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>2015
>being a materialist

>> No.6894363

>2015
>Being a metaphysician

>> No.6894388

Aristotle both invented and transcended materialism. After the Aristotelian scholastics went, it was all downhill from there.

>> No.6894389

>>6894361
>>6894363
>2015
>not recognizing and unifying the two, transcending divisive, illusive polarity

There is a better way.

>> No.6894401

>>6894389
>2015
>Being a Hegelian
>Not being a Schellingian

You've got your dialectic the wrong way around. You're on the right track though, idealism and materialism are both metaphysical doctrines, that is exactly what I meant by my post.

>> No.6894404

>>6894401
I haven't read either.

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>>6894404

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>>6894388
>Aristotle shills

I know your life is useless, but your 'knowledge' (using that lightly here) doesn't have to be useless as well.

Apply yourself.

>> No.6894417

>>6894408
Mysticism goes beyond philosophy. That is all I have to say to you.

>> No.6894429

>>6894417
>Implying Schelling wasn't both a mystic and a philosopher
>Implying his work isn't a continuation and a refinement of the secret Western dialectical-hermetic tradition
>Implying the opposites do not issue from the One

Bruh.

>> No.6894440

>function concatenate(a,b) { print(a + "" + b); } concatenate(((2*5)*2), ((5^2)-5))
>being a i-can't-overcome-my-christian-upbringing-and-belief-in-the-afterlife-so-i-will-just-hold-on-to-a-prominent-logician's-metaphysical-argument-that-pain-is-not-identical-to-the-firing-of-c-fibers

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>>6894414
>not learning based Aristotle
i know you like modern sophistries a lot, but you should read some real philosophy, kiddo

>> No.6894450

>>6894440
>(5^2)-5)
make that ((5^2)-10)

>> No.6894456

>>6894449
>read philosophy

I waste enough of my life on here, I'm not wasting the rest on conspiracy garbage made up by boirapists.

>> No.6894467

>>6894429
>knows about the reconciliation of paradoxes
Shit nigga, why didn't you just say so.

>> No.6894477

>>6894456
>boirapists
>it is claimed that socrates molested little boys
>therefore all philosophers, living or dead, molest little boys :^)

swell reasoning!

>> No.6894501

Legitimately every women in the world is materialistic and shallow.

/bread

>> No.6894515

>>6894501
Not that kind of materialism you doofus.

>> No.6894574

>>6894361
>2015
>trying to be philosofag
>2015
>still trying to be edgy and progressive by stating the arbitrary number of the year people say it currently is

>> No.6894948

>>6894361
>reality is the actualization of the ideal
wow m8 top philosophy 10/10

>> No.6894989

>>6894361
>2015
>Not a Monarchist

>> No.6895005

>>6894361

Kripke is not an idealist in any way, so I don't know why you psoted those outregious claims with a picture of him. Where you trying to make an another point?

>> No.6895009

>being essentialist
>2015

I'm looking at 99.99% of you here.

>> No.6895044

>>6895009
>2015
>NOT being an essentialist
i'm looking at you, poster

>> No.6895075

>>6894477
socrates was useless too
he touched plato
plato touched aristotle
a long line of boifuckers and mentally ill people rambling on fever dreams about nothing
Science trumps philosophy tbh
it has made philosophy much like alchemy outdated tbh

>> No.6895079

>>6895075
wow good job on that post anon

>> No.6895115

>>6895075
>implying aristotle wasnt the first scientist
nice b8 anon, made me reply

>> No.6895139

>>6895115
Wow..you are such a fucking cuck.

>> No.6895157

>>6895139
childish

>> No.6895168

>>6895139
>cuck
back to /pol/

>> No.6895171

>>6895075

Science is an epistemological model which happens to be a subgenre of Philosophy. In Isaac Newton's day, "scientists" were called Natural Philosophers.

>> No.6895172

>>6895139
Do you happen to like sonic

>> No.6895175

>>6895171
>Wrong.

Aristotle and his former cucks were all hacks making up random fucking bullshit for pedophile cities.

/thread

>> No.6895184

>>6895175
>I was just pretending

>> No.6895251

>>6894361
Every immaterialism is just materialism pretending to be something more.

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>they aren't dialectical materialists
>they aren't historical materialists
>science is wrong, everything is made of fairies!

>> No.6895299

>>6895266
americans took the job of mixing materialism with consumerism and now people is afraid of learning how story should be studied.

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6895314

All you had to do was believe and follow him.

Why didn't you listen /lit/ ?

>> No.6895315

>>6895251
>not being an Aristotelian, eliminating the material/immaterial dichotomy that plagues modern philosophy

>> No.6895317

>>6895314
I did.

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>>6894361
>committing to ontological stances

>> No.6895444

>2015
>being a literal autist

>> No.6895475

I can sympathize with idealism more than I can with materialism, but I don't think either position is tenable after giving the issue enough thought.

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>>6895475

>caring about tenability

just go with your gut

>> No.6895536

>>6895493
It's useful to do that in situations where you don't have any time to think, but philosophy is not one of them.

>> No.6895565

>>6895005
>I don't base my thinking on prejudices or a world and am not a materialist - Saul Kripke in some random interview that is avaliable online

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>>6895115
>Aristotle
>first scientist

>> No.6895663

>>6895115
>aristotle
>scientist

>> No.6895689

>>6895597
>>6895663
>Aristotle was a Greek philosopher and scientist
yeah, scientist

>> No.6895696

>>6895689
>science existed before Galileo

>> No.6895703

>>6895689
You don't have to be right to practice science.

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>>6895696

>science began when Galileo looked into a telescope

>> No.6895733

>>6895706
>premodern science
>scienc

>> No.6895740

>>6895703
of course not, most scientists nowadays are wrong about things

>> No.6895771

>>6895733
>no true science :^)

>> No.6895797

Based Aquinas