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Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:43:02 2015 No.6909829 [Reply] [Original]

Shortly before his death, Richard Rorty wrote a piece called "The Fire of Life," in which he meditates on his pancreatic cancer diagnosis and the comfort of poetry.

He concludes:

>I now wish that I had spent somewhat more of my life with verse. This is not because I fear having missed out on truths that are incapable of statement in prose. There are no such truths; there is nothing about death that Swinburne and Landor knew but Epicurus and Heidegger failed to grasp. Rather, it is because I would have lived more fully if I had been able to rattle off more old chestnuts—just as I would have if I had made more close friends. Cultures with richer vocabularies are more fully human—farther removed from the beasts—than those with poorer ones; individual men and women are more fully human when their memories are amply stocked with verses.

Why aren't you reading poetry, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:45:21 2015 No.6909842 File: 2.98 MB, 1800x3250, 1438034286744.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6909829 I am, anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:47:24 2015 No.6909848 I don't get poetry

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:48:07 2015 No.6909855 Anyone know a good collection of the best English-language poetry for a complete noob? Any tips on how to into/understand poetry?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:51:25 2015 No.6909867 >>6909855 camille paglia break blow burn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:51:49 2015 No.6909871 >>6909848 >>6909855 What's there not to get? It's sensuous painting with words. You're supposed to feel something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:52:59 2015 No.6909881 >>6909842 Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:53:36 2015 No.6909884 >>6909871 But I feel nothing

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Anonymous Fri Jul 31 20:54:53 2015 No.6909891
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>>6909871
>you're supposed to feel something
this is a very elementary understanding of poetry. there are entire schools established as a reaction to poetry about "feeling something"

>>6909855

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:05:06 2015 No.6909951 >taking the opinions of american "people" seriously

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:07:06 2015 No.6909962 >>6909951 this is an american imageboard, eurosissy LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:09:16 2015 No.6909969 >>6909962 It's a universal weeb imageboard tbh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:11:22 2015 No.6909978 >>6909891 >>6909842 let this age of shitposting be called the Flower School

>>	Tai Lopez Fri Jul 31 21:15:43 2015 No.6909991 >>6909829 I wonder what anti-perspirant Rorty used.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:17:53 2015 No.6910000 >>6909991 lady speed stick

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:17:54 2015 No.6910001 What are some authors who wrote esoteric or mystical or obscure poetry? I've read rimbaud and blake if that narrows it down.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:35:15 2015 No.6910093 >>6910001 Rumi. Best poet ever, bar none.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 21:37:04 2015 No.6910097 File: 43 KB, 480x552, MJRgallery0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6910093 wats up with dis ngiga cone head lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:11:43 2015 No.6910276 >>6910093 Which works should I read? Can those outside of the faith derive anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:17:31 2015 No.6910298 >more fully human Stirner literally spent about half of The Ego and Its Own busting this specific spook.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:19:10 2015 No.6910305 >>6910298 stirner was literally wrong about literally everything

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:20:09 2015 No.6910310 >>6910305 how so, according to you?

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Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:24:03 2015 No.6910325

>>6910276

I'm not sufi or muslim, so of course there's something to take from it. His poetry is intelligent, poignant, and moving. . . Coleman Barks' Collected Rumi is a great book. He groups poems together and prefaces them with fascinating anecdotes from the poet's life, which was both saintly, earthly, and tragic.

Plus, considering the audience here, he has a poetic allegory about a maidservant mounting a donkey. From that, he manages to distill wisdom. It's like alchemy, or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:24:54 2015 No.6910330 File: 117 KB, 500x649, tiziano-martini-03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6909829 tfw the only two pieces of verse you know are a random Charles Wright poem, and Hitch quoting Dowson quoting Horace, "I'm not as I was..."

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:26:04 2015 No.6910332 File: 560 KB, 1920x1200, 1430898903680.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6909867 is it as fucking choppy and fast and she speaks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 01:40:02 2015 No.6911123 >>6909871 I bet you are a free verse fag with no knowledge or appreciation of all the forms of poerty that came before. Fuck off and go masturbate with your Bukoswki poems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 01:42:06 2015 No.6911134 >>6910298 Congratulations, you got yourself memed, what's the next step of your master plan? Seriously, though, you took the meme way too seriously.

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Anonymous Sat Aug 1 03:21:24 2015 No.6911417

>>6910001
Rilke's Sonnets and Elegies are very mystical in a sense but not in the new age sense that some of his more recent readers have taken.

Some of Pessoa's heteronym's are very mystical in their approach to relating oneself to the world.

Mallarme is terribly obscure, though perhaps not in the mystic sense that you're looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 03:48:10 2015 No.6911471 >>6910001 You may enjoy Yeats.