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Anonymous Fri Aug 7 02:07:04 2015 No.6940686 [Reply] [Original]

This thing is fucking awful. Are the rest of Rand's books as horrible as this one or was starting from her first novel a mistake?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 02:09:18 2015 No.6940696 >>6940686 You think you know suffering, read The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 04:01:34 2015 No.6941002 File: 204 KB, 600x468, 1438911544135.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6940686 >yfw it's her best work >mfw I'm soon to read every piece of her fiction on a bet

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 04:25:46 2015 No.6941074 >>6940686 I imagine that it only gets worse. I am currently reading the fountainhead. Tell me, is the protagonist of your book socially retarded also?

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 08:38:52 2015 No.6941697

I recall it being really uninteresting, hamfisted with its moral and completely anticlimactic. Just "and then we fucked off into the mountains and we called ourself I and equated ourselves to Greek mythological figures whom we really shouldn't even know about given the setting, so fuckin deep"

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 08:39:49 2015 No.6941699 >>6941002 >>mfw I'm soon to read every piece of her fiction on a bet How'd you lose?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 08:41:32 2015 No.6941702 File: 40 KB, 970x646, sped.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Rand claims she never read Zamyatin's We

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 09:01:04 2015 No.6941755 >le rand is bad maymay How did it feel to be wrenched out of your collectivist self-flagellation and shown the Hero's Path? Bretty bad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 09:07:56 2015 No.6941770 >>6941755 I don't think any American posting here could be called a collectivist. But there's being individualist and then there's being a self-serving dick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 09:08:26 2015 No.6941773 >>6941755 >Rand >good Go back to your containment board and stay there. >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 09:10:26 2015 No.6941780 >>6941773 /pol/ hates Rand because she's a Jew.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 09:14:45 2015 No.6941795 >>6941773 >/pol/ liking a kike woman well meemed

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 17:02:40 2015 No.6943738
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>>6941699
I thought Vin Diesel and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson were the same person. Or at least I thought "The Rock" was Vin Diesel's nickname.
This shit cost me like $100+, and all of my Amazon recommendations are for her other works and related things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 18:49:26 2015 No.6944184 >>6943738 Why is Anthem so thick? It's just a novella iirc

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 18:51:41 2015 No.6944192 >>6943738 Jesus Christ, that's really bad. I guess you do deserve it, considering how big Vin is with the FF movies, and Rock being, well The Rock. >and all of my Amazon recommendations are for her other works and related things. Terrible fate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 18:55:50 2015 No.6944217 >>6944184 I think some editions have commentary and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 19:14:35 2015 No.6944312 >>6943738 They've both been in recent Fast and Furious movies ya dingus.

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 19:14:49 2015 No.6944314

>>6944192
I've never watched a single Fast & Furious movie, and whenever a trailer comes up it just immediately sucks the awareness out of me, I don't know if I ever saw his face fully before I googled him for the bet. Although I heard he was good as Riddick from Pitch Black.
As for Dwayne Johnson I think the only movie I entirely watched that he was in was "The Rundown" and that's about two hours of Dwayne Johnson kicking the most ass I've ever seen in my life. I guess the personalities I imagined of the two matched each other enough to meld into one person.
>>6944184
It's the Centennial Edition, it's two complete copies of Anthem but one with Rand's notes and scribbles on the side. that probably means I'm going to read it twice

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 19:38:16 2015 No.6944453

>>6944314
As someone who's read all her fiction, I can comfortably say that We The Living is her best (it's also technically her first novel, written and published before Anthem).

There's way less philosophical aims. It's just sort of autobiographical fiction that frowns down its nose at the Bolshevik Revolution.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 20:48:20 2015 No.6944736 >>6944453 >As someone who's read all her fiction Oh dear, what bet did you lose?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:09:06 2015 No.6944996 Don't try and penetrate Rand's fiction, it's not worth it. Just watch a body of her tv interviews, they'll catch you up on her philosophy, which is interesting enough. They don't hold up as literature and don't matter in any literary canon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:13:07 2015 No.6945005 >>6940686 Ayn Rand could not write her way out of a wet paper bag. She is a Russian Jew that is permanently butt hurt about the communists taking her family's wealth and running them out of the country.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:46:17 2015 No.6945112 >>6943738 go fuck around in your account settings, you should be able to undo that. Maybe in the purchase history or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:47:41 2015 No.6945118 >>6944736 We The Living is pretty short. Anthem is less than 100 pages, dude. She's a turd writer, but it's all short and easy as fuck. Except Atlas Shrugged. That's long but easy as fuck.

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:53:55 2015 No.6945136

>>6940686
I tried to read the Fountainhead long ago before I knew about her politics and "philosophy." It's about an architect and I thought I wanted to be an architect, so I read it. I got about 3/4 through before giving up; the writing just sucked so bad. I usually will finish a book, but it was just awful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:55:18 2015 No.6945144 >>6945005 id be pretty butthurt about that too

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 22:59:31 2015 No.6945158 >>6940686 worse

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:00:39 2015 No.6945161 >>6945005 >>6945144 Both of which prove communist takeover was justified

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:01:50 2015 No.6945164 >>6943738 I feel sick looking at this

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:06:10 2015 No.6945177 >>6945164 How do you think I feel owning it? >>6945118 The first three maybe, but the bottom three I am not looking forward too. I have several buffer books strategically placed between the books to make this less horrible >>6945112 Will try.

Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:16:00 2015 No.6945202

>>6940686

I read Atlas Shrugged in college and wrote some shitty essay that I submitted to a contest hosted by the Objectivist Society. I actually placed and won like a hundred bucks. They also sent me a copy of The Fountainhead, which I did not read.

Some of the ideas in Atlas Shrugged were interesting to me at the time, but other people expressed those ideas more clearly, and ultimately her conclusions are shit. The novel had little or no literary merit. My essay was a load of schlock and I didn't believe a word of it, I was just doing it for the money. Which might make me a pretty good "Objectivist" after all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:17:17 2015 No.6945207 >>6940686 >This thing is fucking awful I, you ignorant turd. I, I, I !!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 7 23:18:17 2015 No.6945209 Is Ayn Rand really considered a bad writer? I only read Atlas Shrugged, but I found a lot of it dazzling. Is that really considered poor writing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 04:30:19 2015 No.6945930 >>6945209 i don't know how anyone can take the dialog seriously. chat bots have more emotion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 04:44:08 2015 No.6945972 >>6943738 Why would you make a bet that bad for something that'd take you 2 seconds to check on google?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 04:55:13 2015 No.6946004 >>6943738 >betting on facts

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 05:06:16 2015 No.6946031 >>6941702 She also said she was only ever influenced philosophically by Aristotle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 06:29:13 2015 No.6946159 >>6943738 >I thought Vin Diesel and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson were the same person. Or at least I thought "The Rock" was Vin Diesel's nickname. Are you fucking retarded.

Anonymous Sat Aug 8 08:47:12 2015 No.6946431

>>6945202
>My essay was a load of schlock and I didn't believe a word of it, I was just doing it for the money.
I think it's poetically fitting that your reward was The Fountainhead, since dishonesty for the sake of self advancement is probably one of the central themes of the novel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 08:55:02 2015 No.6946434 >>6945209 It reads like a script to a shitty movie, which is probably what it was meant to be given her Hollywood background. Remember the scene when the spic is dual wielding pistols from the top of the building, never missing? What the hell was that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 16:54:01 2015 No.6948002 >>6946434 >dual wielding pistols from the top of the building Holy shit maybe this book will be more entertaining than I thought

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 17:00:09 2015 No.6948014 File: 742 KB, 200x189, 1422171001669.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6945202 >>6946431 THEY FUCKING KNEW!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 17:03:30 2015 No.6948028 >>6946031 Look up stuff on her wanting Nietzsche's dick before later deciding she was never influenced by him and never read him. It's interesting stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 19:13:57 2015 No.6948515 So you hate her because she is a woman and a jew or is she a legit bad writer? Also I'd guessed that her philosophy would be admired here given the 4chan's right/libertarian mindset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 8 21:19:02 2015 No.6948907 >>6948515 You forget that 4chan is pretty misogynist and anti-semite.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 05:42:20 2015 No.6950315 >>6946434 >when the spic is dual wielding pistols from the top of the building, never missing nigger is that actually in the book, might read it now instead of buying into the meme

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 06:27:56 2015 No.6950442 >>6946434 Well look at this shit, man: >>6948002 >>6950315 You made these two want to check out the book to see some amazing spic. And I want to read it now, too.

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