/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6990167]

>tfw you've read to many books on great leaders
>tfw life starts to look unimportant compared to accomplishments of Napoleon, Caesar, Charlemagne, Alexander, Wellington, Nelson etc.

Why even bother? Is today's world just without a sense of adventure or fulfillment because of technology or what?

[Anonymous No.6990172]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRUnoGmwNCA
That's what vidya is for.

[Anonymous No.6990176]

Also, Napoleon is quoted as saying 'I Have Never Known 6 Happy Days in My Life'

[Anonymous No.6990183]

War has been sublimated into avenues such as sports, work, and academia.

[Anonymous No.6990198]

>>6990172
I can't get into video games anymore sadly. Used to love them growing up.

>>6990176
Such is life when you have essentially all of Europe allying to defeat you.

>>6990183
Which is good and bad I suppose. But with those advancements war became more brutal and violent, losing a lot of the heroism that it had before.

[Anonymous No.6990202]

>>6990167
>read about Alexander
>keep reading about Alexander
>read some more about Alexander
>mfw

>>6990176
>In 1816 in St. Helena, Napoleon was talking to the Count de Las Cases, one of his exile’s fellows, about Britain’s policies and his marriage with Marie-Louise.
>Suddenly, without seeming to remember that Las Cases was still there, he fell silent, “his head resting on one of his hands.” After a moment he rose and said “My life, what a novel!”
Maybe not happy in the conventional sense of the word, but the man became fucking emperor over half of Europe. His life is absolutely extraordinary.

[Anonymous No.6990212]

>>6990202

[Anonymous No.6990213]

Sadly, the age of heroes has ended.

[Anonymous No.6990220]

>>6990167

I suffer for the same thoughts. I study at a top 3 university. But after every paper or research I conduct, I always reflect on how insignificant it all is compared to geniuses like Einstein, Schrodinger, Planck, etc. Makes me feel like an ant on an anthill, thinking he can rule the world.

[Anonymous No.6990223]

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[Anonymous No.6990232]

>>6990167
what books did you read?

[Anonymous No.6990238]

>>6990213
I guess I'll just have to stick to their tales then. I forgot how much I missed reading biographies.
>>6990220
I was top 10 here, doing business now. It really is all meaningless.
>>6990223
Thank you for posting this. Do you know who the person on the right is with the bow? Looks Mongolian or Chinese based on his riding style also.

[Anonymous No.6990250]

>>6990238
Tartar auxiliary of the Russian empire.

Not sure what tribe though.

[Anonymous No.6990252]

>>6990232
I just finished Napoleon: A Life by Andrew Roberts. I'd highly recommend it. Read a good amount on Lee this year as well.

Moving on to The Sorrows of Young Werther, and after that will be The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Gibbon.

[Anonymous No.6990253]

>Why even bother? Is today's world just without a sense of adventure or fulfillment because of technology or what?

Why do you think ISIS gets tens of thousands of foreign volunteers?

[Anonymous No.6990260]

>>6990212
>ywn be Alexander or part of his companion cavalry
>ywn be fucking undefeated in combat
>tfw there's an alternate universe where Alexander survived and went on with his conquest of Arabia
How Great is it also that his body on the mosaic is preserved but virtually all the cavalry around him is lost.

>>6990252
Didn't Roberts write a new one, Napoleon The Great? Or is that just an updated version of A Life?

[Anonymous No.6990263]

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[Anonymous No.6990266]

>>6990253
Don't forget the people going off to fight ISIS too.

[Anonymous No.6990267]

>>6990253
And they're religious savages, they tend to have a pretty solid base of disenfranchised extremists.

[Anonymous No.6990275]

>>6990213
Only a tragedy that encompasses all human lives could save us

[Anonymous No.6990277]

>>6990260
We never will know these feels.

Napoleon A Life is the American title I believe. The Great might be the UK/EU title. Ironic.

>>6990263
Stop you're about to make me tear up.

[Anonymous No.6990303]

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[Anonymous No.6990310]

>>6990167
Then read War & Peace by Tolstoy. The whole book is a critique against the great man theory.

[Anonymous No.6990317]

>>6990310
>Hating on Alte Fritz

[Anonymous No.6990331]

>>6990317
I'm hating on Napoleon.

[Anonymous No.6990332]

>>6990303
You'll never get to take part in the last great Calvary charge under Ney

[Anonymous No.6990334]

>>6990332
>last great cavalry charge
>fagpoleon

[Anonymous No.6990340]

>>6990334
>>fagpoleon
shitpost opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.6990358]

>>6990317
Is this how they light the place up back then? That shit is so dim I'd be depressed as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6990363]

>>6990332
>>6990334
We still got tanks.


>>6990358
No they wore fluorescent sneakers and LED lights.

[Anonymous No.6990371]

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[Anonymous No.6990382]

>>6990358
>Is this how they light the place up back then? That shit is so dim I'd be depressed as fuck.
It was probably more conducive to good sleep. Body-clock and all that.

[Anonymous No.6990392]

>>6990334
The Poles had the last succesful mass cavalry charge, i forgot what it was though.

[Anonymous No.6990393]

>>6990167
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>>6990220


But every great men questioned their purpose and role. Julius Caesar was the same when he saw a statue of Alexander, claiming how he hasn't done anything with his life before becoming emperor.

Einstein was stuck in a deadend bank job and his own father considered him a failure.

I think you all will achieve greatness in your lifetimes.

[Anonymous No.6990406]

>>6990393
t-thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6990410]

>>6990392
>charge against German tanks
>win

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mokra

[Anonymous No.6990414]

I know your feelings all too well. Seeing that you have mentioned Sorrows of the Young Werther, I do hope that you read it. My first time reading it was while I was in love, that was a very intense experience and I too wanted to end my life after rading it. It's that powerful, given the right circumstances.
>>6990393
If we were to live our lives over and over again, every time the same way we did earlier, there should be at least one moment of transcendence, of rising above yourself, that redeems all of the suffering. To this moment we should all strive.

[Anonymous No.6990425]

>>6990410
>there was only one cavalry charge in the september campaign.
>falling for Goebellian propaganda 70 years on.

[Anonymous No.6990476]

>Politics
Do something better with your life man.

[Anonymous No.6990482]

>>6990167
Reading about great men and their lives actually gives me the opposite effect. It trivializes my 'problems' compared to the things they accomplished and endured and makes me feel much more happy.

[Anonymous No.6990865]

>>6990482
I sometimes get the same effect, but sometimes it's kind of disappointing seeing everything he accomplished at such a young age.

[Anonymous No.6991367]

i fell into a 'reading about napoleon depression' recently too

[Anonymous No.6991371]

>>6990167
>implying they weren't unimportant as well

>Once upon a time, in some out of the way corner of that universe which is dispersed into numberless twinkling solar systems, there was a star upon which clever beasts invented knowing. That was the most arrogant and mendacious minute of "world history," but nevertheless, it was only a minute. After nature had drawn a few breaths, the star cooled and congealed, and the clever beasts had to die. One might invent such a fable, and yet he still would not have adequately illustrated how miserable, how shadowy and transient, how aimless and arbitrary the human intellect looks within nature. There were eternities during which it did not exist. And when it is all over with the human intellect, nothing will have happened.

[Anonymous No.6991379]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5gfgYP2juI

[Anonymous No.6991390]

>>6990213
"My dear young friend," said Mustapha Mond, "civilization has absolutely no need of nobility or heroism. These things are symptoms of political inefficiency. In a properly organized society like ours, nobody has any opportunities for being noble or heroic. Conditions have got to be thoroughly unstable before the occasion can arise. Where there are wars, where there are divided allegiances, where there are temptations to be resisted, objects of love to be fought for or defended–there, obviously, nobility and heroism have some sense. But there aren't any wars nowadays. The greatest care is taken to prevent you from loving any one too much. There's no such thing as a divided allegiance; you're so conditioned that you can't help doing what you ought to do. And what you ought to do is on the whole so pleasant, so many of the natural impulses are allowed free play, that there really aren't any temptations to resist. And if ever, by some unlucky chance, anything unpleasant should somehow happen, why, there's always soma to give you a holiday from the facts. And there's always soma to calm your anger, to reconcile you to your enemies, to make you patient and long-suffering. In the past you could only accomplish these things by making a great effort and after years of hard moral training. Now, you swallow two or three half-gramme tablets, and there you are. Anybody can be virtuous now. You can carry at least half your morality about in a bottle. Christianity without tears–that's what soma is."

[Anonymous No.6991400]

1. Pull a Rachel Dolezal
2. Join Boko Haram

[Anonymous No.6992101]

>>6991400
I think I'll just pick up snuff instead.

[Anonymous No.6992227]

>>6990263
Can any historyfags explain why do they put their muskets this way? Also is this really how armies at that time camped? I am really interested in this part of military history.

[Anonymous No.6992266]

>>6991390
Dear gods...
Simply divine.

[Anonymous No.6992273]

>implying you can't be an egostistical megalomaniac who conquer large amounts of well-ploughed land in 2015

the battlefield has just changed, anon.
>inb4 some filthy idealist implies that slaying russians or frenchies is more noble than slaying pussy

[Anonymous No.6992360]

>>6992227
Just guessing, but it probably keeps the barrels dry and clean so the gun doesn't Fuck up when it's needed.

[Anonymous No.6992376]

>>6990167
>Implying they did the world any favors

These men were tyrants, glorified by insecure men with no direction in their lives. If you idolize these men, you believe in the legitimacy of slavery.

[Anonymous No.6992381]

>>6990167
Caesar felt this exact way when he looked back at Alexander, he actually broke down into tears in Iberia on one occasion I believe, because he felt he'd accomplished nothing in his life compared to his predecessor. The guy was 51 when he crossed the Rubicon.

But let's remember, Alexander was born into power, and an xbox huge army his father had spoiled with him. Caesar had to work his way up.

But Caesar was also born into nobility, in a culture far more conducive to producing great men than any modern society.

True achievement begins with becoming superior to your former self. Gauging yourself by the lives of those who came before is unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.6992399]

If you've read enough history, you should come to realise that we are living in one of the most tumultuous periods for over a millenia. Struggle will come and engender the conditions for great men and great change. If you don't think that you're delusional or an optimist. The waters of history are flowing once again, perhaps this time we'll do more than simply breach the surface.

[Anonymous No.6992471]

>>6992376
Ok. And? Sadly this world cannot have liberty, equality, and fraternity.

The world is a triangle, you can only have two of them without setting off the third.

[Anonymous No.6992521]

>>6992471
Youve been a slave so long that it makes you rage when you see a free thinking individual.

Reminds of that scene in Easy Rider:

"Billy: What the hell's wrong with freedom, man? That's what it's all about.
George: Oh yeah, that's right, that's what it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it - that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. 'Course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh yeah, they gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom, but they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em."

Also youre conclusion is that of a man whose given up on life.

[Anonymous No.6992540]

I found the magical combination of novels read to feel soul-crushingly insignificant. Yesterday I finished All Quiet on the Western Front, and today I picked up and read about half of Bernhard's The Loser. I will never amount to anything, so the rational next step is to start reading New Sincerity bullshit like John von Dorf.

[Anonymous No.6992549]

>>6990167
Read Aurelius.
Their lives don't matter. The praise they get is useless to them. Nobody will give a shit eventually. All is in vain. Just live life according to nature, and in virtue.

[Anonymous No.6992595]

>tee you will never ride across the eastern world on elephant, conquering nations, starting a new religion whilst holding the new Koran in your hand
why must life be so hard?

[Anonymous No.6992597]

>>6991367
What did you read, friend? I'm just coming off it and l don't like that one bit.

>>6992376
I think this might be bait, but whatever, here's your reply.

Whatever Alexander and Caesar may or may not have done was in line with contemporaneous beliefs, morals, and society.

The only people who truly believe Napoleon was a tyrant are ignorant clowns who buy into British propaganda. Bet you think he's a literal cuckold manlet too. Yeah, it was the British governmwnt that inventes that kins of shitposting.

Napoleon was the best ruler France had aince the Thirty Years' War, and he rightfully takes up his position as one of France's greats. He helped end the Terror, orchestrated the overthrow of the coerupt Directory, and finally disbanded the redundant Consulate full of sycophants.

Napoleon is the one who brought about the golden age in France.

Also, l have no idea why l just typed this out, consdering yours was probably a troll post.

>>6992399
>If you've read enough history, you should come to realise that we are living in one of the most tumultuous periods for over a millenia.

How so?

[Anonymous No.6992626]

>>6992597
Just because everyone believes a lie it doesnt automatically make it true. And this is in response to this statement;
>Whatever Alexander and Caesar may or may not have done was in line with contemporaneous beliefs, morals, and society.

Also, British propaganda or not the man will not be remembered forever and ultimately that's the problem with you and OP, you want to live on forever if not physically in the hearts of others like these men did. Its a purely egotistical pursuit. Anything after that is just commentary.

[Anonymous No.6992640]

been lookin at to many big breats and asses

[Anonymous No.6992645]

Curious are napoleons memories of st helena worth a read? You know the interviews he gave while there to his confidante.

[Anonymous No.6992669]

>>6990176
Napoleon wrote like ghetto people on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.6992731]

>>6992626
>Just because everyone believes a lie it doesnt automatically make it true.

I never said that.

You're looking at history through the lens of modernity. Not to mention throwing the word tyrant around willy nilly. Neither Alexander nor Caesar were tyrants by historical definitions. They were warriors. You can't fault them for killing and conquering. It 's just the way the world worked then.

>Thw man will not be remembered forever

Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, Gustavus, and for better or worse, Hitler, will be remembered centuries from now. Now l can't vouch for forever, but the mark they made on history is impossible to ignore.

>>6992645
I haven't read them myself, but judging by what l have read in Roberts' book, Napoleon's secretaries aren't reliable at all. Whether they're cozying up to Napoleon while he's still in power or the Bourbons after his fall, they're just purely self-serving peopaganda.

[Anonymous No.6992797]

>>6992731
KEK are you seriously trying to convince me they were not tyrants? The delusion is strong with this one..

>It 's just the way the world worked then

Implying that in anyway changes anything, the events occurred; thats all that matters regardless of anything. Seriously what are you getting at with this statement? You trying to justify their actions? You would be their slaves back then; or be killed.

Also like I said, the reason youre defending these men is a projection of you trying to defend yourself because you are not ready to accept your mortality and insignificance.

>Now l can't vouch for forever

No, because then you'd be even more wrong.

>but the mark they made on history is impossible to ignore

Not in the infinite its not.

[Anonymous No.6992801]

>>6990167
no.

[Anonymous No.6992836]

>>6992797
>The background on historical events isn't a factor in studying them

Uh huh.

And l have absolutely no idea where you're coming from with your shitposting about our own insignificance. I'm pretty sure people who are 18+ and spending time on 4chan have made peace with a life of mediocrity.

Why are you wven in this thread anyway? I really do hope people aren't as dumb as me and reply to you.

[Anonymous No.6992901]

>>6992595
>Never knowing the sheer terror and the frozen faces of Roman troops as they faced Hannibal's war elephants

[Anonymous No.6992903]

>>6992836
Youre the only one replying because youre the only one dumb enough not to see the truth of the matter. Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Youre defending dead men who you obviously know nothing about if you cant see them for what they are; and you're not refuting any of my points, just stubbornly refusing to accept youre wrong.

>The background on historical events isn't a factor in studying them

Its a factor, sure; but nothing more. It doesnt mean shit in terms of right and wrong. A right being based in truth and natural law, and the actions based in it do no result in harm to other sentient beings. A wrong would be just the opposite, not based in truth or natural law and results in harm to other sentient beings.

I know it hurts to be proved wrong but hey it happens, and its not a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.6992922]

>>6992903
Your retarded shithouse opinions result in harm to my psyche you little goody two shoes unrepentant faglord

[Anonymous No.6992934]

>>6992903
But you didn't prove me wrong, bud. (:

Judging people who lived two thousand years ago by modern standards is just about the most ignorant thing one could do.

[Anonymous No.6992950]

>>6992922
No need to get so emotionally charged buddy, if you have facts to back up your claims you can just express them to me logically, im a reasonable guy, but this immature outburst of yours isnt doing you any favors in proving your point..(not that you really had one)

[Anonymous No.6992952]

>>6992950
fuck off to /pol/ you retarded libertarian

[Anonymous No.6992992]

>>6992934
>Judging people who lived two thousand years ago by modern standards is just about the most ignorant thing one could do.

Then whats the point of even talking about them? You're wrongly assuming Judging=bad

You're judging them too, also based on modern standards because you're living in the modern world, with your own biases and perceptions; something you cant escape. Only when you judge them, youre not calling them tyrants. If were going by your statement then you're just as ignorant as me (or more) because youre also judging them.
And if thats the case, youd be implying that its all a matter of how one perceives things, but youd also be wrong.

If I dont believe in gravity does it not exist? Is it only my perception that counts? Seriously, keep digging yourself deeper in the hole..

Im not making the claim you can escape your perceptions free of human thought, but I am making the claim that we are most certainly able to adjust our perceptions and bring them in alignment with truth.

[Anonymous No.6992995]

>>6992952
So I guess you have nothing of actual value to add to this thread. Sorry but your half assed insults arent making me take you any more seriously.

[Anonymous No.6993088]

I might try to find royalty to marry into.

Just some random Bavarian princess who is some 3x removed from royalty just so I can bestow honors on my children.

[Anonymous No.6993093]

>>6992273
By well-ploughed land do you mean used up whores? Because that's what Bilzerian gets.

[Anonymous No.6993098]

>>6991390
utopic tbh

[Anonymous No.6993103]

Were they really that great?

[Anonymous No.6993104]

>>6990172
Pleb shit.

Play Victoria 2.

[Anonymous No.6993114]

>>6993103
Yes. Just how great may vary on your definition of the word,but they were undoubtedly some of the greatest figures in history.

[Anonymous No.6993124]

>>6993114
How exactly were they great?

[Anonymous No.6993125]

>>6990358
Dim lighting is best lighting. I literally get headaches sitting in artificially lit rooms that are too bright. All my bulbs are lowest wattage available.

[Anonymous No.6993170]

>>6992903
Nah you're retarded. I bet you're some revisionist scum.

Context matters whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.6993186]

>>6993124
Each of them either laid the groundwork for or ushered in their country's golden age.

[Anonymous No.6993195]

>>6993170
Samefag is samefag

Also, fuck your gibberish.

[Anonymous No.6993212]

>>6993195
Sorry bud

[Anonymous No.6993232]

>>6993212
Well, even if it was gibberish, at least youre not samefag.

[Anonymous No.6993269]

>>6990198
>many of those people would end up dying for the virtually pointless ambitions of one man
Sad really.
OP, don't believe this fetishizing of war that's been pushed onto you since birth to make you more willing to die for other people.

[Anonymous No.6993284]

>>6993186
don't really understand why, they were just military men

[Anonymous No.6993321]

>>6993284
Alexander, sure. Napoleon and Caesar were just as effective administrators as they were strategists.

[Anonymous No.6993350]

>>6990198
>I can't get into video games anymore sadly. Used to love them growing up.

drink a beers

[Anonymous No.6993357]

>>6992903
If I'm reading you correctly then you are continuing the recent trend of labeling the past as some kind of pathology, and that history is the linear progression of removing a sort of mental illness from mankind. This idea is absurd.

[Anonymous No.6993406]

>>6993357
This all started when a bootyhurt faggot couldn't accept these men were tyrants.
Also, how is the idea absurd?
Are you really arguing there was no wrong doing in our past as a species (and still going on today)? What are you arguing exactly? Are you mad I called all those men listed on OP's post tyrants? They were, im sorry you have a problem with truth.

[Anonymous No.6993411]

>>6990167

>Napolean
>Great man

LOL

[Anonymous No.6993421]

If you thought hard enough you could be like those guys nowadays

[Anonymous No.6994184]

>>6990277
>wanting to die for a bourgeois who doesn't give a shit about you
xD

[Anonymous No.6994374]

Men are not defined by achievement and talent, if that is all there was, we would have surely given ourselves to an Alexander the Great or Napoleon. We admire them, but it's important to consider them moments and characters in the narrative of history, in reality they are not men you should wish to be.

Especially if your primary reason for admiring them is their role in that narrative.

[Anonymous No.6995480]

>>6993411

One hundred years from now he will still be remembered.

And you?

[Anonymous No.6995617]

>>6994374
This. Chance plays a far greater role in shaping our lives than any other single factor.

[Anonymous No.6995633]

>>6990167
jesus fucking christ you got issues

[Anonymous No.6995772]

>>6995633
You tell me you get a deep sense of fulfillment from your day to day job in a 9-5 office?

Or would you rather be out shaping and driving history and shaping it's future?

Keep wage slaving away normie

[Anonymous No.6995866]

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

[Anonymous No.6995877]

>>6990167
>Charlemagne
It's always so weird when I read that name. I prefer Karl the Great.

[Anonymous No.6995883]

>>6990198
>But with those advancements war became more brutal and violent, losing a lot of the heroism that it had before.
War was never heroic, that's just what you read about it.

[Anonymous No.6995884]

>>6995772
lol yeah shape the world from behind a screen in that apartment your parents are paying for

[Anonymous No.6995908]

>>6995883
There are two theories behind this, at least from what I've read.

The first is that war wasn't brutal in the sense where you would go in and destroy another city, try to kill as many people as possible, mainly because the ruling Monarch likely shared some family ties, or with the desire to not occupy a land where you had just massacred a whole generation of their men and children in war.

So the soldiers wouldn't really have any desire to kill someone that could become a citizen of their state given the constantly shifting border disputes, and their desire to just return home after a campaign. But with increases in technology away from the infantry line really made it more brutal.

On the other hand, with the increased size of military empries and the size of the armies they were fielding, coupled with new artillery developments and more accurate rifles that could be fired where psychological conditions weren't as large of a roll, certainly made it more violent and brutal.

[Anonymous No.6995953]

Does anyone know how these people stayed hydrated all the time?

I assume the water wasn't safe to drink (from bacteria), and if they were only drinking wine they must have been hungover all the time.

[Anonymous No.6996344]

>>6995866
I like you

[Anonymous No.6996389]

>>6990167
Did you get to the end of the Napoleon book? He comes off the dumb cunt who couldn't hack it.

[Anonymous No.6996394]

>>6990167
>to many
D R O P P E D

[Anonymous No.6996402]

>>6996389
>Dumb cunt that couldn't hack it

Took all of Europe to defeat him. He could have asked France to fight a guerrilla war like Spain did against his brother in France.

But instead he did the honorable thing, surrendered, prevented Paris from burning to the ground like Moscow did.

I think you're wrong friend.

[Anonymous No.6996518]

>le achievements of le great men
>literally no one cares outside of history nerds
>even the families of the people they murdered don't care because so much time has passed
jej

>>6995908
>The first is that war wasn't brutal in the sense where you would go in and destroy another city, try to kill as many people as possible,
I think that this was actually the case, at least in theory, but such things still happened nevertheless.
Unrelated to the civilians, combat between foot soldiers was quite brutal in the era of close combat (up until after WW1). Much more brutal than shooting someone. As technology developed combat itself became less brutal, but the destruction that could be inflicted became much much greater and more methods for quick mass murder appeared, which increased the overall brutality.

[Anonymous No.6996594]

>>6995877
>It's always so weird when I read that name. I prefer Karl the Great.
Sounds like shit. Charlemagne, Karolus Magnus and Karl der Große are much better.

[Anonymous No.6996616]

>>6996594
>ß

[Anonymous No.6996637]

>>6995953
http://usna.edu/Users/history/abels/hh381/Medieval%20Logistics.htm

Wine or other alcohol, it looks like. Presumably armies traveled from hard point to hard point, so they'd have safe water sources like wells or springs if they took a town somewhere. It also would have mandated pillaging areas just so you could keep your army from starvation.

[Anonymous No.6996641]

>>6996518
just get out, neither your meme spouts or badly thought out history speculations is a good match for /lit/

[Anonymous No.6996737]

>>6992273
alpha worshipper detected

[Twiggy !!ErZLYHNhXgZ No.6996745]

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[Anonymous No.6996754]

>>6995772
>>6990167

comparison is the thief of joy

[Anonymous No.6996915]

>>6990167
This post is so childish that it's kinda cute.

Not trying to ridicule you, mind you. I was kinda like that when I was in my mid teens.

[Anonymous No.6997058]

ego is not your friend. if your only approach to art/whatever is to see it as married to your autobiography then abort. you're only going to make bad art and be increasingly pissed off and indignant as you age.

[Anonymous No.6998486]

>>6996915
Not even mid teens m8. 26, full time worker. Accountant.

No real meaning or interactions with people anymore. No more shared image in a ruler or uniting movement.

Just been feeling how shitty this all really is where my back hurts from working, I can't sleep from stress, but in all reality if I didn't get my reports done, nothing would happen in the grand scheme of things.

It just seems like everything I do in my life has no deeper effect on anything.

I dunno I'm kind of drunk, and just wallowing in it. Not feeling as bad, but still these leaders took advantage of every situation they've been given.

Maybe that's what I should take away from it. Just fully embrace that nothing in life really matters, unless it some how can truly mold history.

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>>6996594
Karl Hungus? The guy from the beaver picture?

[Anonymous No.6998635]

Start dating young girls you social slave, it's very exciting. Just go drive with them or flirt and roll in the park with them.
A cute little 14-year-old can give you everything a woman can't. Many great men realized this.
>>6990358
Torches and candles, sunlight from windows, skylights, roof windows, chandeliers, lanterns and lamps. It'll just be hot as hell is all.

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>>6998635
I'm not out there trying to just add another notch in my belt.

I'm talking girls who are in high society. I attended a debutante ball and it was basically straight True Detective level of occultism. Antlers, blind girls etc

[Anonymous No.6998765]

>>6995772
There's a third option that requires neither wage slavery nor narcissistic grand narratives.

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>>6998734
>Antlers
You went to a damned cuckold ball?
>add another notch in my belt.
Date one then and go on adventures with her.

[Anonymous No.7000127]

>>6996594
>tfw people never remember the superior Karl Martel

If it wasn't for his grandpappy, Charlemagne might have been a Muslim.

[Anonymous No.7000423]

>>7000127
It's either Charles Martel or Karl Martell.

[Anonymous No.7001005]

>>7000127
Charlemagne never would have been a Muslim. They had more pride than the Balkan animals.

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>>6990183

And all of them together have not produced anything like the level of culture we had when war was king

[Anonymous No.7001049]

>>6990476

War and politics are two very different things

[Anonymous No.7001188]

>>6992597

Best part is Nappy wasn't even French

Seriously, fuck the revolution, fuck Rousseau, and fuck the French

[Anonymous No.7001205]

Alexander would be appalled by the things we do to one another today, both in war and in peace

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>>7001188
He was French for all in tents and porpoises.

[Anonymous No.7001266]

I'm actually really enjoying Werther. I can see why it was popular around Napoleon's time.

[Anonymous No.7001269]

>>6990167
You still can conquer the world

[Anonymous No.7001319]

>>7001005
Do you know how conquest works, bud? Islam had already become a force to be reckoned with by the time of the Battle of Tours, and if Martel had lost there, l think it's safe to say that a large chunk of France would have shared the fate of Spain.

>>7001188
Napoleon was French in nearly every way. The only exception to that is the fact that he was born to Corsican parents, but even that is void when you consider that Corsica was already under French rule ny the time he was born.

Besides, we're not talking about the nationalist Corsican teenager here. Napoleon was a true Frenchman by the time be was involved in the Army.

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>>7001319

Every way except blood, which was the source if his nobility.

[Anonymous No.7001379]

>>7001337
Did you miss thenpart where all noble titles were abolished and Napoleon wasnonly spared because he was one of the few competent Republicans? His blood didn't really matter at that point.

The nobility was unimportant until years after Napoleon was crowned Emperor, and even then they were just a thorn at his side.

Napoleon not being French is just a meme.

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>>7001379
>Don't forget how short he was
:^)

[Anonymous No.7002084]

Anyone tried that South African wine that he tried when he was in St. Helena?

http://www.kleinconstantia.com/our-wines/vin-de-constance

I've been considering treating myself, and at $50 a bottle given the historical significance seems like it could be a nice bottle to enjoy.

Wish I could find a bottle inside the United State though.