At what age did you grow out of Marxism? Me? I was 16.

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Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:25:07 2015 No.6986262 [Reply] [Original]

At what age did you grow out of Marxism?

Me? I was 16.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:25:37 2015 No.6986265 >>6986262 19

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:26:02 2015 No.6986267 I haven't read him yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:26:47 2015 No.6986269 20 20 year olds really are the worst people on the planet

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:27:34 2015 No.6986271 >>6986262 How do I grow out of Marxism? I need help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:29:48 2015 No.6986279 File: 305 KB, 793x1400, 1385962491972.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986262 I was 17. >>6986271 ask yourself when his theories have been put into practice and what were the results?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:30:12 2015 No.6986281 >>6986262 15

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:30:20 2015 No.6986283 >>6986262 12 or 13 I grew out of Rothbardian libertarianism when I was 17 I'm not interested in political ideology anymore. The worst ideas are great ideas. I'm a republican and a Democrat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:31:28 2015 No.6986286 >>6986262 I was also 16. Coincidentally it was the same time I actually started studying politics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:32:24 2015 No.6986293 >>6986262 I never grew into politics All politics and ideologies are inherently pleb, unless it's for memes / laughs

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:32:40 2015 No.6986295 File: 102 KB, 793x2500, 1437535000269.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986279 people that use the "communism has never been tried" are idiots though, but marxism clearly has a lot more to offer than stalinism

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:40:07 2015 No.6986310 >>6986295 if youre using fuckin chavez as an example well lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:40:54 2015 No.6986316 17

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:46:58 2015 No.6986338

>>6986262

I stopped being a Marxist not because I disagree with anything about Marxism but because I know people like OP exist out there and I no longer believe in building a better world if it means helping them.
People deserve to suffer as much as possible and capitalism is the most expedient end to that.

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:47:44 2015 No.6986341

>>6986295
Chavez and Mahkno were totalitarian dictators. None of those people created prosperous states that any sane person would point to as a success story. Marcos is a nom de guerre of a bunch of rebels who live in the mountains and steal most of their food for god's sake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:48:29 2015 No.6986345 >>6986338 cold modafuka

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:49:56 2015 No.6986349 >>6986338 edgy

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:50:10 2015 No.6986352 >>6986341 not mahkno I meant meant tito.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:52:08 2015 No.6986360 >>6986349 >anyone who sincerely hates people is just being an edgy contrarian grow up, meet some people, learn some things, read a book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:55:34 2015 No.6986374 >>6986262 I was never stupid enough to ignore my history or economy teachers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:57:12 2015 No.6986382 >>6986360 If you can't see even the smallest shred of good in people you're an edgy misguided fedora Even Hitler liked dogs and believed in welfare

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:58:19 2015 No.6986387 >>6986360 >>6986338 hello reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:58:36 2015 No.6986390 >>6986382 Hitler didn't have to live in the 21st century.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 15:59:20 2015 No.6986392 >>6986341 Can we really not say that after the entire 20th century, "BUT GUYS REALY NO OEN HAS TRIED REAL MARCXISM/CUMMIMISM"

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:00:14 2015 No.6986396 >>6986390 reblogs on tumblr you forgot to shill for bernie sanders in your post, though

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:00:42 2015 No.6986400 File: 93 KB, 669x514, 1435987669843.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986341 It doesn't fucking work. The closest thing to a real communist society would've been Pol Pot's Burma and they couldn't even get it off the ground.

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:02:16 2015 No.6986405
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>>6986396
>>6986387

>muh memes

It's always easy to spout the brainless /pol/ tards.
If you actually read books you would probably have something more clever to say about this.

>misanthropy is tumblr
>misanthropy is reddit

I'm sure I would have gotten thousands of upvotes on reddit for my post :/

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:02:54 2015 No.6986408 File: 27 KB, 300x100, 22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986341 >Chavez and Mahkno were totalitarian dictators stop

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:04:28 2015 No.6986414

>>6986400

In Marx's defense he argued that Socialism had to be implemented in advanced industrialized societies. That was something that was never tried. It was Leninists who decided to do it in the poorest countries possible. While it was easier to get those people to rebel and get behind the idea of Communism because they were more directly being exploited by imperialism those countries were too poor at the outset to be economically viable as socialist states.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:05:34 2015 No.6986422 >>6986405 hello reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:08:23 2015 No.6986430 >>6986422 nice shitpost can we let everyone get back to their thread now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:08:35 2015 No.6986432 >>6986414 I would argue that Marx (and not to knock him on this) didn't foresee robots or the widespread use of mind-numbing entertainment. For that reason people will never care enough to implement it in a real society.

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:10:19 2015 No.6986441

>>6986432

Yeah.
Have you read Marcuse? He updates the Marxist position to provide an account of the social control that comes along with technology. Pretty much comes to the same conclusion you did about how we're not living in remotely revolutionary times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:11:03 2015 No.6986444 >>6986430 hello reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:14:30 2015 No.6986454 >this whole thread >this in particular >>6986400 >Pol Pot's Burma Jesus Fucking Christ, you people. We get it, go away.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:15:52 2015 No.6986462 If you think "Marxism" is a thing then you haven't grown out of Marxism. All the most defensible ideologies today are various strands of neo-Marxism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:27:18 2015 No.6986504 File: 245 KB, 800x800, 1420669664265.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986462 >Marxism isn't a thing >neo-Marxism is

Anonymous Sun Aug 16 16:52:03 2015 No.6986595
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>>6986262
I was around 15 when I realized that the rich didn't give a single fuck about the rest of the world, and 20 when I realized that liberal or socdem politics to make them care has lead nowhere.

I find it hilarious how none today can really critique socialism without resorting to the grade-school Stalinist boogeyman such as "communism wants a dictator", "private property is personal property" or "Hitler was a socialist".

>>6986462
>2015
>not being a orthodox marxist

Also, sage because we have this thread far too often.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 17:34:10 2015 No.6986801 21

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 17:35:12 2015 No.6986810 >>6986271 frequent /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 17:38:19 2015 No.6986825 >>6986338 I agree. Accelarationism is the fastest way to make life on earth a neo-Darwinist hell. Only from the ashes of an unbalanced world can Communism arise. Gotta go fast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 17:43:45 2015 No.6986861 Once it became mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 16 23:38:24 2015 No.6988663 >>6986262 15, but I was only marxist for a couple of months. >>6986269 why do you say that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:11:35 2015 No.6988799 >>6986262 My friend is 23 and still quotes "Religion is the opium of the people" whenever a religious topic comes up, and wears a Che Guevara shirt. I have an unusually high tolerance for cringe, so I oblige his crazy rants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:13:31 2015 No.6988808 I was never Marxist, because I wasn't tricked by Democrats. I read Bakunin and Kropotkin instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:14:40 2015 No.6988815 File: 184 KB, 512x471, aang_momo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986262 >At what age did you become unable to think critically and enjoy being a wage slave cuck? Hasn't happened yet, but good luck OP and anons!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:18:09 2015 No.6988838 >>6988815 Who shall till the fields?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:19:39 2015 No.6988846 >>6988838 People who enjoy it. Robots too. And I promise you, there are people who do enjoy it. I know some.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:21:06 2015 No.6988855 >>6988846 There aren't enough people who enjoy the tilling of fields to fulfill the need.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:23:49 2015 No.6988871 >>6988855 There will be when the food runs out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:23:52 2015 No.6988873 >>6988808 my nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:24:56 2015 No.6988880 >>6986295 Nothing has, quite literally, more to offer than Stalinism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 00:26:38 2015 No.6988891 >>6988871 Why not kill all humans then? then there would be no injustice.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:14:06 2015 No.6989501

Honestly probably 14. Maybe younger. Basically back then I would think about how *I* would rule a country, instead of thinking about it from the perspective of the regular citizen; ergo, who I would end up being.

It was a fun exercise to think about how I would run a society but ultimately useless and not in my best interest to support as somebody who is now an entrepreneur and full on capitalist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:17:22 2015 No.6989514 >>6986262 Never got into him because I read the Manifesto and was intelligent enough to realize it's too naive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:25:16 2015 No.6989542 What was the Nietzsche critic of Marxism?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:26:29 2015 No.6989548
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>>6986271
Understand that to apply Marxism on a given society you'll have to change the nature of the human beings living there. Then, study ontology and understand that it's not compatible.

>pic only for distraction

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:30:14 2015 No.6989561 File: 13 KB, 320x320, 11249258_1574587172790579_627736072_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Politics belong to /pol.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:31:01 2015 No.6989562

There is a real lack of understanding how transition happens.

Capitalism didn't become dominant through a couple great events. Strategic legal restructuring, the unleashing of credit/debt relations, ideological revolutions, technological advance, and other factors moving at uneven paces, in non-linear fashion led to what we have now.

If the communist hypothesis is a correct one, them we'll see the 20th century developments as part of a longer move towards radical transition. Soviet Republics, Maoism, Eurocommunism, pink wave, western insurrectionaries, "lumpen" discontent and such aren't necessarily antithetical to one another. There is no correct, narrow road through history.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:33:23 2015 No.6989570
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>>6989562
or rather when america controls the entirety of global economy and pushes us into a police state? Wanna read a great book about communism? Pic related

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:38:44 2015 No.6989593
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Typical /lit. I bet none of you have read Marx's Capital. And to think you know best before you're 25, 30?

When you're slaving in a factory or a petrol station for a few years, not having the time or energy to achieve anything but be ready for work the next day, not having enough money to lift yourself out of it, Marx will be laughing at you from the afterlife.

Memo: You are not going to win the lottery tommorrow.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:40:42 2015 No.6989597 >>6989593 sounds like the millions of peasants who starved to death gathering resources for their "country" Marx win right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:40:52 2015 No.6989598 17 I think

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:41:47 2015 No.6989602 >>6989570 Man you really must be well read you just destroyed Marxism and all of his three volumes of Kapital with your high-school knowledge of literature. Please tell me more!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:43:20 2015 No.6989609 >>6989597 Try learning English before coming to /lit/ thank you.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:44:01 2015 No.6989612 >>6989602 Yeah i am pretty well read, I read Atlas Shrugged too! And a little bit of Keynes Heres some more, man: Mao Ze Dong Gr8 communist win

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:45:23 2015 No.6989614 >>6989609 What's wrong with my english? Are you going to attack my argument or keep spouting out awful liberal fallacies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:46:26 2015 No.6989618 >>6989548 >Human nature Metaphysical bullshit >Ontology Metaphysical bullshit >Your post Metaphysical bullshit.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:47:10 2015 No.6989622 File: 77 KB, 640x420, 150081.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] More evidence Marx was right in this post

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:49:46 2015 No.6989630 >>6989618 please develop. Human beings aren't just a social construct btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:51:08 2015 No.6989635 >>6989597 Stalinist Russia was totalitarianism.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:51:40 2015 No.6989636 >>6989630 no, but their identities are Thats the goal of communism, to give every single person the same identity. Incase you misunderstood Marx's words.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 03:53:25 2015 No.6989642 [DELETED]

>>6989635
That's what communism is. It's the opposite of democracy. Incase you didn't understand what communism means.

Citizens may be fooled into thinking they're voting on something but really its all towards complete government control

Incase you haven't been paying attention to our president's actions or the rapid degredation of our society

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:55:22 2015 No.6989650 >>6989630 Your empty brain is most certainly certainly a social construct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:57:03 2015 No.6989656 >>6989630 You empty brain is certainly not a social construct, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:59:17 2015 No.6989669 >>6989612 Wow you have great taste and knowledge of economics. Are you a phd student by the way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 03:59:39 2015 No.6989671 >>6989656 ad homineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:02:10 2015 No.6989680

>>6986338
People like you actually exist? How does someone get to the point where they legitimate hate others and want them to suffer because of a difference in ideology. It's understandable to think somebodies a moron, but actual hatred? chill out and put away the fedora.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 04:02:18 2015 No.6989682 >>6989669 law school

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:03:21 2015 No.6989686 >>6989671 you are retaaaaaaaaaaaard

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:05:03 2015 No.6989695 >>6989680 Willfully ignorant people deserve to suffer

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:05:05 2015 No.6989696 >>6989642 No you're wrong

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 04:07:16 2015 No.6989699 File: 139 KB, 529x640, 23889217.Aboriginalgirl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6989696 Nice argument is this b8???

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:09:06 2015 No.6989706

>>6986262
I am not a Marxist but there are plenty of concepts in Marxism which are very useful if you separate and decontextualise them from the philosophicaland political tradition of which they are a part. For example the concept of the Culture Industry and the concept of Social Alienation are very useful and could easily be used from a variety of political perspectives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:10:25 2015 No.6989711 >>6989699 This Alex Jones is telling the truth!!! They are putting chloride into our water!!!! Hussein Obama is a muslim and not a US citizen! Gas the kikes race war now 14/88!!!!!!!

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 04:14:32 2015 No.6989724 >>6989711 It comes down to the fact that not all human beings are created equally Sorry, trannies

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Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:21:47 2015 No.6989745

I outgrew out of Marxism for the following reasons:

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>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 04:22:30 2015 No.6989746 >>6989745 all of these reasons are so legit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:23:21 2015 No.6989749 >>6986262 i was a socialist from senior year of high school to sophomore year of college but i was never a marxist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:26:55 2015 No.6989762 File: 19 KB, 316x384, reactioon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6989745 lost at anti-freedom obongo >mfw I didn't know shitposting was also in /lit/

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:27:44 2015 No.6989765 [DELETED]

>>6989746

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:30:53 2015 No.6989772 >>6989736 This pretty much sums up what's good and bad about the historicity of communism. When will /pol/ leave?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:32:51 2015 No.6989780 >>6989642 >Incase you haven't been paying attention to our president's actions or the rapid degredation of our society oh man

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:37:25 2015 No.6989793 [DELETED]

>>6989772

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:53:07 2015 No.6989843 >>6989793 this is great tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:57:50 2015 No.6989858 >>6986262 17. When I got my first job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 04:58:41 2015 No.6989863 File: 38 KB, 388x452, 1421307741487.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986262 >mfw you havent even read marx

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:00:01 2015 No.6989866 >>6986338 Agreed, humanity doesn't deserve better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:02:34 2015 No.6989869 File: 70 KB, 484x578, 1439275158547.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986283 >I'm a republican and a Democrat. dat political dichotomy

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:04:47 2015 No.6989876 >>6986338 you gotta be careful with that many edges youre liable to cut yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:04:57 2015 No.6989877 File: 65 KB, 625x415, foucault n heidegger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6989869 yesssss memedegger is back !!

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:07:58 2015 No.6989882

>>6989843

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE WETBACK BEANER BORDER JUMPER DUNE COON KIKE JEW CHRIST KILLING JEW PARASITE HYMIE CRYPTO BOLSHEVIK SHYLOCK YELLOW SKINNED GOOK CHING-CHONG SUB-HUMAN GYPPO TURK MONGOLOID COONASS YUROFAGGOT CUCK SWEDISH CUCKS SAMBO SEMITE EFFEMINATE LEFTIST

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 05:11:49 2015 No.6989891 >>6989570 you have to be a troll

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:05:02 2015 No.6990648
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>>6986262
Never grew into it fortunately. Instinctively knew it was all bullshit before I've read it, and after I've read I knew for sure 100%.

Today I buy Marxist literature by dozen at flea markets and use it to fire up my grill. It's best use for anything leftist in general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:07:55 2015 No.6990651 >>6986262 15. I stopped being an atheist at 17, and stopped being a feminist at 18.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:11:05 2015 No.6990657 >>6986279 Funny, Lenin explicitely states in The State and Revolution that he 'doesn't try communism'. Equating the Red Terror with the Stalinist purges is really fucking dumb, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:12:22 2015 No.6990663 >>6988799 I need more friends like this. Always a good time

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:14:50 2015 No.6990667 >>6986338 Euronymous, is that you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:15:44 2015 No.6990672 >>6986262 SHITPOST H I T P O S T

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:18:09 2015 No.6990677 >>6986295 Perfect graph, OP. You, you're alright!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:19:18 2015 No.6990682 >>6990648 Edgimus Maximus

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:19:50 2015 No.6990685 >>6986310 Read a book about Chavez and all the good hiz government did. You are buying into western propaganda, and hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:22:05 2015 No.6990693 >>6986374 > economy teachers Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:24:34 2015 No.6990698 >>6988808 My nigga

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 10:39:26 2015 No.6990740 >>6990648 Someone post that picture of the kid holding a squirt gun to his head and holding atlas shrugged

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:03:03 2015 No.6991225 I doubt that any person that grew out of Marxism up to the age of 22 actually had enough knowledge on this topic to call himself a marxist lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:04:16 2015 No.6991231 >>6986295 this picture is at least as stupid as its counterpart. as if fucking Chavez and Tito were good examples for a post-capitalist society, fuck me

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:05:18 2015 No.6991240 >>6988808 >>6988873 >>6990698 >anarkokiddies

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:20:51 2015 No.6991314 >>6986462 >the more u disagree with my favorite thing the more u dont understand it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:21:23 2015 No.6991315 I don't believe in Marxism but I am a communist because it's fun to be edgy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:27:24 2015 No.6991335 >>6991296 Sounds like non-circulating vouchers and militarization of labor to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:28:09 2015 No.6991339 >>6989680 >implying you need to hate someone to want them to suffer

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 13:35:45 2015 No.6991375

i've pretty much always been a libertarian as long as I've held a political opinion.
My parents were republicans and I shared their (for the most part) economic sentiments while holding more left social policies.
Not like universal healthcare mind you, I mean like equal rights, and no not the bullshit that is affirmative action, both legally and on an individual level.
Basically short of basic human rights, murder, rape, etc with some business safety and monopoly regulations, the government should have little to no impact on my daily life, regulating it and the like.
Not to say military shouldn't exist, but no were near on the scale the U.S. Has it at today.
Though I agree with the the tactic of technology > numbers (to a reasonable degree.)
Eisenhower was the best president.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 14:14:46 2015 No.6991578 >>6991339 le psycho face >:DDDD

>>	Fapman !!q/8pd+yX2Hn Mon Aug 17 14:17:16 2015 No.6991595 >>6986262 14-20

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 14:24:05 2015 No.6991646 File: 407 KB, 881x483, Get a load of this guy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6990648 >Never questioned yourself and blindly believe whatever you already perceive to be true >Research Bias >psst nothin personnel kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 14:44:20 2015 No.6991737 >>6991578 >implying you need to be a psychopath to want someone to suffer

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 14:46:18 2015 No.6991748 >>6986262 Why are you implying that everybody goes through a Marxist phase? Are you an idiot? Answer truthfully.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 14:48:37 2015 No.6991757 >>6986262 Only plebs grow out of ideas. Curious people grow into them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 17:45:53 2015 No.6992545 >>6989736 >>6989772 Anarchism is so dank if only people would listen bro. Wanna pass that joint dude? we got to go back to 8th grade in a couple minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 18:00:50 2015 No.6992605 >>6991757 What if they're bad ideas?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 18:10:10 2015 No.6992653 >>6989695 That is pretty much everyone bud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 18:15:04 2015 No.6992681 File: 450 KB, 640x657, 1436212571400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >defending an ideology based on a spoiled brat's misreading of David Ricardo

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 18:58:42 2015 No.6992937 >daily Marxism troll thread >bump limit reached

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:10:26 2015 No.6992993 >4chan: Notorious haven of the elitist bourgeoisie where one-upmanship forms the basis of almost all social interactions >distaste for Marxism Well I never.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:11:54 2015 No.6992998 File: 185 KB, 960x720, 1433645282324.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6992993 back to cripple chan my friend

>>	BXBXBXBXBXBXB Mon Aug 17 19:14:06 2015 No.6993009 >>6992998 take out three or four people and the group would seem pretty decent

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:14:45 2015 No.6993014 File: 2.93 MB, 390x215, 1434611944701.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I'm a marxist

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 19:15:37 2015 No.6993018 >>6993009 I think a group of regular of /pol/ users would be much larger, and way less faggier

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:15:52 2015 No.6993020 >>6992998 I find your conviction entertaining tbh, if a little crude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:16:26 2015 No.6993026 >>6992993 for marxists one up a man's shit forms the basis for all social interactions

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:17:36 2015 No.6993034 >>6993018 lol find me a single picture of a 4chan irl meet up that doesn't consist solely of autists and nerds >this conceit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:20:02 2015 No.6993044 >>6993014 >*tip top

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 19:56:32 2015 No.6993181 i'd be surprised if there's 3 prople in the whole thread that have read das kapital

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:02:49 2015 No.6993200
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>>6993018
Regular /pol/ users are too busy still being in high school to ever meet up. I guarantee you at least 90% of that board is populated by underage children who just don't admit it. I refuse to believe that adults earnestly spend their time posting fedora memes, nigger facts, "cuck", and evo sci shit about how men evolved to want to impregnate 13 year old girls. Go to any other board like /lit/, /sci/, hobby boards like /diy/. Then compare them with /pol/ and /r9k/. The rift between the sorts of audiences that visit these boards becomes extremely apparent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:04:15 2015 No.6993207 >>6991757 >hanging on to every bullshit idea you had as a teenager Keque. Learn to forget, m8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:08:49 2015 No.6993231 >>6993200 evolutionary psychology is real though. Our brains evolved, retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:12:43 2015 No.6993248 >>6993200 /pol/ is literally a world superpower influencing world events and highly influential figures post there, also /sci/ has a huge crossover with /pol/ /lit/ is a bunch of hipster fags and is just as dumb as /mu/ but less funny and more smug

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:13:35 2015 No.6993250

>Grew out of Marxism
>Teenager

Sure /pol/fags

Marxism isn't a "teenager" ideology, most get into it when their well into the workforce and are fucked over by their employer (myself) or when they are in College politics.

The vast majority of teenagers I meet are either Liberals or Libertarians. I don't think I've ever met a teenage Marxist, I don't even think the vast majority of Teenagers would even know what a "Marx" is. The only experience most Teenagers would even have of Marxist ideology is a Che t-shirt and that's worn more about anti-American imperialism, not Marxism as an ideology.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:14:56 2015 No.6993260

>>6993231
Evolutionary psychology might be real, but that doesn't mean it gives any ignoramus license to go around making shit up on the go.

>men evolved to be better at le stem than female wymyn because in the stone ages the females sat in the cave eating stone bon bons while men spent time calculating the trajectory of an arrow in order to hit a gazelle

>women subconsciously want to be raped because everyone reproduced via rape in the caveman days

And before you call me an SJW, this is exactly what happens all the time. People seriously, unironically, think that "cavemen" lived just like in the Flintstones.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:18:33 2015 No.6993276

>>6993200
Also pretty much this.

/pol/ is underage edgy teenagers and incredibly immature NEET Hikki's who still think they are teenagers in their early 20s.

>>6993260
Also the best part, /pol/fags will just ignore all science, sociology, anthropology, psychology when you start to bring up actual studies to show they are full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:21:59 2015 No.6993295 File: 278 KB, 332x402, 8SU6Z2k.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986262 >tfw 20 and still an anarchist Fix me, /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:22:16 2015 No.6993296 >>6986262 14

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:22:34 2015 No.6993299 >>6988799 >Che Guevara shirt Can you at least smack the shit out of him until he appreciates the metaphor in the appropriate context?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:23:09 2015 No.6993304

>>6993276
>Also the best part, /pol/fags will just ignore all science, sociology, anthropology, psychology when you start to bring up actual studies to show they are full of shit.

Jewish overrepresentation in academia means of course they're not going to let something that even hints that jews are bad or white goyim are good through. You can't pretend it's not highly politicized.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:23:20 2015 No.6993306 >>6993295 Try being 23. I'm long past incurable. No regrets tbh. Authority can choke on my swollen hatecock.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:23:48 2015 No.6993308
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>>6993276
Haven't you heard? Academia has been infiltrated by judeobolshevism. The only trustworthy science is popular evosci, pickup artistry, and phrenology. As a notable retail worker and civil engineering freshman, I think know a thing or two about a thing or two. I've already gotten my results from numerous credible free online IQ tests that say I'm a genius and my 23andme says I'm carrying a high concentration of precious Neanderthal genes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:24:09 2015 No.6993309 File: 86 KB, 850x400, ancient greece btfos communism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6988838 >Who shall till the fields?

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:24:37 2015 No.6993310 >>6993276 But their evaluation that American women are become culturally, morally degraded whores is spot on. Anyone who disagrees is only doing so because they're mad and crave Tyrone and Jamal's dick (at the same time)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:25:51 2015 No.6993313 >>6993231 that's the equivalent of saying astrology is real because there are stars http://dirkderom.com/work/Reprints/Bunge%202007.pdf see section 9

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:26:27 2015 No.6993315 >>6993276 You mean they'll avoid fallacy ridden feminist logic and "literature" because they know its complete bullshit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:26:48 2015 No.6993317 >>6993308 >Academia has been infiltrated by judeobolshevism Good jokes but it has. Jews have a worldwide population of less than Holland.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:27:25 2015 No.6993320 File: 18 KB, 312x197, And+now+we+wait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993306 Hey man, DON'T kill yourself.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:29:23 2015 No.6993331 >>6993317 The fact that they have such a small population and control such a large amount of the economy should be a red flag. If you don't believe me or want to tell be to gb2 /pol then just google Rothschild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:30:08 2015 No.6993332 >>6993331 How old are you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:31:18 2015 No.6993335 >>6993308 >/pol/ >pickup artistry, How do you expect people to take you seriously when you don't even know what you're making fun of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:31:22 2015 No.6993336 >>6993331 >Has a trait of being greedy with money >People think when they promote 'anti-racism' it's out of the kindness of their heart

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:32:23 2015 No.6993339 >>6993332 Does it matter? You'll just say he's either underage or immature for his age.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:32:33 2015 No.6993341 >>6993306 So, shouldn't I feel ashamed? I just never had contact with a better vision of world besides an anarchist one. >>6993295 here, and sorry about my English, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:33:20 2015 No.6993344 >>6989680 >How does someone get to the point where they legitimate hate others and want them to suffer because of a difference in ideology. Having to actually deal with other people is a good start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:33:35 2015 No.6993345 >>6993339 I'm curious.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:34:01 2015 No.6993346 >>6993332 10,000, ive seen all this stuff happen before, just warning you that communism will mark the end of the world

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:34:57 2015 No.6993348 >>6993341 Yes, you should be deeply ashamed and I want to the virtues of civilization into you with a stick.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:38:55 2015 No.6993362

>>6993335
There's a big overlap with PUA shit on /pol/. Even if a large contingent of them regard promiscuity as a vice, many seem to readily embrace the ideas which form the basis of pickup evo sci woo; ideas of the "sexual market place", neurolinguistic cues, men stratified along intrinsic social castes based on dominance and submission (alphas, betas, any other Greek letter you want), the belief that women have ulterior motives informed by an all-female groupthink based on "reproductive strategy". I could go on. If you start a typical woman-related thread in /pol/, depending how serious your tone is, you're bound to get some of this pseudo scientific shit thrown in between the typical 'bitches and whores' style posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:40:07 2015 No.6993366 >>6993346 End of history. Communism will mark the end of History. Not the end of the world.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:41:14 2015 No.6993368

>>6993362

I have to agree that some bullshit on PUA are far too reaching... but you have to admit that books like the rational male make yourself so much more aware of the cues when relationating with woman

I remember once I learnt about shit tests and then saw how people shit tested me all the time my life objectives completely changed

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:41:58 2015 No.6993373 >>6993362 you can post whatever you want on /pol/ left-wingers seem to flock to places with heavy censorship

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:43:05 2015 No.6993380

>>6993362
Girls do have a collective uncousciousness though. At least millenial girls do. It's called Instagram, and top 40 hip hop. AKA Vapidness

Daddys little girl is more than likely a whore now, and she's going to justify it in any way she wants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:45:41 2015 No.6993386 >>6990685 Or you know, I'm buying into what my friends who actually live in Caracas and lived under his terrible rule tell me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:46:19 2015 No.6993388 >>6993362 >ideas of the "sexual market place" But that one's real. Most chicks probably don't want to date a NEET who still lives with his mom.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:47:31 2015 No.6993394

>>6993373
I'm apolitical. I have long ago realized that to have meaningful political opinions, people have a responsibility to stay informed. I decided it wasn't worth it, and by extension I have pledged never to espouse a definite opinion about things because I am almost surely ignorant of the topic being discussed. I see unsubstantiated opinions posted all the time, and that is exactly what I want to stop doing. Regardless, /pol/ of all places is hardly a place to have a constructive discussion when at any moment, most people are liable to simply call you a cuck or chalk up inconvenient facts to a conspiracy targeted at making them look bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:47:52 2015 No.6993396 >>6993366 It's 99.999999999% certain that the universe is a simulation meant to solve problems for its creators through chaos so what's the point in that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:49:01 2015 No.6993401 >>6993394 >inconvenient facts can you give an example

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:50:16 2015 No.6993405
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>>6993380
>Girls do have a collective uncousciousness though. At least millenial girls do. It's called Instagram, and top 40 hip hop. AKA Vapidness
It means they're one step closer to reaching the singularity. Now who's the less evolved gender?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:51:51 2015 No.6993412 >>6993380 i think everyone on the internet is part of a collective consciousness and the world has become an ouija board now

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:52:35 2015 No.6993414

>>6993373
>left-wingers seem to flock to places with heavy censorship

Because the left wants to actually discuss political issues, right wingers want to shitpost and derail conversation.

I'm part of numerous political forums and political science forums. On literally every one it's left wingers and moderates actually discussing events and politics, then right wingers come in with "OLOLOL! LEFTARDS BTFO", then start just ignore all debating or conversation points and start going into thinly veiled insults.

It's also interesting that /pol/fags claim they are for free speech, yet seem to do everything in their power to shut down left wingers, I mean, fucking Gamergate? Sad Puppies?

Also whenever you post a left wing thread on /pol/, it's shitposted to oblivion almost instantly.

The idea that /pol/ is anything but a far-right wing echo chamber full of shitposters and stormfront astroturfers (Stormfront literally has board dedicated to brigading 4chan and reddit) is laughable.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:54:30 2015 No.6993423

>>6993386
Chavez is a shithead, but anecdotic evidence is completely irrelevant. A rich guy is likely to have a perception of chavez government completely opposed to that of a poor person.

>>6993394
I hope more people had this approach to knowledge in general. I'm tired of edgy teens spouting their opinions after reading some blog or a /pol/ thread.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:56:10 2015 No.6993428
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>Idiots with no experience with girls actually believe PUA shit and "Sexual market places"

Want to know the trick to "getting laid"? Treat females like fucking normal human beings and don't be an awkward desperate retard.

I've never had to resort to even trying to "pick up girls" to have sex with them.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 20:56:26 2015 No.6993430

>>6993414
No, the left discredits any form of politcal debate with the "you're a moron" or "racist conservative scum" fallacies, and then consider these as valuable and factual, important political arguments?

Lefties are almost impossible to have an intellectual debate with because their entire worldview is based on misinformation and lies that they have ignorantly absorbed. They are the brainless sheep ruining society.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:56:39 2015 No.6993432 >>6993414 >gamergate Oh no. A bunch of people shitposting on the internet

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:58:11 2015 No.6993438

>>6993414
Those forums you talk about have moderators that rule with an iron fist against political incorrectness. People know they're going to get banned if they show that they aren't left-wing so of course they're going to put in a parting blow to make people sore along with the point they wanted to sacrifice their account to make.

You talk about shitposting but the fact is leftism is one big concern troll on behalf of secular judaism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:58:54 2015 No.6993443 File: 162 KB, 452x452, aurini.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the face of the contemporary right wing intelligentsia

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 20:59:49 2015 No.6993447

>>6993386
> live in Caracas

Ding ding.

This is where the hate of Chavez comes from. The rich and upper middle classes of Caracas.

There is a reason Chavez wins elections, he appeals to rural Venezuelans and the poor and essentially everyone outside of Caracas inner city.

The reason you don't see them online is because those who are poor literally live in giant fucking slums, before Chavez, thousands starved to death, 40% of the country didn't even have access too water.

When those "protests" were going on, I remember international reporters noting "There were no actual protests outside of rich neighbourhoods" and that the poor were actively destroying the barricades.

The PSUV are corrupt and Maduro is retarded, but the vast majority of what is said about Venezuela in the western media is full of shit. It's confirmed that the US is engaging an economic war on Venezuela, the documents have literally been leaked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:00:59 2015 No.6993458 >>6993443 ask /pol/ what they think of him

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:01:26 2015 No.6993461 File: 107 KB, 399x482, trump.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6986262 17. After watching two sheboons take over a Bernie Sanders rally I knew it was over for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:02:18 2015 No.6993465 >>6993461 happy birthday

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:02:59 2015 No.6993474 >>6993430 >implying there aren't equally ridiculous arguments from sanctimonious assholes on the right pls anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:03:53 2015 No.6993478 >>6993474 like wot

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:03:54 2015 No.6993479 >>6993458 No doubt, that he's a Jewish false flag that is intended to make them look bad.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:05:35 2015 No.6993488 File: 143 KB, 1024x683, 1439504133004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993479 do you think /pol/ would hold this guy up as the face of your lot?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:06:12 2015 No.6993490

>>6993430
>No, the left discredits any form of politcal debate with the "you're a moron" or "racist conservative scum" fallacies, and then consider these as valuable and factual, important political arguments?

Absolutely wrong. Again, the right wing doesn't even try to engage debate. I can tell you how almost every "debate" with the right wing goes down in forums

>People discussing some form of policy say that cuts wages to the poorest workers in society

>Suddenly
"OLOL LEFTARDS BUTTHURT THAT SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK, THESE IDIOTS DON'T DESERVE GOOD PAY, THEY NEED TO TAKE CUTS FOR THE GOOD OF THE ECONOMY STUPID LEFTARDS!"

"Why do you support this policy? It even economically makes no sense? History shows us it won't rise employment, it isn't supported by economic data and it's very specific against one sector that also suffers from wage theft and low wages and zero benefits"

"OLOLOL LEFTARDS FUCK YOU, IF YOU WEREN'T ALL LEANERS INSTEAD OF LIFTERS, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND, LEARN ECONOMICS, TRICKLE DOWN IS A ECONOMIC AXIOM (literally had this said to me before) THE MORE MONEY THE EMPLOYER HAS THE MORE HE WILL EMPLOY! FUCKING LEFTARDS!"

"but that doesn't make sense, if this was a factory maybe, but employment in this sector is driven by demand, why would a business owner eat up more of his profits to hire more workers he doesn't need?"

"FUCKING LEFTARDS, FUCK YOU LEFTARD, LOL SOCIALISM, FUCKING LEFTARDS"

then the flat out shitposting and spamming begins.

This literally happens on essentially every political forum on the internet. This is how essentially every debate I've ever so go down with the right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:06:42 2015 No.6993495 >>6986262 nah

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:07:40 2015 No.6993496
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>>6993414
>Sad Puppies?
Do you even know what that is?

The voting body for the Hugos is Worldcon, which is basically just a scifi fanclub which anyone can join (for a membership fee). They have a policy that anybody that buys a ticket to the awards can suggest 5 or so books that they think should win.

So one guy has the of encouraging like-minded individuals to join the club, and vote for a pre-made slate of nominees which he laid out. This group refers to themselves as the Sad Puppies. This was the third year that he tried this, but the first to be successful.

So now all the members of the organization (GRRM included) is mad about each other and people are basically saying they're a bunch of misogynists and racists because of a voting block for some shitty sci fi pulp award.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:07:50 2015 No.6993498

>>6993362
I think PUA stuff about evo psychology is worthwhile. They came from a place of 'how do I sleep with lots of girls' and studied and applied it in real life. It wasn't an academic exercise for them. They wanted to know what would work and found out.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:08:19 2015 No.6993503

>>6993430
Since we are in a thread about marxism and you, unlike those ignorant lefties, research the subjects you talk about instead of "ignorantly absorbing" them (from /pol/), could you describe the marxist worldview and how is it based on misinformation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:09:03 2015 No.6993507 >>6993488 >your lot? Not my lot, but they do. All the time. The go-to reply to any remotely left wing related thread is either a picture of this guy, or "Stalin and Mao killed 999999999999999999999999 therefore checkmate."

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:09:22 2015 No.6993508 >>6993496 >saying they're a bunch of misogynists and racists Perhaps because they've literally appeared on Stormfront radio for interviews? That his entire argument was "The feminists and Jews have taken over literature!"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:09:45 2015 No.6993512 >>6993490 >Capital letters for LOL DUMB STRAWMAN PERSON

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:09:55 2015 No.6993513 >>6993478 >They are the brainless sheep ruining society. any other statements you'd like to contribute?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:10:00 2015 No.6993515 >>>/pol/

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:10:47 2015 No.6993518

>>6993503
>Since we are in a thread about marxism and you, unlike those ignorant lefties, research the subjects you talk about instead of "ignorantly absorbing" them (from /pol/), could you describe the marxist worldview and how is it based on misinformation?
STOP! He's going to post the Yuri Bezmenov video again!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:11:58 2015 No.6993522 >>6993512 Except it's not a strawman. that is actually how they post, leftard tends to be the most common word used by the right on forums. They tend to be very abrasive and abusive and just exist to shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:12:14 2015 No.6993524 >>6993490 It's funny because "trickle down economics" was entirely made up by the left as a strawman. It's so bad even Paul Krugman attacked it as if it were a real economic theory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:12:51 2015 No.6993528 >>6993518 Of course he isn't. He doesn't just ignorantly absorb information, so he has to have read marx and will explain the errors in his analysis of capitalism shortly. Stay tuned!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:13:17 2015 No.6993529 >>6993522 It is a strawman you faggot, doesn't matter if there might be such a person somewhere, you're posting about it like an idiot and not convincing anyone of anything.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:14:53 2015 No.6993532

>>6993508
Who fucking cares about what they appear on?

The claim is they're racist and women haters, despite them voting for books and shit made by people of different races and women. What's the issue? "This guy who does the interviews appeared on a neo nazi site, but the block is still voting for non-white people"?

I honestly think the outrage is completely fake, probably so GRRM can continue blogging about science fiction award show drama instead of writing his fucking books.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:15:34 2015 No.6993536

>>6993518
>Yuri Bezmenov

Why do right wingers love this guy? He's so obviously full of shit and his stories are so fantastical, ahistorical and full of shit they sound like something out of a poorly written James Bond ripoff.

"The Soviets actually infiltrated Hollywood and are now using subconscious messaging in films to turn people into Marxists, they also collapsed the USSR on purpose to pretend they were defeated, but in reality they've actually taken over the vast majority of the world banks and Government institutions and they will soon use their subliminal coding from Hollywood to spark a world wide Cultural Marxist revolution!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:15:37 2015 No.6993537 >>6993528 What is your goal with marxism? Because something vague like "more happiness" isn't going to cut it with no valid proof and results.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:15:51 2015 No.6993539

>>6993512
It goes down like this

Right wing person explains their idea, logic, and evidence. Immediately, 40 diffferent individual SJWs emerge from the depths of hell and immediately begin "NO HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU GET LIKE OMG IM CRYING AT YOUR STUPIDITY CAN YOU JUST STOP??? YOU ARE SOOOOOO UNEDUCATED LIKE SERIOUSLY DO YOU LIVE IN THE 1800S OR SOMETHING????"

The attacks continue repeatedly and without end, each agreeing with the last and then proceeding to say "DO YOU LIKE SEE HOW NOBODY AGREES WITH YOU??? THATS BECAUSE WERE RIGHT!!!!!! DUMB CONSERVATIVE REDNECK DIPSHIT!!!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD BE LIKE AN EQUAL"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:16:05 2015 No.6993542 >>6993532 >despite them voting for books and shit made by people of different races and women. I too have a black friend.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:17:08 2015 No.6993548 >>6993524 Thats why capitalist countries have the highest GDP/quality of life even for the poor, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:17:14 2015 No.6993549 >>6993414 >Gamergate Who exactly who shutting down who? anti gamergate are the ones who try to bully people out of their jobs

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:17:23 2015 No.6993550

>>6993532
>The claim is they're racist and women haters

Because they are Stormfaggers?

>despite them voting for books and shit made by people of different races and women

I literally did the numbers, they had only 1 woman or one "non-white" for every few categories, clearly just there for diversion, most of those authors have also distanced themselves from Sad Puppies and some even said they didn't give permission.

>"This guy who does the interviews appeared on a neo nazi site, but the block is still voting for non-white people"?

"I have a black friend, I'm not racist!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:18:18 2015 No.6993557 File: 187 KB, 640x1136, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When it got popular. I was 12.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:18:50 2015 No.6993563 >>6993548 I'm not arguing against capitalism, I am a huge supporter of it. I'm just saying that trickle down economics are a misrepresentation of the economic process made up by the left.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:18:51 2015 No.6993564 >>6993539 These people should be lined up on the streets of Russia and judged by ex soviets tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:19:18 2015 No.6993568 >>6993529 It's not a strawman, that is literally how the vast majority of debates with the right go down on forums, identical to that. >>6993524 >was entirely made up by the left as a strawman Yeah Reagan, that left winger.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:20:12 2015 No.6993573

>>6993542
The so-called "oldfags" say a new group made a voting block because they hate women and different races.

Then the voting block votes for women and different races.
>>6993550
>they had only 1 woman or one "non-white" for every few categories
Oh, so they just don't have enough people of different races and women? Is that what makes them racists and misogynists?
>clearly just there for diversion
Yeah and the jesw and the lizard men run the world from atop of mount doom! Fucking delusional.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:20:45 2015 No.6993575 >>6993568 You can't use a strawman and then say it's not because someone like that exists. It's literally a strawman argument, you're a fucking idiot. You typed the entire opposing view in a silly way in capital letters. Are you fucking 15 years old?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:21:06 2015 No.6993579 >>6993568 I mean even this guy took it as real >>6993548

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:21:58 2015 No.6993583 >>6993548 >Thats why capitalist countries have the highest GDP/quality of life even for the poor, right? You mean like Bangladesh? Nepal? Congo? Eritrea? Malawi?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:22:09 2015 No.6993586 >>6993550 >clearly just there for diversion If they cared about not appearing racist they probably wouldn't appear on stormfront

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:22:14 2015 No.6993587

>>6993537
I'm not a marxist. And the question is retarded, marxism doesn't have a goal. Marxism is a materialist analysis of history, a sort of post ricardian view of economics, etc. I'm just tired of 15 year old /pol/tards that have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about making/posting in these threads.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:22:24 2015 No.6993589

>>6993549
>the ones who try to bully people out of their jobs
Didn't Gamergate send false claims of "harassment" to get advertisers to pull out of Gawker after they ran a news story they didn't like?

And what about the harassment of Anita Sarkeesian and that woman programmer with the manface? Was that not harassment? Oh right, they just sent those messages to themselves. It's all a conspiracy, yet again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:23:25 2015 No.6993592 >>6993587 What do marxists want to achieve? What kind of goalposts do they have in modern politics?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:23:59 2015 No.6993595 >>6993539 >>6993548 Still waiting for you to answer >>6993503. Please stop writing like a retard, this isn't /pol/.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:24:36 2015 No.6993597

>>6993573
>Is that what makes them racists and misogynists?

Oh look, another right wing faggot being obtuse. No, what makes them racists and misogynists is the fact they are literal stormfronters, the list was created to stop the "Wimmenz and the darkies taking over literature" and to reassert white male conservative dominance on the genre.

>Yeah and the jesw and the lizard men run the world from atop of mount doom! Fucking delusional.

Yeah, a tactic that the right constantly uses "Oh look, here's a black person so all this racist shit we are saying isn't really racist!" is some crazy conspiracy theory.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:24:46 2015 No.6993599 >>6993583 All of these countires have basically no politcal or economic organization whatsoever. They could never pull off capitalism.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:25:39 2015 No.6993604

>>6993589
Harassment isn't "shutting down". There was obviously harassment from both sides because they're "movements" that anyone can immediately join and do whatever they want in the name of their side.

But it's clear that one side was often ignoring any valid points from another by compressing everything into "you're sexist if you disagree".

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:26:34 2015 No.6993609

>>6993599
They are Capitalist countries you fucking retard.

"All the countries that's aren't the most developed first world countries are all Socialist! apart from the fact they all have private ownership, all have free markets, all use a capitalist economy!"

fucking lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:26:40 2015 No.6993610 >>6993597 What's wrong with white males dominating the genre?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:27:09 2015 No.6993616 >>6993592 Again, marxism doesn't want anything, it's an analysis tool. If you mean communism, they want a classless, stateless society, where workers own the means of production.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:27:15 2015 No.6993617

>>6993595
>everything would be better if everyone was equal
>people should all get everything for free no matter how much work they do
>the bourgeouise are out to ruin our lives
>collective identity is good for society

Want some more? Unlike other "/pol"tards that you immediately discredit because of their faction, I've actually read Marx.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:27:53 2015 No.6993620 >>6993604 >"you're sexist if you disagree". Says the right wing who ignore all sociology and anthropology because over a 150 years of PhD reviewed studies in scientific journals doesn't agree with essentially any of their points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:28:10 2015 No.6993622 >>6993616 Why do they want that? How can a stateless society happen with current technology?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:28:54 2015 No.6993626 >>6993617 0/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:29:11 2015 No.6993628 >>6993620 What are you talking about? What points?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:29:19 2015 No.6993629

>>6993597
>a tactic that the right constantly uses "Oh look, here's a black person so all this racist shit we are saying isn't really racist!"
See >>6993586

I honestly barely care about science fiction(and even less about some shitty science fiction awards) but as an outsider I honestly think it's just an excuse for GRRM to blog about stupid shit instead of working on his books.

Seriously I don't even know when this stupid internet drama started(looks about February) but he's STILL writing shit about it

http://grrm.livejournal.com/
http://www.livejournal.com/gsearch/?engine=google&q=puppies&cx=partner-pub-5600223439108080:3711723852&cof=FORID:10&as_sitesearch=grrm.livejournal.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:30:12 2015 No.6993632 >>6993628 EvoPsy, PuA, 17th century racial theory.

AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:30:18 2015 No.6993633

>>6993609
I never called them socialist, I called them unorganized. Capitalist countries use the money they have to make more money. If a nigger country is too stupid to spend their money properly, then why would they have success? Would they be better off as socialist countries? you realize that can only be achieved by a completely authoritarian government right?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:31:01 2015 No.6993637

Jews promote open borders because they think removing ethnic homogeneity and creating ethnic tensions will allow one race to protect them if another turns on them.

Jews don't consider themselves white and consider themselves exempt from white privilege. Any time a jew journalist says they're "white" get ready to hear about how evil 'we' are. They are very sneaky about this.

Nationalism becoming taboo after 1945 was due to jews collectively blaming all white goyim for the holocaust and treating even the people who fought and died against nazism as nazis in waiting.

This is all true and knowing it doesn't make you an icky nazi. Guilt by association to stormfront or the fat guy you saw in American History X doesn't mean knowing this means you're a hater that wants to kill all jews.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:31:26 2015 No.6993641 >>6993632 What does this have to do with my points about gamergate?

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:31:32 2015 No.6993643 >>6993626 typical marxist argument cant refute anything i say, just writes it off in a bath of their own ignorance

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:32:56 2015 No.6993654 >>6993641 when a bitch is a whiny cunt, people are going to tell her just because youre a girl doesn't mean you can't be a whiny cunt

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:33:46 2015 No.6993656

>>6993604
>Harassment isn't "shutting down".
Apparently we live in a causal vacuum where harassment and intimidation that arise as a result of voicing a certain opinion have no bearing on the speaker's decision to proceed with the offending speech.

>But it's clear that one side was often ignoring any valid points from another by compressing everything into "you're sexist if you disagree".
On the other hand, being a sexist is the TRUE censorship. Checkmate, communist faggots!

>There was obviously harassment from both sides because they're "movements" that anyone can immediately join and do whatever they want in the name of their side.
Gamergate didn't have to be a movement that anyone could join if it was really about "journalism ethics," but that isn't what it was about. It took off because a vindictive boyfriend decided to post a dubious breakup story on the internet and called on le 9gag army to get revenge on his ex. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. The reviews Zoe Quinn got for her game in exchange for precious pussy currency never materialized because they didn't exist.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:34:30 2015 No.6993663

>>6993550
>they had only 1 woman or one "non-white" for every few categories
So what? Due to time constraints, there are very few female or non-white authors worth reading. In terms of the living, there are zero female authors worth reading and there's not a single living western female author that is creating anything beyond pulp trash. The situation for non-white authors is slightly better but still dire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:34:46 2015 No.6993666 >>6993656 *being called a sexist My bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:35:35 2015 No.6993670 check my dubs

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:35:35 2015 No.6993672
File: 124 KB, 980x1154, 1439198736287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Races don't exist (but racism does)

Races don't exist (they're ethnicities, by which I mean the exact same thing but I'm arguing semantics)

Race is just skin color errr I mean it doesn't matter that ethnicities are different because people from the same race can be different too!

btw you should give black people more money and apologize for slavery, asshole racist

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:35:48 2015 No.6993674

>>6993617
Marx doesn't say those things. In fact, 99% of marx economic work is about capitalism, not about communism.

Now that we've demonstrated that you haven't read marx, take a time to realize that you criticized leftists for absorbing missinformation while you were talking about a subject you know nothing about, based on missinformation. Be humble enough to admit to yourself that you don't know shit, and that to be better than those that you criticize you should read the shit you post about.

>>6993622
Be more specific in your questions or read marx yourself, i'm not going to write a summary of his entire work.
I'll just point out that your question "How can a stateless society happen with current technology?" is marxist in itself, since you are implying that modes of production determine the organization of society. Congratulations, you are a (proto) marxist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:36:34 2015 No.6993679 >>6993589 >that woman programmer with the manface That's actually a man.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:36:58 2015 No.6993682

>>6993641
You mean, the movement that claimed it was for journalistic ethics while specifically targeting women and minorities and cultural analyists? The heads of the movement have zero to do with video games and are from far-right wing organziations and think tanks (Milo, CHS, Aurini, Owen, Sargon)?

The movement that had a wiki page listing out home addresses and phone numbers and employeers of people they didn't like?

If you honestly think that Gamergate was anything but a far-right counter-culture movement that was quickly latched onto by groups that represent the Republican Party, then you have to be fucking blind.

>/pol/
>Caring about "ethics"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:37:24 2015 No.6993684 File: 42 KB, 500x496, 1437957434001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993679 Epic, simply epic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:37:38 2015 No.6993687 >>6993672 You shouldn't be proud of a country just because you happened to be born in it! You should feel guilty about the historical crimes of a country you just happened to be born in!

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:37:44 2015 No.6993688

>>6993656
>Gamergate didn't have to be a movement that anyone could join if it was really about "journalism ethics," but that isn't what it was about. It took off because a vindictive boyfriend decided to post a dubious breakup story on the internet and called on le 9gag army to get revenge on his ex. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. The reviews Zoe Quinn got for her game in exchange for precious pussy currency never materialized because they didn't exist.

There were reviews where someone praised her game without declaring their relationship to her.

Then many other examples that have nothing to do with her came around.

Wtf are you even doing here? why don't you go on tumblr or reddit? Everyone will be happier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:38:45 2015 No.6993692 >>6993687 >>6993672 lmao Leftist HIV+ kool-aid is truly amazing, they are literally worse than the most retarded christian fundamentalist creationist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:38:48 2015 No.6993693 File: 70 KB, 429x286, 1414623612509-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993684

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:39:49 2015 No.6993696 >>6993674 >is marxist in itself, since you are implying that modes of production determine the organization of society. Congratulations, you are a (proto) marxist. It doesn't mean I want it What is the goal? More happiness? More equality?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:40:07 2015 No.6993698 >>6989542 >*What was the Nietzschean critique of Marxism? Nietzsche.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:40:19 2015 No.6993699

>>6993688
>There were reviews where someone praised her game without declaring their relationship to her.

Because the relationship didn't exist at the time of the reviewes. The time lines don't match up.

Also it's a free shareware game made to promote charity and mental health awareness. How exactly did she profit from reviews that didn't exist for a free shareware game made for charity?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:40:26 2015 No.6993700 >>6993684 His name is John Walker Flynt and he has a penis.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:40:31 2015 No.6993702 >>6993674 You just called Marx a capitalist. Is that argument really solid enough for you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:40:57 2015 No.6993703 >>6993682 >Sargon >Far-right wing

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:41:24 2015 No.6993705

>>6993688
>There were reviews where someone praised her game
Produce the review (s).

>without declaring their relationship to her.
Was it confirmed that there was one?

What makes one obligated to "declare their relationships"? What breech of 'journalistic ethics' does failing to do so constitute?

>Then many other examples that have nothing to do with her came around.
How many? Which ones?

>why don't you go on tumblr or reddit?
May I inquire what your age is?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:41:39 2015 No.6993709 >Thread has just turned into right wingers shitposting and posting /pol/ images Wow, how surprising. Why are the mods sleeping anyway? I reported this thread hours ago.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:42:10 2015 No.6993710

>>6993447
So they aren't people because they have money? Why is their opinion any less valuable than rural voters? I personally believe each voice should matter, but if you want to argue one voice over another, it's actually a lot more rational to argue for the educated bourgeoisie than the proletariat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:42:39 2015 No.6993712 >>6993306 Do you have long greasy hair and wear death metal tees and washed-out bluejeans with holes in the knees, and sleep on a mattress on the floor of your sparsely-decorated trash-filled apartment?

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:42:53 2015 No.6993713 >>6993698 Most of society is like flies who will do exactly what they're told, and anyone who chooses not to follow will be persecuted Also happens to be the Gospels critique of communism, lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:42:59 2015 No.6993715 >>6993703 Yeah, the White and Male supremacist isn't a right winger, he's totally left wing and progressive, just like Gamergate amirite! Just like how Briebart is totally a left wing and progressive news source because they want to legalize weed!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:43:04 2015 No.6993716 >>6993682 If you have a problem with a 'far-right counter-culture' movement being a substitute for soulless corporate shills toeing the line then you're probably a shill for secular judaism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:43:29 2015 No.6993719 >>6992545 god.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:43:45 2015 No.6993722

>>6993682
>You mean, the movement that claimed it was for journalistic ethics while specifically targeting women and minorities and cultural analyists?

I guess by saying "cultural analysts" it allows you to include any white man that has been criticized thus including literally anyone and acting like a victim about it.

There's no heads of movement, but if you want to call them such and then disregard it because they're right wingers (not all of them even are), then the other side is disregarded for being left wingers, great point.

To be honest you reek of feces and AIDS, I don't really see a reason to continue this discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:43:53 2015 No.6993723 >>6993709 >he thinks the report button actually does anything /lit/ is essentially unmodded. it serves as a place for /pol/ and leftypol to debate each other.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:44:00 2015 No.6993726

>>6993693
I don't see what your point is. Am I supposed to become unsympathetic because this person is allegedly not biologically female? Does outing this person amount to discreditation? Why do you believe that is?

Do you think digging up a person's past and mounting smear campaigns makes you righteous?

Keep on memeing, internet warrior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:44:15 2015 No.6993728 >>6993715 Sadly, everyone is a racial supremacist or an unwitting shill to one.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:44:23 2015 No.6993729

>>6993696
Jesus m8, i've already answered this, it's like i'm talking to a wall. Don't worry your analysis of history can be marxist even if you aren't a communist.

>>6993702
I see that you'd rather read what you want than admit to yourself you are talking out of your ass. I hope you reach intellectual honesty some day, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:44:40 2015 No.6993731 >>6993687 I feel indifferent.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:45:03 2015 No.6993736 >>6993709 you mean, right wingers making valid politcal arguments and left wingerers telling them to gb2 pol because anyone who doesn't share their opinion is automatically "like sooooo uneducated"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:45:22 2015 No.6993738 >>6993726 You said 'man-faced' when you knew we're talking about a tranny? That's some really compartmentalized not-being-transphobic m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:45:28 2015 No.6993739 >>6993705 >Was it confirmed that there was one? Yes. Zoe admitted that she slept with all of the "5 guys." Whether it matters or not I'm not sure.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:45:31 2015 No.6993740

>>6993710
>So they aren't people because they have money?

They are people, but constant elections have shown they are the minority in their views

>Why is their opinion any less valuable than rural voters?

Because they lost the election, they don't get to rule.

Also the fact that the media in Venezuela is incredibly bias to the right wing, Koch Industries pumps millions into Venezuelan right wing groups and student organizations, they actively engage in mass violence, they have a history of smuggling and hording goods and engaging in economic sabotage and blocking goods from going to poor neighborhoods.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:45:49 2015 No.6993742 >>6993699 Still free advertising with no disclosure. If the times don't match up then sure, then she's not valid and the other things are. Game journalism is shit and this is a movement about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:46:51 2015 No.6993745 >>6993715 What the fuck are you doing here? How do you even operate? You're the epitome of mental weakness.

>>	AZAZAZAZAZAZAZAZA Mon Aug 17 21:47:07 2015 No.6993746 >>6993729 > In fact, 99% of marx economic work is about capitalism, not about communism. But I'm reading what you wrote? Care to explain what you mean before discrediting me as "intellectually inferior"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:47:17 2015 No.6993747 >>6993736 >he says in a marxist thread after proving he hasn't read marx

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:47:52 2015 No.6993750 >>6993705 Why don't you go to tumblr or reddit instead of here? I'm 23

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:48:02 2015 No.6993751 >>6993589 >programmer with the manface Transphobe much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:48:21 2015 No.6993752 >>6993709 >and posting /pol/ images Yep, all 1 of them. Did you make this post for yourself or for other people?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:48:30 2015 No.6993753 bump for visibility

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:48:34 2015 No.6993754

>>6989593
90% of the users who have posted here are lying. They probably didn't even really hear about Marx until coming here or going to /pol/, let alone learn anything about him. "At 14-17, while playing Call of Duty and watching Death Note, I sure did give this complex political ideology a fair shake."

I have read "Das Kapital," a few times, actually, but I am a Marxist, so I suppose I'm exempt.

>>6989614
>liberal
Clearly you know nothing about Marxism. Just stop trying.

>>6989762
This is literally Shitposting: the Thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:48:53 2015 No.6993756 >>6993672 >>6993687 LEFTIE BITCHES ADDRESS THIS PLEASE

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:50:00 2015 No.6993761

>>6993702
Das Kapital directly relates to capitalism and its effects. Much of the criticisms made in it directly parallel problems brought up in Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations and his further writings.

The dude never called Marx a capitalist. It is undeniable that Marx's primary works are, however, about capitalism.

You should do the reading. I don't even just mean Kapital and WoN, but Hayek, Keynes, Friedman, Kropotkin, etc. etc.

You're really doing Capitalism a disservice by arguing against things people aren't saying. Honestly, /pol/ is better off without you, because at least a handful of them have actually read the things they're arguing about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:50:08 2015 No.6993763 >>6993751 Transgenderism is a mental illness

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:50:20 2015 No.6993764 >>6993315 0/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:50:41 2015 No.6993765 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:50:59 2015 No.6993768 >>6986262 I was never into marxism. I grew out of anarcho-capitalism at 15, though.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:51:00 2015 No.6993769

>>6993746
His most important work is Das Kapital, which analyzes how capitalism works. In fact, communism is barely mentioned in his works.
The fact that you don't know this show give you a hint at how ridiculously little you know about the subject.

>before discrediting me as "intellectually inferior"
Can you stop making up quotes? It's retarded and leads to straw men.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:51:10 2015 No.6993771

>>6993742
>Still free advertising with no disclosure.
This is an absolutely worthless statement. You haven't explained what obligates people to "disclose" private relationships.

You still haven't presented the alleged favorable reviews.

>Game journalism is shit and this is a movement about that.
Which is why Gamergate goes after the triple-A developers who pay big sites like gamespot to give each CoD 95% every time without failure, right? Oh wait, that isn't what happens. GG only cares about AAA when the possibility arises that "artistic integrity" might be compromised if the tits in your games aren't big enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:51:23 2015 No.6993772 >>6993761 This. This guy needs to leave, he's embarrassing the right here

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:51:35 2015 No.6993774 File: 19 KB, 300x300, the-klabnik.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's surprising that there are still educated people that don't identify as socialist communists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:52:17 2015 No.6993777 >>6993396 0/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:53:17 2015 No.6993780 >>6989882 U mad /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:53:34 2015 No.6993781 >>6993260 >>6993276 Why are men better at certain things than women and vice versa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:54:32 2015 No.6993787 >>6993781 before anyone responds - Nope, chess

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:55:05 2015 No.6993790 >>6993380 0/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:55:07 2015 No.6993791 >>6993756 >>6993672 >>6993687 LEFTIST BITCHES ADDRESS THIS

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:55:54 2015 No.6993794 Did Ronald Reagan read Capital? No? Well stfu bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:56:37 2015 No.6993801 >>6993771 >CoD 95% The sad part is that garbage like CoD is still far better than any of the games produced by SJWs. Shit like Depression Quest fails on every level.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:56:54 2015 No.6993803

>>6993430
>their entire worldview is based on misinformation and lies that they have ignorantly absorbed. They are the brainless sheep ruining society.
this viewpoint of your opponents is literally the most likely to garner productive debate and discussion, guaranteed.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:57:04 2015 No.6993806

>>6993754
>90% of the users who have posted here are lying.

90% of users are lying?

100% of them are. Again, Marxism isn't a teenage ideology.

How many teenagers are interested in doing advanced sociological, economic and historic analysis with methods you won't even begin to be taught until you are well into college/university?

When I got into Marxism well into my 20s, I found Marx's writings a slog to get through and incredibly dense.

Das Kapital has a word count of over 250,000, how many teens are going to read a dense, advanced economic treaty that is 25x over the size of a standard PhD thesis'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:57:51 2015 No.6993810 >>6993801 Shit like Depression Quest doesn't sell for $60 a pop either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:58:24 2015 No.6993815 File: 66 KB, 850x400, reagan communism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993794

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:58:25 2015 No.6993816 >>6993461 >After watching two sheboons take over a Bernie Sanders rally literally nothing to do with marxism idiot

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:59:14 2015 No.6993822

>>6993791
Why do i need to address? Guilt is not hereditary, and races exist but aren't significantly different from each other. You are arguing against a caricature of the left, not against the left. Which is what happens when you spend too much time in an echo chamber.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:59:24 2015 No.6993823

>>6993806
My parents grew up in soviet russia. They taught me about communism and its bullshit and I read the manifesto and marx when I was 15.

When I first heard about communism as a kid I thought "huh it sounds reasonable and good and equality is good, why not?". And then I applied critical thought after reading it and viewing the real world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 21:59:31 2015 No.6993824 >>6993815 Said by a senile old man who destroyed the economy and fucked geo politics for decades to come. here's a quote from me "95% of the shit Reagan said was full of shit"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:00:13 2015 No.6993830 >>6993810 So? $60 is nothing and Depression Quest isn't worth any amount of money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:00:19 2015 No.6993831 >>6993815 Give us the one about running out of people's money too. The sad thing is that catchy slogans is all that right wing audiences seem capable of comprehending.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:01:10 2015 No.6993835

>>6993823
>And then I applied critical thought after reading it and viewing the real world.

Yes, as a 15 year old, you applied your vast intellect over a dense academic analysis technique that is still used in most social science fields today (History, Economics, Sociology) and rendered it debunk.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:01:28 2015 No.6993838

>>6993822
What is "significantly"?

Left thought and policies agree that racism exists but claim that all races are equal besides skin very often, it's a common line in media and anyone who mentions other differences gets treated like a lunatic.

The entire western world is a leftist echo chamber.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:02:58 2015 No.6993841 >>6993835 After seeing the flaws in the soviet union and other attempts, as well as statistics about welfare programs and other such things, sure. Not sure how retarded you were at 15 but this isn't unrealistic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:03:12 2015 No.6993842 File: 172 KB, 451x377, 1434402045587.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993824 >destroyed the economy

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:04:42 2015 No.6993852 Why do leftists tend to be weaker physically and mentally?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:06:17 2015 No.6993860 >>6993838 It means we aren't different enough for me to give a fuck about races.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:07:08 2015 No.6993868 >>6993852 They typically lack discipline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:07:41 2015 No.6993871 >>6993860 What would be different enough? How different are we?

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:08:48 2015 No.6993877

>>6993824
He used his charm to reduce nuclear weapon stockpiles dramatically. He prevented a nuclear war by taking the risk of admitting he was unwilling to use nuclear weapons to the general secretary. The general secretary responded in kind and because of this they cut the warheads down from 60,000 to 2,000 or so. He also created communication channels to prevent any misunderstanding between the two countries.

Marx got millions of peasants killed for having the Wrong Opinions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:09:08 2015 No.6993880 >>6993852 Right wing=masculine males and feminine females. Left wing=feminine males and masculine females. There have even been studies showing this through facial structure.

Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:09:17 2015 No.6993881

>>6993852
The deconstruct and dismantle any higher values (aside from equality), such as honor, courage, strength, loyalty, purity, etc.

Those are all oppressive unequal things, so they must be destroyed and ridiculed, because equality is the most beautiful goddess of all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:10:18 2015 No.6993885 >>6993880 Seems about right, do you have links?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:14:10 2015 No.6993910 >>6993871 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Race+differences&btnG=&hl=es&as_sdt=0%2C5

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:43:17 2015 No.6994086 >>6986295 None of those worked tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 22:44:34 2015 No.6994094 >>6988815 >wage slave A voluntary contract is slavery?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 23:10:24 2015 No.6994235 >>6993248 the only thing funny about /mu/ is itself you'd realize how much of a normie infested shithole it is if you weren't fresh off the boat from Reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 23:11:15 2015 No.6994239 >>6993912 >deleted

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 17 23:23:54 2015 No.6994295 >>6993643 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 18 02:25:38 2015 No.6994927 File: 24 KB, 231x255, 1430964171433.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993430 >racist conservative scum well when you say racist things thats what tends to happen

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 18 02:40:11 2015 No.6994983 File: 6 KB, 154x126, 1419741193906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993589 >that woman programmer with the manface

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 18 02:42:39 2015 No.6994994 >>6993617 reading parts of the communist manifesto does not mean you've read marx

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 18 02:45:32 2015 No.6995003 >>6993637 if you think nationalism is any thing but bad you have problems

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 18 05:32:09 2015 No.6995397 >>6995003 If you think nationalism has nothing good in it you have problems.

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