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What kind of books do fascists read?

>> No.6829188

It depends.

Contraty to popular opinion, a fascist can be intellectually developed and quite intelligent.

If you are asking for fascist books , or books that fascists base their ideology upon, you can look at Plato, Hegel, etc...

It is also wrong to think that a fascist inherently has a different library than everyone else. I guess like any ideology or religion, it depends on your own views of reality, not entirely in something external.

Of course an educated fascist should have read all Marx and other lefist stuff.

>> No.6829190

>>6829154
i'm a fascist and i read poetry. i mostly just dig the aesthetics, i don't care much for fascist ideology. tbh i'm more of an oligarchist

>> No.6829196

>>6829190

What is oligarchist?

A new word for jew?

>> No.6829197

>>6829154
>these people genuinely believe they're the master race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebb0F6CEb4k

>> No.6829206

>>6829197

That never changes, and I dont really mind.

Even amazonian tribes think they are masterrace. It happens in Africa too. If anything, I think racist people should be normalized a bit more, because we (as a society, as a whole) never really ceased to be in the first place.

>> No.6829209

>>6829196
oligarchy is what the spartans had

>> No.6829212

inb4 ΟΥΤΙΣ

>> No.6829215

>>6829188
>Of course an educated fascist should have read all Marx and other lefist stuff
So an educated leftist should read Mein Kampf?

>> No.6829216

>fascists
>reading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

>> No.6829219

>>6829215
Why not?

>> No.6829220

>>6829215
...yes?

>> No.6829224

>>6829154

none

>>6829196

oligarchy is what america curently has

>> No.6829228

>>6829215

Sure, but perhaps more truly fascist books also.

I mean, it makes sense, right?

>> No.6829240

>>6829215
I hope you're not trying to prove anything by stating something that obvious

>> No.6829242

Giovanni Gentile
Plato
Hegel

T. Karl Popper

>> No.6829246

I'm a fascist and I like Jünger, along with classic North European works like the Eddas and Beowulf

>> No.6829248

>>6829224
>oligarchy is what america curently has

America is a Federal presidential constitutional republic

>> No.6829253

>>6829248
And China is a People's Republic

>> No.6829259

>>6829212
>implying ΟΥΤΙΣ isn't the best tripfag
>inb4 butterfly tripfag is a real memer

>>6829154
Marx
Machiavelli
Hegel
Mein Kampf
A modern fascist would also be familiar with the though of Michel Aflaq

>> No.6829264

>>6829215
And here we see the leftist squirming as he is forced to acknowledge his own intellectual bigotry

>> No.6829268

>>6829253
What small group of people controls America?

>> No.6829274

>>6829264

I agree.

I dont want to derail this thread but I think heavy ideological people refuse to approach the other side precisely because they are so gullible they are afraid they could change sides.

>> No.6829292

>>6829215
Everyone interested in politics, regardless of what ideology he belongs to, should read stuff like Mein Kampf, Communist Manifesto, Wealth of Nations, etc. It's a matter of basic literacy.

>> No.6829304

>>6829268
Congress

>> No.6829340

>>6829154
Well personally I'm going through the trial right now as I try to go through some more of the classics.

>> No.6829344
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The Bible

>> No.6829365

>>6829248

wrong.

http://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy

>>6829259

>Mein Kampf

as a German I fucking cringe every single time

>> No.6829389

>>6829292
Mein Kampf is white supremacist drivel with no literary value, no one is any less "literate" for not reading it.

>> No.6829393

>>6829154

none

>> No.6829400

Pretty much everything everyone else does

I'm reading Don Quixote right now and it's fucking amazing how much Don Quixote/Sancho parallel male feminists and white knights

"I read a bunch of fiction books and now I'm going to interpret everything as a construct from one of these books and conquer the devil patriarchy"

Literally anti-Patriarchy is chivalry 2.0

But that's just me idk

>> No.6829401

>>6829215
Yes, absolutely.

>> No.6829407

>>6829389
If you're interested in politics and history, you should.

You'd have to read it to know how Hitler tried to shape Germany in light of the first reich and so on

>> No.6829413

Evola, I guess? Probably Nietzsche and Stirner, too.

>> No.6829414

>>6829407

>You'd have to read it to know how Hitler tried to shape Germany in light of the first reich and so on

i'm German and no, just no. read a historian.

>> No.6829417

>>6829414
>i'm German
Oh, that explains it.

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>>6829154
Probably pic related

>> No.6829420

>>6829154
>RES
>ORE

>RES ORE
>CAPITAL
>PUNISHMENT

>RESPORE
>CAPITAL
>PUNISHMENT

>> No.6829449

>>6829413
>Stirner
>facist
Alright whatever you say man

>> No.6829452

>>6829417

I actually read a good chunk of the original in the language of the author, what the fuck is your point?

>> No.6829458

>>6829449

he never said they were, jsut that fascists read them

which is also bullshit, no one reads stirner. hes virtually unknown.

>> No.6829460

>>6829452
Well, for one the author is literally Hitler

>> No.6829465

>>6829154
Futuristic poetry?
Classical literature? Horatius? Julius Caesar?

>> No.6829499

>>6829460

what the fuck are you trying to say? can you stop with the fucking memes and just type? jesus christ the autism

>> No.6829510

>>6829188
Why would I read Marx? I don't give a FUCK about otherkins and all that crazy shit leftists talk about.

>> No.6829527

>>6829452
Usually people don't recommend secondary sources over the primary ones unless they're incredibly butthurt over the primary ones.

>> No.6829533

>>6829414
>2015
>living in a censorship stat ran by a woman
>being cucked by rampaging barbarian Turks

Germancuck pls go

>> No.6829540

>>6829449
>le anti-gubment spook

Symbolic "le fuck you dad" anti-government anarchism is just as spooky as "muh nationalism".

That's why stirner is great, and what nobody gets about him.

>> No.6829546

>>6829510
Thats true. You shouldn't read them, they'd just confuse you

>> No.6829550

>>6829215
>>6829219
>>6829220
>>6829228
>>6829240
>>6829264
>>6829292
>>6829401
>These people think Mein Kampf has any merits, they probably still believe it's Hitler's own words, not edited 10 times by different people because the original was incoherent bollocks, denounced by Hitler himself as ''nothing more than a few articles for the Völkischer Beobachter''
The only thing you might gain from reading it is to find out what some German people read, for this reason you should all go read John Green and R.R. Martin as well.

>> No.6829557

Gandhi's journals

>> No.6829559

>>6829550
Calm down, Hans.

>> No.6829571

>>6829527

"butthurt over a source" never heard anyone use that before, neat. maybe the reason is that Mein Kampf is extremely nonsaying and everyone invested in WW2, The Third Reich and Fascism in general will already know everything explained in the book? (Hitlers Ideology, his Bio, Lebensraum im Osten, his plans for the world after the war is won). But I guess education in other countries isn't as good as ours.

The biggest reason not to read Mein Kampf is that it's written like fucking shit. It repeats itself unbelievably often, Hitler often struggles with putting together coherent sentences and instead of talking about the matter at hand he just tries to infuse his ideology into the listener. This was of course the primary purpose of the book, seeing as it was given to every single household in Germany.

>>6829533

>women are bad
>cuckold meme

I love those memes! Give me more memes! Memeing is so funny! Let's all meme together! You like watching your wife getting fucked by dindu xD
Louis CK anyone? JUST...

>> No.6829577

>>6829571
Calm down, Hans.

>> No.6829585

>>6829577

you can't just call me what you called the other guy, atleast come up with something original

>> No.6829603

>>6829510
hint: not every marxist is a tumblrfag

>> No.6829608

German Romanticism and the philosophy that goes with it. Blake and the anglo crew should be avoided though.

>> No.6829616

>>6829510
>implying you aren't a marxist making fascists look bad

>> No.6829617

>>6829571
Le Deutschcuck
Enjoy being cucked by Merkel and Tsipras

>> No.6829622

>>6829616
>implying /pol/ isn't just retarded

>> No.6829626

>>6829617

cuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuck(i'll get banned for this)cuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuck

there you have it folks. /pol/ in a nutshell

>> No.6829629

>>6829626
Cuck

>> No.6829635

>>6829215
No but they should read the Concept of the Political

>> No.6829658

>>6829259
>Machiavelli
>Marx

wow what a shitty list.

I'm not even a fascist but a fascist lit would go like this

>Giovanni Gentile
>Alfredo Rocco
>Plato
>Yukio Mishima
>Julius Evola
>Nietzsche
>Alexandr Dugin
>Alain de Benoist
>Carl Schmitt

specific writings
>Mein Kampf
>Storm of Steel
>The Turner Diaries
>Protocols of Elder Zion

ΟΥΤΙΣ should really get this shit down. He'd probably froth at the mouth with all the nazi stuff

>> No.6829685

>>6829571
Ive heard you got buttfucked in school Hans. Could it be that the german population is just as indoctrinated now as in the past when Hitler ruled, only that now you are indoctrinated into political correctness?

Ive read Mein Kamp. I found it very interesting but its true the translation isnt the best.

>> No.6829692

>>6829658
Your list is even shittier.

>> No.6829697

>>6829616
>implying facists need any help in looking bad

>> No.6829704

>>6829692
What's wrong with it?

I'm not a fascist, mind you.

I wish ΟΥΤΙΣ were here.

>> No.6829719

>>6829704
>I
Stop spoiling trivialities, you faggot

>> No.6829722

>>6829685
Germans have always been off their rocker. They're extreme in their views no matter what; first they had Hitler and then they turned around and embraced their multicultural utopia along with white guilt. Why can't they be normal for once? The sad thing about it is that I'm Czech, which means their actions are likely going to screw me one way or another due to their geographical location. Worst neighbors ever, 0/10.

Also, I have read Mein Kampf, too, and found it tremendously boring. Hitler sounded like a faggot with his choice of words.

>> No.6829727

>>6829719
why

>> No.6829732

>>6829727
>why
It's against the rules to do it the way you're doing it.

>> No.6829741

>>6829704
Literally listed some of the worst "fascist" books out there.

Fascism is predicated on the need for strong central leadership and cults of personality

Try Hobbes and Hegel, try reviewing human nature theory

>> No.6829754

>>6829741
So dumb

Fascism is predicated on the idea of there being a superior "class" of person to lead and a strong emphasis on intuition over reason. Listing Hobbes is laughable....

In that respect:
Rousseau
Fichte
Hegel
Nietzsche
Carlyle
Mussolini
Evola

Is what I would call the "essential fascist"

>> No.6829755

Hey guys, it's me, ΟΥΤΙΣ. Seriously, I'm not sure why you're asking me for fascist recommendations. That was a phase I went through a while back and I'm not proud of it. Come on guys, remember the Holocaust? Mussolini? Stalin? Fascism hasn't done anything good for humanity. I'd recommend you all try reading texts about the bad sides of fascism however, really opened my eyes.

>> No.6829763

>>6829754
>Rousseau

The fuck?

>> No.6829768

>>6829763
Rousseau is essential for fascism

If you don't see how romantic thought gave rise to fascism you should probably leave the thread tbh

>> No.6829769

>>6829754
that's an oligarchy you dip

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>>6829754
>Nietzsche

Confirmed for having never read Nietzsche

>> No.6829779

>>6829769
"Oh my god I'm retarded and don't even understand basic political thought please fuck my face"

Yes, hitlers speeches were filled with him talking about how HE alone should wield power and that the movement wasn't about preserving the world for the elite and unique German race

>> No.6829787

>>6829772
Reading fascism in Nietzsche isn't even a misreading..... Reading nationalism is

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>>6829755

You didn't know about that stuff before you became a fascist?

>> No.6829793

>>6829779
lmao who ya quoting ya dip, I didn't even mention hitler nor say that facism was a non-constitutional monarchy, i'm lmaoing at your life

>> No.6829804

>>6829787

Oh yes, when I think of an individualist who broke off his relationship with Wagner because of his antisemitism, I definitely think of a fascist.

Just admit you're a dumb /pol/ack and have actually never read anything by him

>> No.6829805

>>6829793
Ok sick

I don't know why you're posting

>> No.6829807

>>6829804
>reading nationalism is
Stop reading Wikipedia instead of lit

Fascism preaches there being two class of humans, those who have value (the we) and those who don't (the other)

This is found in Nietzsche in spades

I'm not calling Nietzsche a nazi you illiterate child

>> No.6829811

>>6829805
>"oh my god i'm retarded and don't even understand basic arguments please JUST cuck my /pol/ ass"

>> No.6829819

>>6829754
Fascism can be summed up by the Mussolini quote about all things being of the state

Basically closer to imperial Rome than to many others

>>6829772
Nietzsche actually paves the way for atheistic right wing movements. His anti-nationalistic rhetoric is badly misunderstood, and he wasn't some egalitarian faggot about race.

Nationalism as Nietzsche saw it was NOT nationalism as you or I see it

>> No.6829820

>>6829811
I'm not from pol nor am I fascist

Someone asked for writers essential for fascism and I provided them

You said something dumb about oligarchies and haven't written anything since

Neat

>> No.6829823

>>6829807
The real problem with the labelling of Nietzsche as a Fascist, or worse, a Nazi, is that it ignores the fact that Nietzsche's aristocratism seeks to revive an older conception of politics, one which he locates in Greek agon which has striking affinities with the philosophy of action expounded by Hannah Arendt. Once an affinity like this is appreciated, the absurdity of describing Nietzsche's political thought as 'Fascist', or Nazi, becomes readily apparent you dip

>> No.6829825

>>6829154
Just class cuck my shit up

>> No.6829827

>>6829804
Nietzsche is not an individualist

Antisemitism has nothing to do with fascism

Literally Nietzsche also said "a new reich would need an enemy to set itself against" so make of that what you will.

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>not wanting a nouvelle féodalité

I sincerely hope the next cultural revolution will be inspired by the Medieval ages.
After all, the Renaissance took Antiquity for its roots, why wouldn't we take Middle-Ages ?

>> No.6829834

>>6829823
>he's not a fascist because he's reacting to the present with a call to return to a purer past
L
O
L

>> No.6829837

>>6829827
>Antisemitism has nothing to do with fascism
this.
Mussolini had a Jewish mistress and many Jewish counselors before he sided with Hitler.

>> No.6829842

>>6829763
>>6829768

Rousseau's concept of the general will can certainly be interpreted in a fascist direction. You see, the general will is something entirely distinct from what people want or vote for; even if everybody agreed on some particular law, it is not inconceivable for Rousseau that the general will should be dictate an alternative. Hence, the dictator, within Rousseau's system, can present himself as the one person capable of divining the general will, more than the populace is (see here the idea of a Fuhrerprinzip). It may be argued that the dictator is smarter, or the the populace has been deceived or is simply incapable of governing itself.

Whilst none of this is spelt out within the text of the Social Contract, it has an unfortunate precursor in the figure of the 'Legislator', the individual tasked with drawing the constitution. The Legislator is a figure blessed with an acute knowledge of his people and their nature, and therefore, capable of creating the first laws and institutions in such a way as that they will be able to continue governing freely in his absence. So, the people are already incapable of drawing a constitution for themselves, at least, and require the guidance of some exceptional individual.

Of course, Rousseau was inspired here by the legendary legislators of Greece (Solon, Lycurgus etc.), and I have no doubt his commitment to democracy was genuine, but the influence his ideas had, particularly on the development of nationalism, unfortunately did partially contribute to the development of fascism.

>> No.6829843

>>6829834
Nietzsche's not a reactionary, and everyone who claims he's looking for a return to the Greeks are just stuffy academics who read his texts selectively. He laughs at reactionaries and historians for living in the past. He's explicitly a futurist.

Read Twilight of the Idols, aka How One Philosophizes With a Hammer, meaning basically how one strikes a gong (sic: stone statues) that awakens the new age

>> No.6829853

>>6829510
FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG THIS IS A FALSE FLAG!

>> No.6829860

>>6829853
Are there any books on this sort of conspiratorial mindset that permeates so much of the modern far right?

>> No.6829861

>>6829827
>Nietzsche is not an individualist

He called common people the rabble and the herd, and was against the herd mentality

>Literally Nietzsche also said "a new reich would need an enemy to set itself against" so make of that what you will.

Where?

>> No.6829866

>>6829215
Mein Kampf isn't the equivalent to Marx...

>> No.6829867

>>6829860
Are there any books on this sort of cuck mindset that permeates so much of the modern left?

>> No.6829868

>>6829866
You're right, My Little Pony is the equivalent of Marx.

>> No.6829876

>>6829861
>He called common people the rabble and the herd, and was against the herd mentality

Yes. How does this make him an individual?

To be great, you must reject the herd morality and be rejected by society. But he isn't advocating the dissolution of the herd. His philosophy is explicitly meant for a noble class, not the plebeian classes.

>Where?

In Twilight of the Idols. Read it, it's one of his more bonkers-sounding works, and is harder than some others. but it's the one that shows his right-wing affinity most prominently. It's also the work where he basically says we only see the side of Greece that is disgusting and we need to stop worshipping them.

He also commends the sophists, making me believe again that Nietzsche knew Stirner's works.

>> No.6829877

>>6829867
Are there any books on this idea of male emasculation which seems to be of much concern for the modern far right?

>> No.6829882

>>6829868
Was this supposed to be funny?

>> No.6829896

>>6829877
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

>> No.6829898

>>6829876
>but it's the one that shows his right-wing affinity most prominently.
>a book that outright declares morality to be against nature and that calls Christianity decadent and weak, and characterizes it as the hatred of life

Just admit you got all your info on Nietzsche through faggy nazi sites

>> No.6829923

>>6829242

why Popper?

>> No.6829924

>>6829898
Lol no. Nietzsche says morality and religion are just tools of control. Perfect to use on the herd for fascism/nazism.

You seem again to believe that Nietzsche is pulling a Kant and trying to write universal ethics. He's not doing that and says explicitly one cannot do that.

But since I've read more of Nietzsche's actual writings than you, I have better insight into what he means besides literally-meme-tier catchphrases like "he hated Antisemitism and nationalism lololol" as if anything Nietzsche ever said can be accurately expressed as one-liners

>> No.6829932

>>6829924
>But since I've read more of Nietzsche's actual writings than you

Bullshit like this

>Nietzsche says morality and religion are just tools of control. Perfect to use on the herd for fascism/nazism.

tells me you've never read anything by him and got all your info from either Wikipedia, Stormfront or /pol/

>> No.6829934

>>6829924
You haven't read Nietzsche nor Kant.

>> No.6829949

>>6829932
Lol again, try reading Twilight of the Idols.

>>6829934
Don't input, you're wasting everybody's time

>> No.6829951

Neitzche literally said he would have every semite shot

>> No.6829953

>>6829949
worthless rhetoric
you should definitely invest your time better by reading the authors you meme about, ape.

>> No.6829956

>>6829949

I think I should be the one saying that to you, because you've shown what has got to be the single most ass backward interpretation of Nietzsche I've ever read

>> No.6829971

>>6829953
You gonna ever reference Nietzsche's works or are you just gonna prop up your egotistical perspectives about the world that assuage your crispy ass?

You can accuse me of literally anything, libelous people have always existed, but it's painfully obvious now you're trying to subvert the conduct of our conversation because you haven't read enough to make an educated response. And the throw in your ">le meme"ing

You must be this tall to ride the roller coaster

>>6829951
Yes, he still liked authoritarian world powers.

>> No.6829977

>>6829956
Oh really? Use his texts and suggest I'm wrong, instead of posturing with weightless comments like these.

>> No.6829978

>>6829971
>more ad hominem
go read instead of flooding your own board, moron.

I didn't even read your post

>> No.6829991

>>6829978
Well, emperor, what do you think, should I spare this man or should I slay him?

>> No.6829993

>>6829977

>“A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."

>It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life.

>Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them.

>Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.”

Boy, what an outright nazi.

>> No.6830006

Since there are no fascist authors worth reading, they have to appropriate non-fascist, conservative writers such as Jünger.

>> No.6830018

>>6829932
Nietzsche does say that, morality was created by the weak to subjugate the strong

>>6829993
Again, he's referring to the states of his time which were descendants of a flawed Christian morality

Most of those very comments are reiterated by fascists to express the ineptitude of the current state and is exactly what fascism is a reaction to

>> No.6830028

>>6830018
>Most of those very comments are reiterated by fascists to express the ineptitude of the current state and is exactly what fascism is a reaction to

I honestly don't know how you can possess so much cognitive dissonance without your brain exploding.

Are all fascists as retarded as you?

>> No.6830036

>>6830028
I'm not a fascist

Holy shit, there are so many people calling others stormfags and nazis who are arguing AGAINST fascism

>all reactionaries must be anarchists because they argue against the state!

>> No.6830042

>>6830028
That wasn't even the original person you were relying to, that was me.

You have absolutely no idea what Hitler's goal was, or what fascism or Nazism were about. You take Nietzsche's always-contextual sayings as his universal maxims.

There is one mistake I see you make, that many beginners make, about Nietzsche. They treat Nietzsche's philosophy as though it's a categorical imperative for all humans to be overmen.

He is explicitly against codes for all people.

The other poster is right. When Nietzsche uses words like "state", "nationalism", etcetera, you view them in the way we do today, with our perceptions, interpretations and biases. You have to view them as he did, and in the context of fascism and nazism having never happened. If Nietzsche had seen what nazism and fascism played out, he might have said other things

I know you're blubbering mad right now-try not to be.

>> No.6830044

>>6830018
>Nietzsche does say that, morality was created by the weak to subjugate the strong
Immoral strongmen often end up with their neck in a guillotine or noose.

>He discourages liberality and favors deceit to guarantee support from the people. Yet Machiavelli is keenly aware of the fact that an earlier pro-republican coup had been thwarted by the people's inaction that itself stemmed from the prince's liberality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince#Interpretation_of_The_Prince_as_political_satire_or_as_deceit

>> No.6830046

>>6830036

Who cares what kind of special snowflake label you've put on yourself. The point is that you people are fucking morons and are the very people Nietzsche railed against. If you don't think he did, you should get off of your ass, out of your mom's basement and go to a bookstore

>> No.6830061

>>6830046
You're so blind that you have literally NEVER presented an argument based on text or ideas instead yelling about other people misreading.

Nietzsche railed against those creators of a state who FALSELY claim they are the people, not any state.

Yes, I'm sure Nietzsche was a fan of anarchism even though he was a fan of the Indian caste system

>> No.6830071

>>6830044
Haha "machiavelli was satire" - double whammy against your ability to understand anything that isn't contemporary academia

BTW, Nietzsche encourages you not to accept academic views on things.

>>6830046
No, you're that moron. I'm not even a fascist, lol, I'm letting you assume I am though because it's funny imagining you in your dirty undies, face smeared with food, mind ablaze imagining me in all sorts of various propagandistic concepts, and how inert it all is.

>> No.6830075

ITT: people with such a strong bias for a certain thinker they would probably argue that Marx wasn't a communist because he didn't support gulags in the ussr

>> No.6830081

>>6829951
Citation needed.

>> No.6830082

>>6830061
He's basically just a Nietzschean last man liberal (probably university student) idiot who has jumped on the bandwagon of claiming Nietzsche as a liberal so one can avoid the process of actually developing through him

>> No.6830085

>>6830042
>You have absolutely no idea what Hitler's goal was

His invasive Gestapo tells me he didn't really agree with anything Nietzcshe ever wrote. Remember, this might be amazing to all you basement nazis, but actions actually do speak louder than words

>I know you're blubbering mad right now-try not to be.

Nice projection, but Doritos fascists like you aren't really a source of anger, you're more a source of pity to me.

Oh well, come back when you've moved out of your mom's basement and figured out that DER FLUT isn't really komming and that in the real world, people mostly laugh at keyboard führers like you

>> No.6830091

>>6830075
>they would probably argue that Marx wasn't a communist because he didn't support gulags in the ussr

Marx wasn't a communist, he was a Marxist. Yes, he wrote the Communist manifesto, but didn't actively embrace it; he always traveled first class and didn't support gulags in the USSR.

>> No.6830093

>>6830085
Hitler=fascism

Ok, glad we could clear that up, you're not wrong; just an idiot with the language of a 12 year old

Wittgenstein was right

>> No.6830099

>>6830044
Oh, and for the record, literally zero respected machiavelli scholars today accept the satire interpretation. So you've set a razor agains yourself: align yourself with the liberal, selective readers of Kaufmann's campaign academics on Nietzsche, or against them on Machiavelli?

Pointing out Machiavelli contradicts himself will fail you too, because so does Nietzsche.

>> No.6830101

>>6830091
"All I know is that I am not a Marxist."
- Karl Marx

>> No.6830105

>>6830085
Where does Nietzsche talk about the proles deserving privacy?

>> No.6830106

>>6830093

Again, only basement führers like you care. In the real world, people have jobs, houses and girlfriends to care about. Luckily, you never will, so you'll have plenty of time to fantasize about the Glorious White Nice Guy Like Me Revolution that will never happen

>> No.6830108

>>6830081
He did. It's in one of the last letters he wrote after his horse embrace to insanity.

Literally the same days as when he signed letters as "Dionysus" and apologized for having to be God.

He genuinely didn't like antisemites, but that specific quote should scant be used to describe his entire view, and it's important to view why he hated antisemites (protip: it's because they're full of resentment and don't learn from the Jews' superior traits)

>> No.6830112

>>6830091
>Marx wasn't a communist
of course he was a communist, why would you think otherwise

>> No.6830115

>>6830085
Lmao

>> No.6830119

>>6830105

I don't know, where does Hitler talk about the fact that he isn't a secret Jew and that his entire mission is to turn Jews into the ultimate victims?

DUN DUN DUN

ITS LE HAPPENING

OH MY GOD THE DORITOS FLUT OF NICE GUYS KOMMT

>> No.6830121

>>6830106
Hahahahaha imagining you make up these images is fucking hilarious

>> No.6830129

>>6830119
>if I call them neckbeards I'm right

>> No.6830130

>>6830119
Ok

Put another way:
How does the gestapo prove hurler wasn't in line with Nietzsche

What in Nietzsche makes him incompatible with the gestapo

>> No.6830133

>>6830130
The other poster's psychological need to not face the tension between his liberalism and his ego. That's where the gap lies.

>> No.6830154

>>6829268
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019

>> No.6830233

>>6829755
Hello there false ΟΥΤΙΣ

>> No.6830285

Ebil nadsi books

>> No.6830300
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>>6829154
they usually don't read

or if they do, whatever propaganda their supreme leader shoves down their throats.

>> No.6832717

>>6829755
>Stalin
>Mussolini
confirmed for not being ΟΥΤΙΣ

>> No.6832837

>>6829197
there are no qtpis in this video

I always thought nationalists were physically attractive skinny beauties not overweight/nearsighted pants palsy

>> No.6832927

>>6830300
>American propaganda

>> No.6832969

>>6832927
Shut the fuck up you atheist nazi.