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Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:11:05 2015 No.6876465 [DELETED]

I have noticed that many in my generation (I'm 19) appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation of experience, rather than experience itself. An obvious example of this can be found on social media, like Facebook. People are essentially manufacturing experiences for the sole purpose of sharing them. The trend also manifests in Booktube, where it seems that the readers are more pleased by playing games with popular books than actually reading the books. Is social media the primary cause of this, or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C5FrfJShns

Video very much related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:12:26 2015 No.6876470 >>6876465 >I have noticed stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:13:31 2015 No.6876473 >>6876465 >I'm 19 stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:14:31 2015 No.6876478 >>6876465 >my generation stopped reading there

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:14:38 2015 No.6876480

Who gives a fuck buddy?

Why do you feel the need to share this? Why not keep it to yourself and let your own intuitions guide you instead of spreading word vomit all over a board that is supposed to discuss the intricacies of literature?

Stop being so immature, the world is not against you. It is indifferent to you and your observations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:15:02 2015 No.6876483 >>6876465 >social media, like Facebook stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:16:00 2015 No.6876487 >>6876465 seems like you are projecting tbh. you would never be able to accurately gauge the pleasure anyone derives from anything, but you're a salty cunt that sneers at people for not being as self conscious about sharing as you are

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:16:06 2015 No.6876488 File: 58 KB, 640x480, tip9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >im 19 and I type like a faggot, who else /angst/ here lmao im so much better than my troglodyte generation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:16:29 2015 No.6876489 ITT: OP gets BTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:17:59 2015 No.6876497 File: 1.04 MB, 184x141, 1437679493788.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6876480 >>>

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:23:40 2015 No.6876516 Didn't you read the Greeks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:26:23 2015 No.6876524 Yes, OP, you're smarter than everyone else in your generation. Now go write a book with your own shit, since you're the only one in the world who really experiences stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:28:41 2015 No.6876537 >a perfectly good thread was deleted to make room for this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:30:35 2015 No.6876544 >>6876465 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:31:23 2015 No.6876546 >>6876465 Your gen is shit, just like you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:34:45 2015 No.6876557 >>6876465 >>>/r9k/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:46:48 2015 No.6876597 >>6876480 >It is indifferent to you and your observations. well might as well kill myself then what does that say of philosophy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 03:55:21 2015 No.6876637 File: 45 KB, 528x278, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6876597 That's where we come in :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:05:44 2015 No.6876675 Let me guess, you have recently watched Fight club and it literally opened your eyes.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:09:43 2015 No.6876686

I noticed the contemporary conformist thread was popular; people are constantly trying to describe the state of things on this philosophy board

Most of you are fucking morons. It should go to stand that the consensus would be to talk shit to op

>>6876480
Why think openly when you can keep it to yourself right? People like Aristotle just needed to get a life lol

Where does op imply anyone is against him

>>6876487
He's speaking of girls that take a bubble bath with rose pedals and post it on instagram instead of just enjoying their bubble bath
The state of things in regards to this has become unreasonable. How obsessed people are with social media

I've been a known namefag and I've noticed myself slip into that mindset. It's why a lot of trips only trip up when they think they're making a smart post, trying to project an image
It cheapens things

>>6876524
I think the post slipped over your head

It honestly seems like this hostility is coming from some kind of jealousy

And no I'm not op

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:12:01 2015 No.6876695 >>6876686 He complained of people sharing stuff for attention, so he shared something for attention. You dense fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:14:43 2015 No.6876704 >>6876695 Him posting to share a thought and generate discussion doesn't constitute the kind of thing he's talking about

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:16:23 2015 No.6876711

>>6876465
to move the conversation in a different direction, I feel the connectivity of the modern world allows us to "share" as never before so it is another element in our experience that is somewhat a novelty so we in general will find it exciting/new etc. this is typical human behavior. imagine social media being a "new toy" of a child that is society

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:17:26 2015 No.6876716 >>6876704 Yes it is. Because he thinks his juvenile observations are worth discussing when in reality no one gives a fuck. Much like the people and stuff he criticises

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:18:30 2015 No.6876720 >>6876686 but its a mistake to assume this is from technology and not innately a human behavior that is only ALLOWED because of current technology. it wasn't "created" by the "monster" that is social media

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:19:37 2015 No.6876726 >>6876716 you don't give a fuck. the subject itself is neither interesting nor uninteresting, its simply an observation that OP has put up for discussion. nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:23:41 2015 No.6876742 >>6876726 Fuck off OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:24:01 2015 No.6876743 This has to be bait

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:24:14 2015 No.6876744
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I have noticed that many in my generation (I'm 19) appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation of experience, rather than experience itself. An obvious example of this can be found on balls, like those by Mme. Verdurin. People are essentially manufacturing experiences for the sole purpose of sharing them. The trend also manifests in some visitors of Guermantes' balls, where it seems that the readers are more pleased by having opinions on popular books than actually reading the books. Are balls the primary cause of this, or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:26:29 2015 No.6876754 >>6876744 this had better not become a meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:27:34 2015 No.6876761 >>6876597 >well might as well kill myself then How is that a logical conclusion?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:31:28 2015 No.6876775
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>>6876754
I have noticed that many in my generation (I'm 19) appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation of experience, rather than experience itself. An obvious example of this can be found on meetings around fire, like that Oog made last night. People are essentially manufacturing experiences for the sole purpose of sharing them. The trend also manifests when women process animal skins, where it seems that the women are more pleased by having opinions on popular beads than actually wearing the beads. Are social meetings the primary cause of this, or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:33:11 2015 No.6876784 >>6876744 >>6876775 I like this meme tbh

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:34:15 2015 No.6876789
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Do you dumb fucking people realize climbing the "social ladder" has literally been the essence of human society for almost all of fucking history? Social Media is a scorecard for that contest

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:35:14 2015 No.6876793 >>6876784 i refuse to believe the op was posted unironically it has to be bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:35:45 2015 No.6876794 >>6876789 nice watermark

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:39:56 2015 No.6876814 >>6876794 that is sun on his head you meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:40:44 2015 No.6876815 >>6876814 confirmed for b8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:44:58 2015 No.6876826 >>6876686 >the contemporary conformist thread was popula it was shit, and the article there connected was shit too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:50:43 2015 No.6876838 This is a weird thread, why is everyone so hostile to OP, did it hit to close to home or something? I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:51:25 2015 No.6876839 OP's not wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:52:35 2015 No.6876842 >>6876838 >>6876839 le contrarian face xd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:53:01 2015 No.6876844 >>6876838 >implying projection they're denying the b8 and memeing, is all

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 04:57:23 2015 No.6876850 >>6876465 We live in an experience economy and because of social media conspicuous consumption is at an all time high. If you really want to be mad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHDkIxyu2A

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:16:33 2015 No.6876888 >>6876850 Envious marxist pls go

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:22:37 2015 No.6876900
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I have noticed that many in my generation
appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation
of experience, rather than experience itself.
An obvious example of this can be found on social media,
like Facebook.
People are essentially manufacturing experiences
for the sole purpose of sharing them.
The trend also manifests in Booktube,
where it seems that the readers are more pleased
by playing games with popular books
than actually reading the books.
Is social media the primary cause of this,
or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:26:57 2015 No.6876909
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>>6876775
I have noticed that many in my generation (I'm 19) appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation of experience, rather than experience itself. An obvious example of this can be found in the drinking parties, like those by Agathon. People are essentially manufacturing experiences for the sole purpose of sharing them. The trend also manifests when men exercise at the gymnasiums, where it seems that they are more pleased by viewing another person or themselves exercising than actually exercising. Are gatherings of manliness the primary cause of this, or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:32:15 2015 No.6876917 >>6876850 everything about that video is so fabricated and pretentious; you're right i'm mad now.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:35:37 2015 No.6876928

>>6876850
Oh! I've seen that video before. I liked the music very much. I am a bit envious and displeased with those two models because it seems as if they are not using their youth for something productive. However, they can live their life the way they like.
...Just don't have more than three children

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:42:00 2015 No.6876938 >>6876900 hopsin a shit

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:48:06 2015 No.6876952
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>people think they are clever for understanding generations rather than understanding human nature
>people study generations rather humanity
>people study the Zeitgeist and not der ewige Geist before all time

whoah Hegel LMAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:49:06 2015 No.6876954 >>6876470 >>6876473 >>6876478 >>6876480 >>6876483 >>6876487 >>6876488 >>6876489 >>6876524 >>6876544 >>6876537 >>6876546 >>6876557 >>6876675 >>6876695 >>6876716 >>6876743 >>6876744 >>6876775 >>6876793 >>6876900 >>6876909 samefag

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:50:15 2015 No.6876956

>>6876954

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Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:53:43 2015 No.6876968
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>>6876956
>>6876954

mous 07/25/15(Sat)04:44:58 No.6876826▶

>>6876686
>the contemporary conformist thread was popula
it was shit, and the article there connected was shit too

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)04:50:43 No.6876838▶>>6876842 >>6876844

This is a weird thread, why is everyone so hostile to OP, did it hit to close to home or something? I don't get it.

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)04:51:25 No.6876839▶>>6876842

OP's not wrong

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)04:52:35 No.6876842▶

>>6876838
>>6876839
le contrarian face xd

>>
Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)04:53:01 No.6876844▶

>>6876838
>implying projection
they're denying the b8 and memeing, is all

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)04:57:23 No.6876850▶>>6876888 >>6876917 >>6876928

>>6876465 (OP)
We live in an experience economy and because of social media conspicuous consumption is at an all time high.

If you really want to be mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHDkIxyu2A [Embed]

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)05:16:33 No.6876888▶

>>6876850
Envious marxist pls go

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Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)05:22:37 No.6876900▶>>6876938 >>6876954
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I have noticed that many in my generation
appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation
of experience, rather than experience itself.
An obvious example of this can be found on social media,
like Facebook.
People are essentially manufacturing experiences
for the sole purpose of sharing them.
The trend also manifests in Booktube,
where it seems that the readers are more pleased
by playing games with popular books
than actually reading the books.
Is social media the primary cause of this,
or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?

>>
Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)05:26:57 No.6876909▶>>6876954
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>>6876775
I have noticed that many in my generation (I'm 19) appear to derive pleasure from external affirmation of experience, rather than experience itself. An obvious example of this can be found in the drinking parties, like those by Agathon. People are essentially manufacturing experiences for the sole purpose of sharing them. The trend also manifests when men exercise at the gymnasiums, where it seems that they are more pleased by viewing another person or themselves exercising than actually exercising. Are gatherings of manliness the primary cause of this, or has it simply brought it into a more apparent light?
>>6876850
Oh! I've seen that video before. I liked the music very much. I am a bit envious and displeased with those two models because it seems as if they are not using their youth for something productive. However, they can live their life the way they like.
...Just don't have more than three children

>>
Anonymous 07/25/15(Sat)05:42:00 No.6876938▶

>>6876900
hopsin a s time

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 05:54:45 2015 No.6876971

social networking was the cause . previously those people were part of sad book clubs and hid in the shadows but now they have spread their sickness . now people want you to read a book about some escapist bull shit fem fag nonsense . a girl saving the world lmao fiction is there anything you cant do

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:08:36 2015 No.6876992 >>6876954 >>6876956 >>6876968 all me btw

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:21:36 2015 No.6877037
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This thread (the responses) seems to be symptomatic for /lit/.
That's interesting, in a way, I'd like to know where it comes from.

I guess those replies
>>6876711
>>6876971
were the only ones directly addressing and adding to what's been said.
And I agree - I think people were always inclined to do this, and it's just that now, with the internet, they can. There is a "critical social mass" of a view hundred people for every niece to be found.
I think social media (facebook etc.) popularity in your generation is now also part of the sexual market value of people. Gotta do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:23:05 2015 No.6877040 File: 185 KB, 1600x900, Screenshot from 2015-07-25 06:22:56.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6876992 you were saying

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:27:00 2015 No.6877051 This thread had potential but was ruined by the one same guy shitposting all over it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:29:28 2015 No.6877056 >>6877051 platitudinous observations of le enlightened teen do not constitute for potential, kill yourself nigger faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 06:50:05 2015 No.6877103 >>6876716 Now THIS is projecting

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:03:34 2015 No.6877132

It's about asserting yourself onto the real world, drawing attention in order to strengthen your social status. Men do it to but to a much smaller degree, while in women looks almost like a biological need. It's one of the many social mechanisms, part of a bigger set that is competition; all of which I find pretty fascinating when thinking about it tbh
Social media just makes it that more obvious

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:15:09 2015 No.6877149 File: 285 KB, 760x756, relaxing_night.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6877132 It disproves the "men and the patriarchy objectify women" meme tbh http://imgur.com/r/ChangingRooms

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:18:00 2015 No.6877154

>>6876789
Yes, it's the big social game, but the playground is pretty vast and diverse, and the solutions often bizarre and contradictory: a 7/10 whore can have thousands of friends on facebook because of sexy photos, but she's far less valued than a reserved 8/10 girl with half of those friends
It's not only numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:56:04 2015 No.6877226 >>6876465 Are you sure you're not doing the same with this post?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 07:59:58 2015 No.6877230 >>6876465 but anon, writing a book is manufacturing an experience for the sole purpose of sharing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:03:31 2015 No.6877238 >>6877149 not entirely

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:06:12 2015 No.6877243

>>6877230
but there can be several motivations to share. Like maybe you want to bring about a political revolution, or make money, etc.

>>6877238
I actually know that it doesn't disprove that it comes from men. It rather suggest that it's pushed by women to a much larger extend than usually argued.
But of course the feminist side will always come with the "internalized misogyny" argument.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:15:10 2015 No.6877258

>>6877243
>bring about a political revolution, or make money, etc
And all boil down to the author wanting to be socially accepted in some way. To accept their ideals, or pay appreciate their work enough to pay for it, etc.

If you think about it, authors are the ultimate facebook attention whores, who wish to be accepted by the greatest number of people possible. They even have their faces in their books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:16:38 2015 No.6877262 >>6877258 I don't think "attention" was the end in itself for Lenin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:24:59 2015 No.6877281 >>6877262 >I don't think "attention" was the end in itself for Lenin. Did he not wish his political theory to be accepted by others? seriously, i don't know enough about him to make that call.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:25:07 2015 No.6877284 This board used to be good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 08:27:58 2015 No.6877291 >>6876850 DUDE SKY DIVING LMAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:01:27 2015 No.6877366 >>6877149 this comic would've been ten times funnier if she actually touched the wine

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 09:38:07 2015 No.6877430 >>6877284 those were the days

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:16:20 2015 No.6877539 >>6877366 I don't really agree, and I don't know why you say "wine"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:19:04 2015 No.6877546 >>6876928 The track is based on this classic: https://youtu.be/cqZc7ZQURMs Funnily, it's about adventure/travel/love

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:19:08 2015 No.6877547 If you enjoy doing something and enjoy sharing it with others then you get more pleasure than just doing the thing. You're just guessing their motives. It's natural to want to communicate with others. Grow up you bitter fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:21:46 2015 No.6877552 File: 119 KB, 400x400, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6876597 badazz

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:28:05 2015 No.6877562 >>6876480 best post I read all day.

The cats Sat Jul 25 10:28:46 2015 No.6877565

what the fuck is this thread. Yeah okay she's a pleb and a bit of an idiot. Why are you watching these videos. You're nineteen. You should be binge drinking and making friends or something. Why are you wasting your life actively seeking out this horse shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:33:33 2015 No.6877577 >>6876465 welcome to the society of the spectacle bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 10:38:51 2015 No.6877597 >>6877565 >You should be binge drinking and making friends or something. >should top spook m8

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