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Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:07:32 2015 No.6861912 [Reply] [Original]

Literary self-hate thread
what do you hate about your own work?

For me I cant stand how the word sand shows up everywhere in my work

and I also hate how my attempts at novels have no real plot. just characters kinda... doin' stuff, thing is, Im actively trying to make it follow a plot and it never does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:08:47 2015 No.6861915 >>6861912 I use too many allusions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:14:01 2015 No.6861924 >>6861912 I've only ever written a full page once. I hate everything about me.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:21:31 2015 No.6861935

I'm not really very creative. I can make an original story, but it's not like, a burst of inspiration other writers talk about. I have to keep thinking an idea over for days before I get it down, which means I write extremely slowly.

I guess I'm just being meticulous, and that isn't really a bad thing, but I'm an overall mediocore writer so that energy isn't going anywhere good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:22:58 2015 No.6861941 >>6861912 Everything I write is so goddamn choppy. It's a problem for everything I write whether that be an argumentative essay, short story, or poem. Every line/sentence sounds completely disjointed from the last.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:23:19 2015 No.6861943 I use really basic words like 'it' and 'the' A LOT. Specifically when I start sentences. I also don't know when to stop describing things and move onto other things. I really need to read a book about writing. Any good suggestions?

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:25:10 2015 No.6861947

>>6861912
I think it's absolutely clear that everything I write is just Tao Lin + [whatever author I've been reading at the time]

What's worse is I'm dickriding authors who are incredibly famous in literary circles (Borges, Kafka, Joyce, Pynchon) so I can't even pretend I'm being original by saying I've not heard of the authors my work seems to be ripping off.

Also sometimes I just start writing like I was born 150 years ago or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:27:07 2015 No.6861952 >>6861947 Dickriding Borges well will still make you great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:27:11 2015 No.6861953 Everyone who reads one of my short stories always comments that I have a fantastic sense of voice. If they read more than one of my pieces, they'd realize it's always the same voice. Always, without variation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:27:20 2015 No.6861954 File: 624 KB, 290x231, hmmyaokay.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6861947 >What's worse is I'm dickriding authors

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:29:30 2015 No.6861962 >>6861912 I keep writing stories about combative, feisty lesbians with bobcuts.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:30:11 2015 No.6861965

>>6861912
I hate how often I tell myself that I'm going to write something and then I don't.

Also, I hate how much trouble I have with grammatical shit. It should be simple, it really should, but it just doesn't click sometimes.

Also, my prose is flawed, but that's something I'm comfortable with as a novice. I understand that it's flawed, and I know the only real way that's going to get better is with time and critical reflection.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:31:04 2015 No.6861969 >>6861952 Possibly, but I still feel like a hack for having so little originality. For me it's just metaphysics + metafiction, and try not to mention labyrinths so as to make it less obvious >>6861954 I don't follow m8

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:34:07 2015 No.6861973

>>6861965
>I hate how often I tell myself that I'm going to write something and then I don't.
I have a little memo pad filled entirely with premises for novels and short stories, with the occasional sentence or paragraph just floating around somewhere.

I'm sure I could easily sit down and write any of these ideas into a full work, but it's just so much easier to daydream about my hypothetical future success, imagining interviews where I explain my works and themes and try to dodge questions from those youths who try to inject identity politics into everything

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:39:05 2015 No.6861984 >>6861973 This, hard. About everything you said.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:40:58 2015 No.6861989 >>6861962 I hate feisty women.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:45:42 2015 No.6861997 When I write more chapters I always feel that the old ones are pretty shit and they need to be rewritten I kind of feel like my villain is becoming more likable then my hero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:48:03 2015 No.6862006 File: 3 KB, 455x180, 1413609036023.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6861912 All my stories are the same story. The protagonist is just some asshole avatar of myself and I make the audience hate him just like I hate him.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:48:04 2015 No.6862007

>>6861997
>When I write more chapters I always feel that the old ones are pretty shit and they need to be rewritten
Just rewrite it when you're done. Editing is great.

>I kind of feel like my villain is becoming more likable then my hero.
That's not a bad thing, necessarily.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:54:40 2015 No.6862024 >>6861989 'Feisty' is the wrong word, now that I think about it. 'Savage' might be more appropriate. Anyway anon, you'll hate whatever I write which is okay because it's never being published.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:56:07 2015 No.6862027

I have a very limited vocabulary so I reuse a lot of the same words, especially if they're five dollar words.

I suspect my shit is disjointed in some ways, or at least will appear that way to the reader. Like perhaps it only makes sense in my own inner logic where I know absolutely everything regarding the story. I don't know.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:57:46 2015 No.6862030

Sometimes I have trouble identifying whether something is cliche or not. I mean sometimes its glaringly obvious, but other times I get self conscious and start questioning myself.
I mean they are inherently bad if you can use it to your advantage, build off of it, or parody or subvert it.

I also tend to subconsciously rip something off and not notice it until I show someone what I've written and feel like a hack but I've gotten a lot better. I normally just find my idea was already used, because its hard to be truly original.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:01:32 2015 No.6862038 I can't come up with something "original" for shit. The story I'm working on is literally ripping off 4 other stories and using them as a jumping off point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:04:39 2015 No.6862044 >>6862038 Use real life experiences. Not just first-hand, you can learn of other people's experiences.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:09:08 2015 No.6862059

>>6862044
Well perhaps I was being a bit cynical.
I am doing exactly what you said but the stuff I'm "ripping off" is turning out less and less like the original the more I develop them and in turn becoming more of a homage.
But still, it pains me inside knowing how it all started.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:21:14 2015 No.6862084 I value word economy above aesthetic impact, so my work often feels incomplete and flat.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:30:07 2015 No.6862103

the thing i hate about my writing style is that i'm always trying to pick fancy words and constuct phrases that sound somewhat catchy
it's like i have a subconsious fear of mundane words and collocations
and therefore my writings look tryhardish and strained

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:51:16 2015 No.6862165 >>6862103 >constuct phrases that sound somewhat catchy I'm obsessed with this. If my lines don't sound like they have some beautiful rhythm I scrap it

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:22:27 2015 No.6862229
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I'm always wondering if I can ever succeed at making a reader feel the overwhelming whatever it is that I am trying to make happen in the story. Not just plot or characters and clever little things. There is always an emotion that I am trying to make the story just have through every sentence.

Thinking about how to leave little details here or there and wondering if it is waay too trivial and cryptic or too in the face.

I have no grace.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:30:09 2015 No.6862249

>>6862229
>I'm always wondering if I can ever succeed at making a reader feel the overwhelming whatever it is that I am trying to make happen in the story.
Tolstoy said that it's practically impossible. In order to make your reader feel that overwhelming that reader must become the writer himself. And that is impossible. But there is nothing wrong with that, i think.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 04:52:05 2015 No.6862299

>>6862027
I know this feel. You cannot even read your own work as a stranger, so you're blind to the gaps others might see in the descriptions or gestures of characters, because they are too vague or don't mean anything without the context you have in your head.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:09:49 2015 No.6862344 >>6861912 >plotless actually not that bad in principle

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:21:51 2015 No.6862363 >>6861973 It won't feel any less tenuous once you start, either. But that's what makes it thrilling, win or lose you are taking yourself places. It's worth a try, man. Take it from a chronic depressive.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:47:14 2015 No.6862411

>>6861973
>tfw you used to think only you did this
>tfw because you thought only you thought that, it would somehow come true
>tfw even though I know many people think it now, I still think it will somehow come true
I'm either going to end up an arrogant success story, or a bitter mid-lifer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:53:53 2015 No.6862430 >>6861912 >For me I cant stand how the word sand shows up everywhere in my work Anakin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:06:18 2015 No.6862457 >>6861947 the best path for you would be to realize that tao lin is barely a mediocre writer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:10:39 2015 No.6862473 >>6862344 eg arguably, Adler, Anderson, Proust, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:26:41 2015 No.6862507 >>6861973 lol ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:32:20 2015 No.6862519 >>6861973 >>6861984 >>6862411 Self-discipline is the real rarity.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:43:47 2015 No.6862539

>>6861912
Same, there never really seems to be any major climax or conflict in my stuff. Like this one short story I started back in February and still haven't finished, it's basically just about a guy in a hyper-bureaucratic society who works in a dead end job doing nothing all day. He's forgotten basically everything about himself, and it's like every day he's a different and yet the same person. The conflict is that he somehow gets erased from 'the system' so he legally doesn't exist, which is illegal, so he tries to run away, as a way to take control and feel alive. Then when he's caught he has to basically recreate himself and remember his life which he secretly didn't want to confront. But it doesn't sound very climactic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:45:06 2015 No.6862547 >>6862519 Self-discpline really doesn't exist. People are just different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:21:16 2015 No.6862670 >>6862539 I like the sound of that, anon. It actually sounds good. Do write it, please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:39:19 2015 No.6862749 >>6861989 and that's why you're single

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 07:42:40 2015 No.6862761 >>6862547 Doesn't exist? So I can just do whatever? Said whatevers will have no impact on the feedback loops of my neurology? Ironic how nihilists act most out of emotion, lacking the self-awareness (sorry--this one exists as well) to see it as such.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:34:11 2015 No.6863977 File: 47 KB, 369x368, thanks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6862670 th-thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:39:46 2015 No.6863993 Be patient. There is no haste. No haste. Let life be and live.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:42:04 2015 No.6863999

>>6861912

I hate the fact that I inadvertantly vary the amount of description in my writing.

It's almost like I'm subconsciously thinking "oh shit, I haven't put much description in that last bit - better cram a shitload in here to balance it out!".

I have to go over my writing like 4 times to 'even out' the description.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:42:06 2015 No.6864000 File: 21 KB, 473x315, pepetime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6863993 >There is no haste. but life is so short

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:44:01 2015 No.6864009

I focus a lot on crafting engaging, descriptive prose, so I am constantly editing and rewriting passages. But once I've read a passage dozens of times (maybe even as many as 40+), I'm unable to tell whether it's good at a basic level. Like, I get really philosophical about it: "Wait, what is it that makes words pleasing? How can anything sound beautiful?" My best solution is to drop the work for a while and come back fresh, but at the same time I always feel guilty about not working on it for so long. My writing process becomes really inefficient if I stopped I would feel like such a piece of shit for wasting all my time and talents.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:50:24 2015 No.6864035 >>6861912 I just suck. Not even in an overly critical sense, I just can't write for shit. I practice daily, consulate read, have taken numerous workshops but in the end I feel like nothing I produce is good enough to be a tweet or Facebook status.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:00:21 2015 No.6864078 >>6864000 No it's not. Life is literally the longest thing you'll ever do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:01:37 2015 No.6864083 >>6864000 If you live your life by the idea that it is short, you will grow inpatient and hasty. Impatience and hastiness lead to failure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:04:00 2015 No.6864095 >>6864078 >>6864083 So is your solution to wait 20 years to do something, to waste away my life in a dead end job until I retire and then I'm too old and tired to do anything but reminisce on younger days and wonder what might have been?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:04:30 2015 No.6864096 >>6862229 >Oyasumi PunPun God, Inio Asano is a legitimately good writer and I need him to write an actual novel so I don't feel weird for recommending his work.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:07:34 2015 No.6864107

>>6864095
No one offered that up as a solution. But if in your mind it's either one of the other that's just your problem. Nothing is stopping you from working during the day and writing at night like most people used to do. If you're working a dead end job and not actively looking for a new one you have a serious issue. Learn to divide your time up and get some priorities.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:07:52 2015 No.6864109 >>6864095 This is your idea of patience, not mine. Tell me, do you work 14 hours a day? Fool.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 15:13:28 2015 No.6864133

>>6864095
Even if you quit your job tomorrow and spend 8 hours a day writing, you wouldn't produce anything of value for years. I'm assuming you're in your 20s like most people on this site--that's a terrible age for writing. Most authors don't publish anything good until they're 30 at least. No matter what you choose, it will be a brutal life.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 16:32:01 2015 No.6864409
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I don't write. I rarely read. It's something I tell myself I enjoy but I never get around to it and instead waste my life sitting in front of my computer refreshing webpages all day. When I do read, comprehending what I read is difficult. I often find myself rereading sentences again and again. Writing is terrible. I have nothing interesting to say and even if I did I couldn't put it into words well. I know all these things get better with practice but I just don't do it for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 16:40:31 2015 No.6864446 >>6861915 James Joyce plz go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 16:42:22 2015 No.6864460 >>6861947 >What's worse is I'm dickriding authors who are incredibly famous in literary circles This is me except with Beckett, Joyce, Gaddis, Barthelme

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:15:28 2015 No.6864600
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I dislike my written dialogue, since it either disrupts the flow and seems out of character, or it stagnates the story if there is too little wasting precious opportune moments of interaction between characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:17:47 2015 No.6864612 I like alliteration too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:21:02 2015 No.6864636 >>6864612 I sympathetically surmise with your struggle

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:23:34 2015 No.6864647

I can't write "normal" stuff happening, it's so boring that I can't stand it. I don't know how to change scenes, I have no voice, my characters have no voices, no personality, no details, awful sentence structure, everything sounds wrong, the music's never in it. I just never have enough. Every time I think it's enough, it's not even close. All my stories finish when they're about 40% done. I just get bored, and I don't have enough spirit (natural humours, life forces, libido, etc.) to get things done. That angst in itself adds to what I write, but after a while it's like getting blood from a stone.

my diction A++ tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:53:47 2015 No.6864793 >>6864009 This so much, eventually I overly analyse my work to the point I become completely detached from it, and am unable to correctly adjust it. I hate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 17:58:30 2015 No.6864816 My grammar is kinda poor I guess?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:06:09 2015 No.6864841 My weakness is fleshing out the plot. I can come up with a great concept, write better than average prose, and multiple people have told me I have a great ear for dialogue. But sometimes I suspect my writing doesn't have enough crisis or urgency.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:11:50 2015 No.6864860

I'm sick of this new generation of tumblr poets who think a diary entry with random line breaks counts as a poem but my poems are also written in free verse, exactly the same way. Why not use the word I want to use just because it doesn't rhyme or fit the meter? I have the sneaking suspicion that I write in free verse because it's less work and I'm lazy but on the other hand it just feels natural, forcing yourself to rhyme seems unnecessarily archaic and constricting. Should I just give up writing in verse all together, cut the bullshit line breaks and embrace that I'm a prose poet?

Also I try to be surrealistic and enigmatic but I'm pretty sure it just comes off as vague and nonsensical and therefore completely unengaging.

Also I have no range and my poems all have the same style and themes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:16:47 2015 No.6864879 >>6864860 If you're talented it won't be constricting at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:20:06 2015 No.6864891 >>6864879 of course, it's just that I get way more enjoyment out of writing in free verse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:21:17 2015 No.6864896 >>6861912 I write fan fiction for a dead fan base. I know no one will ever see these stories but I keep writing them. It's like an illness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:21:39 2015 No.6864901 I can only write about my fucking self, in the end

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:25:34 2015 No.6864920 >>6864901 It was glaringly sad to learn that my imagination is entirely dictated and hindered by a preoccupation with myself and my own circumstances.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:27:10 2015 No.6864935 >>6864896 come on bro, tell us what fanbase

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:28:40 2015 No.6864939 >>6864860 Free Verse is just an excuse to be lazy. Even if you don't like rhyme schemes at least try writing in a set meter. It'll sound a lot better if you do it right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:28:59 2015 No.6864942 All my characters are just people I know very slightly altered.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:29:10 2015 No.6864944
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>>6864860
>I have the sneaking suspicion that I write in free verse because it's less work and I'm lazy but on the other hand it just feels natural, forcing yourself to rhyme seems unnecessarily archaic and constricting. Should I just give up writing in verse all together, cut the bullshit line breaks and embrace that I'm a prose poet?

If you're good at prose, you're good. Once you start to doubt yourself you'll pick up some nice structure to mask the bad writing.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:31:34 2015 No.6864963

>>6864896
In the end your work will be read by the 'person in the armchair'.
You might never know them, or ever get to meet them, or ever get acknowledged by them, but you know they are out there.

Take solace that even if you get one person to read and enjoy your work, you accomplished your intention.

Keep them in mind, but never write to please them. Stay true to the way you smith your own words.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:31:54 2015 No.6864967 >>6864935 White Wolf Exalted ttrpg.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:41:53 2015 No.6865011 File: 588 KB, 494x603, 1418542569516.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6861912 i keep writing scenes and dialogues but get too lazy to work out the tedious tidbits that tie it all together

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 18:55:21 2015 No.6865039

I'm always afraid that my characters will come off as angsty and juvenile when I'm trying to convey how upset, angry, or sad they are.

I love Science Fiction, and I have a hard time writing regular fiction because of it. It bothers me that I consider myself a writer, but have such a hard time writing regular fiction. Sometimes I wonder if it's because science fiction is my escape from the mundane grind of life, but at the same time I feel that it should be in a skillset to write a regular fiction story/book.

I feel that my characters have no real personality in their dialogue. That it's all kind of bland.

It sucks because I tend to be on the cynical side, so even when people when what I have written and tell me that it's good and they enjoyed it, I worry that they say that because they know me, even though they explain that if it was some random book they'd still feel the same.

Fuck I hate being so insecure about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 19:38:06 2015 No.6865220 >>6862299 Totally. And then you don't want to give everything away to cover your ass, just incase. It's a huge fucking headache.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 19:40:26 2015 No.6865231 >>6865039 Take a long hard look at your own post. Write a story about the character that wrote this post.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 20:30:36 2015 No.6865401

>>6861912
I hate the fact that i think it's legitimately funny and almost perfect but there are people who don't find it funny at all. How am i supposed to construe this? How the fuck can you write comedy when there are people out there who don't like Seinfeld even? What do these people laugh of? Im starting to think that the humour "most people" find funny is this cute, harmless humour and not satire which i like. Maybe only certain people like satire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 20:33:57 2015 No.6865416 As a wannabe poet who was originally influenced by the likes of Bob Dylan, Townes Van Zandt, etc, I have immense trouble writing poems that specifically don't sound like songs.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 20:44:33 2015 No.6865446

I write like a little girl. Everything I write looks a bit like a journal entry, since I write tons of journal entries and relatively little else. I write in very plain terms, which can become boring quickly.
You can also tell from my writing that I don't read enough. It shows that I try too hard, my stories tend to be formulaic and I'm very obvious about what I'm trying to say, kind of as if I were explaining a joke, rather than telling it.
All my characters are young and naive, because I wouldn't know how to make them say something meaningful. I'm being ironic a lot of the time for the same reason.
I use a lot of filler words and I still have trouble knowing when to use a comma sometimes.
Oftentimes, I catch myself using the same words in order to start sentences.
Also, everything else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 21:26:47 2015 No.6865625 i have trouble creating plots, not just weird scenarios. i'm also transfixed on hallways, office buildings, and empty spaces. not sure why in a freudian context.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 21:28:18 2015 No.6865628 >>6861912 Pacing. Also, I can't decide how I want my narrator to be like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 21:39:23 2015 No.6865677 I just wrote two poems, both are poor imitations of my favorite poet. They sound incredible pretentious with forced rhymes.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 21:45:13 2015 No.6865707
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>>6865416
Recently when I write I cannot avoid thinking of the surreal whimsy and allusions of Dylan's Tombstone Blues, it's charming but hard to emulate

>mfw trying to learn how to play Columbine on my guitar

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:05:50 2015 No.6865766 Grammar. Does not matter how I study it, I always think that my sentences are grammatically wrong, which obligates me to check them instead of continue writing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:16:29 2015 No.6865807 >>6861912 Cheesy dialogue and stupid references. Villains too edgy. First grade philosophy deepness. Action sequences too long and detailed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:22:36 2015 No.6865822 >>6861912 I love SF/fantasy and I can't write it for shit. Neurotypicals living their normalfag lives I can do for some reason, which is terrible because I have zero interest in reading that shit. But it does sell. So go figure.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:23:46 2015 No.6865825

>>6865807
>first grade philosophy
You're not here to write a philosophy dissertation. Just write stuff that's relevant to your story and don't worry about it. People are going to label it as you did regardless of it's level, just so they can bitch, whine and come off as smarter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:25:39 2015 No.6865832 >>6865401 Most people really really don't get humour. Even stuff like seinfeld and the simpsons which were wildly popular most people don't actually get why are funny. Don't sweat what people think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 22:28:24 2015 No.6865846 >>6865401 A taste for satire has always been a mark of intelligence, so, well, you take it from there. Fart jokes represent sophisticated humor for Joe Six Pack.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 00:25:54 2015 No.6866153

>>6864460
I steal from Beckett a lot as well. And sometimes John Barth, who stole from Beckett and Borges. I imagine if I got 'round to reading Gaddis and Barthelme, they'd just be added into the cauldron that is my influence-pool. I just didn't feel like putting more than four authors in parenthesis. I dickride too many authors, actually. In fact, my work might function of a pastiche of all my influences, so large in number that it appears to just be a large, complex, unique style. Or so I hope.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 00:38:06 2015 No.6866186

>>6865401
>people out there who don't like Seinfeld even
kinda just spooked me, my man. I've been incorporating Seinfeld terms into some of my work as of late, with the hope that it would be appreciated. I'm not trying to be ironic or anything with my inclusion of such "sein language"; I just really really like Seinfeld and think it's a good idea to have non-literary influences for one's literary oeuvre

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 00:41:18 2015 No.6866193 >>6865625 >i'm also transfixed on hallways, office buildings, and empty spaces. not sure why in a freudian context. Vaginas, dude. Birth canals and shit. Just score some idiot-poon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 01:51:57 2015 No.6866403 My flow and structure are always the same, and it's not even subtle since it's kind of unconventional; you can easily spot it. It's of awful taste to do that but it's the kind of writing I enjoy most.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 01:58:58 2015 No.6866417

>>6861947
>sometimes I just start writing like I was born 150 years ago or something
I feel you, man
I do that a lot, probably because I don't speak english in everyday life and most of my contact with the language is books and /lit/. It's hard to feel how fucking pretentious, or rather antiquate I sound.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:07:21 2015 No.6866439 >>6862103 as long as you do so consistently and well it's fine. check out thomas mcguane

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:08:07 2015 No.6866441 >>6861989 i'm a sucker for femdom

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:09:23 2015 No.6866445 >>6862027 >shit vocabulary get a dictionary + anki or memrise that shit mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:09:40 2015 No.6866446 >>6862749 When feisty is used in reference to women it almost always means obnoxious, why would I. Want to deal with that. Besides what makes you think all or even most women are feisty in any sense of the word?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:10:24 2015 No.6866450 >>6862165 >If my lines don't sound like they have some beautiful rhythm I scrap it friggin humblebrags

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:13:05 2015 No.6866456 >>6864095 grow a pair, faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:15:13 2015 No.6866457 >>6864636 >>6864612 literally everywhere. I put a lot of words in a series w/ the same first letter, or I'll weird patterns with the first or last letters like in an alphabetic order (eg, a recent one was cdefg) or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:17:39 2015 No.6866468 Seinfeld himself has autism. I don't mean this as an insult I mean he's diagnosed. People don't like him because there's a fear of autism these days.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:25:16 2015 No.6866499

>>6865446
>Everything I write looks a bit like a journal entry, since I write tons of journal entries and relatively little else. I write in very plain terms, which can become boring quickly.
Funny, it was the complete opposite with me. I mean, not literally, but - I started with journal entries, and when I started feeling too scared someone would read them I turned journaling into writing exercise and started coding everything, symbolizing, creating narratives. It helped plenty, but now I can't properly write in my journal without being disgusted with myself

>see qt
>write about qt in journal
>start talking about the sun as analogy to qt
>SUDDENLY ICARUS
>OH NO MY WINGS ARE MELTING
>smartass conclusion
>even went all the way to Joyce and included allusions to Stephen Dedalus
>you can only tell I'm talking about qt if you read close enough

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:28:11 2015 No.6866504 >>6866499 That's pretty gross actually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:29:13 2015 No.6866508 >>6865446 >if I were explaining a joke, rather than telling it. give a hard think about the structure of the stories

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:31:03 2015 No.6866517 >>6866504 >>6866499 is it? it's kinda clever

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:46:36 2015 No.6866567 >>6866499 Why? I get annoyed at it because it but that's because it always sounds pretentious as fuck and I feel like punching myself in the face for not being able to openly talk about things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:47:50 2015 No.6866572 >>6866567 Jesus fuck what a mess of a post, edited mid-sentence and didn't properly fix >I get annoyed, but that's because...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:58:14 2015 No.6866592 >>6861912 I hate that every word I've written I was always meant to write.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 04:25:48 2015 No.6866820 >>6866153 That usually is how a style is made. And then you'll find your very own obsessions in terms of themes and tone, and you'll truly have something of your own. Good luck, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 06:08:53 2015 No.6867029 >>6866468 nice meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 12:13:25 2015 No.6868021 >>6865625 same, same

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 12:17:55 2015 No.6868032 >>6866517 he's using gross in its 4th wave feminist definition

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 19:17:36 2015 No.6869747 How fantastic and insightful it is

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 19:18:58 2015 No.6869753 >>6865625 >i'm also transfixed on hallways, office buildings, and empty spaces Holy shit this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 19:31:07 2015 No.6869810 >>6861912 That there isn't any

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