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What is logic good for?

>> No.6991768

Absolutely nuthin

>> No.6991771

finding beliefs that will turn out true

>> No.6991779

Analysis of the material, and by that I even mean things like light and sound because they themselves are distortions and movements in the material field. So yeah it's pretty fucking important considering we are concrete, material beings.

>> No.6991794

>>6991779
How does logic allow us to analyze this vaguely defined material?

>> No.6991829

>>6991762
It has a ton of professional applications if you work in anything even related to philosophy, computer science, linguistics, mathematics, etc.

As for a layperson, I don't know. There is is probably most useful for learning to spot, avoid and refute fallacies.

>> No.6991842

prove that logic is reliable without using logic

>> No.6991871

>>6991794
By using recognizable patterns to measure and observe things we interact with.

The things we can interact with are material, or natural. The things we can't are thus, supernatural.

>> No.6991881

It's good for disregarding faulty assumptions, i.e. not saying and thinking stupid things.

e.g. "Vaccines cause autism!" (see: causation vs. correlation)

I have had people in the gym tell me that what allows you do bench press more weight is by making loud grunting noises. If I am thinking correctly, they are confusing a cause and an effect.

Loud grunting noises are an effect of weight training (or exerting any physical effort), not a cause. If such were the case, the person who grunts the loudest or feels he's exerting the most effort would lift the heaviest weights. But effort is, of course, different for each person depending on their current strength training level.

>> No.6991892

>>6991768
Wooh! Say it again!

>> No.6991964

Logic is very good for trying, and failing, to convince people that you're right.

When you crack out the logic, you'll usually be subjected to a barrage of sophistry and indignant bluster, after which your opponent withdraws, convinced that they've categorically destroyed your argument, and that the debate is over.

This is why, when debating in person, I'd rather arm myself with a good stout cudgel, than any pedigree of logic.

Fraknly, half the arguments I have on /lit/ would have been over much sooner that way, and would have reached a more personally satisfying conclusion.

>> No.6992010

>>6991871
That doesn't sound like logic as I understand it. Logic is the science of correct reasoning. It has practically nothing to do with making material claims.

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>>6991762
to become free, not experiencing the world as alien

>> No.6992256

>>6991762
war

>> No.6992283

>>6991762
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

>> No.6992356

>>6991768
>Absolute
Was this a Hegel joke veiled in a referemce to a Seinfeld reference to a song?

>> No.6992804

>>6991762
Eggman appreciation thread?

>> No.6992816

>>6991964
>Cudgel makes right.

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>> No.6992830

>>6992804
Georegg W.F Eggel

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>> No.6993398

>>6991762
What is shitposting good for?

>> No.6993409

>>6993398
To release you from the crushing weight of nihilism for some brief moment

>> No.6993501

As long as time moves forward it is the mechanism of judgment.

>> No.6994164

>>6992356
woah....

what kind of humor would that be

>> No.6994171

>>6991762
Computers.

>> No.6994599

>>6991762

Having clear and rigorous thoughts.

>> No.6994629

FUCKING DEJA VU

>> No.6994639

>>6991842
MIND BLOWN
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>> No.6994685

>>6991842
Intuitively I'd reach for the dictionary.

log·ic
ˈläjik/ noun:

1.
reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
"experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"
synonyms:reasoning, line of reasoning, rationale, argument, argumentation
"the logic of their argument"
a particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference.
"Aristotelian logic"
the systematic use of symbolic and mathematical techniques to determine the forms of valid deductive argument.
plural noun: logics
the quality of being justifiable by reason.
"there's no logic in telling her not to hit people when that's what you're doing"
synonyms:reason, judgment, logical thought, rationality, wisdom, sense, good sense, common sense, sanity; informalhorse sense
"this case appears to defy all logic"
the course of action or line of reasoning suggested or made necessary by.
"if the logic of capital is allowed to determine events"
2.
a system or set of principles underlying the arrangements of elements in a computer or electronic device so as to perform a specified task.
logical operations collectively.