzees then.

>> No.7025426

>>7019439
>that accent
It makes me so sad even my penis cries.

>> No.7025454

>>7019439
>aristotle prose

shes def retarded

>> No.7025558

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqwQz8Aoc34&feature=youtu.be&t=2m07s

for people who think this bitch is hot..

>> No.7025601

>>7025558
A couple of blemishes don't make her ugly also her personality seems great.

>> No.7025603

I don't get it, why does this upset you guys? Some people don't like Aristotle, big woop. She likes Homer and Shakespeare and other shit though, so it's not all bad. Is it because she's a woman? These threads are /r9k/-lite at this point.

>> No.7025604

>>7025558
If she got some accutane and lost some weight she'd be a 7/10

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>>7020206
>literary merit
I bet you claim to enjoy Bach on an "intellectual level." You're a fucking liar. I don't care what kind of self-referential emergent fractal genius Bach has, that all adds up to the pleasing sounds. Unless you have literal autism, you don't enjoy music for its' mathematical qualities any more than you enjoy literature for its' "literary merit."

>> No.7025626

>>7025621
>that all adds up to the pleasing sounds
does it? brandenburg concertos is probably the most boring baroque shit i've ever heard

>> No.7025632

>>7025621
>projecting

>> No.7025638

>>7025632
>no response

>> No.7025651

>>7025638
That was my first post in this thread. There's nothing to respond to. You didn't say anything but an opinion based on personal ideas.

>> No.7025665

>>7025651
>You didn't say anything but an opinion based on personal ideas.
Well no fucking shit Detective McGee, really glad you cracked the case

>> No.7025684

>>7025665
So why are you complaining about my pointing out that you're projecting when you just admitted you're projecting? Are you handicapped?

>> No.7025700

>>7025684
You don't even know what projecting means, do you?

>> No.7025703

>>7020235
Yeah, Harry Potter is much better tbh

>> No.7025819

>>7025621
>you don't enjoy music for its' mathematical qualities
everyone enjoys music for its mathematical qualities. what do you think rhythm is? melody? harmony?

>> No.7025824

>>7025819
What I'm saying is that the mathematical qualities are only relevant in how much they contribute to the factors you listed, and no one enjoys Bach for the 'pure maths.'

>> No.7025921

>>7025621
>>7020206
Reading about these "I read for the prose", "I listen to music for the maths", etc. has made wonder how do people actually enjoy and perceive things.

Are those expressions just some lazy ass summary of your main interest in the subject?
Or do you actually have a single linear way for interpreting and enjoying an artistic work?

>> No.7025975

>>7025921
>Are those expressions just some lazy ass summary of your main interest in the subject?
That is usually the case.
That or just parroting it for the sake of memery and fitting in/sounding special.

>> No.7026879

>>7025621
projection is out of this world fam

>> No.7026887

>>7026879
You don't know what projection means, 'fam.'

>> No.7027000

>>7019472
Name?

>> No.7027465

is it so fucking hard to remember what you want to say that you have to cut the video after every, EVERY, sentence? why do all booktubers do this? it's just annoying as fuck

>> No.7027497

>>7019626
She seems more interesting than the majority I've seen tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfcSNudqbGc

>> No.7027583

>>7027000
Ashley Riordan

https://www.youtube.com/user/climbthestacks

>> No.7027626

>>7027465
Do you really want, two minutes of

>umm.. uh.. wait, uhmm.

>> No.7027628

>>7025454
She clearly has no grasp of the philosophical Logos, sure Aristotle writes (that is if you interpret of what we have of Aristotle's works as not lectures composed by his students) shit but all the philosophy clearly flew over her head.

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>>7021205
>Since when did /lit/ became so gay

Since they started with the Greeks

>> No.7028321

>>7025621
Just because you cannot comprehend what he's writing as you hear it doesn't mean others can't :^)

>> No.7028483

>>7019626
>>7019472
Checked out those 2 and they get my approval

Also recommenced:
>Unleash this book reviews
>Better Than Food Book Reviews
>Choncey Boddington

Also there was this anon who'd post on here who's referred to as 'Oxford Girl' who had a pretty decent channel, just can remember the name (I know you're reading this).

>> No.7028578

>i like this, i don't like this
>cut
>i like this, i don't like this
>repeat 20 times

listening to this is fucking agony. can she form a meaningful thought??

>> No.7028659

>>7028483
ReadingBukowski is pretty good too.

>> No.7028731

>>7028483
Oxford Girls is BooksAndShit.

>> No.7028804

>>7019486
No she speaks posh obviously.

>> No.7028821

>>7019585
Well, you still gotta enjoy seeking understanding up to a certain point.

>> No.7028833

>>7020342
Well written