/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6899680]

Do people ever assume you are from a wealthy family because you are well-read and cultured?

[Anonymous No.6899688]

No because 99% of people from my region are descended from farmers/fishermen

[Anonymous No.6899692]

>>6899680
>implying you won't get your ass beat for being a nonce if you prance around pretending to be well-read and cultured

[Anonymous No.6899696]

Do old-money style wealthy families even exist in the public eye anymore? The only time I ever hear about one of them is when a Kennedy dies.

[Anonymous No.6899700]

>>6899680
No. Because weathy, well-read, cultured people don't go around spouting pretentious vomit everywhere.

[Anonymous No.6899716]

>>6899680
No, but being from a wealthy family definitely helped with becoming cultured and well-read.
Not that I think I'm any smarter than the average guy, but I'm deeply grateful for the education I have received.

[Anonymous No.6899764]

>>6899696
Word is that the crash of '29 scared them out of the whole monocle and cane thing. Now the upper middle class do the open swaggering.

[Anonymous No.6899790]

People scoff at my hobbies as try hard because I'm a poorfag. I just want a nice dimly lit study will bookshelf lined walls and nice leather furniture, with a general nautical feel. Is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.6899929]

>>6899696
Extreme discretion and old money usually go hand in hand.

[Anonymous No.6900204]

>>6899790
>People scoff at my hobbies as try hard because I'm a poorfag.
Still can't admit to liking Chopin because of this.

[Anonymous No.6900211]

>>6900204
if you were rich, people would also think you were a tryhard for listening to chopin

[Anonymous No.6900215]

>>6899680
It happens.
I dress sharp despite being poorfag and express myself half-decently, and everyone assumes I'm some kind of bourgeois.

[Anonymous No.6900242]

Not in real life, though plenty of insults of bourgeoisie on the internet.

I have a noticeable Texan accent, so no one I speak to offline ever thinks I'm rich. And they probably have trouble thinking I'm well-read too.

[Anonymous No.6900252]

Only during the Winter when I bother to dress well.

[Anonymous No.6900270]

>>6899790
You will be the pioneering man in your legacy, and people will sneer at you as they did Calixtus III. Only your children will be seen as rich and cultured.

[Anonymous No.6900278]

>>6899696
Yes but do to the contemporary political climate they tend to stay even more reserved than usual. Not to mention how spread outany families are now do to generations coming and going.

[Anonymous No.6900298]

How wealthy are we talking? 100M in assets?

[Anonymous No.6900317]

>>6899680
Nope, but that's because I can hold a normal conversation without derailing it to talk about what I'm reading.

[Anonymous No.6900331]

>>6900317
If you deliberately withhold your personal interests to the point that they are effectively secrets, then you're not having normal conversations.

[Anonymous No.6900353]

>>6900298
Sheesh. More in the neighbourhood of a million. Not powerful, not lavish if you have children, useless siblings or elders to feed and house, but pretty comfy.

[Anonymous No.6900359]

>>6900298
For most people, "wealthy" means having one million (maybe even less)

Personally, I think the strict minimum to be "wealthy" is around 10M

[Anonymous No.6900360]

>>6900331
>tfw

How do I have real relationships with people?
I've got a single friend who lives a day's drive away from me. every other part of my life is fine, but the loneliness doesn't go away

[Anonymous No.6900376]

>>6900353
One million isn't really wealthy, you can't live off your dividends (say 3% = $2,500 per month pre-tax) comfortably

[Anonymous No.6900390]

>>6900353
>>6900359
Really, I figured wealthy means 'your kids won't have to work a day in their lives if they don't want to'

[Anonymous No.6900392]

No, but they assume I major in STEM because of my nasal voice and ugly glasses

[Anonymous No.6900436]

>>6900390
Yes, this is the only relevant metric. Whether or not a kid has a trust fund and can devote time and their education to the arts.

In 2015, for young males, reading literature is going to be considered strange. Even to rich folk

[Anonymous No.6900464]

>>6899680
Unrecognized richfag here. No, because I'm from a part of Alabama where rich people try to be as anti-intellectual as possible, so even when I went to private school it was often assumed that I was on academic scholarship (no such thing at that school). Besides the anti-intellectual climate, I was from outside the city, so people assumed I was poor because they didn't see a big house in their neighborhood to prove it.

After that, I went to an elite New England University, and suddenly people were asking personal finance questions when they realized how much it cost (nobody from around here sends their kids to real private universities without scholarship).

I was completely unremarkable, financially, at university. People at university were smart enough to recognize that I seemed well read because I read a lot of books, so no stereotyping there.

Out in the real world now, being cultured helps get laid with quality women (probably means they think I'm rich) and impresses older people.

[Anonymous No.6900495]

No I dress like a slob and am not white. And they assume right.

[Anonymous No.6900558]

>>6900464
ugh

>>>/reddit/ is that way

[Anonymous No.6900612]

>>6900558
Plenty of richfags on 4chan, buddy.

I don't like using terms like "anti-intellectual" or calling myself well-read and cultured but that's the topic of the thread. If that's reddit, go back to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6900635]

>>6900376
Only poor people have a 3% interest on assets. Wealthy people invest and can reliably make 10% simply by buying index mutual funds. This is the real reason poorfags stay poor, shitty financial sense.

[Anonymous No.6900669]

>>6900635
Yup. It would limit the growth of my portfolio to zero, but one can spend $100k on actually less than a million in assets. As it is you can see very comfortable portfolio growth and still spend the 70th percentile of US household income per annum.

>Poorfags and manlets, when will they learn?

[Anonymous No.6900691]

LOL NO ONE ON THIS BOARD IS WELL READ AND CULTURED

GET OVER YOURSELVES YOU PART TIME PLEBEIANS

[Anonymous No.6900755]

>>6900635
>hur dur if you're poor you deserve lol! it why don't they just buy more money? lol!
Poor people can't afford to invest in index stocks because they need the money in a more liquid form in case of emergency. So they save instead of invest. Stop with this false meritocracy bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6900814]

>>6899680
Yes.
I feel kind of strange when they do because I'm not even attractive.

[Anonymous No.6900819]

I am wealthy

[Anonymous No.6900822]

>>6900669
>tfw both poorfag and manlet

Living life on hard mode

[Anonymous No.6900842]

>>6900755
I didn't say it was right, or even justify it. I just explained why poor people are poor, bad financial skills leads to poverty which keeps you from gaining knowledge of how to manage money well. The poor-people-turned-rich of today are either incredibly lucky or they devoted themselves to better financial ideals. Also, marginal dollar blah blah blah, but latte factor is most prevalent in poor people.

[hemmy No.6901082]

No

[Anonymous No.6901345]

>>6899680
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[Anonymous No.6901623]

>>6899680

No, they assume I'm a socially handicapped nerd.

[Anonymous No.6901689]

>>6900691
>he doesn't pleb full time
nerd alert

[Anonymous No.6901741]

>>6899680
yes

unless
>>6901623

being white helps

[Anonymous No.6901759]

No. People assume I am from a wealthy family because I speak "posh". I'm from a working-class area and I get made fun of for mentioning books. Life is pain.

[Anonymous No.6901776]

i think most of it is the way i dress / carry myself as opposed to what i've read, and probably being white doesn't hurt either

but whenever friends visit me at my parents state house they see me in a different light afterwards it's really interesting

[Anonymous No.6901782]

>>6899680
yes.

[Anonymous No.6902273]

>>6900635
>HURRRRRR

You just went full retard.

I'm not talking about a total return of 3%, I'm talking about DIVIDENDS of 3%, which is what your average index fund will yield, sometimes even less (protip: you don't need to be wealthy to buy SPY or VOO).

You wouldn't want to live off y-your capital gains by cashing them out each year, r-right Anon?

>>6900669
>he thinks 10% capital gains p.a. are a God-given right that will occur invariably each year

Good luck paying your bills when the stock market takes a -15% hit :^)

[Anonymous No.6902289]

>>6900842
>bad financial skills leads to poverty
No, poverty means you don't have access to even think about finance. You're using all the income you get. Knowing the best way to manage your money isn't going to help when you can't stretch it any farther.

Again, take your bullshit meritocracy and kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6902301]

>>6899680

Nope, because if the conversation is ever brought up, I'm happy to admit I'm the son of a truck-driver. Somehow, coming from "the salt of the earth" is a blessing in disguises. It offsets the beat of pretentiousness found in higher conversations. You can sense the delusional idiosyncrasies of those who come from wealthy means.

I would argue some of the best classic literature indirectly escapes those who have never known what it is like to be poor, or raised poor. They can't empathize or sympathize with certain characters fears, doubts, aggressions, humor, or actions.

[Anonymous No.6902322]

I'm 19 years old.

I am handsome, smart, athletic and virile.

I have a novel that is in it's final editing stage, and a creative writing professor at my college has read the first draft and thinks it's saleable.

I have a girlfriend who is confident, articulate, playful and spontaneous.

I have a small group of interesting friends from different social and academic backgrounds, and I also have many other acquaintances who see me as a reliable source of humour and good company.

Both my parents are alive and in good health.

I have no regrets.

I have already experienced three existential crises, the latter of which was described as having the depth and profundity of a man twice my age.

I am a passionate lover, a sharp thinker, and a trader of witty repartee.

I am not self-pitying, meek or needlessly humble.

I will live a good life at your expense.

[Anonymous No.6902325]

>>6902322

Good God, to be 19 again.

[Anonymous No.6902326]

>>6902322
nice pasta

[Anonymous No.6902327]

>>6902322
Your a idiot

[Anonymous No.6902329]

>>6902273
Finance noob here. Do you factor appreciating stock prices into the return? Because I though the non-day trader approach to stocks was mostly about buying and holding except in rare cases. And what I know about index funds suggests that they aren't really intended for profiting from volatile prices.

I've done some calculation, and it looks like a 5% return is a reasonable minimum expectation if you buy a house/apartment and rent it out. Is this common as a long term investment strategy? I've always had the impression that real estate required a lot more patience than the stock market.

[Anonymous No.6902331]

>>6900376
So millionaires typically still work jobs?

[Anonymous No.6902336]

Old money here: meaning I never have to worry about money or work really for the rest of my life. I have a nominal role in a relative's company but I only work an average of 10 hours a week. It's true what an earlier poster said about high-quality females and reading. Old money chicks wiho are guilty for being rich are great readers and tend to be rebellious and fun. Eventually they all settle down and marry a trader or a broker or some shit but eh, who am I to complain? I'm currently working on finish off my novel, and my father has a contact in two major houses who will give priority to reading and evaluating my work. Life is good when you're rich. It's very easy not to allow it to make you into a douchebag also, which is why I / we find the kind of anti-wealth comments from poor people so hilarious. It's pathetic, really.

[Anonymous No.6902357]

>>6900755
This

[Anonymous No.6902459]

>>6902336
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[Anonymous No.6902492]

People assume I'm rich because of my huge swingin' nuts

[Anonymous No.6902506]

>>6902459
Lame.

On the thread topic:
My interest in Racine would be considered even worse than my interest in Shakespeare, so that's double-suppressed.
Sophocles is under a level of suppression that creates diamonds.

[Anonymous No.6902517]

No, because I'm very class conscious and speak with a noticeable accent

[Anonymous No.6902628]

>>6900215
>express myself half-decently
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.6902639]

>>6902628
I just try to be a well-spoken person and not to make autistic grammatical mistakes.

[Anonymous No.6902703]

>>6902289
>being this mad about being a poor useless pleb

Why don't you go read some Thoreau and continue believing money is evil

[Anonymous No.6903394]

>>6902639
>autistic
This is such a versatile word. Almost as useful as "bad." But much more peppy.

[Anonymous No.6903544]

I've got a very working class background. Luckily my parents homeschooled me so I was able to get a decent, classically focused, education.

Anyways I lived in France briefly as a teenager and befriended a lot of the rich kids in the private school. Because I was well read, had a good taste in Chanson, etc. I was able to pass under the radar despite being several magnitudes poorer than all of them.

Actually whenever I travel I end up hanging around people much richer than me. It's a nice life. I forget who I am and get lost in philosophical banter and cute borjois girls.

Then I go back to my home town, and suddenly I'm just an awkward loser and everybody works blue color jobs and people would rather do meth than read a book in their downtime.

My dream is to become a con artist in a major metropolitan city. The only thing I really have going for me is cultural capital, I figure if I start selling forged paintings or something I could turn that capital into cold hard cash.

[Anonymous No.6903630]

>>6903394
He used the word autistic very autistically.

[Anonymous No.6903687]

>>6902329
Real estate requires more patience not because of the time span but because of the effort involved. Stocks don't call you at four am to complain that their shower head has one stream slightly out of alignment and asking for compensation for it.

[Anonymous No.6903720]

>>6899688
dubs just stole the words off my tongue

[Anonymous No.6903729]

>>6899680
In my
country only
the Poor do the
reading, the rich
have their
swag

[Anonymous No.6903841]

>>6903544
>Actually whenever I travel I end up hanging around people much richer than me. It's a nice life. I forget who I am and get lost in philosophical banter and cute borjois girls.
How do you find yourself in these situations? It sounds right up my alley.

[Anonymous No.6904028]

No. The assumption of wealth is based mostly in subtle, or not so subtle, physical signs, like the straightness and whiteness of your teeth, the type, e.g yuppie, of clothing, the fit and cleanliness of the clothing, the general appearence of health, e.g lack of acne, good hair, decent weight, and, lastly, context, and by that I mean, are you in an upscale hotel bar?