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What do we gain from reading fiction?

>> No.7014816

depends what path you take bruttha

>> No.7014825

why was cioran such a whiny little bitch

>> No.7014835

Entertainment.
Anyone says otherwise is a wanker.

>> No.7014869

>>7014825
despair

>> No.7014898

>>7014835
What about fiction like 1984 and Animal Farm which many have considered as warnings to the direction society has taken? There's plenty of fiction out there that's considered "important."

>> No.7014914

>>7014835
> reading solely for the plot

Looking forward to Mockingjay Part 2?

>> No.7014920

memes, sometimes dank.

>> No.7014934

>>7014914
are you not entertained by prose?

Can you be any more pleb?

>> No.7014935

Vicarious experience.

>> No.7014941

Best Cioran?

>> No.7014943

>>7014934
Would you read a book about manure if the prose was perfect?

>> No.7014944

>>7014941
I'm paranoid looking over my back
There's a whirlwind inside of my head
I can't stop what I'm hearing within
The face inside is right beneath my skin

>> No.7014946

>>7014934
Are you not educated by historical context, development of vocabulary and commentary found in fiction?

Can you be any more pleb?

>> No.7014947

>>7014944
you will not fool me

>> No.7014954

>>7014943
yes, why not?

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>>7014960
How do you know?

>> No.7014964

>>7014835
why teach novels in school, college and uni if the only purpose of it is for entertainment, anon?

no offence, anon, but i don't think you really know what you're talking about.

>> No.7014967

>>7014914
Themes and depth and philosophy is just as much entertainment as plot. All of it essentially amounts to people trying to substantiate themselves. You're all reading to keep yourselves entertained by life.
That's the only reason you read or consume any art. For some reason being "entertained" bothers you people.

>> No.7014994

Escapism

>> No.7014997

>>7014967
edgar's a faggot name

>> No.7015015

nothing really other than muh intellectual superiority. fiction is an enjoyable waste of time. same thing as wasting time watching movies or tv.

>> No.7015038 [DELETED] 

Good boy points

>> No.7015050

>>7015015
Why 'Waste of time'? What could one do, to not waste time?

>> No.7015059

Well, I'm able to absolutely rek any tests that require reading comprehension such as those verbal exams employers/universities force you to take.

>> No.7015061 [DELETED] 

>>7014806
>we

>> No.7015064

>>7014967
What about what >>7014946 says

You could maybe argue education is entertaining to an extent, but I think, depending on the novel, there's potential educational merit.

>> No.7015112

>>7014806
Fiction gives the reader a chance to view hypothetical situations and explore ideas that typically can't be conveyed in a non-fiction in the way the author may intend.

It is way more practical for an author to create his own world and his own characters to depict his intended beauty and ideas.

>> No.7015127

Girlfriends :)

>> No.7015146

>>7015127
Bitches love Ulysses

>> No.7015313

>>7014806
"At any rate I can say that I've read a lot in my life, precisely because I was a man without an occupation. What the French call an idler, someone who doesn't work. But in return I read. So I consider that I've done my duty all the same. But I read also in order not to think, to escape. To not be me. And too, I've always tried to find the defects in others, the flaws."'
- E.M. Cioran

>> No.7015397

>>7015313
How Cioran didn't commit suicide is a mystery to me.

>> No.7015417

>>7014806
It doesn't matter

>> No.7015438

>>7015050
raise a family and help those in need

>> No.7015440

>>7015397
“It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late.”

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>>7014806

> read Philip K. Dicks' "Honour Harrington" series
> that Navy space shit is awesome
> want to join space Navy
> no space Navy
> fuck I'll just join regular wet Navy
> apply for Officer enlistment
> 1 year later
> basic training - smashing through the course
> finish my snotty cruise
> posted to frigate
> chronic seasickness
> join Special Forces team (clearance diving) as support
> time of my life
> Navy doesn't want me anymore - no room for Officers who can't go to sea
> leave the Navy

Fiction inspires and motivates. If it wasn't for Philip K. Dick I would have never joined the Navy and had the experiences I've had. I'm really into crime fiction/cyberpunk at the moment so I've decided to join the Federal Police.

Fiction creates reality.

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>>7015397
He used the contemplation of suicide as a coping mechanism.

>> No.7015574

>>7014806
It's fun, you can expand your vocabulary and you can gain new perspectives. I mostly read fiction because it's fun though.

>> No.7015589

>>7014806
beware, from reading you could gain a lot of pain.

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>>7014806
whatever we are capable of taking away.

>> No.7015748

>>7014806
I think a more interesting question is what do we gain from non-fiction that we don't read for practical reasons? I'm not a historian or a scientist but I read history books and science books all the time. I don't do it because I want to be knowledgeable about any subjects, I just really enjoy that stuff.

When I think about it, I guess I read those books for the same reasons I read fiction. It's fun and escapism (some wouldn't call scientific texts "escapism" but to me it is because they take me away from my immediate life).

>> No.7016184

>>7015397
>>7015563
>I live only because it is in my power to die whenever I want; without the idea of suicide I would have killed myself long time ago.

what a guy

>> No.7016190

>>7014806
Fiction can be a metaphor for the real world. You have no idea with how many things you can get away by doing it that way.

>> No.7016196
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>>7014806
Literary fiction makes a case for seeing the world through a certain lens, the way criticism views fiction through a particular lens. Plugging in to a work of fiction is a form of hyper-empathy with the author and other readers.

>> No.7016828

>>7016184
the saddest guy ever

>> No.7016852

Good fiction developes empathy and makes the reader feel less lonely. At least that's what it does for me.

>> No.7016864

>>7016852
I feel depressed if I'm not mid-book

>> No.7017225

>>7014825

Lack of courage

>> No.7017268

time killed? something to think about while eating alone?

>> No.7017284

Categorically speaking, entertainment and a medium to socialize on and with.

>> No.7017285

>>7014898
Only extremely impressionable people take these 'warnings' seriously. Yes, 1984 and Animal Farm are satire, but in no way are they a 'warning'. They're simplistic critiques of the real world through the use of reductio ad absurdum.

I am now saging the thread.

>> No.7017850

most things are like puzzles.

>> No.7017923

>>7016828
He was actually a very funny man

>> No.7017947

A method to deny reality.

>> No.7017953

>>7017947
Or a method to engage with it.

>> No.7019044

>>7017225
No, an excess of it.

>> No.7019072

>>7014943
I hate the fact that my answer to this is 'yes'.

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>>7015438

you make it sound like that's a 24/7 kind of deal.

>> No.7019110

>>7014806
Empathy
Alternate POVs
Companionship
Expanded vocabulary

>> No.7019148

>>7014967
>>7014835
this. faggots cant come to grips with nihilism but we're all just distracting ourselves until death, especially with philosophy..

>> No.7019166

>>7015438
Lots of other people are raising families though, one extra won't make a difference.

>> No.7019205

>>7014816
surprisingly correct

if you're trying to become a physicist, social theorist, actor, mechanic, hell even a philos0pher, there aren't many *direct* benefits to be gained from reading. however, if you want to be a novelist, bill belichick out as many of the greats as possible

>> No.7019235

>>7014806
See:
>>7017850
>>7016852

Good fiction places you inside someone else's head, exercises your analogous though capacity, engages you to cmplexity, boosts your general reading/comprehension skills, teaches you about efficiency in language (the basic principles of which can be transferred to any discipline, and gives you a great sense of the experience of different times and places.

>> No.7019460

>>7014806
when not reading fiction, what are you reading?
Biographies and history?

I've been wondering what strict non-fiction readers actually read.

>> No.7020547

>improved critical thinking
>better vocabulary
>improved writing
>cultural enrichment
>improved memory

>> No.7020610

>>7014806
so we can look down on others

>> No.7020622

>reading fiction
>we
AIDS

>> No.7020651

Perspective and understanding.

>> No.7021077

Fiction can be used to convey ideas just as well as non-fiction

>> No.7021596

>>7019166
my man. Too many people on this damn Earth.

>> No.7021603

>>7014806
That sweet pussy cream.

>> No.7022046

I imagine much of the same stuff we gain from using our own imagination. It might not be reality, but it can prepare us for reality.

>> No.7022664

>>7015438
>raiser a family
>help those in need
Completely contradictory behaviours.

>> No.7022892

>>7019148
I like you.

>> No.7022968

>>7015624
True! You get out what you put in.

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7023019

Empathy, niggers

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>>7014806

"Read day and night, devour books—these sleeping pills—not to know but to forget! Through books you can retrace your way back to the origins of spleen, discarding history and its illusions." - E.M. Cioran

>> No.7023355

>>7014806
A bigger dick.

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>>7017923
I wish people could see how much of a comedian Emmy was.

>> No.7023836

The ability to meme hard on /lit/.

>> No.7023854

>>7014806
Empathy is one thing gained from reading fiction, if you're capable of it and not a sociopath/psychopath.

>> No.7023912

>>7014806
To impress females to get laid nigga :^)
t. neo-/lit/

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>>7019148
>Everything is abstraction, even abstraction itself!

>> No.7024026

>>7015112
Samefag.

Anybody? I thought I nailed it.

>> No.7024033

Updike's 'Fiction: A Dialogue' may help towards your question OP

>> No.7024059

>>7024033
It's a short piece about a conversation between a writer/critic and an emissary from mars, discussing the value/function of fiction

>> No.7024075

>>7019148
anime villain pls go

>> No.7024668

>>7015561

Are you fucking stupid? PKD didn't write that series.

>> No.7026173

>>7014806
Insight