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I want to read a whole philosophical book for the first time.

Which one should I choose?

>Nausea - Sartre
>The Stranger - Albert Camus
>The Birth of Tragedy from the Spirit of Music - Nietzsche

>> No.6980732

Babbys first philosophy should pribably be Meditations but if you insist on one of these, I suppose go with the Stranger because it's easiest. It isn't a true philosophical text though

>> No.6980734

None of which is adequate.

Read the sticky, start with the Greeks and grab yourself a fucking Plato.

>> No.6980737

>>6980732
Lately I've been interested in stoic philosophy, maybe I should go with Meditations then

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The Ego and its Own

>> No.6980802

I took the 'start with the Greeks' meme literally and bought Republic last week
is this a good start

>> No.6980837

>>6980802
Yes

>> No.6980843

>>6980717
Birth of Tragedy, easily. But be sure to stop reading when he starts fellating Wagner. N later denounced the last 10 or so sections

>> No.6980848

>>6980802

That meme should actually be taken seriously when it comes to philosophy. It only became a meme because every time someone would ask where to start with philosophy the answer was inevitably "Start with the Greeks."

Republic is a great read, enjoy it.

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>>6980802
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PRE SOCRATICS ASRGHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.6981003

>>6980717
None of those; instead, read Swift's Gulliver's Travels, which comments on the rise of modern political philosophy.

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>>6980717

>> No.6981010

>>6981003
Or, uh, just read Locke and Hobbes

>> No.6981014

>>6981009
Do you really love Walden? I need to know. I read it a few years ago and found it to be a solid 6/10 that meandered around a bit too long

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Some PERSPICACIOUS poster posted this PENETRATING post yesterday:

It is the perfect introduction to literature for someone who reads to gain insight. The first rung on the ladder. If you are reading to pass the time, to collect as many rungs as possible, to post pictures of your bookshelf, perhaps it will not appeal to you. Like the nauseating, mindless anonymous poster above said, it is targeted to teenagers and philistines (each and every one of you) and Thoreau confesses it himself:

>Perhaps these pages are more particularly addressed to poor students. As for the rest of my readers, they will accept such portions as apply to them. I trust that none will stretch the seams in putting on the coat, for it may do good service to him whom it fits.

But he is several steps ahead of the content of the book.

>I do not mean to prescribe rules to strong and valiant natures, who will mind their own affairs whether in heaven or hell, and perchance build more magnificently and spend more lavishly than the richest, without ever impoverishing themselves, not knowing how they live — if, indeed, there are any such, as has been dreamed; nor to those who find their encouragement and inspiration in precisely the present condition of things, and cherish it with the fondness and enthusiasm of lovers — and, to some extent, I reckon myself in this number.

Sometimes you will ask yourself "Why is he describing the plants and animals? Why should I care?" It is because he has gone beyond literature, philosophy, poetry, and language. His soul has reached higher forms that he can only express in concrete images. Walden is similar to Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Something similar to poetry but for people not shackled to effeminate emotions. If you live in North America, I would recommend purchasing A Guide to Field Identification Birds of North America (1965) as secondary literature. Walden might open a new world for you. It is definitely worth reading, especially if it leads to Emerson.

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>>6981014
>>6981035
>>6979554
>>6979572
>>6979636
>>6979622

>> No.6981050

The Stranger

>Camus is my daddy

>> No.6981054

Birth of Tragedy

>> No.6981058

>>6981014
Different guy here.

I like Walden a lot.

I mostly just thought it was a fun read.

I particularly loved the bit describing the ant battle.

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>>6980802
no

>> No.6981068

>>6981035
b-but you posted that >>/lit/thread/6977603

>> No.6981072

>>6980802
>skipped the pre-socratics
>skipped Plato's other dialogues and went straight to the Republic

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>>6981068
Oh, check it out. There's me. And all of my fabulousness. Oh yeah. Twiggy. Ha ha ha ha ha. I am so awesome.

>> No.6981099

>>6980717
Just dive right into the Critique of Pure Reason friend :^)

>> No.6981106

>>6981035
Great chart tbh but now I guess I gotta kill myself

>> No.6981114

>>6981064
I intend to go back to Homer before moving on to Aristotle
probably won't read anything else on that chart though tbh

>> No.6981115

>>6981035
Lmao

>> No.6982035

I'm pretty much in the same spot as OP - just starting to read some philosophy. Read Meditations, the Stranger and am now reading Russell's "History of Western Philosophy" and after I'm done I'll read "The Problems of Philosophy".

Is this a decent way to get into it?

>> No.6982042

READ PROTAGORAS YOU FUCKING MEME, NO NOT THE DIALOGUE, THE REAL