/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6915318]

Why is Bloom such a reactionary tard?

If someone takes the focus off Shakespeare for 10 seconds he'd have a fucking heart attack.

I don't know if you guys know this, but he is actually mocked in academia for his completely irrational prophecies about the decline of the humanities.

Heaven help education for teaching people about a variety of cultures

[Anonymous No.6915323]

>>6915318
>a variety of cultures
>non-Western "cultures"

[Anonymous No.6915326]

>>6915323
If that's how you want to define it.

[Anonymous No.6915330]

Yeah we should read more books by disabled, black, Mohammedan trans women of color.

[Anonymous No.6915332]

>>6915318
he looks like an egg
>>6915330
if you want to, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.6915338]

>reactionary
>reactionary
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>reactionary
>academia
>reactionary
>reactionary
>reactionary
>irrational
>academia
>academia
>reactionary
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>reactionary

[Anonymous No.6915341]

Is Bloom a race traitor for not joining in the zionist project to devalue and ultimately erase European culture?

[Anonymous No.6915346]

>>6915332
Just because /pol/ makes fun of the retarded progressives in the humanities does't mean you have to be one.

[Anonymous No.6915351]

OP here.

Forgot to add my Inb4

Inb4 /pol/tards and braindead hicks

[Anonymous No.6915354]

>>6915346
im just saying that you are free to read whatever you want man, if you want to read trans space opera or homer is your choice.

[Anonymous No.6915355]

>>6915318
>Why is Bloom such a reactionary tard?
His career depends on it.

[Anonymous No.6915361]

>>6915354
One is decidedly more valuable than the other.

[Anonymous No.6915368]

>>6915318
The man was influential long before the Canon Wars. Sure, a lot of people think he's a bit of a crank and a sensationalist for his stance on Canon, but you've got to understand that even my hardcore Marxist, Feminist, radical antiracist literature professor who I thought was a lesbian for half the semester until she offhandedly mentioned a husband holds plenty of books by white men in such high esteem that she'd argue with even more aggressive liberal students for including so many white men in the curriculum, that is to say, that the huge majority of sane people in English departments sympathize with his love for the European tradition, but have different ideas on curriculum design and that's where you get the impression that he's at odds with everyone younger than himself.

[Anonymous No.6915373]

>>6915318
>he is actually mocked in academia
Maybe at your shitty liberal for-profit university #27392, but here in the real academic settings he's well respected, and for good reason. Where exactly do you find yourself that he's "mocked"? I can guarantee it's not in an Ivy, where I actually spend a lot of time personally.

[Anonymous No.6915380]

>>6915361
Not necessarily.

[Anonymous No.6915384]

>>6915373
lmao

[Anonymous No.6915388]

>>6915361
Middlebrow hack.

[Anonymous No.6915390]

>>6915373
>Ivy league
>Not the world's most expensive day care for narcissist babbies

[Anonymous No.6915393]

>>6915390
>he didn't get in

[Anonymous No.6915394]

>>6915318
his lit crit is kinda mediocre imo

but I'm with him on the canon. also english lit has nothing to gain by taking its focus off shakespeare

[Anonymous No.6915395]

>>6915373
He's been writing pop books for a quarter century, the dude is like the literature version of Nial Ferguson, but since Ivy's are all about following orders and kissing ass of your superiors its not shocking people would be scared to mention that he sucks.

[Anonymous No.6915401]

>>6915368
Bloom, nor anyone with a brain, cares about "white men" or a "European tradition" in the canon. That's not the point and his canon list reflects that.

[Anonymous No.6915404]

>>6915380
>Homer has the same value as Zadie Smith

[Anonymous No.6915410]

>>6915373
>I can guarantee it's not in an Ivy, where I actually spend a lot of time personally.

George W. Bush spent a lot of time around Ivies too, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.6915415]

>>6915404
That's subjective isn't it? At least on a personal level it definitely is.

[Anonymous No.6915420]

>>6915393
I'm not an expensive narcissist baby so I didn't apply.

[Anonymous No.6915424]

>>6915404
That's not what I said.
>You
>Valuing reading
>Always pick one.
That's what I said. Thanks for proving the point. Hope you didn't get where you are by being an Ivy League shit.

[Anonymous No.6915426]

>>6915410
sick burn

[Anonymous No.6915427]

>>6915394
Who are you to say that? Obviously we have some sort of gain because it's implemented

[Anonymous No.6915432]

>>6915393
>ad homs because he knows he's right

[Anonymous No.6915435]

>>6915410
And George W Bush was also the president of the United States of America and he's smarter than you are. What's your point?

[Anonymous No.6915441]

>>6915420
>has never been to an ivy league school
>claims authority enough to judge them
Do you also feel qualified to judge books you haven't read? I'm sure you do

[Anonymous No.6915442]

>>6915410
GWB is far smarter than you

[Anonymous No.6915443]

>>6915435
>And George W Bush ... is smarter than [anyone]

[Anonymous No.6915451]

>>6915443
Not my favorite president but he is undoubtedly more intelligent than you are. Sorry lad

[Anonymous No.6915457]

>>6915441
>Do you also feel qualified to judge books you haven't read?
You must have meant to reply to these posts:
>>6915323
>>6915330
And every >female writer >minority writer, etc. shitpost on this board

[Anonymous No.6915459]

People who say Bush is stupid are fucking retarded.

The guy was President of the most influential and powerful country in the world for 8 years. Eight fucking years.

He's not stupid.

[Anonymous No.6915460]

>>6915451
Dubya what are you doing on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.6915466]

>>6915451
> he read the stranger for the first time only after being prompted to by his school teacher wife in the second term as president
>cited jesus as his favorite philosopher

come on dude, it's tempting to say bush was only pretending to be stupid to appeal to his hillbilly base but im pretty sure he was for real

[Anonymous No.6915471]

>>6915457
That has nothing to do with my post or the post I was replying to.

[Anonymous No.6915472]

>>6915459

He was foolish and inarticulate. Stupid, he was sometimes as well, by definition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt-ac6pstmM

[Anonymous No.6915473]

>>6915459
>The guy was President of the most influential and powerful country in the world

[Anonymous No.6915477]

>>6915442
>>6915451
>>6915459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8
>that fucking shit-eating grin

[Anonymous No.6915486]

>>6915435
>>6915442
>>6915451
>>6915459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM
>bush is smart guys i swear

[Anonymous No.6915488]

Is there something physically wrong with Harold Bloom? In every picture I see of him, even pictures from when he was a young man, he's making this face like he's taking a very painful shit.

[Anonymous No.6915489]

>>6915471
Amazing, neither does your comment have anything to do with what I said.

[Anonymous No.6915491]

>>6915318
Thank god for that picture, or else I would have thought you were discussing Allan Bloom

[Anonymous No.6915493]

>>6915451
Smarter than Obama tbh

[Anonymous No.6915496]

>>6915466
>>6915472
>>6915473
>>6915477
>>6915486

>ALL ME BTW

[Anonymous No.6915499]

>>6915493
Where are these republicunts coming from?

[Anonymous No.6915500]

>>6915496
wrong faggot.

[Anonymous No.6915502]

>>6915318
Oh he's mocked by humanities people?

He must be a real asshole then, because humanities people matter so fucking much when they're not doing art.

[Anonymous No.6915504]

>>6915502
Good God, man.

[Anonymous No.6915505]

>>6915499
I'm actually loyal to the monarchy. Bush was just better than Obama.

[Anonymous No.6915508]

>>6915502
Bloom is a humanities person

And he doesn't create art

[Anonymous No.6915514]

>>6915318
i remember a lecture in class one day. we were talking about nazism and art. the professor put up pictures of two different paintings, one approved by the nazis and the other was deemed to be degenerate art. the former was a painting of a white family. it wasn't great, a little boring, but the technical skill was there. the latter was a complete abortion that looked like it could have been made in mspaint in 20 minutes.

when he said the shitty spanish cartoon was clearly the better painting, it made me angry.

if i had to deal with cunts like that on a daily basis, i'd be a reactionary, too.

[Anonymous No.6915516]

>>6915496

>>6915472 is myself. I felt obligated to point out, by definition, Bush was stupefied, stunned, and speechless. Id est stupid.

[Anonymous No.6915517]

>>6915488
He's in constant physical pain from the having to bear the knowledge of knowing people like those that browse /lit/ exist. You have to consider that literature is his passion, it's basically his life force. And /lit/ has kidnapped the medium and continues to sodomize it and abuse it by pretending to read and quoting wikipedia furiously in an attempt to make up for self worth issues most likely stemming from father problems. And he has to live while witnessing this on a grand scale. Imagine if your girlfriend was seized and systematically plowed by every halfwit limpdick in the country while you could do nothing but watch and shake your head out of frustration and the crippling futility of it all. That is what is causing Bloom the discomfort you see on his face.

[Anonymous No.6915518]

>>6915368
>even my hardcore Marxist, Feminist, radical antiracist literature professor who I thought was a lesbian for half the semester until she offhandedly mentioned a husband

I thought I was the only one had this experience

mine kept talking about her "partner" until one day toward the end of semester she said husband

[Anonymous No.6915520]

>>6915505
>I'm actually loyal to the monarchy.
I hope this wasn't supposed to instil confidence in your intellectual capabilities...

[Anonymous No.6915522]

>>6915459
>He's not stupid.
I mean his IQ was well above average and his decisions were probably made at the behest of well informed top tier intellectuals if that's what you mean.
His actual political/economic knowledge and morality is what's so questionable about the man.

[Anonymous No.6915523]

>>6915517
he just doesn't get millenials is all lol omg wtf

[Anonymous No.6915524]

>>6915517
NOICE
i always wanted to be some short of evil force.

[Anonymous No.6915526]

>>6915520
Fuck off, republicunt or Americunt.

[Anonymous No.6915529]

>>6915505
>I'm actually loyal to the monarchy
reverend TS Eliot pls go

[Anonymous No.6915536]

>>6915318
Everything about this post is incorrect. I smell shitty bait.
2/10, slightly ruffled.

[Anonymous No.6915541]

>>6915505
You mean the inbred idlers who somehow have the ability to govern people because they were born into a specific family?

I don't see how any rational person can buy into that shit. It's utterly appalling.

[Anonymous No.6915544]

>>6915541
Best system of government in the world

[Anonymous No.6915547]

>>6915522
>IQ was well above average
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.6915557]

>>6915544
Says who? Says the monarchy.

Royal families are beneath contempt

[Anonymous No.6915563]

>>6915318

All Bloom wants is for books to be judged on merit and not based on the culture of origin of the author. What's happening is that humanities departments are shoehorning in sub par minority books in order to fall in with liberal ideology.

[Anonymous No.6915570]

>>6915563
Please stop using buzzwords

Please tell me how you can objectively judge merit

What one person thinks is valuable another might not

[Anonymous No.6915574]

>reactionary
>>>/tumblr/

[Anonymous No.6915575]

>>6915435
He's a war criminal who destabilized an entire region for its natural resources.

[Anonymous No.6915582]

>>6915563
>>6915563
>All Bloom wants is for books to be judged on merit and not based on the culture of origin of the author.

It's a lost cause these days.
There was all sorts of praise for the latest Booker longlist because of its "diversity". No mention at all about whether the books are actually any good or not.

[Anonymous No.6915584]

>>6915401
Saying there is a European tradition of literature and philosophy isn't a racial thing, dude, calm down. It's just the case that if you live in America or Europe, your whole world is shaped by he progression of ideas from The Greeks TM to the present day, and so the canon must necessarily include enough works from that tradition to flesh it out for you. Anyone with a brain cares very much about that when they start designing a curriculum.

People wrapped up in contemporary identity politics care about the number of white men on a reading list for their own reasons. The point of my anecdote was to show that even someone heavily invested in identity politics and paring down the presence of the white man in academia sees the value in the European Tradition and a conception of the Canon quite similar to Bloom's, enough to fight for it against those who challenge her commitment to her main political beliefs due to her curriculum choices.

[Anonymous No.6915591]

>>6915547
Google it faggot. Are you so amazed that someone who graduated from yale has an above average iq?

[Anonymous No.6915600]

>>6915584
>It's just the case that if you live in America or Europe, your whole world is shaped by he progression of ideas from The Greeks TM
You don't think these fools know that? It's a lost cause, some people major in the humanities but don't actually care about them. Unfortunately, some of its easier branches have made it a fallback for the lowest tier of college students.

[Anonymous No.6915610]

>>6915600
I honestly don't know what you're arguing with me about.

[Anonymous No.6915625]

>>6915610
I honestly don't know what you're arguing with me about.

[Anonymous No.6915629]

>>6915591

Would you be amazed that he graduated with a lower IQ than when he started? Bush was a jolly good fellow and all that, but I don't support him as president, in the same way I wouldn't support Jed Clampett. Mostly because the POTUS should be articulate and avoid embarrassing the nation.

[Anonymous No.6915630]

>>6915522
just goes to show how meaningless iq is

[Anonymous No.6915638]

>>6915557
>implying the monarchy has absolute power
You're pretty retarded tbh

[Anonymous No.6915641]

>>6915570

Well that's why we have the canon. Both ordinary readers and knowledgeable academics have enjoyed these books for hundreds or even thousands of years.

>quality ideas
>quality writing
>depth and breadth of knowledge
>innovation
>mastery of the medium

I mean if you want diversity read Juan Rulfo or Virginia Woolf not fucking Sherman Alexie or some shit.

>>6915582

Very sad to be honest.

[Anonymous No.6915644]

>>6915638
wtf?

[Anonymous No.6915650]

>>6915641
The canon is just collectivised opinions

Obviously apparent in no one being able to fucking decide what the actual canon is.

Btw all of those points about judging merit are all opinions

[Anonymous No.6915651]

>>6915629
>Would you be amazed that he graduated with a lower IQ than when he started?
Did he take several iq tests? Is this a joke, or can a man's iq really change in 4 years?
>but I don't support him as president,
Very few people do. The mediocre Obama is a breath of fresh air compared to dubya.

[Anonymous No.6915654]

>>6915570
undergrad pls go

[Anonymous No.6915673]

>>6915341
That plan was ditched long ago, we realized modern European culture was the best possible host (look at how virus-like the English language is for instance, it's like the native language of dank memes). Most the modern fads that have benefitted is were European inventions. Bloom is barely relevant, mostly here to divert attention.


You goyim aren't too quick at catching up to our shtick, are you ?

[Anonymous No.6915677]

>>6915651
>Is this a joke, or can a man's iq really change in 4 years?

Do you really want a list of the stuff that can make that happen ? It ain't gonna be pretty.

[Anonymous No.6915685]

>>6915677
>Do you really want a list of the stuff that can make that happen ?
I can only think of irresponsible drug use and physical injury. Bush was an alcoholic, it's true, but...in four years?

[Anonymous No.6915692]

>>6915361
Valuable for what ? Trans Space Opera would probably be more funny and sell for more at the market, but also have less value as heat generating material (Homer's book would probably burn longer). They may or may not have the same value as providers of awesome outlandish fights.

I don't really like it when the anon who pretends defend the Canon happens to have sloppy thinking. Patrish posting is for patrish people, anon. Apply yourself next time.

[Anonymous No.6915710]

>>6915685

Don't forget sweet sweet Alabama 'Cain. And you best not underestimate Bush's drinking abilities, he was a member of all the Yale secret societies, and it's not enough to just be rich, ya gotta hold the liquor and snort with abandon.

Honestly I'm amazed that anyone graduates Yale with their sanity intact. Oh right, the nerds.

[Anonymous No.6915719]

>>6915650

Well fuck why teach literature at all then? What makes minority books worthy of being taught if it's "all subjective" ? Why should we read diversity stuff rather than traditional literature? Should we include them out of a sense of condescending fairness? We may as well rename college English "The Department of Cultural Diversity, Exchange, and Progressive Politics" At least then cucks would know what they were signing up for.

You don't see this bullshit in any other faculty. African Engineering 101? Queer Math Studies?

[Anonymous No.6915725]

>>6915685
Well, college+drinking+partying=physical injuries and substance abuse so I wouldn't be surprised. Plus possible contamination by exposure to lead or whatever in old buildings.

Also add the fact that there's a margin of error on all tests (if you took two tests with same standard deviation three days apart the result would likely not be the exact same).

Add the influence of tiredness and the like (imagine how a insomnia can affect you IQ performance the following day).

Also it's possible that his first test was somehow falsified or "enabled" or whatever due to his connection.
There might also have been an error at the first or second test (I know people who had significantly lower grades than they should have had at serious national contests because the graders made a mistake in reporting the final grades on their sheets-it happens). I've seen some people on /sci claim they have gotten very different results at the same IQ tests taken over a few months. Take it with a grain of salt of course, but that's a possibility.

Unfortunately I tried to answer you seriously, so here goes my list of hilariously painful IQ-mowering diseases and injuries.

[Anonymous No.6915742]

>>6915719
Holy christ you're stupid.

I literally cannot be bothered replying seriously because I see no point in trying to convince you anymore

[Anonymous No.6915746]

>>6915459
That doesn't mean he wasn't stupid, that mean his campaign team and his donors were smarter than his opponents' campaign team and donors.

[Anonymous No.6915755]

>>6915514
>muh technical skill

The usual answer of those who have no clue. By that criterion any above-average mangaka is better than a good deal of Renaissance artists.

[Anonymous No.6915763]

>>6915746

You mean his father's campaign team and donors.

[Anonymous No.6915764]

the humanities are non-existent, though, so he was right?

[Anonymous No.6915774]

>>6915591
>start reading the wiki on Bush
>guy had alcohol and drug problems until his 40s
>got to Yale, which was then administrated by his granddad
>was refused by Texas University Law School
>but somehow got accepted to Harvard Business School

I think IQ doesn't even matter here.

[Anonymous No.6915776]

>>6915763
True. It seems that in the US the best way to become president is to first become a relatives of a former president.

[Anonymous No.6915808]

>>6915776

You know we have a saying in Texas. Fool me once shame on... shame on me? ............

[Anonymous No.6915977]

I dont't particularly care whether he's pro canon or not, but as a critic he is often platitudinous, not at all that profound, and /lit/ sucks his dick be cause it doesn't know much other critics.

[Anonymous No.6915984]

>>6915318

No, he's mocked in academia for being a reader, and addressing himself to people who want to get the best without having to listen to three years of cultural treachery.

[Anonymous No.6916008]

>>6915977
>but as a critic he is often platitudinous,
Examples?
>not at all that profound
That's true. I feel his work on Shakespeare is decent, though I may be misremembering. Anyway, hasn't he published a few purely academic works? It's no surprise that his pop criticism like Daemon is a bit simple.

[Anonymous No.6916038]

Can anyone comment on works by Bloom that they have actually read?

Personally I have read half of the Anxiety of Influence. I thought it had some good ideas but was not scholarly. It's just impressionistic and unprecise. He's even got these cringeworthy prose poems between the chapters.

I also read a bit of his Shakespeare book and thought it was enjoyable but, again, not scholarly. His style has mellowed with age. He makes more sense now although he's also more bland and less interesting than he used to be.

Although I have mixed feelings about his work you have to admire the man himself. He has something that he believes in. I legitimately feel bad for him when he talks about getting booed at lectures and shit like that.

[Anonymous No.6916163]

>>6915318
Academia itself is mocked and downgraded for nearly two decades. Between 2006 and 2011, the number of history majors at Cornell dropped 49% and English majors dropped 37%. Yale lost 60% of its English majors between 1991 and 2012. People are fleeing and completely disregarding the left-leaning multiculturalist academy. Humanities lost any credence and nobody cares anymore about their opinion. When I open a linguistics journal, I always end up finding ideological papers which have nothing to do with a serious, academic work. In the field of sociolinguistics or psycholinguistics, it's even worst. Humanities departments are shrinking and no longer have any reputation. All they're doing is congratulating themselves about their obscure theories that people already don't take seriously anymore and soon will probably being hostile to. H. Bloom will remain. Your nonsensical, laughable humanities teachers won't.

[Anonymous No.6916192]

>>6916038
>not having read his fan fiction

[Anonymous No.6916299]

>>6915591
>buzzwords
>can't give citations
Objectively wrong.
Also, 123 doesn't seem high enough for a president. Only 23% higher than average and wants to run muh country?
I don't think so. 140 and up for me, please.

[Anonymous No.6916327]

Bloom actually reads.
Which is actually, actually AKTUALLY GUYS

rare in a modern English department.

[Anonymous No.6916336]

"We can be reluctant to recognize how much of our culture was literary, particularly now that so many of the institutional purveyors of literature happily have joined in proclaiming its death. A substantial number of Americans who believe they worship God actually worship three major literary characters: the Yahweh of the J Writer (earliest author of Genesis, Exodus, Numbers), the Jesus of the Gospel of Mark, and Allah of the Koran."

[Anonymous No.6916656]

>>6915692
>muh market value is literary value
This is the problem with America.

[Anonymous No.6916704]

>>6915650
>Obviously apparent in no one being able to fucking decide what the actual canon is.

Not true. People might diverge on the value of one writer or another, but the canon is pretty well stablished. No one denies Homer, Hesiod, Aeschilus, Euripides, Sophocles, Virgil, Horace, Dante, Petrarca, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Milton, Goethe, Tolstoy or Joyce a place in the canon.

Some may criticize or hate these authors, like Pound with Milton, or Tolstoy with Shakespeare, but even these people have bothered to study them for long periods because they recognized they reading something worth studying. Something whose style and techniques they didn't agree with, but worth studying nonetheless.

And the disagreements are much less common than disagreements in ethics, for instance. Take five important authors - say Shskespeare, Donne, Tennyson, Eliot, and Nabokov - the vast majority of people who know literature think they're good, even though there se some who don't. Now take five moral issues - abortion, Iraq war, euthanasia, gay marriage, global warming - here, disagreement is much more widespread.

Teaching a course on lit where Maya Angelou takes the place of Seamus Heaney is like teaching a 'course on morality' where rules like 'Don't kill' and 'Don't steal from others' are substitute by 'Don't use the N word' and 'Don't say fat people are ugly'.

[Anonymous No.6916728]

>>6916704
Which N word? Nigger or nipples?

[Anonymous No.6916767]

>>6916728
noodles

[Anonymous No.6916775]

>>6916767
That's not a swear.

[Anonymous No.6916888]

>>6916775
Neither is nigger.

[Anonymous No.6917120]

>>6916704
You were going well until you sperged out in the last paragraph.

Why do /pol/tards also just end up resorting to hyperbolic scenarios about black people?

[Anonymous No.6917133]

>>6916704
Define the canon

Define it's limits, or its requirements

Whose opinions do we take into regard? Just academics? Or academics and readers?

Do we only take the opinions of academics that prefer Shakespeare over Angelou? Do we disregard the other? If so, why?

[Anonymous No.6917322]

>>6916704
>Shskespeare, Donne, Tennyson, Eliot, and Nabokov
> abortion, Iraq war, euthanasia, gay marriage, global warming

ah. and how can we put these on a scale and say they are equal in ANY regard. The only equivalence is they are the first 5 examples *you* thought of

false equivalency, ur base logic is flawed.

[Anonymous No.6917369]

>>6915361

PLEB
L
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[Anonymous No.6917395]

>>6917369
>>>/tumblr/ with your nigger shit.

[Anonymous No.6917398]

>>6917395
/pol/ is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917403]

>>6917398
>waaaah
Fucking anti-racist Americucks

[Anonymous No.6917406]

>>6915584
>Saying there is a European tradition of literature and philosophy isn't a racial thing, dude, calm down.
I suggest you calm down and actually read the post you responded to, as it didn't say that. The point is that Bloom's canon is geo-political, it doesn't represent a "European tradition" nor any special love for "white men". Hence, Western canon.

[Anonymous No.6917411]

>>6917403
/pol/ is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917414]

>>6917411
Dumblr is leaking again.

[Anonymous No.6917421]

>>6917414
/pol/ is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917425]

>>6916704
>Teaching a course on lit where Maya Angelou takes the place of Seamus Heaney is like teaching a 'course on morality' where rules like 'Don't kill' and 'Don't steal from others' are substitute by 'Don't use the N word' and 'Don't say fat people are ugly'.
So it's just another course on morality/literature, gotcha.

[Anonymous No.6917428]

>>6917421
Reddit is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917429]

>>6917428
/pol/ is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917433]

>>6917429
Buzzfeed is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917437]

>>6917433
/pol/ is leaking again

[Anonymous No.6917456]

>>6915557
>Muh political voice
>Preferring oligarchs whose interests go well beyong their countrie's well being.

[Anonymous No.6917458]

>>6917398
>>6917411
>>6917414
>>6917421
>>6917428
>>6917429
>>6917429
>>6917433
>>6917437
LEAKIN AGAIN
CALL IT PISSIN IN THE SNOW, THEN

YOUNG MULLA BABY

[Anonymous No.6917472]

>>6917458
Waddub muh nigga bitch?

[Anonymous No.6917480]

>>6917456
Implying the monarchs give a fuck about anything except their position