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>God is dead
What did he mean by this?

>> No.7003636

People in 19th century Germany no longer believed the traditional Christian propositions they professed. God can't literally die, if He exists, because if He exists then He exists necessarily.

>> No.7003643

>>7003629
End of metaphysics

>> No.7003675

It's sort of a convenient slogan for his entire philosophy. You can trace almost everything Nietzsche said back to "god is dead" in some way:

1. The decline of religion has left a void in our souls.

2. The coming of nihilism.

3. The need for man to aspire to god-like status.

4. The decline of "moral certainties."

5. The urgent need to establish some kind of secular god (ubermensch).

>> No.7003678

The training wheels have come off

>> No.7003689

He means that the Christian God is no longer what guides people to do this or that and so he proceeds in talking of all of the substitutes for God and his own thought on what we can do in this scenario.

God is one of the many metaphysical excuses, that which commands and looks over you, that protects you and guides you. Nietzsche knew how easy it was to be guided, if not for God, for something else.

It's not a "God does not exist" quote as some atheists put it, even though that doesn't mean to say Nietzsche believed in God. If God is dead is only because he was alive. But here, again, to be alive is to exert one's power and if you believe in God and follows his way, that's it.

>> No.7003691

>>7003629

he wanted to end the argument. If christains can make god exist by simply believing, he proves he can make god un-exist through denial. He saw belief in god stunted the creative prowess of others, and this disgusts him

>> No.7003693

>>7003689
>>7003675
this is true. It doesn't literally mean god is dead it's the concept of God that died. The belief that someone is watching over you and giving you moral obligation to do something.

of course it's all hypothesizing too in some degree, as >>7003691 has shown there are different interpretations

>> No.7003701

All of the above are correct.

>>7003678
I like this one.

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>>7003629
literaly this

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7003885

Whatever God once stood for, he now stands for the opposite

>> No.7003936

>>7003629
This proposition (among many others by Nietzsche) is brilliantly detailed in the whole of the arguments by Icycalm at http://orgyofthewill.net/, which will set you straight on Nietzsche's enigmatic statement (among many other things).

>> No.7003950

>>7003936
I wholeheartedly endorse this excellent and enlightening website, with which I am in no way affiliated. Icycalm, that is to say, Alex Kierkegaard the Great, is simply such a brilliant writer that one feels one has no choice but to give in and kneel at his words. Seriously and without exaggeration, Orgy of the Will has changed my life.

>> No.7003970

>>7003629

The highest values have begun to devalue themselves.

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>>7003885
You got the wrong picture, AZ.

>> No.7004631

>>7003885
I'd tittyfuck it tbh

>> No.7004643

>>7003643
do you mean traditional metaphysics? cuz N really liked metaphysical stuff but he called it art. (source: Birth of Tragedy)

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>>7003950
>being this much of a dickriding bitch nigga

>> No.7004734

>>7004631
>beard hair on your cock

no thanks fam