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>people who complain about the "misuse of words"
>people who complain about the "degradation of language"
>people who complain about homophobia being misused because it has to imply fear
>people who think a language can be better than any other
>people who think the dictionary gives the one true official meaning of words
>people who think "could care less" is wrong
>people who think that asians are better at math due to language and blacks stupid due to language

>> No.6913524

>>6913505
the thing with homophobia is that usually some bigot's hatred is more than likely rooted in some sort of fear

>> No.6913530
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>people who think grammatical rules don't matter
>people who think ease of understanding amongst native speakers is more important than the consistency of a language's rules
>people who think language is about conveying meaning as lazily as possible and not about eliminating ambiguity
>people who think misuse of a phrase changes the meaning of the phrase rather than the meaning of the statement
l m a o

>> No.6913542

>>6913524
>baseless claims: the post
another one for the filter

>> No.6913555

>>6913530
>rules
>eliminating ambiguity
>misuse

DING DING DING, you have reached full linguistic incapacity
How does it feel to have an entire field of study against you?

>> No.6913560

>>6913555
>How does it feel to have an entire field of study against you?
Like smooth lips on my dick

Nice trips, by the way.

>> No.6913563

>>6913560
thanks

>> No.6913674

>>6913505
chomsky says bump

>> No.6913738

>>6913505
I'd fuck Chomsky recursivly

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>alot

>> No.6914092

>>6913505
I'd say the the whole idea of prescriptivism vs. descriptivism is a moot point

>> No.6914190

>>6914092
What about the fact that there are no prescriptivist linguists anymore?
Prescriptivism is appropriate only for certain circumstances and goals. One important goal of language as an example is communication over a large space and over a long timespan.

It's no moot point at all between the two. The problem's just that some people are being prescriptivists where it's neither needed nor appropriate. They fail to recognize that because they keep saying bullshit like "pure" language, overuse, loss of meaning, etc etc. Worst of all, they're often extremely smug and pseudo-intellectual.

>> No.6914799

>>6913530
>this guy.

hahaha. what a fucking joke. Yeah. Fagtron. Keep repeating that "rules" matter.

>> No.6914814

>>6914799
alright

checked

>> No.6914932

>>6913530
>implying language doesn't change over time based on culture

>> No.6914939

>>6913505
>i just learnt about prescriptivism vs descriptivism i am very smart: the post

>> No.6914950

"Man thinks himself the master of language, but language is the master of man." -- Heidegger

Sapfir-Worf is unfortunately correct, and the PCNWO know exactly what they're doing when they redefine and select terminology.

I used to be a prescriptivist, but now that I see the truth-and-clarity seeking traditional empirical academics have been replaced by dishonest political activists, I am literally a descriptivist again.

>> No.6914952

>>6913505
>thinking just because a discipline had a paradigm shift towards descriptivism occur, that normative claims are "wrong"
>>which is itself a normative claim
>deriving an ought from an is

SHIGGY

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>>6914950
>Sapfir-Worf is unfortunately correct

>> No.6914990

>>6914973
Orwell was right, brah.
Ever wonder why North Korea is officially the DPRK--"The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea?"

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>>6914990
>Orwell was right

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>>6913505
Sub-saharans are not stupid because their language does not have words for most mathematical concepts.

They are stupid because they were not able to conceive of most mathematical concepts.

>> No.6915101

>>6914994
Meme-face + quote + zero argument.

>> No.6916416

>>6914939
except no

>> No.6916425

>>6915101
>/lit/'s magic formula

Shit works every time, tbh

>> No.6916428

>>6914952
I wrote in an other comment that prescriptivism has its appropriate use, depending on goal and context. There is nothing inherently wrong in prescriptivism at all, it's the way people use it in their daily life or in the way the perceive language.