/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6818978]

Daily reminder that if you aren't published by the age of 25 (twenty-five) you will NEVER be patrician and your work will NEVER be canon.

[Anonymous No.6818981]

>>6818978
well memed

[Anonymous No.6818983]

>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo Calvino was 23 when The Path to the Nest of the Spiders was published
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
>Goethe was 25 when The Sorrows of Young Werther was published
>Musil was 25 when The Confusions of Young Torless was published
>Hemingway was 25 when In Our Time was published
>Tatsuhiko Takimoto was 24 when Welcome to the NHK was published
>Ryu Murakami was 24 when Almost Transparent Blue was published
>Garcia Marquez was 20 when Eyes of a Blue Dog was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Napoleon III as a President" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Fate and History" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when Free Will and Fate was published
>Nietzsche was 19 when "Can the Envious Ever Truly Be Happy?" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "On Tendencies" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "My Life" was published
>Saramago was 25 years old when Land of Sun was published
>Dickens was 24 when Sketches by Boz was published
>Dickens was 25 when The Pickwick Papers was published
>Huxley was 25 when Limbo was published
>James Joyce was 25 when Chamber Music was published
>Proust was 25 when Pleasures and Days was published
>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 21 when Less Than Zero was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 23 when Rules of Attraction was published
>Kenzaburō Ōe was 23 when Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids was published
>Emile Zola was 24 when Contes à Ninon was published
>Balzac was 20 when Cromwell was published
>Baudelaire was 24 when Salon of 1845 was published
>Hitomi Kanehara was 20 when Snakes and Earrings was published
>Stig Dagerman was 23 when Ormen was published
>Strindberg was 22 when The Outlaw was published
>Ibsen was 22 when Catiline was published
>Milan Kundera was 24 when Man: A Wide Garden was published
>Adam Thirwell was 24 when Politics was published
>Ned Beaumann was 25 when Boxer, Beetle was published
>Norman Mailer was 25 when The Naked and the Dead was published
>Eleanor Catton was 22 when The Rehearsal was published
>Robert Walser was 23 when Schneewittchen was published
>Noah Cicero was 23 when The Human War was published
>Jorge Luis Borges was 24 when Fervor de Buenos Aires was published
>Tolstoy was 24 when Childhood was published
>Johan Harstad was 23 when Amublance was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 21 when i will never be beautiful enough for us to be beautiful together was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 23 when Collected Tweets was published
>Kim Insuk was 20 when Bloodline was published
>Evelyn Waugh was 25 when Decline and Fall was published

[Anonymous No.6819098]

>>6818978
Dankposting on 4chan is literally the worst.

[Anonymous No.6819105]

>>6818983
>>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
wat?

[Anonymous No.6819107]

[Anonymous No.6819114]

>wanting to be in the canon

besides you can just lie about your age

[Anonymous No.6819116]

>1912-1883

[Anonymous No.6819118]

>>6819114
You can't lie about your age. Irvine Welsh tried it and failed. Zachary Cole Smith from DIIV tried it and failed.

[Anonymous No.6819120]

>>6819118
just don't fail

[lacto No.6819122]

you sound like my grandmother. who cares??

[Anonymous No.6819130]

>I have two years left!

[Anonymous No.6819131]

>>6819122
>who cares?

1. Publishers: if you're young then you're considered a hot author who can sell copies partly as a result of your novelty.

2. Readers: young readers flock to authors writing about their own generation from a perspective they can relate to. Look at alt-lit, the quality is terrible on the whole yet the writers associated with it are popular as hell among teens and cool, hip kids.

3. Females: if you're 25 and under and have published a novel you can be as autistic and socially retarded as you like and females will think you are deep, mysterious and incredibly profound. Signing the dotted line with a publisher in your early twenties is like signing up for unlimited PTAP for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.6819139]

>>6819130
i have five years left, although soon it's going to be four

better get cracking on that novel

[Anonymous No.6819140]

>publishers
>readers
>females
>things a writer should care about

choose 1

[Anonymous No.6819143]

>>6819131

Neither of those three groups matter in the great scheme of things. If those three groups had their way, none of the books we now consider classic would have been published

[Anonymous No.6819146]

>>6819140
You need publishers to publish (unless you want to self-publish and have only your mom read it out of sympathy).

You need readers to read your book.

You need females to vacuum your seed and ease your existential angst.

[Anonymous No.6819148]

>>6819143
>m-muh obscure authors are obscure because of their unique genius

[Anonymous No.6819158]

>>6819148

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Western_Canon:_The_Books_and_School_of_the_Ages

See all these authors? Most of them lived and published and became successful without focus groups, hipster art faggots, empty suit marketeers and whiny tumblerinas telling them their work was worth publishing.

The fact that all of these works will probably outlive SuPERRandoM QuiRky ComING Of Age NovEl #455345 tells me this whole publishing culture is kind of overrated

[Anonymous No.6819535]

>>6819158
lel. 90% of those books are SuPERRandoM QuiRky ComING Of Age NovEl #455345

[Anonymous No.6819875]

de sade wasn't published until he was over fifty.

universe: 1
OP: 0

[Anonymous No.6819889]

>>6818978
>Truman Capote

Fuck him, it's his fault Pynchon didn't get the Pulitzer

[Anonymous No.6819928]

>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask

[Anonymous No.6819930]

and I thought I was coming here to relieve stress..
Im just going to go back to bed

[Anonymous No.6819946]

>>6819930
The trouble with a lot of humanities students, including myself way back when, is that you have a predisposition to be creative, and to appreciate creative achievements and values, but you lack a masculine side to your character which reinforces the desire to create with the self-discipline to strong will to facilitate your creativity. My no bullshit advice to you is to get into a routine of waking up early, reading, studying, completing your work, and writing. Organize your day and get all of the embarrasing writing out of your system as soon as possible.

Too many young beta guys lacking a strong father figure allow their potential to be squandered by a casually nihilistic view of the world and a needy, self-pitying impatience because the fruits of their alleged genius isn't handed to them on a plate the same way all their childhood rewards were

[Anonymous No.6819958]

>>6818978
>implying anyone on this board has any form of ambition

[Anonymous No.6819969]

I'm 22 and haven't written creatively since year 10 of highschool.

Can I still become a nobel-prize winning author by the end of the decade?

[Anonymous No.6820021]

>tfw published 14 days after 26th birthday

I can already feel the mediocrity of my career.
It's not a joke anons. It's already too late for me

[Anonymous No.6820031]

>>6820021
Prove it

[Anonymous No.6821244]

>>6818978
Tell that to pic related.

[Anonymous No.6821262]

>>6818978
>>6820783

I created both of these threads btw

[Anonymous No.6823379]

>>6819889
Pulitzer's a pretty bullshit prize for lit, so who cares

[Anonymous No.6823519]

>>6821262
Then you should kill yourself immediately because you can never top this.

[Anonymous No.6823707]

>>6821244
>random old dude

ewww

[Anonymous No.6823719]

Does that include literary journals and short story magazines?

[Anonymous No.6823748]

>>6820031
>implying anyone would risk an already fragile career by proving they post here.

[Anonymous No.6823760]

>>6819946
goddamn

[Anonymous No.6823764]

>>6818978
I've had my interviews published in print magazines that reach over 60,000 people. I'm 20, and if I can do it, you fuckers sure as hell can too.

[Anonymous No.6823768]

>>6823764
interviews don't count faggot, we are talking about a publisher publishing your novel.

any retard can get his words in print, especially doing interviews or academic papers or anything else a literal monkey could do.

[Anonymous No.6823769]

>>6823768
but publishers are only after what's profitable and my work may be alienating to some and thus unprofitable and thus won't be published

[Anonymous No.6823773]

>>6819969
No. You can't. Not doing what you're not doing right now.

[Anonymous No.6823779]

>>6818978
>that strange feel when OP misses some words, "your work will never be canon"...you mean "IN the canon"...since when did canon enjoy adjective/noun status

[Anonymous No.6823782]

>>6823768
>it is very hard to get a novel published
>www.harlequin.com/

[Anonymous No.6823848]

>>6819105
This. It was published years and years after his death.

[Anonymous No.6825020]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Moresco

[Anonymous No.6825046]

>>6823779
you're actually wrong here mate

[Anonymous No.6825050]

>>6818978
What about being self-published?