/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7001510]

What's the best moral/philosophical literature on abortion?

I don't mean partisan politics shit. I mean dispassionate discussions by actual philosophers. I don't have any ideological preconceptions, so it can be literature from either side of the "debate."

[Anonymous No.7001586]

>>7001510
Catecism of the Catholic Church

[Anonymous No.7001609]

>21st century
>Americans are STILL arguing about abortion

Fucking lel.

[Anonymous No.7001618]

Peter Singer.

Legalize postpartum abortion

[Anonymous No.7001632]

we already have a thread going with this image

also no discussion is 'dispassionate' dipshit

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.7001636]

>>7001510
What's that picture trying to say?
Straight men rape far more than transgendered males.

[Anonymous No.7001637]

>>7001618

[Anonymous No.7001666]

>>7001636
woah, please don't add imaginary qualities to individuals who prefer a certain sexual practice

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.7001687]

>>7001666
I'm not even saying a majority of straight men prefer forced copulation with unwilling partners.
Satin

[Anonymous No.7001696]

>>7001636
>>7001687
What kind of fucked up retardation is this?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.7001712]

>>7001696
I'm poking fun at the damn picture in the OP
The character isn't the one pregnant. See?

Seriously though, if the anti-abortion crowd would just work to make it unnecessary, you'd bring those abortion rates way down and make the world a better place for the children that are brought into it.

[Anonymous No.7002949]

>>7001510
>dio_brando_considers_reforming_himself.jpg

[Anonymous No.7002988]

>>7001510
Aquinas had some stuff to say that wasn't wholly pants-on-head retarded. It was thoroughly rooted in a Christian understanding, however, so if that's not your thing then someone else would be better.

[Anonymous No.7002995]

>>7001637
nice image do you mind if i save it?

captcha: select all images with bananas

[Anonymous No.7002999]

>>7002988
Aquinas talked about abortion?
Source please
Since you know so much, where does he talk 'bout people who had sex with demonsa nd stuff?

[Anonymous No.7003015]

The only issue I have with abortion is how people try to sanitize what it is. This isn't a question of debate, if you get an abortion, you are necessarily and absolutely killing your child. If you personally step in the way of the process of the child becoming fully formed and being born, you are actively ending it's life.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal, but women shouldn't try to sugar coat the reality of the situation.

[Anonymous No.7003020]

>>7001712
>Seriously though, if the anti-abortion crowd would just work to make it unnecessary, you'd bring those abortion rates way down and make the world a better place for the children that are brought into it.
nice platitude

[Anonymous No.7003021]

>>7002995

killing babies is wrong

[Anonymous No.7003029]

>>7003021
i hit a baby squirrel today w my car

[Anonymous No.7003355]

>>7003029
enjoy hell, sodomite

[Anonymous No.7003367]

>>7001510
David Oderberg Moral Theory and Applied Ethics

[Anonymous No.7003413]

Objectively speaking there is nothing wrong with killing babies, Governments do it all the time in wars.

Unless you want to talk about moral sentiments , then this discussion is pointless. Since we are solely discussing about "the potential for human life" and not human life itself, in which case retarded ethics entering the picture are little more than feel-good bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7004128]

The good book, my man.

[Anonymous No.7004137]

>>7003413
>Governments do it all the time in wars
>Therefore it is right
And Israel is the USA's greatest ally, right?

[Anonymous No.7004513]

When will the far right traditionalist meme fucking die?

[AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA No.7004523]

>>7004513
When will you Marxist faggots fucking die?

[Anonymous No.7004534]

I think the ancient Germanics had the right idea
Don't abort it, carry it to term and then carry it out and let it die in the cold.

[Anonymous No.7004551]

>>7003015
a fetus isn't a child

[AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA No.7004560]

>>7004551
Nah, it's just an unborn child

[Anonymous No.7004592]

>>7004560
lol fag

[Anonymous No.7004902]

>>7002988
Christians apologists are by necessity pants-on-head retarded.

[Anonymous No.7005027]

>>7004534
>Don't abort it, carry it to term and then carry it out and let it die in the cold.
but it clashes with the principle of life of the classical liberals

and it clashes now with the hedonism of the liberals [aka women]


Abortion is good since it releases women from being responsible [so less pain] and can quickly go back to sleeping around [so more pleasures for them]

wider women market = more competition between women = more pleasures for men accessing this market

[Anonymous No.7005084]

David Benatar argues for a pro-death view on abortion among other things in Better Never To Have Been.
http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/David_Benatar_-_Better_Never_to_Have_Been.pdf

Chapter 5, page 132->

[Anonymous No.7005297]

>>7004137
>No argument as to why it's actually wrong

Lel look how clever you are inserting your heroic white power rhetoric in an ethical discussion where it's completely irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.7005309]

if you're really going into the philosophy of that stuff the only decision about killing thigs that makes sense is you can kill and do whatever you want.
saying you cant kill any life is fucking stupid becauae it basically says you cant interact with anything around you. what about bacteria or virus. also you'd have to define life, what is just as hard
making an arbitrary line that says: you can kill this life, but not that life as it is intelligent or conplex enough is also pointless because drawing that line will be really fucking hard.
so you just gotta accept that you can kill anything but have to deal with the consequences

[Anonymous No.7005884]

>>7005309
>so you just gotta accept that you can kill anything but have to deal with the consequences
women do not want to deal with consequences

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.7006116]

>>7003020
Why do you think it's a platitude? Why wouldn't turning the world into a nicer safer place be a *noble* goal?
The preferred alternatives of the anti-abortionists is to make it illegal, protest, shame, push crazy people into murdering practitioners. This makes the world that much more a shittier place.

[Anonymous No.7006502]

ok

[Anonymous No.7006516]

>>7006116
>The preferred alternatives of the anti-abortionists is to make it illegal, protest, shame, push crazy people into murdering practitioners. This makes the world that much more a shittier place.
to present them as you did is precisely ''making the world that much more a shittier place.''

but is is expected from liberals

[Anonymous No.7006536]

>Abortion is clearly murder, for it is written that the soul enters the body upon conception!

[Anonymous No.7006594]

>>7001510
Not moral/philosophical, but every American should read "Crazy For God" by Frank Schaeffer. He was the son of Francis Schaeffer, an extremely influential figure in American evangelical Christianity that pretty much made it the political force it is today. Frank is still a Christian but rejected Republican Jeezus Christianity after writing books and directing movies that pretty much created that sort of religion. His biggest regret is pushing anti-abortion activism with the movie "Whatever Happened to the Human Race".

He think abortion is an abomination personally but thinks there are good reasons for it to remain legal to some degree.

[Anonymous No.7006644]

>>7005027
What about women who were raped? Or condoms that broke?

[Anonymous No.7006685]

>>7001712
I do believe that is supposed to be a woman.