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/poetry/ Anonymous Mon Jul 27 17:58:06 2015 No.6888930 [Reply] [Original]

a chart lads, i made a chart

also /poetrygeneral/ although these things never live because nobody here cares about poetry and we have nothing to talk about

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:07:12 2015 No.6888979 Pretty good, pretty good I think you might be biased for metaphysical poetry over romantic poetry though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:09:10 2015 No.6888987 >>6888930 Do you read the other languages, such as Dante in Italian, homer in Greek, etc.? If not, I don't think you should include them in this chart

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:10:23 2015 No.6888995 Why is Whitman in two different tiers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:10:59 2015 No.6888997 File: 797 KB, 668x837, perry'spenstemon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6888987 I can read greek yes but the point in including them is that they're foundational even as translated works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:12:01 2015 No.6889006 File: 468 KB, 587x752, oxeyedaisy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6888995 Because he's both entry level and levelled up. What you get out of him depends on your level as a reader

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:12:40 2015 No.6889009 >>6888930 Saved. Thanks girl.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:12:43 2015 No.6889010 >>6888997 Oh, just saw the note in upper right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:12:49 2015 No.6889012 >>6888987 this... you should just stick to English... Having an chart of all English poets with just the greatest non English ones sprinkled in seemingly randomly is shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:14:54 2015 No.6889020 >>6888997 Can you upload to mega your flower folder? I have strange sexual attraction to small flowers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:14:59 2015 No.6889022 What makes you think you're qualified to create this ranking, OP? Why should we listen to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:15:00 2015 No.6889023 >>6888930 My favourite poem is Ozymandias by Shelley. But I haven't read too many poems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:15:11 2015 No.6889025 >>6888930 T.S. Eliot can be moved down a tier, as can Chaucer. Also, putting Dante and Ovid above Homer is actually insane.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:15:34 2015 No.6889030

>>6888930
/mu/ has convinced me that extensive charts can only do harm to a board. And maybe even charts in general.

Also, when you do tiers like this you shouldn't conflate increase in difficulty and quality, else people won't want to read anything outside of the bottom two-tiers.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:15:44 2015 No.6889033
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>>6889012
>>6888997
They're not arbitrarily chosen, or else I'd have sprinkled in Goethe, Lorca, Baudelaire, etc. The ones I did include are there because of their influence on the english poets that HAVE been included

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:17:49 2015 No.6889046 File: 431 KB, 720x531, whorledloosestrife.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889025 It's not just based on "quality" of verse, or else Pound wouldn't be in the highest tier. It's based on difficulty as well.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:20:11 2015 No.6889061

>>6889046
I see. Fair enough, stick to your guns and all. I downloaded it anyway - it's still a pretty good list. I have a slight issue with Melville being so low if this list is to do with difficulty. His poems are sometimes pretty experimental and difficult to get a grasp on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:20:38 2015 No.6889065 >>6889046 But why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:20:42 2015 No.6889067 >>6888930 Eliot should be in his own tier below the nigger one, but most of this is acceptable.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:21:32 2015 No.6889070

>>6888930
This is just fucked. I can't begin to imagine how you justify any of these,
The most difficult tier is all poets most people can read by 13. The lowest tier has a lot of important poets. The second tier has much more difficult poetry than what should be called entry level. Spencer is entry level tbh, he's good but he's not difficult. This chart basically shows you don't understand half the poetry you read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:24:16 2015 No.6889084 >>6889020 I am not joking here. It's hard to find downloadable folders of flowers on the internet. I could be satisfied even by a subfolder, or a part of the whole folder if you keep all flowers uncategorized.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:25:48 2015 No.6889088
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>>6889065
Why not?

>>6889070
some hot opinions lad, where do you find these 13 year olds reading Pound and Crane and understanding Ashbery? Even Auden didn't have a clue as to what Ashbery was saying. I don't like the cut of your jib, boyo, and Spenser being easy to read is a good laugh. Also, i don't appreciate your attitude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:27:14 2015 No.6889100 >>6889088 >I don't appreciate your attitude. Hhhoooooooooo. Let's mud wrestle girl.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:28:16 2015 No.6889108 >>6889100 I'm sorry I said this actually. The dubs redeem me though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:28:49 2015 No.6889112 this chart is fucking cancer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:30:42 2015 No.6889124 >>6889088 >why not? I think the chart should be either by quality or by difficulty. By having some weird mixture of the two, it makes it difficult to use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:30:48 2015 No.6889126 >>6889088 Well, I was one of those 13 year olds. I was friends with those 13 year olds. It was fking public school. God is this even Lit? Learn to read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:30:55 2015 No.6889129 >>6889108 >>6889100 I have a wiener, mein freund. I just like flowers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:31:54 2015 No.6889131 >>6889129 Like a cute little one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:32:13 2015 No.6889132 >>6889129 Liar. Say something manly then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:33:15 2015 No.6889136 Why is Pound in 'Mama's proud tier' but Elliot is in the top tier. Elliot was in awe of Pound's brilliance. Needs revision.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:35:14 2015 No.6889141

>>6889124
Quality is a difficult thing to measure. It usually just boils down to the author of the chart's favorite poets.

>>6889126
And my IQ is 286 and I have a six foot dick. Also I own the Boston Celtics and have four wives.
I don't buy that a thirteen year old has the reading experience to decipher Ashbery when a grown man who has spent his life reading and writing and publishing poetry has difficulty doing so, and the others are difficult even for men with experience. Nice bait though, I replied

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:35:53 2015 No.6889145 Where were you the day when /lit/ became /mu/ tier?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:36:01 2015 No.6889148 >>6889132 This is a good catch. Because even if she is a guy she can't prove it 'cause males on /lit/ aren't manly. Kazam!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:36:21 2015 No.6889152 File: 285 KB, 889x1126, pepe_de_aquino.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6888930 I had no idea St. Edmund Campion was a poet. My cursory googling yields no results. Am I being rused? St. Ignatius Pepe when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:36:36 2015 No.6889154 >>6889136 Mama's proud tier is the top

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:37:27 2015 No.6889159 >>6889136 >Elliot was in awe of Pound's brilliance. wouldnt this b why pound is higher than eliot? i think ur misreading the chart m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:38:15 2015 No.6889161 >>6889141 God are you serious? Maybe I was just lucky to have those friends and a teacher that could read english? Goodluck, maybe one day you can get through a whole Judy Blume book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:38:52 2015 No.6889166 >>6889154 Girl please don't abondon the pretty flowers. What have you away anyway was your opening post, I have an eye for these things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:39:02 2015 No.6889167 File: 292 KB, 720x457, noddingonion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889132 I'm an alcoholic coke dealer and I enjoy boxing. This is the truth >>6889148 Damn... >>6889152 Thomas Campion, amigo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:50:01 2015 No.6889216 File: 888 KB, 1600x1237, 1422391652179.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889167 >Thomas Campion, amigo Best change your image. That pic is indubitably St. Edmund Campion, SJ, viz. cassock, noose and knife in his breast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:51:05 2015 No.6889221 >>6889216 You're right, but I want theologyfags to suffer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:54:51 2015 No.6889237 There was a poet mentioned in one of these threads with the first name John and possibly a last name beginning with an H? He appeared by his poetry devoutly religious. Definitely English. Anybody know?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:55:57 2015 No.6889246
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>>6889152
>>6889167
>>6889216

And so you don't just think I'm a salty pedantic fuck, let me add that, on the whole, you have excellent taste.
'Levelled Up Tier' is topnotch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 18:55:58 2015 No.6889247 >>6889237 Jesus Christ I'm an idiot. He's in the chart. Gerard Manley Hopkins. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:01:54 2015 No.6889265 File: 109 KB, 500x466, 1425001598976.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889221 In which case I retract >>6889246 Pox on you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:03:07 2015 No.6889268 File: 515 KB, 720x483, carolinaspringbeauty.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889246 No hard feelings lad, someone might change it or I might eventually but I like having a little flavor eh so I'm gonna leave it for now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:09:29 2015 No.6889289 >>6888930 completely arbitrary /lit/ sure has gone down the toilet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:10:33 2015 No.6889292 >>6889289 same

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:11:14 2015 No.6889295

>>6888930
Give me a moderator partridge-plump,
Short in the leg and broad in the rump,
An endomorph with gentle hands
Who'll never make absurd demands
That I abandon all my vices
Nor pull a long face in a crisis,
But's gonna tell straightly & offhand:
"OP's a faggot, also the OP is b&"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:13:32 2015 No.6889310 >>6889289 Whenever somebody doesn't put Milton at the top of the foodchain, you know they haven't a clue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:14:36 2015 No.6889314 >>6889310 OP hasn't read 90% of the poets in the chart, so that's to be expected. He's "ranking" them based on the reputation he gathers from the opinions of others. It's complete trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:16:08 2015 No.6889318 >>6889310 >>6889314 true

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:18:27 2015 No.6889327

>>6889314
Rate the poets you've read. I would but that would get me doxxed in no time. So I'd rather rank poets, if I had the time, by extraction: kings on top, then courtiers, then nobles, then the clergymen followed by the moneyed plebs etc. all the way down to the gutter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:20:54 2015 No.6889338 Am I a retard or is Rimbaud not even mentioned in the chart?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:22:59 2015 No.6889348 >>6889338 you are a retard. that you can tell by clinging to old europe still although all genes worth something have long left to seek their fortunes in america.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:24:23 2015 No.6889353 >>6889348 You realize that's a critique that holds true of the chart, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:27:33 2015 No.6889370 File: 442 KB, 436x968, dwarflarkspur.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6889314 Jokes on you I've never even read a book in my entire life. >>6889310 Maybe you should read the thread lad >>6889338 Note >>6889348 >>6889353 Wasn't my reply

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:53:36 2015 No.6889515

>>6888930
OP, I really suggest that you read the Paris Review's interview with Ashbery. His approach to poetry is surprising and refreshing, and I think it might help put you off from participating in this board's toxic culture (e.g., treating literature as a competition to which rankings can be applied). He never intended to be especially difficult, and there is no mystical knowledge to be decoded by "making sense of" his poems. They say what they mean, and convey feelings and experiences directly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 19:55:26 2015 No.6889525 >>6889515 I've read the interview already. I've read the interviews of all the poets from paris review

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:06:27 2015 No.6889556

>>6889525
Yeah they seem to be quite good, the only ones I've read are Ashbery and Gaddis, but I plan on seeking out more. But anyway, how do you read that and, in seeing that such an acclaimed and skilled poet is so humble and unassuming, not become humbled yourself? How do you retain the hubris necessary to present your opinions as universal truths?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:09:03 2015 No.6889568 >>6889556 He explains it as just being shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:16:41 2015 No.6889592 >>6888930 Tier 4: Merwin Based chart

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:24:53 2015 No.6889613

>>6888930

>Bishop low tier
>Williams low tier
>Shakespeare, Milton anything but Mama's proud
>Ashberry Mama's proud and not wtf are you doing
>Swinburne seriously
>Whitman not entry
>Crane so high up
>Stevens so low

You're that hart crane thread faggot aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:26:34 2015 No.6889618 >>6888930 Why is O'Hara the same tier as Bukowski?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:26:49 2015 No.6889622
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>>6889556
It's just a chart that's based mostly on difficulty. Nothing universal about it amigo, you don't like it then don't read it.

Their interviews are grand, I love the Faulkner interview. You should check it out if you haven't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:28:47 2015 No.6889628 >>6889613 >dur my taste should be the chart Ur dumb, boy. It's not an image about our favorite posts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:57:31 2015 No.6889726 yes, read a bunch of Renaissance and romantic poetry before Shakespeare, Homer, Virgil, Ovid, and Dante. Great Idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:58:55 2015 No.6889730 >>6889726 yeah this chart is all about the order u should read them in, it says so right there in red ink

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:02:47 2015 No.6889740 >>6889515 That's not really the case for all poets though. Didn't Elliot argue poetry should be only for the bourgeoisie?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:08:00 2015 No.6889759

>>6888930
I hate charts. Charts are the ultimate in discussing a thing without actually discussing anything. There is no need to have read a single book in your life to make or discuss a chart, these threads are cheap masturbatory conflict hiding as a discussion of literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:08:16 2015 No.6889761 >>6888930 Try-hard pedestrian-tier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:13:07 2015 No.6889776 >>6889759 I love charts tbh fam

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:14:15 2015 No.6889778 >>6889776 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:14:38 2015 No.6889780 >>6889778 They're nice to look at

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:15:22 2015 No.6889784 >>6889780 How do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:16:01 2015 No.6889788 >>6889784 My eyes are happy when they are pointed at a chart

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:16:31 2015 No.6889789 >>6889788 How's that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:27:25 2015 No.6889830 wats good about ezra pound

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:28:28 2015 No.6889834 utter shite tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:32:00 2015 No.6889851 >>6888930 Bishop shouldn't be this low.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:35:33 2015 No.6889865 Yeah this is shit who would you recommend if I love: Wordsworth, Byron, Donne, Eliot, Pound and hate: Milton, Pope, Keats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:36:39 2015 No.6889870 >only black poets in the chart are in the lowest tier cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:40:21 2015 No.6889881 >>6889870 >sole criticism is over the quantity of poets of a particular race gross

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:41:41 2015 No.6889889 >>6889865 I'd recommend suicide >>6889830 dunno but this chart doesn't say he's good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:42:09 2015 No.6889892 >>6889865 Hate Keats? I'd recommend you to get some fucking taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:42:23 2015 No.6889893 >>6889881 there's hundreds of reasons why the chart isn't any good. that one hasn't been mentioned so I posted it. quit projecting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:43:48 2015 No.6889899 >>6889893 name some

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:46:09 2015 No.6889904 >>6889022 Nobody ITT is, people who make those charts are just trogoldytes inflating themselves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:46:55 2015 No.6889908 >>6889904 bet I'm more qualified than you

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:52:45 2015 No.6889928

>>6889899
There is no authority or explanation behind any choice whatsoever. There's no point why it should exist. There isn't even the glimmer of guiding someone who is interested in poetry as something like the /mu/ essentials chart does, or an attempt at categorization such as "here are good Renaissance poets, here are good Romantic poets." It's presenting poetry as a contest and a dick-waving competition over who is superior and better-read than you are. It's just a a vague collection of some anonymous 4chan user's opinions on the validity of reading poets, not their poetry. In other words, it's the worst of /lit/ distilled into a jpg concerning the topic least deserving of this shit.

Anything beyond that is just useless nitpicking. Like how all the black poets are in the lowest category.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:59:42 2015 No.6889947

>>6889928
>There is no authority or explanation behind any choice whatsoever.
There's no authority behind anything on this website. If you want authority why are you here?
>There's no point why it should exist.
Where's your authority for such a claim
>There isn't even the glimmer of guiding someone who is interested in poetry as something like the /mu/ essentials chart does,
"Here's some albums lol listen to em"?? Very helpful.
>or an attempt at categorization
They're categorized based on difficulty. You're a retard nonce who thought the chart was ranking poets based on quality when it wasn't.
You're a silly guy.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:12:40 2015 No.6890004

>>6889947
>There's no authority behind anything on this website. If you want authority why are you here?
Begging the question, good job.
>Where's your authority for such a claim
If it is to be an "introduction to verse" and introduce someone to verse, it should do that. introduce someone to verse. Does this chart do that? No. Where is my authority? You just said we're on 4chan so I am not beholden to such a question either.
>"Here's some albums lol listen to em"?? Very helpful.
That chart was made over months of collaborative effort and is sorted into different umbrella genres of music. And it is intended to introduce someone to music popular on /mu/. Can you honestly not see why it is a similar idea with superior results?
>They're categorized based on difficulty. You're a retard nonce who thought the chart was ranking poets based on quality when it wasn't.
Sorry, I thought someone new to poetry would want to read what was quality or what they were interested in based on some sort of description, not on what is most difficult and best shows how smart you are. Furthermore,
>They're categorized based on difficulty.
Assuming you aren't the creator of the chart, how did you know that? It says "introduction to verse" and lists a bunch of poets' faces in a vague hierarchy. Sounds like you're validating your own choices in poetry via their difficulty. And assuming that was the point of the chart, what is the point in doing such a thing?

ad hominem and so on and so on, fuck off flowerposter

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:17:18 2015 No.6890022

>>6890004
>nonsense
>nonsense
>That chart...results?
What does the method of composition have to do with anything? The end result is still "here's some albums lol take a listen"
>nonsense
>Assuming...
Because you could easily read the thread and find out but you're too excited to make a fool of yourself to do so. Back to your kpop board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:29:32 2015 No.6890089 >>6889740 True, but that's the statement of a misanthrope whose value was in the aesthetic and emotional aspects of his work, not in his thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:38:04 2015 No.6890595 >reading poetry in english

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:40:02 2015 No.6890605 Bishop in lowest tier, hilarious troll

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:46:54 2015 No.6890630 >>6888995 >whitman >whitman with hat

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:48:27 2015 No.6890632 >>6888930 putting Melville in entry level is a distillation of ignorance. Read Clarel then get back to me.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:00:43 2015 No.6890667

>>6889070
>>6889088
I agree that the chart is FUBAR, but I'm amused by your exchanges here on the top level.

Reading Spenser right now, bull-fucking-shit that a 13yo could read that and get anything out of it or that it is 'entry level'. Even an educated adult would frequently miss the allusions to Latin/ecclesiastic poetry and legends without footnotes (not to mention if they were unfamiliar with EME). For reference, opening to a random page:

>Ah gentle knight (said then Sir Satyrane)
>Thy labour all is lost, I greatly dread,
>That hast a thanklesse seruice on thee ta'ne,
>And offrest sacrifice vnto the dead:
>For dead, I surely doubt, thou maist aread
>Henceforth for euer Florimell to bee,
>That all the noble knights of Maydenhead,
>With her ador'd, may sore repent with mee,
>And all fair Ladies may for euer sory bee.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:05:16 2015 No.6890685 >>6889046 Melville has an epic longer than Homer and brutally hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:19:46 2015 No.6890733 >>6888930 >Dante this low :s

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:33:09 2015 No.6890782 No Pablo Neruda? You're missing out and you're dragging people down with you.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:28:49 2015 No.6890930
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I'm currently reading 'The Aeneid' and I can barely pay attention unless I carefully read each line out loud. I like it, but something about the way the verse sits on the page makes it impossible to concentrate on. Is there any hope for my future poetry appreciation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:37:50 2015 No.6890947 So is this like the Pritchard Scale from Dead Poets Society?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:42:30 2015 No.6890958

>>6890930
Assuming you're decently smart, just keep working at it and you'll eventually adjust. I remember first trying to read Paradise Lost when I was 13 and I didn't understand shit, but after rereading Book I maybe 5 times over the year, I finally got the feel for Milton's style and structure and breezed through it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:46:43 2015 No.6890976 >>6890930 Are you reading it in Latin, English, or both? I had to read part in Latin and part in English for AP Latin, and it was somewhat fulfilling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:55:43 2015 No.6890997 >>6890958 Did you keep reading poetry after you were 13, or were you done with all of it by your 14th birthday?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:55:41 2015 No.6891391 >>6888930 >Eliot in Leveled Up-tier I haven't laughed this hard in a while

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:19:59 2015 No.6892018 >>6888930 So anglocentric. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:21:59 2015 No.6892026 >>6892018 >Chart about english language writers >Anglosphere is where the most english speakers are found >Surprised when it's anglocentric Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:26:32 2015 No.6892044 >>6888930 >english poetry LOL

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:28:23 2015 No.6892051 >>6888930 move Shakespeare up you contrarian faggot I thought this meme was over

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:34:19 2015 No.6892085 >>6892051 Read the thread you retarded faggot, it's not ranking poets based on merit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:29:21 2015 No.6892335 >>6892085 yeah and if it by difficulty it is a fucking worthless chart

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:33:34 2015 No.6892348 >>6892335 thanks for your esteemed and authoritative opinion mister anonymous basement neet, it means a lot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:28:50 2015 No.6892849 >>6888930 a poetry tier chart is the last thing anybody needs seriously, you're still in high school tier if you think that shit's meaningful

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:30:30 2015 No.6892862 >>6890930 read it in the original Latin. nothing compares tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:31:35 2015 No.6892868 >>6889006 that's true of all poets, though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:33:07 2015 No.6892873 >>6888930 >all of the romantics in the same tier nevermind the fact that they were poets of differing tastes and capacities, they're all just "the romantics" right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:37:19 2015 No.6892885 >>6888930 I like your list op

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:40:19 2015 No.6892893 >>6892873 >keats, landor, clare, blake, burns, wordsworth, byron, shelley, coleridge >all in the same tier ur a retard

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:50:48 2015 No.6892936

>>6890976
>>6890958
Reading it in English, I understand it perfectly well but I keep zoning off and it all becomes a blur to me. I had a similar problem reading The Republic. I've read the full Leaves of Grass and loved it, so it's not like I have a problem with reading verse.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:01:21 2015 No.6892982

>>6891391
I love Eliot, but putting him above Dante, Milton, Shakespeare, Marlowe and Homer is a massive kek. I doubt Eliot himself would even do such a thing, considering in his speech 'What is a classic?' he identified the Aeneid as the quintessential Western classic, coming not too early and not too late.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:05:29 2015 No.6892993 >>6892982 >still thinking the chart is based on quality illiterate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:10:35 2015 No.6893016 >>6889865 Beckett Blake

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:56:19 2015 No.6893223 >>6888930 Older = Better What the fuck is wrong with Ginsberg?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:23:06 2015 No.6893340 >came in ready to shit on OP >the retarded redditors on this board are so embarrassingly simple minded that OP seems like a genius in comparison

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:30:08 2015 No.6893362 >>6888930 swap Poe with Hardy and you have yourself an almost perfect little chart there, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:36:49 2015 No.6893388 >>6888930 Pretension for days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:39:28 2015 No.6893401 How to get into poetry?I have no idea from where to start

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:44:17 2015 No.6893421 >>6893401 >>/lit/thread/S6758715#p6760618

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:54:45 2015 No.6893456 >>6893421 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:27:08 2015 No.6894189 >>6892993 1. the chart makes zero specification about how it is organized 2. Eliot is infinitely more accessible than everyone I listed. How many people can read Latin or Ancient Greek today?

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/lit/ - Literature