Anti-authoritarian authors

[Anonymous No.6977355]

I love this man and his work. Does anyone have recommendations for writers of a similar bent? I have yet to read works by Hunter S. Thompson (outside of the article he wrote right after 9/11) but I plan to.

(I read the sticky but I think this topic deserves a place in /lit/ as opposed to the shitfest that is /pol/, and I want to keep the discussion on authors and not about politics)

[Anonymous No.6977794]

>>6977355
Classical liberals, Enlightenment philosophers (Voltaire, Rousseau, etc), and libertarians. Even if you disagree with their politics, they're really big on the freedom stuff.

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" Patrick Henry

FUCK YEAH

[Anonymous No.6977805]

>>6977355
>>6977355
Try asking on /leftypol/ . Dont know if thats what you are lookimg for, but: grapes of wrath, the dispossessed, pavese fenoglio and Calvino,

[Anonymous No.6978594]

>>6977355
>Socialist
>anti-authoritarian

Kek

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.6978597]

>>6978594
18 and over board, junior.

[Anonymous No.6978661]

>>6978594
>not socialist
>anti-authoritarian

[Anonymous No.6978776]

Arendt
Fromm
Koestler
Adorno and the Fagfurt School


See you tomorrow for your next round of obscurantist truth-loathing shitpostan.

[Anonymous No.6978793]

>>6978776
>obscurantist
>any of the authors you suggested

Are you sure you're not just illiterate?

[Anonymous No.6979375]

don't forget pinecone

[Anonymous No.6979454]

>>6977355
Koestler

[Anonymous No.6979524]

barthes tbh

[Anonymous No.6979553]

>>6978793
You probably think "obscurantist" has to do with "big words", you philistine.

[Anonymous No.6979618]

>>6977355
Read more Gore Vidal!

[Anonymous No.6979832]

[Anonymous No.6979849]

>>6977355
basically all 'good' authors(yeah I'm def not getting into this but if you made this thread this definition will do for you lel) are anti-authoritarian, it's more about reading between the lines I guess

[Anonymous No.6979872]

I think it's funny and sad when you see 'new left' kiddies referencing Orwell and in their next breath wanting to arrest people for crimethink

[Anonymous No.6979875]

>>6979832
he was very anti-Pinochet, that's for sure

[Anonymous No.6979885]

>>6979872
B-but racism and transphobia are evil and need to be stopped!

[Anonymous No.6979894]

>>6979872
do you know what the new left is?

[Anonymous No.6979899]

>>6979894
yes
what I said applies

[Anonymous No.6979965]

>>6979899
No, mate, you're a fucking ignorant cunt. The new left ceased in 1975. Which author from the new left are you specifically thinking of?

[Anonymous No.6979975]

>>6979965
I think the bloke you're talking to just meant the new left, not the new left.

[Anonymous No.6979985]

>>6979965
the current left (what would you call it?) were raised by the new left

[Anonymous No.6979991]

>>6979975
Well the British new left ended around 1965

[Anonymous No.6979995]

>>6979991
But I think that guy just meant the new left, not the new left.

[Anonymous No.6980006]

>>6979995
there is no "new left" at the moment.

[Anonymous No.6980007]

>>6979995
wait, the new left? or the left that is new aka new left

[Anonymous No.6980012]

>>6979985
>the current left (what would you call it?) were raised by the new left

No. They weren't. They were raised by radfem, sepfem, hollowed out social democrats, foucauldians, tankies-turned-ecologist and, as in the previous list, a bunch of liberal vegan brownbread eating homophile middle class oiks.

[Anonymous No.6980028]

>>6980007
The new left, the current crop of left wing retards.

[Anonymous No.6980032]

what would /lit/ call the current left?

[Anonymous No.6980042]

>>6980032
Stupid.

[Anonymous No.6980108]

>>6980032
Bourgeois liberals.

[Anonymous No.6980134]

>>6980032
Jewish puppets.

[Anonymous No.6980222]

I read a lot of murricans talk about the new left as some postmodernist sjw idiots.
The other day i saw a pic of the protest in ferguson in my local newspaper. Some guy was holding a sign with a website written on it. I followed the link and it was a communist party website. The first couple of articles were about how both black and white workers are oppressed by capitalists and are comrades, and attacking the notion of white privilege.

I don't know how representative they are of the left in america, but they sounded like the "old" left to me.

[Anonymous No.6980233]

>>6979872
You do realize that Orwell was a socialist right?

[Anonymous No.6980234]

>>6980222
>I saw this one guy holding a sign
nice evidence
the old left didn't die, it has reached its natural conclusion

[Anonymous No.6980239]

>>6980233
{paraphrase}Had I gone to Catalonia and learnt about the political tendencies I would have joined the FAI/CNT columns, but I went on an ILP sponsorship and so joined the POUM{paraphrase}

[Anonymous No.6980244]

>>6980222
>I don't know how representative they are of the left in america, but they sounded like the "old" left to me.
They're representative of the old and the new left. But not the current bourgeois liberal trend amongst rich undergraduates.

[Anonymous No.6980246]

>>6980233
that was my point

[Anonymous No.6980303]

>>6979885
The world will be a better place if we just hate the right things this time!

[Anonymous No.6980306]

>>6979618

This.

[Anonymous No.6980309]

>>6980012

This comrade knows.

So much truth it hurts.

[Anonymous No.6980348]

>>6980246
You know orwell was bourgeois, right?

[Anonymous No.6980351]

>>6980309
Join the union. You know which one. _THE_ union.

[Anonymous No.6980640]

>>6980351
The World Jewish Congress? Judaism? What!! Tell me!

[Anonymous No.6980758]

>>6978597
>understands you can't be anti-authoritarian and socialist. Must be a child.
How's high school toots.

[Anonymous No.6980770]

Authoritarian: JRR Tolkien
Anti-autoritarian: George RR Martin

[Anonymous No.6980774]

>>6980348
and the university students popping estrogen pills and advocating for "hate speech" laws aren't?

[Anonymous No.6980804]

Orwell went to Eton, lived in the exclusive rural idyll of shiplake (pictured), was a racist colonial policeman who went out of his way to shoot endangered elephants, spied on British communists for MI6, smelled like shit because of his lungs and is falling permanently out of fashion.

[Anonymous No.6980809]

>>6980804
I missed

[Anonymous No.6980821]

>>6979872
>Criticizing bigotry means banning it

Free speech still means you suffer the social consequences of being a douchebag. You faggots do these sort of mental gymnastics to try and make any argument against systematic discrimination sound like Jim Crow in reverse, branding even mild center-left criticism of the status quo without any revolutionary violence as "thought policing" or "gender warfare". Of course, the absence of this horrible social conflict is just ignoring the issues you don't want to talk about.

[Anonymous No.6980828]

>>6980774
I have never seen a mass protest or petition in favor of hate speech laws. In any case, these laws generally deal with incitement to violence, which is illegal whether it's racially charged or not, yet I didn't see you complaining about that.

[Anonymous No.6980865]

>>6980821
and I'm talking about legal consequences, not social ones
>>6980828
people protested when the Australian government wanted to repeal hate speech laws

my university is legitimately having a debate on whether free speech should be allowed on campus
stop pretending like it's a non issue

[Anonymous No.6980917]

>>6980865
>and I'm talking about legal consequences, not social ones

There aren't many. 90% of the examples that anti-SJWs call "banning", like getting GTA V removed from Kmart, were privately petitioned and agreed on by a private company. The suspension of that dude from Duck Dynasty for being a homophobe was also a private decision. Even when it comes to actual bans, like Hotline Miami 2 in Australia, people just assume the review board is SJW without considering of how conservative-leaning the legislature and judiciary are as a whole, and how much more ban-ready they are for sexually explicit media.

>people protested when the Australian government wanted to repeal hate speech laws

They protested in opposition to nationalist and anti-Islamic protests that were going on. There was violence, but both sides were participants. In any case, the speech is question that was complained against was street harassment on the basis of things like ethnicity. Laws already exist against verbally abusing people in public, I heard no complaints about it until the bigoted nature of some harassment was brought to attention.

>my university is legitimately having a debate on whether free speech should be allowed on campus
>stop pretending like it's a non issue

All societies regulate speech to some extent. Where we draw the boundary of "free speech" is a legitimate issue, but public discussion of it is generally over simplified and caricatured. There are more options than either being able to legally shout "fire" in a crowded theater, or living under totalitarian rule. When certain groups of people often experience harassment at university, the institution has every right to penalize students who are members for violating the rules of conduct.

[Anonymous No.6980930]

>>6980917
>There aren't many.
maybe in America, much of the developed world has arbitrary hate speech laws that have been used to imprison
>They protested in opposition to nationalist and anti-Islamic protests that were going on
I'm talking about the 18C protests
>When certain groups of people often experience harassment at university
this isn't what's happening and this isn't what they're debating about

[Anonymous No.6980945]

Ernst Jünger is a nice parallel to Orwell. a radical anti-authoritarian yet not left-wing in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.6980980]

>>6980917
coercing private citizens' opinions by hitting them in their wallets by targeting their publishers/producers because those publishers/producers are giant megacorporations who are terrified of ANY bad public relations is cowardice and anti-free speech. just because it's not a government legislating or mandating against duck dynasty hating faggots or blacks or whatever doesn't mean it isn't barbarism.

governments are ephemeral abstractions. what really matters is a culture. when your culture is filled with people whose reaction to someone holding private, trivial beliefs they disagree with is to try to get that person fired, you're in trouble. that is fundamentally an attempt to police thought and impose conformity by coercion. it's the equivalent of me stopping you from making the posts you're making right now because i know where you work and can harass your employer.

hiding behind the excuse that it's still free speech!!! no one is lobbying the government to attack duck dynasty's free speech!!! is literally what 17 year old girls on tumblr do when they're defending imposing their opinions on others. it's cultural barbarism. the only civilised thing to do when you hear something that offends and annoys you is to smile and maybe ask to hear more.

[Twiggy !!ErZLYHNhXgZ No.6980996]

Christopher Hitchens. Paul Wolfowitz. The liberation of Iraq was a noble enterprise. How dare anyone say otherwise.