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7014628 No.7014628 [Reply] [Original]

This book wasn't as bad as they say.
Why the hate /lit/?

>> No.7014632

because it's mandatory high school lit in america

>> No.7014634

>>7014628
le read it in high school maymay xd

>> No.7014636

>>7014632
this

Since I'm not from Americanistan, I really liked it.

>> No.7014644

I read this out of personal interest a while ago, never been required reading in my country. Solid book, most people only hate it because their teachers shoved it down their throats. Same reason why a lot of people hate Shakespeare.

>> No.7014650

i liked it up until that fucking shitty dues ex machina ass pull at the end.

other than that i enjoyed it.

>> No.7014652

>>7014632
>>7014634
>>7014636
>>7014644
I see. I'm not american so I didn't even know they have to read it there. Seems like a rather weird choice for highschools tbh.

>> No.7014654

>>7014650
>criticizing storytelling elements
Anon that's just silly. Can't you see how the ending was importent for the overall message?

>> No.7014661

>>7014654
that there is hope in despair and madness if you just wait long enough to be saved by a miracle?

>> No.7014673

>>7014661
No, not that.
Golding meets them up with the british solider to create the bold contrast between what the kids have became to him, and the general standard of civilized life.
The fact he's a solider though, who picks them up on a war ship, is used to make the book's final statement: The wild lust for blood is rooted deep down in humans, and controls them no matter how far they try to push him away from them.

>> No.7014678

>>7014661
Something bout absence of authority and the inherent savageness within humans.

>> No.7014680

>>7014673
>soldier/savage similarity
aw shieet, didn't even think of that

>> No.7014685

>>7014680
I know the book isn't mind-blowing but it's far from bad.

>> No.7014705

>>7014673
hmm. that is a solid interpretation.

>> No.7014709

>>7014685
no, that actually wasn't sarcasm, I always viewed it as a dichotomy between anarchist bloodshed and authoritarian civilisation, never thought of the similarity

>> No.7014714

>>7014673
so how would you interpret it differently if the kid at the end wasn't saved and was brutally killed, yet the ship still comes at the end but only after some time has passed after his death?
that seems more realistic, but can still deliver the message that you said, no?

>> No.7014723

>>7014652
In my high school we never had to read a book from the last century. It was like a testament to the literature we read, that it had passed the test of time.

>> No.7014733

>>7014709
>implies that anarchism ultimately leads to savage bloodshed

For shame anon.

>> No.7014812

>>7014705
Thanks!

>>7014709
Oh, I see. Well, obviously your interpretation might be right too, though I think the similarity is more likely to be what Golding meant to show.

>>7014714
I guess it could happen like this and still carry a similar message. It would have made the ending less powerful though, in my opinion. If Ralph was dead the savages would have been alot less violent, and pretty much only hunt pigs. What Golding does in this chapter is creating a very bold distinction between the solider and the kids, and then destroy it by pointing the irony in the distinction - how both the kids and the soliders are controlled by the same thrust even if they appear to be so different.
The distinction created would have been much less powerful if it wasn't cutting a very wild hunt in it's absolute climax, while everything is burning both literally and metaphorically. It's all about giving the final message alot of power.