/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6972435]

computers

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3guvzy/iam_john_greenauthor_of_paper_towns_cocreator_of/

[Anonymous No.6972495]

>>6972435
>that shirt
You know despite writing utter shite I have to thank John Green for making qt tumblr girls listen to/pretend to like stuff like The Mountain Goats and Neutral Milk Hotel so I can blather on about those bands at parties, even if I subsequently fail to pick them up

[Anonymous No.6972547]

This actually happened to a lady who is a close family friend. At one point, she worked at a convalescent home; not just for old people either. It was for folks who were a little nuts and couldn't take care of themselves. One lady there has this disorder. She thinks EVERYTHING is food, as in she'd eat her dinner and then start trying to eat the napkins. As you can guess, she ended up morbidly obese. She was too fat for the showers, so they had to take her out back and hose her down like an elephant. Since she was so fat, she had a lot of rolls, and they couldn't get everywhere. Now, one day the family friend is making her rounds of the complex, and was stopped by this dude in a wheelchair. He mumbles something at her. "Bitch stole my Doritos..." "What?" "That fat lady stole my Doritos and SHE WON'T GIVE 'EM BACK!" "Okay, okay, calm down. I'll get your chips back for you." She goes into the fat lady's room. She's in their with the chips and nothing else. Buck naked, with her legs spread. There's this thick almost gelatinous discharge in the fat lady's vagina. And she's dipping the chips. And eating it. With that cheese drip on pizza stretch effect. She apparently had this big smile as it dripped down her chin.

[Anonymous No.6972588]

Hi my name is John Green and I am a beautiful woman. Here is my novel it is called Formulaic Shit For Retarded Girls. Here is my YouTube it is called me and my brother talk about stupid shit and I need to be hanged. Here is my other YouTube show called crash course where I omit everything that doesn't fit my biases and poop on history. Haha poop.

Haha poop.

AMA

[Anonymous No.6972594]

>I feel this way all the time. People often use the phrase "literally the worst" colloquially, but I have on countless occasions felt that I am literally the worst writer on Earth, and that I am a complete fraud. I feel like a fraud all the time, and I still don't feel like I know how to write a novel, and at this point I doubt I ever will.

At least he knows

[Anonymous No.6972750]

> open link
> scroll down a bit
> 'What's the most important life advice you have ever received?'
> "Stop trying to show me how good a writer you are and just tell me a fucking story."

that's great advice, I'm honestly gald I looked

[Anonymous No.6972777]

>>6972750
Hurrr plot over prose

[Anonymous No.6972782]

>>6972588
sam hyde quit viral

[Anonymous No.6972783]

>>6972777

even a novel with great prose needs to have a relatable human story at the heart of it. All the best writers do.

[Anonymous No.6972920]

>I called Looking for Alaska "Pinaple," for a long time, which stood for "Proving I'm Not A Pontificating Literary Esthete."

[Anonymous No.6972932]

>>6972777
nice trips

eeeh I guess it needs to be a nice balancing act between the two. good concept, good execution and presentation.

[Anonymous No.6972960]

>>6972435
>a grown man using the word "awesomeness"

[Anonymous No.6972967]

>>6972594
Oh wow, he actually said that, and he has an anxiety disorder. I wondered for a moment, if all this shit is an act and he's 'one of us' of sorts. I really doubt that, but I have way more respect for him now, after he admitted he's shit. At least he's a normal guy, not a deluded idiot.

[Anonymous No.6972979]

>>6972435
>be john green
>write greentext

[Anonymous No.6972985]

reminder

>i bet john green thinks people don’t like him because he’s a “dork” or a nerd or whatever

>when in reality it’s because he’s a creep who panders to teenage girls so that he can amass some weird cult-like following. and it’s always girls who feel misunderstood, you know, and he goes out of his way to make them feel important and desirable. which is fucking? weird?

>also he has a social media presence that is equivalent to that dad of a kid in your friend group who always volunteers to “supervise” the pool parties and scoots his lawn chair close to all the girls.

http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/post/121316109713/mattcatashpole-astro1995

[Anonymous No.6973021]

Why do you hate John Green? Is it jealousy? Do you wish you could be content writing YA like he does?

[Anonymous No.6973028]

>>6972588
Vlog brothers and crash course are good you dipshit.

[Anonymous No.6973032]

>>6972435
He and his brother offend my sensibilities, but I gotta say, there are much worse role models out there for teenagers.

[Anonymous No.6973033]

>>6973028
if you like people to paraphrase wikipedia articles at you in a condescending tone, sure

[Anonymous No.6973040]

>>6973021
idk when I came here I had no clue who he was, but ppl obsess over him here worse than reddit.

probably that kid Dillon making these threads. you just namedrop James Joyce like he's god and then badmouth John Green and it makes New Money feel like Old Money

[Anonymous No.6973050]

Daily reminder that John Green is a millionaire who has thousands of 18 year old girls begging him to choke on his cock

[Anonymous No.6973058]

>wants to slap a consumption tax on lower income blacks and tax the middle class to pay wealthy foreign dictators in kebab countries.

John Green confirmed for racist cuck.

[Anonymous No.6973067]

>>6973058
holy fuck he literally wants America to become cucked like Europe is. This coming from a European

[Anonymous No.6973090]

/pol/ and /lit/ share a common goal. Join forces to give this brainwashing cuck the Ben Garrison treatment.

>>>/pol/49636049

[Anonymous No.6973095]

>>6973058
OK can I just say

Making education benefits merit based has been PROVEN to encourage teachers to cheat in the Chicago studies in 1990. Teachers will write in better scores and it got so bad in California that they took out this merit based system. What a fucking hack, I thought this was common knowledge by now. Don't listen to this guy's social policies please

[Anonymous No.6973103]

>>6972495
To any musician you are the equivalent of a John Green reader.

[Anonymous No.6973111]

>>6973058
>Nerdfighteria
I think that's the worst part. All this cringe-inducing Nerdfighter shit, a grown man who almost daily says Don't forget the be awesome is truly pathetic. And all the awful teenager with their cult of personality based around him

[Anonymous No.6973115]

>>6973050
You just activated half of /lit/izens aspie mode. I hope you're happy with yourself.

[Anonymous No.6973120]

>>6973058
>How do we help our struggling middle class as well as the poor trying to elevate themselves to middle class
>We raise taxes on the middle class and send the money overseas
>Brilliant

[Anonymous No.6973121]

>>6973058
He's not going to be president.
The content of his post doesn't matter, only insofar as he panders to his audience and raises audience pussy (he can never act upon). I don't know what he really thinks, but he did exactly what helps him more. In the short time, in any case.

[Anonymous No.6973126]

>>6973058
>Send money overseas to help Americans.

[Anonymous No.6973135]

>>6973103
ITAOTS is a goddamn masterpiece

[Anonymous No.6973140]

>>6973135
>ITAOTS is a goddamn meme
Fixed your typo, friend

[Anonymous No.6973142]

>>6973058
how do people not see this is simply bait for his edgy teenage marxist "why don't we just give everyone money?" audience?

[Anonymous No.6973143]

>>6973135
UUUUUHGGGGHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6973147]

>>6973058

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3guvzy/iam_john_greenauthor_of_paper_towns_cocreator_of/

Here's the link. /pol/ has our back. Get em.

[Anonymous No.6973150]

>>6973140
Sure is, doesn't mean it's not one of the greatest pieces of popular music ever released.
>>6973143
Pleb.

[Anonymous No.6973152]

>>6973143
sometimes, once in a while, actually good things get meme'd.

[Anonymous No.6973154]

>>6973150
/mu/ pls get the fuck outta here

You're all plebs

[Anonymous No.6973156]

>>6973150
>one of the greatest pieces of popular music ever released
No. It's mediocre and generic.

[Anonymous No.6973158]

>>6973152
Like Ulysses and GR which only became memes due to their notorious difficulty

[Anonymous No.6973161]

>>6973147

To arms!

[Anonymous No.6973162]

>>6973058
>to pay wealthy foreign dictators in kebab countries.
are you actually denying the worth of foreign aid

[Anonymous No.6973163]

>>6973156
This

[Anonymous No.6973165]

>>6972495
>The Mountain Goats and Neutral Milk Hotel
They're already tumblr tier hipster bands anon. He's just trying to appeal to slutty teenage feminists, which is his entire image and career.

[Anonymous No.6973166]

>>6973147
what is this, 2006? what's with the raid bullshit?

knock it off and go read some fucking literature.

[Anonymous No.6973168]

>>6973165
I'm saying he helped establish their appeal to tumblr girls

[Anonymous No.6973190]

>I have not given that much thought.
I do think there's a chance that you're overstating my success / the length of cultural memory. Like, the bestselling American novel of 1945 was Forever Amber by Kathleen Winsor, and I don't think Ms. Winsor's grandchildren think of themselves primarily as the descendent of the great Kathleen Winsor.
Art has a life just like anything else does, and I am ridiculously lucky that my work has been read and viewed by so many people. But I'm trying to work for and with people who are here now, and not for people of some distant time whose lives I cannot imagine. If I get lucky enough that something I do resonates with those hypothetical future people, that will be great. But I think it's far more likely that I will go the way of Kathleen Winsor, which is okay too.

At least hes self-aware

[Anonymous No.6973199]

>>6973166

No

[Anonymous No.6973203]

>>6973199
i want to ask him if he would eat a bowl of cheerios someone has fucked

[Anonymous No.6973208]

>>6973147
>Go on my reddit account
>say some dumb shit to John 'I like 'em 16' Green
>He probably ignores it
>In typical echo chamber fashion, my /pol/friends up vote it and we laugh about it in our thread
Awesome raid

[Anonymous No.6973221]

>>6973199
Ask him if he would share his bowl of cheerios.

[Anonymous No.6973224]

"...I have on countless occasions felt that I am literally the worst writer on Earth, and that I am a complete fraud. I feel like a fraud all the time, and I still don't feel like I know how to write a novel, and at this point I doubt I ever will." - John Green

[Anonymous No.6973228]

>>6972547
is that from a fucking john green book???

[Anonymous No.6973229]

>>6973224
Literally feigned humility.

[Anonymous No.6973237]

>>6973224
why do you cut off the part where he says he means literally literally?

[Anonymous No.6973280]

>>6973058
>a fucking consumption tax of 10%
Holy shit Green, way to destroy the middle class and rape the poor, you asshole.

[Anonymous No.6973293]

>>6973280
It's highly possible he's just never heard of a progressive tax.

[Anonymous No.6973294]

Tbh he is responding fairly well and I agree with most of his points, especially the ones pertaining to Harper Lee. He doesn't appear to pretend to be something he isn't.
Doesn't seem self-important.

Honestly, seems a good guy. Shit writer but good guy.

[Anonymous No.6973333]

>>6973028
>Crash Course is good
the science videos are pretty good tbh
but the history videos are bad on american standards

[Anonymous No.6973338]

>confirmed for pedo

[Anonymous No.6973339]

>>6973058
Filthy lefty here
>raising taxes
I'm not opposed it there is good reason
>foreign aid
I'm not American, but US has enough poverty in its own borders
>nasa
Insignificant compared to the problems being faced by American citizens. Liberal bourgeois fuck.
>increase teacher pay
Only if money is also spend on regular training and upskilling programs
>merit based
Awful, awful idea
>consumption tax
No, rich are barely touched and poor get fucked over.
Man has no idea how government/economics works.

[Anonymous No.6973349]

>>6973339

/lit/ is the most left board on 4chan you retard

[Anonymous No.6973353]

>>6973028
I haven't seen many of them but the history ones on the greeks and alexander were shit and rife with inaccuracies and skewed facts to support some weird narrative.

The Odyssey video was so dumb I think even high school students could pull a better interpretation out of their ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4jk5kavy4

[Anonymous No.6973363]

>>6973228
Yeah, paper towns

[Anonymous No.6973367]

>>6973349
I am aware of that, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered posting.

[Anonymous No.6973371]

>>6973367
I share my conservative opinions here all the time lad
Just b urself

[Anonymous No.6973372]

>>6973367

>filthy lefty here
>maybe if I just say it I won't get that much flak
>on a board for leftists

[Anonymous No.6973375]

>>6973371
thx bby gurl

[Anonymous No.6973379]

>>6973353
seriously, the bulk of his commentary is
>waaahhh he was mean to girls ( -̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄◞ω◟-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅ )

[Anonymous No.6973395]

>>6973338
He was a patrician all along.

[Anonymous No.6973420]

>>6973058
JUST

[Anonymous No.6973475]

Guys. John Green is David Foster Wallace, he assumed an alter ego after faking his death so he could avoid the pressures of serious writing. After having elaborate surgery (although you can still see a resemblance), he took on the name 'John Green', and spends a few weeks a year churning out low-quality YA novels, then the rest of the year vacationing on the money he earns. Notice how his 'Wallace' books and his 'Green' books are super autistic and pedantic?

[Anonymous No.6973733]

>>6973156
I AM GOING TO FUCKING MURDER YOU FUCKHEAD

[Anonymous No.6973882]

>>6973058
How does this guy even wake up in the goddamn morning without choking on his own spittle?

[Anonymous No.6973899]

>>6973165
I can't see NMH really going over that well on tumblr. It just feels like they'd say lyrics like "semen stains the mountaintops" or "your father made fetuses with fleshlicking ladies" are offensive or misogynistic or trigger them or some shit.

[Anonymous No.6973906]

>>6973147
>/pol/ has our back

[Anonymous No.6973920]

>redditor for over 4 years

[Anonymous No.6973931]

>>6973899
Their last song was literally involves beating a little kid to death for being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.6973951]

It's funny how most of 4chan thinks reddit is SJW home base and how actual SJW home base thinks reddit is stormfront.

Half 15 year old Ron Paul supporters and half 15 year old Bernie Sanders supporters is the truth.

[Anonymous No.6974369]

>>6973951
It's closet racists pretending to be tolerant, just like the rest of America.

[Anonymous No.6974556]

>>6973028

Only watched his Odyssey video.

It's the most retarded interpretation of the Odyssey I've read heard. II'd don't have a problem with feminist interpretations of the Odyssey, I've read and enjoyed several. However they've been written by scholars who actually know what they're talking about and don't pretend that Ancient Greece was the same culturally as the modern west.

He shouldn't fucking write about things he was no fucking clue about.

[Anonymous No.6976287]

He doesn't deserve the hate you guys give him tbh

[Anonymous No.6976297]

>>6973028
found the pleb

[Anonymous No.6976319]

>>6973349
I don't think that is necessarily true

[Anonymous No.6976354]

>>6973095
>>6973339

So, if merit is a no-no, what is the alternative?

[Anonymous No.6976405]

>>6974556
>feminist interpretations of the Odyssey
>written by scholars who actually know what they're talking about

[Anonymous No.6976428]

>>6976405
Well yeah a lot of literary critics are feminist. My Classical Myth professor spoke Ancient Greek and Latin. She was feminist but she also had fun with the material and didn't rant/rave about the treatment of women.

[Anonymous No.6976559]

>>6976428
>Well yeah a lot of literary critics are feminist.
Maybe nowadays because after the actual, substantive literary criticism has already been written, contemporary critics have to justify their existence and so they view things through Marxist or feminist lenses and are always on the lookout for new, similar memes. People can only write about Hamlet so many times before they start looking for transphobia or genderfluidity in some retarded attempt to break new ground.
>She was feminist
>she
Who would have thought.

[Anonymous No.6976567]

>>6976559
What's the matter, timmy? Did a feminist not accept your slobbering dog style of courtship so now you look down on them? What was her name?

[Anonymous No.6976581]

>>6976567
>Did a feminist not accept your slobbering dog style of courtship
Yes. And now I'll forever be without the lovely company of her overweight, buzzcutted, hairy body.

There is literally zero reason for a man to support feminism. The ones that do are, in general, weaklings who believe that such supplication is their ticket to vagina-land.

[Anonymous No.6976605]

>>6972435
>mfw 'how does it feel to be an actual meme' gets deleted without being answered

[Anonymous No.6976665]

>>6976581
And yet you're still a virgin

[Anonymous No.6976680]

>>6976665
The classic feminist put-down. I've gotten laid in my life and it wasn't due to impressing women with my dedication to wage parity or how passionate I am in getting more women into male-dominated spheres of employment. It was because I acted like a mannerless boor and this gives the lie to the entire ill-conceived ideology.

[Anonymous No.6976732]

>>6976680
>once in my life
ftfy
>acted like a mannerless boor
Getting drunk and using a fleshlight to masturbate to your waifu isn't getting laid

[Anonymous No.6977032]

>>6973095
Just fire the teachers who cheat

oh wait unions lmao

[Anonymous No.6977038]

>>6973339
>US has enough poverty in its own borders

[Anonymous No.6977039]

>>6976665
>feminists weaponise male sexuality
>wonder why rape culture exists

[Anonymous No.6977056]

>>6976665
>stop shaming promiscuous women for their sexual habits, you virgin
E V E R Y T I M E

[Anonymous No.6977062]

Has anyone confronted him on the obvious pandering, formulaic plot, cringe dialogue, mediocre prose and tryhard 'deep' meanings in his books, and why he should be receiving praise for nothing really noteworthy other than popularity? (which of course, doesn't correlate to quality at all)

[Anonymous No.6977087]

>>6973906
This tbh. /pol/ can go fuck itself.

[Anonymous No.6977089]

>>6977039
>>6977056
>they took the b8

[Anonymous No.6977098]

>>6977089
>he took the reverse b8

[Anonymous No.6977099]

>>6973156
>[ITAOTS] is 1) mediocre and 2) generic.

[Anonymous No.6977110]

>>6976581
>literally zero reasons for a man to support feminism
Well sure, except for
-draft pool twice as large
-women get sentenced as harshly as men
-men have a chance of getting child custody in a divorce
etc.
In conclusion, you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.6977118]

>>6977098
>he fell for the dreaded triple b8
It's b8 all the way down m8

[Anonymous No.6977124]

>>6977110

Feminism argues for none of those things because they see gender equality in black and white terms; women are faced with things they can't have, men aren't. Mentioning any of those things has them jumping through hoops about how it doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.6977128]

>>6977124
>i'm grabbing all the b8 that i can

[Anonymous No.6977148]

>>6977110
Not only are none of those things a reality, they're not wanted by at least 90% of feminists.

[Anonymous No.6977195]

>>6977118
>actually falling for the quadruple b8

[Anonymous No.6977245]

>>6977195
>do i even need to say it

[Anonymous No.6977283]

>>6972594
That small paragraph gave me more feels than I imagine any of his novels ever would.

[Anonymous No.6977388]

>>6977245
>mfw bait all the way down

[Anonymous No.6977393]

>>6977099
There are literally hundreds of "indie" (synonym for talentless) bands that sound exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.6977593]

>>6977393
>"indie" = "tasteless"
pleb

[Anonymous No.6977607]

>>6977593
kys

[Anonymous No.6977684]

>>6973951
>Half 15 year old Ron Paul supporters and half 15 year old Bernie Sanders supporters is the truth.

So true.

[Anonymous No.6977689]

>>6973951
tumblr is the den of SJWs. even with their pockets of nationalist idiots

[Anonymous No.6977690]

>>6976581
>There is literally zero reason for a man to support feminism.

How about because you don't want to be an asshole?

[Anonymous No.6977691]

>>6977690
nice false dichotomy

[Anonymous No.6977695]

>>6977691
Wanting to keep women oppressed makes you an asshole.

[Anonymous No.6977713]

>>6977695
nice false dichotomy

[Anonymous No.6977716]

>>6977148
>>6977124
I mean, if we're discussing a strawman version of feminism that doesn't exist, then yes, what you've said is true. But the reality is that the overwhelming majority of feminists support most of what I've listed. (I'll concede the draft thing, for some reason every feminist I talk to protests the moment I say that they should have to register for the selective service.)

[Anonymous No.6977731]

>>6977713
lol

[Anonymous No.6977753]

>>6977716
>I'll concede the draft thing, for some reason every feminist I talk to protests the moment I say that they should have to register for the selective service
Then why suggest it as truth to begin with?

Feminism is about females getting the same "privileges" as men (the idea that we're privileged over women is dubious at best) with none of the drawbacks. Feminists are only concerned with themselves and rather don't care that men kill themselves more often than women, that they live shorter lives, that academically they're actually behind women, and a whole host of other issues which privilege women over men. Every feminist alive is the product of either misinformation or haven't had someone to lay them the pipe properly for some time.

[Anonymous No.6977883]

>>6977753
Because they don't balk at being drafted due to a desire to be more priveleged than men, they balk at the idea of anyone being drafted, and thus don't want to register at all, preferring to see the selective service done away with entirely instead. So really, they do want equality, and your conception of feminism is a fantasy.

[Anonymous No.6978618]

Do I start with the Greeks or the Greens?

[Anonymous No.6978643]

>>6978618
depends. are you reading or killing?

[Anonymous No.6980669]

bop

[Anonymous No.6980677]

>>6973103
>implying musicians know anything about good music

[Anonymous No.6980685]

>>6972967
right, he's got an 'anxiety disorder' but despite this he has a wife and kids. I would call what I use to have an anxiety disorder. What he has to deal with must be like butterflies in the stomach by comparison

[Anonymous No.6980708]

>>6980677
Well, are you going to disprove him? :)

[Anonymous No.6981179]

>being close friends with a faggot born in 1994

[Anonymous No.6981189]

>>6981179
>John is mentally ill
>Hank suffers from fecal inconticence
How bad are their genes like holy shit.

[Anonymous No.6982745]

>>6981179
>not being born in 1994