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Hey /lit/. Looking for literature that feels like Wes Anderson (quiet, melancholy, innocent, warm).

>> No.6947739

>>6947734
john green

>> No.6947742

>>6947739
Stephen King

>> No.6947746
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6947746

cutesy bourgeois books? try picrelated.

>> No.6947751

>>6947739
>>6947742
good meme(s)

>> No.6947866

>>6947734
Fournier- Lost Estate
Murdoch - Under the Net

I also enjoy Wes. Even the ones that aren't so good.

>> No.6947890

>>6947866
Curious, which do you not like? IMO bottle rocket through Darjeeling are all great

>> No.6947896

>>6947734
>Wes Anderson
>(quiet, melancholy, innocent, warm).

I thought Wes Anderson movies were pretentious quirkfests. Seriously the only thing cool about his movies are the sountracks. I wouldn't use any of op's descriptions for his movies.

>> No.6947903

>>6947739
this tbh

>> No.6947910

>>6947896
He's somewhere between the two.

>> No.6947918

>>6947896
Tenenbaums and Darjeeling are pretty quiet.

>> No.6947925

>>6947896
Pleb.

>> No.6947927

>>6947890
Bottle Rocket to me is standard issue, C plus. Could have been made by lmost any indie director. And Zizou is sort of a mess with an artificial ending even if it's mad comfy. Darjeeling I'm totally on the fence with as it sort of plays out everything that's first-world-problems and effete in Anderson, but it's just so damn pretty.

>> No.6947932

>>6947927
Bottle rocket did all that stuff before the modern wave of indie directors. That's what makes it special, it's sincere and not a copycat like little miss sunshine and all those movies that followed.

Also Darjeeling is completely self aware about its "first world problems".

>> No.6947936

>>6947896
really, you couldn't even appreciate their aesthetic?

>> No.6947942

>>6947910
>>6947918
I mean his movies are highly stylized for sure. i also think the same thing goes for his characters. they are too "loud" and unrealistic to me. I'm not sure how anyone relates to anyone in his films. their oddball personalities make them fun in a way but totally un-relatable. and his stiff dialogue will have me laughing sometimes as if it were purposefully bad. maybe it is...i don't know.

i think "bottle rocket" is the most quiet movie. i think dignan or maybe steve zissou are my favorite characters as they feel a little like don Quixote in some ways. sometimes his characters are painful to watch. especially the scene in op's pic. makes me want to barf.

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6947961

The Royal Tenenbaums should be a book.

>> No.6947963

>>6947932
>little miss sunshine
>copycat

>> No.6947965

>>6947890
you didn't like moonrise kingdom or grand budapest?

>> No.6947969

>>6947942
Wes' worlds are populated by eccentrics trying to hide their depression. They just pretend to be happy in different ways. Dignan's, for example, is distracting himself from his lack of a life and pretending to be a legitimate criminal, like a small child. Steve is quite sensitive on the inside, but he's scared of being hurt again so he acts jaded and cynical. Same with Margot. Those type of characters are just very insecure about their futures and the outside world.

I think once you take into account all of Wes' films are about fatherhood in some way or another, the characters suddenly become really believable.

>> No.6947970

>>6947932
I don't really see how coming first makes BR more sincere. It's nice, like I said - I like it, but there are a lot of films like that and they're much of a muchness.

You're right that DL makes fun of the characters for being rich boys, but it does hurt the narrative push that none of their problems are worth a damn. And it maybe misses a down-to-earth character who's developed. The characters who live in the real world like the stewardess and the bald guy don't get much time. Some of the other films are better at setting the boy heroes against normal people.

>> No.6947974

>>6947961
Franny and Zooey directly influenced it.

>> No.6947986

>>6947969
>Bottle Rocket
Anthony's father and mother are divorced, he lives with his rich mother. Dignan sees the mafia boss as a father figure and wants to impress him.

>Rushmore
Max's father is a normal, middle class man. Max clashes with him on several issues and seeks being a son under Herman's leadership. Also subconsciously sees the teacher as a motherly figure because his died when he was young.

>Royal Tenenbaums
Speaks for itself

>The Life Aquatic
Steve is terrified of fatherhood, is a child himself. Ned simultaneously acts as his son and a parent to his childishness. Cate Blanchett is motherly to him.

>Darjeeling
Brothers try to mimic and subconsciously idolize their father by wearing his clothing and using his luggage. Each cant handle his passing.

>Fox
Not applicable

>Moonrise
Sam is an orphan, Bill Murray is a bad dad.

>Castello Cavalcanti
Castello is bamboozled by the masculine older Italian men in the town.

>Grand Budapest
M Gustave acts as a fatherly figure towards Zero, who's a war orphan. Adrien Brody acts like a spoiled brat because of no parental guidance. Also it's a bit of a pun because he's an immigrant moving to a new land.

I'm not saying his films are about fatherhood, but they're definitely a strong and reoccurring element.

>> No.6947991

>>6947986
Shit, I forgot in Fox his son was trying to impress him the whole time

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6948318

>>6947734

>> No.6948331

>>6948318
I don't get it. His films aren't edgy in any way

>> No.6948383

>>6947734
I like how you actually gave the characteristics you were looking for instead of asking us to guess what it is about Wes Anderson's movies you like.

Try the short stories of F. Scott Fitzgerald

>> No.6948755

>>6947734

>>>/buzzfeed/

>> No.6948764

>>6948755
hello reddit

>> No.6948776

DUDE SYMETRY LMAO

Dan Brown books

>> No.6948840

>>6948776
hello reddit

>> No.6948861

>>6948776
>DUDE OVERSIMPLIFICATION MEME LMAO

>>>/tv/

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6948906

>>6947734
Tove. This one in particular has all those elements. Very cozy.

>> No.6949960

>>6947734
Irving if you want some really fucked up emotional situations lumped in with it. Try the Hotel New Yorker, hu boy.

>> No.6949981

>>6947734
His movies try to capture what books feel like, so pretty much every book feels like his movies.

>> No.6950044

>>6947734
How is Anderson innocent? His whole schtick is quickly-squandered youth and jaded emotions leading to amorality and unthinking egoism. I think you're being misled by the saturation of colors, absurdly serene acceptance of fate, and preposterously benign outcomes which have inexplicably not left you darkly skeptical about the characters' future.

>> No.6950051

>>6947974
Any ideas on the influences of the others? Or is there an official list? Life Aquatic was Cousteau's "The Shark", but I haven't really thought about the rest.

>> No.6950055

>>6950051
Grand Budapest was Stefan Zweig

>> No.6950060

>>6948383
You mention F. Scott because of his exploration of modern ennui and disillusion and not the utterly misguided opinions of OP, right?

>> No.6950063

Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan

>> No.6950154

>>6947734
Tom Robbins has the same twee/'quirky' thing.

>> No.6950500

>>6950044
But he puts a very high value on innocence and often tries to express how an innocent perceives the world. There's innocent feeling throughout.

>> No.6950519

>>6947734
You know what's actually like Anderson? Bartleby the Scrivener. Impassiveness, deadpan lols, elegant structure and prose, a pleasure to read and then when you think about it thoroughly miserable.

>> No.6950542

>>6950519
The accuracy here bites as hard as most child actors' line deliveries in Wes Anderson movies.

>> No.6950611

>>6947961
It is. It's called Infinite Jest.

>> No.6951034

>>6950542
You lost me.

>> No.6951168

>>6950500
What innocence? I rarely see characters acting altruistically. Mostly they just pursue their desires until external circumstances force them to stop. There's a lot of naivité, but that's not the same.

>> No.6951182

>>6947896
You literally cannot fault Wes' films as trivial quirkfests, but not think the same about his song choices.

>> No.6951188

>>6950611
this

IJ gave me super Wes vibes at certain parts. The Ennet House is essentially a Wes Andersonian ensemble. The scenes with the kids in Moonrise Kingdom is more or less the same thing as the Eschaton scene.

>> No.6951205

>>6947942

I can relate to Richie Tenenbaum, and one of my best friends is extremely similar to M Gustave. Obviously neither of us are as colorful as the film characters, but they are relatable on a human level

>> No.6951623

>>6947942
>I can't relate to characters

maybe you have autism

I'm not joking

>> No.6951639

>>6950611
>>6951188
>quirky humor
>dysfunctional families
That's about it.
The most generic parts of their work is all they have in common.

>> No.6952505

Most new sincerity post-pomo books have this vibe

>> No.6953512

bump, genuinely interested in more thoughts about wes anderson since it's impossible to discuss cinema on /tv/

>> No.6953578

>>6947734
Hmm, not sure how innocent and warm these would be, but J.D. Salinger's stuff on the Glass family was what Wes Anderson based the Royal Tenenbaums off of.

>> No.6953649

>>6950060
I recommended it because of his short stories remind me of Wes Anderson. Quirky, lighthearted but with darker undertones, "vintage", and with imagery and atmosphere so hip it's impossible to imagine anyone living in that world, although we ourselves still fantasize about it.

Read this and tell me you don't think it feels like a Wes Anderson flick.

http://www.online-literature.com/fitzgerald/870/

>> No.6953716

>>6947734
i've noticed that Kafka's The Trial and Anderson's Grand Budapest have almost identical narrative voices.

the movement of the actors, the cinematography, the dialogue, Wes's idiosyncratic style extrapolates almost seamlessly to Kafka's stories.

now obviously Kafka's work is neither innocent nor warm, and Wes's work doesn't fit the "Kafkaesque" parameter, but read The Trial and visualize it in your head as directed by Wes Anderson(more Grand Budapest style) and tell me im wrong

>> No.6953808

>>6947942
>not realistic
>not relatable
>not likeable
pleb

>> No.6953835

>>6953716
>i've noticed that Kafka's The Trial and Anderson's Grand Budapest have almost identical narrative voices.
I feel this

>> No.6953840

I unashamedly love Wes Anderson's movies. The stories aren't always perfect, but from a set/camera work/music/directorial/aesthetic standpoint, I adore them.

Not that I don't like the stories too, of course

>>6948318
>implying neckbeards would like Anderson
He isn't a "classic" they could prattle off about when people ask his favorite director, and the overall non-edginess wouldn't appeal

>> No.6953847

>>6953716
>i've noticed that Kafka's The Trial and Anderson's Grand Budapest have almost identical narrative voices.
>the movement of the actors, the cinematography, the dialogue, Wes's idiosyncratic style extrapolates almost seamlessly to Kafka's stories.


That's really interesting, actually. I don't entirely see it, but I can tell where you're coming from.

>> No.6955219

>>6951182
I literally did though. He's got a lot of classic rock and some obscure folk with Mark mothersbaugh's talent. What's Not to like?