/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6941762]

what are the edgiest underground books in your language and what are they about?

[Anonymous No.6941786]

>>6941762
Dunno.

This one is "edgy" but not underground. It might be relatively unknown outside the lusosphere.

There are blind rapists in it. The rape victims are also blind too.

Or maybe you'd consider them prostitutes rather than rape victims because they get paid in food, but they would otherwise starve. They are coerced into sex and it's pretty sad, anyway.

[Anonymous No.6941800]

Autisterna by Stig Larsson in swedish. It's a postmodern novella/ short story collection about 16 different men who all share the feeling of depersonalisation. My favorite of the bunch was the guy who went on a furious wanking spree and tried to bootycall himself.

[Anonymous No.6941802]

'He Died With A Felafel In His Hand' - John Birmingham
About living in sharehouses in Brisbane, Australia. Not really a different language but it's a pretty cult book for it's bucket bong and dead maggot references. Pre-dialectic slang maybe.

[Anonymous No.6941815]

>>6941786
I don't think that book is edgy at all, if you pay attention to the actual ideas in it.

[Anonymous No.6941818]

Germoney speaking
>Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo (1978)
It is a biography-interview with a heroin addicted whore child from West Berlin.
>Josephine Mutzenbacher (1906)
"The story of a whore in Vienna told by herself"; the book constantly got banned and the ban got repealed again since this is art or satire or informative or whatnot. It's anonymous but there are several theories about authorship which range from the idea it is an authentic memoir to ascribing it to Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi, a life in the woods".
>Berlin Alexanderplatz (1929)
Germany's great stream-of-consciousness novel with the prot being a career criminal who spent WW1 in jail. It features prostitutes, criminals, jews, bad impulsive behavior, a very broken dialect german and all the other fancy stuff the nazis didn't like. This got the book banned and gave it an aura of forbidden art.
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[Anonymous No.6941821]

>>6941800
That sounds way better than The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

[Anonymous No.6941830]

>>6941815
Meh, I think "edgy" is used to refer to anything that has shock value (e.g. blind rape orgies).

It's a buzzword, don't think too long about it.

[Anonymous No.6941837]

>>6941786
women love to spread their legs, and are happy to be paid for it, it improves their desires hence their orgasms

[Anonymous No.6941845]

>>6941837
read the fucking book

[Anonymous No.6941914]

>>6941830
Problem is if you say "shocking" you concede he got you shocked. Take Leonid Andreyev, a writer who nowadays is mainly famous outside of Russia through Tolstoy's quip - "He is trying hard to spook me but I'm not afraid". Leonid described in "the Red Laugh" the Russo-Japanese war with ultraviolence, the loss of relatives, PTSD; he described the real life execution of leftwing terrorists in similar tones in "the Seven who were Hanged". If it all is meaningful you cannot say but it was all very edgy for the Russian Empire, both due to his aesthetics and his (implied) politics. Similarly you could fight about whether the contemporary Russian author Sorokin is left or right, progressive or conservative, but the one thing is clear: he is edgy as fuck. Leonid Andreyev fled to his villa in Finnland and wrote pamphlets addressed to the public outside of Russia complaining about the Bolsheviks. That's because he was edgy, not radical.

[Anonymous No.6942271]

>>6941914
If you say edgy however, you concede that it's avant garde.

[Anonymous No.6944846]

>>6941762
What do you mean by "underground"? What do you mean by "edgy"? Your question is indecipherable.

[Anonymous No.6944942]

>>6944846
Indecipherable perhaps if you're obtuse as fuck. The words you mentioned both are served by an understood and specific set of ideals that represent them each in this epoch. You know what is meant by "edgy" or "underground" as well as I do. Skulking as a pedant does little to change that.

[Anonymous No.6944952]

>>6944942
Nope. I've garnered a very rough idea of "edgy" as something provocative or unusual, but that's hardly useful, and "underground" for a book would mean... something that didn't sell well and isn't well known? It's all pretty vague.

[Anonymous No.6944953]

>>6944942
This. Fusspots are annoying. You can carry that attitude on forever.
But really, what does "attitude" mean when you get right down to it? Or "what"? Or "or"? I think I'll just grunt at my laptop for the rest of this sermon to maintain my purity of fussiness.

[Anonymous No.6945293]

>>6941762
george bataille story of the eye

[Anonymous No.6945321]

>>6941786
How difficult would you say the portuguese is in this? I'm trying to read stuff in Portuguese, but I've only been studying it for two years so books like Macunaíma fuck me

[Ignatius Neworleanus Rex Intel(...) No.6945331]

>>6942271
Only if the front guard is leading the army off a cliff. Things that stick around usually shed their edge but remain avant garde in their sensibilities. There is lots of blind stumbling that falls to the way side once the shock has worn away.

[Anonymous No.6945398]

>>6941762
This, work and life of some narco.

[Anonymous No.6945470]

I guess Guts by Palahniuk, or Hogg by Delaney. Being Anglophone is suffering