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are Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Inherent Vice the only halfway decent novels about psychedelic drugs and/or hippies? Vineland is okay but its not really the same. I haven't read Island by Huxley but that deals with psychedelics doesn't it? I have Been Down so Long it Looks Like Up to Me but haven't started it yet.

If anyone could recommend some stuff along those lines that isn't pure trash that would be great. I'd also be interested in dark and strange little tales about basically degenerates getting into trouble with drug use included, like Knockemstiff by Donald Ray Pollock or (if anyone's read it) South of the Pump House by Les Claypool (yes, of Primus).

So yeah can we have a thread about trippy novels or outcasts of modern society stirring up shit? I personally don't care at all about junkie stories but I'm sure others do so feel free to post that as well.

>> No.6976926

bump

>> No.6976990

>>6976768
flash or the great journey charles duchaussois (not sure its translated)

>> No.6977027

this is some palahniuk-tier shit, you filthy pleb

>> No.6977029

>>6976768
William S. Burroughs stuff?

I've seen Huxley's Doors of Perception recommended.

>> No.6977682

>>6977029
>Burroghs

Oh yeah I'm just dying to read about musty assholes and heroin

>Doors
Not a novel, but I had a discussion with a buddy about it last night.

>> No.6977982

>>6976768

ive heard 'the electric koolaid acid test' is good, havent read it tho

>> No.6978239

Though not exactly novels, PIKAL and TIKAL are pretty good

>> No.6978290

>>6977682
As opposed to musty armpits and LSD? Hippies were dirty as fuck, you know.

>> No.6978307

>>6978290
To each their own
Calm your nerves, butt spelunker :^)

>> No.6978946

>>6976768
Hell, no. "Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up to Me"!

>> No.6978963

PIHKAL is pretty much mandatory read, same with Doors of Perception and Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.

You may also dig Naked Lunch, it's not about psychedelic drugs but heroin instead and it's really trippy to read

>> No.6979490

slouching towards bethlehem, brah

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>>6978963
>>6978239
I've read parts of these as well as the spirit molecule but trip reports get boring when you're in the life. Novels or stories is what I'm hoping to uncover. There have to be at least a couple more worth reading, I would think.

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>>6977982
It's extremely dry, is the thing. Tom Wolfe has this unique quality of being able to reduce the scene of a van full of people blasting music taking acid and playing in a lake and distilling it down to the excitement of watching paint dry.
>>6978290
moe. concerts have a very unique scent :^)

>> No.6979865

>>6976768
Trainspotting you twat.

>> No.6981019

>>6979865
Trainspotting is about heroin yeah? But it has the degenerates going around stirring up shit, right? I've always been a little curious but never prioritized it.

>> No.6981030

>>6976768
Island is perhaps the best book

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>> No.6981098

Why is substance use such a large and growing part of our culture?

I tend to think it's because unless you have a real calling, some sort of life's work that occupies most of your time, and the completion of which may benefit the many (which clearly most do not) life in a peaceful society is fucking boring.

In such a reality the only thing the appeal of which does not wear off after some time becomes an altered state of consciousness.

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>>6981037
Hey thanks. Anyone else have some personal recomendations?
>>6981098
Idk I just like to get wrecked at rock shows. To quote Pidgeons Playing Ping Pong
>I don't ever want to go to sleep, I just wanna keep on groovin'
>I'll take anything that you won't keep, anything that keeps me movin'
>Kicked the day off with Luce and Mary Jane, got me feelin too fine
>Bumped into some keta-molly-caine, washed it down with moon
>Melting lights on the walls I think I'm losin' my mind ya'll

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>>6981900
Moonshine*

>> No.6981944

>>6976768
A Scanner Darkly is a p. good drug novel. It's way better than most of PKD's other stuff because it mirrors his real-life experiences being surrounded by drug addicts (and temporarily being one himself).

>> No.6982248

>>6981944
Is it worth reading if I've seen the movie?

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>mfw my old friends are all burnout faggots who waste all their money on shitty bands with overproduced lightshows in an attempt to mask the real reason they're there: drugs

Music festivals have been, and always will be, Jewish cash grabs. The music is terrible, the people are fucking retarded(and usually out of their mind on drugs) and the toilets literally have mountains of shit in them ascending over the rim. You can say 'no fun allowed' or 'le fedora' but if you attend these smelly millennial shitfests, you're likely braindead from research chemicals and have sterilized opinions anyway.

Umphrey's McGee is decent. Everything else is pretty fucking bad.

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>DID YOU KNOW METAL IS THE MOST DIFFICULT GENRE TO PLAYY LMAO

>> No.6982766

Read VALIS by Phillip K. Dick. It's about his own life and schizophrenia and psychedelic drug abuse but written as a semi-fictional alter-ego.

>> No.6983496

so I guess PKD novels it is. Has anyone reas Voices from the Street? I have never heard anyone mention it and its the only one I have. I do like all of the short stories I've read a lot.

I read a story by JG Ballard a couple of days ago about subliminal signs in cities driving waste and consumption to astronomical proportions that reminded me a lot of PKDs short stuff.

>> No.6983501

>>6976768
Naked lunch is really good.

>> No.6983758

>>6979863
Oh fuck off
>>6977982
Eletric Koolaid Acid Test is an entertaining read especially if you know the histories if the people involved. The MC of On the Road is heavily involved and Hunter S Thompson shows up at one point. Its mandatory for understanding the 60s properly because those Acid Tests created the hippie culture by converting the New Left. Or rather, New Left kids got tired got tired of politics and copied the Acid Tests folks. It also has alotta interesting tidbits about the failed Hippie/Hells Angel alliance

>> No.6983808

>>6981944
seconding this
>>6982248
hell yeah

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>>6983758
That doesn't make the writing or the scenes in the book interesting or fun. Also I find it highly suspicious a govt test subject somehow has a very difficult to make chemical coming out the ass and the government just found out acid makes organized groups of people into giggling idiots via military tests.

May as well trot out my full tinfoil theory: Keysey's acid tests are responsible for The Grateful Dead getting started, acid and music effectively nuetralized the political hippie movement, the year jerry died is convieniently the year Phish started to really take off, The Dead have US Blues: "I'm uncle sam/that's who I am/Been hiding out/In a rock and roll band".

I truly believe the CIA or whoever employed acid and jazz rock jam music to neutralize hippies. We know they meddled in postmodern art. We know they messed with crack-cocaine and run shop on opium today. I don't think it's very far fetched and again Keysey was a test subject and then suddenly has the complex, hard to make chemical coming out of his ass. It's very odd, even if I love the culture.

I still think The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is about as exciting as running out of beer.

>> No.6984170

>>6976768
>I have Been Down so Long it Looks Like Up to Me

Isn't that a Doors song? God, Morrison was a good singer