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Are there any good biographies on Thatcher? I really admire her, especially for how she crushed the left, but it's hard to get a true understanding of her underlying personality.

>> No.6806731

She used to read Rand from what I know

>> No.6806734

>>6806727
Will this shill never end? Fuck off this board!

>> No.6806735

>>6806727

Northerner here

All you really need to know is that Thatcher ruined any other city's chance at developing as much as London's had in the UK since she moved all business there.

Wasn't necessarily a bad PM like a lot of people here in the north like to paint her as but she took a lot of risks and I admire how ballsy she was when it came to certain decisions.

>> No.6806745

Though not a biography I recommend you check out "The Myth of the Strong Leader: Political Leadership in the Modern Age" by Archie Brown. It has a lot of information about how she ruled and her personality.

>> No.6806759

>>6806735
>All you really need to know is that Thatcher ruined any other city's chance at developing as much as London's had in the UK since she moved all business there.
That's a bit of an oversimplification of her 3 governments isn't it?

>> No.6807034

>>6806727
I recommend her autobiography. I read "The Downing Street Years" and liked it. It's entertaining reading

>> No.6807040

>>6806759
>That's a bit of an oversimplification of her 3 governments isn't it?
>implying it would be that easy to just relocate an entire country's business enterprise into 1 city in a single term

oh, she also told the argentines to fuck off over a bit of shit land that we hardly need

>> No.6807043

>>6806727
There's nothing to understand. You can find her in the dictionary under "psychobitch".

>> No.6807048
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6807048

She helped Reagan put the communist scourge out of it's misery, for that we can be truly thankful. May it never return to darken this earth with it's presence again.

God bless that wonderful woman.

>> No.6807053

>>6807048
the sad thing is it's quite likely ronnie believed that quote

>> No.6807055

>>6806735
>scotcucks

Keep watching Braveheart in the basement while crying and masurbating you fucking pict.

>> No.6807060

>>6806731
oh it shows Marge

>> No.6807064

>>6806735
>how ballsy she was
we all know there's nothing ballsy about being a politician, the only ballsy thing a politician can do is to renounce

>> No.6807084

>>6807048
Reminder that the true people who brought down the Soviet Union are Lech Walesa, John Paul II, and Mikhail Gorbachev.

>> No.6807089

>>6806727
I recommend her autobiography "Mein Kampf"

>> No.6807161

The President, the Pope, And the Prime Minister: Three Who Changed the World by John O'Sullivan

>> No.6807262

>>6807048
So he admits anti-communists just say they understand Marx and Lenin without actually reading them?

>> No.6807546

Once upon a time there was a vile witch who finally died.

The end.

>> No.6807596

>>6807048

btfo

"If communists understood economics, they wouldn't be communists."

--Milton Friedman

>> No.6807601

>>6807262
No if you read the quote he says the people who understand Marx and Lenin aren't marxists or leninists

>> No.6807628
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6807628

>>6806735
>handed control of the economy to foreign speculators
>ran enormous budget deficits despite the discovery of north sea oil
>funded the khmer rouge
>destroyed all local government to enforce centralisation
>forced further EU integration eroding British democracy
>destroyed trade unionism making the UK a low wage basket case
>sacrificed 250 British men to save some sheep
>Wasn't necessarily a bad PM

km8nice1

>> No.6807654

>>6807596
>btfo
No, it's a stupid childish quote

>> No.6807698

Wicked

>> No.6807700

>>6807596
"Sometimes when I'm jacking off in the shower, I like to sit down and bend backwards onto my shoulders and spray my hot jizz into my own mouth."

--Milton Friedman

>> No.6807705

>>6807654
Actually it's pretty accurate.

>> No.6807717

>>6806727
>>/pol/

Piss off. You don't want to read a "good biography", you want to continue riding her dick. You want to know which of her biographies were written by authors who share the same political views as you? Well, that's a question for /pol/, not /lit/.

>> No.6809357

bump

>> No.6809384

>>6807601
Reagan never read either, ergo, he understands them without reading them.

>> No.6809400

>>6806727
>I really admire her, especially for how she crushed the left and drove the UK into poverty
>t's hard to get a true understanding of her underlying personality.
She has no personality.

>> No.6811667

bump

>> No.6811671

>>6807628
This

>> No.6811678

why are there so many /pol/tards here this week?

>> No.6811699

Haha nothing like bringing up Thatcher to seriously trigger the marxist teenagers on this board.

Based Margaret.

>> No.6811725
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6811725

>not reading about the true GOAT

>> No.6811755

>>6811725
tony blair with the phoney hair

>> No.6811760

>>6807700
>self-sufficiency is bad all of a sudden

>> No.6811779

>>6806727
>being a tory

How do you want your economy?
Just fuck my shit up

>> No.6811783

>>6811779
Feeling threatened for your bennies lad?

>> No.6811790

>>6811725
>Thatcher with a friendly face

>> No.6811800

>>6811783
Feeling threatened by our stagnant productivity, enormous trade deficit and mounting national debt tbh

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>>6811790
You love New Labour really anon, I know you do.

>> No.6811813

tories will never be able to appreciate literature because they are unable to empathise with anyone but themselves

>> No.6811816

>>6811725
Belongs in an Iraqi prison.

>> No.6811818

>>6807596
>Friedman
oi vey

>> No.6811820

>>6811813
Nice rhetoric lad.

>> No.6812710

I think its really sad that people on this website have had such a stunted development that they'd go to the extent of admiring Thatcher due to the fact they associate 'the left' as a caricature of of whatever SJW values they hate.

>> No.6812788

>>6812710

If contemporary leftists are overwhelmingly SJW nutjobs aren't they simply "the Left"? No point in pretending the Left of the 20th century is still the true Left if it doesn't coincide with the reality on the ground.

>> No.6812799

>>6806727
>admiring anyone from the establishment

top cuck

>> No.6812809

>>6812788
Not only is the left not "overwhelmingly SJW nutjobs" but they aren't even a significant minority.

>> No.6812839

>>6812809

This overwhelming majority you refer to must be awfully timid.

>> No.6812846

>>6812839
Maybe you should stop spending all day on /pol/ and start reading the programs of the main leftist parties in across the globe.

>> No.6812862

>>6812788
What do miner communities in the 1980s have to do with identity politics in the 21st century? Congratulations on admiring on a woman who attempted to wipe a culturally distinct, white community who played a major role in Britain's position in the world in the 19th and 20th century.

>> No.6812867

>>6812862
jesus christ ignore all those typos

>> No.6812878

>>6812846

I don't have time to read party manifestos. Perhaps you can give me the low-down on what they're advocating?
Not anything radical, or particuarly socialist, I bet. Regardless of rhetoric, these "leftist' parties all capitulate once in power anyway, pretending gay marriage or marijuana legalisation are the most pressing issues of our times.

Face it, the Left you loved is dead.

>> No.6812887

>>6812862

Huh? Perhaps you ignored the context of my post. Genuinely miffed.

>> No.6812894

>>6812887
Assuming you are OP, you said you admired Thatcher for how she crushed the left, I pointed out how 'the left' she crushed is completely at odds at whatever you believe 'the left' to be today, and that you must be a sociopath to admire her for what she did.

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6812895

>marginalism
I expected more from you /lit/

>> No.6812915

>>6812894

Well, I'm not OP. It's quite obvious he's not serious anyway.

>> No.6812932

>>6812809
the SJW ethos totally dominates academic and activist leftism. maybe you like to believe there are a lot of blue collar leftists sitting around not making their voices heard but that's probably not true.

im a far leftist myself but the fact is bourgeois SJW progressives have hijacked the movement.

>> No.6812943

>>6807048
>>6807055

is this fun posting or legitimately pathetic? i can't tell

>> No.6812949

>>6812932

You possess the power to face an unpleasant fact many socialists/anarchists/old guard haven't been able to.

>> No.6812955

>>6812788

you live in a bubble. sjw's are a vocal minority. they are not the political left. in most countries that aren't America identity politics isn't a big deal. you created a boogeyman scapegoat to fling shit at, that's all. the real world looks completely different. there isn't even such a thing as a united political left.

>> No.6812960

>>6812932

>>6812955

leave your basement

>> No.6812966

>>6812955

I don't live in the States. Name one country in the West where what I stated isn't the case.

>> No.6812995

>>6812966

Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy..

Those countries have far bigger problems (mostly economic for every country but Ger) and none of their political lefts really cares about identity politics.

>> No.6813007

>>6812995

You haven't visited Germany in the past decade. Spain admittedly has plenty of Marxish class warfare rhetoric bouncing about. But I fear it's just that - rhetoric.

Italy doesn't have a left.

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6813008

this is bait

>> No.6813023

>>6812995

Greece may yet (pleasantly) surprise me by mutating into 1930s Spain.

At the moment, however, the political Left is ineffective and uninspiring. Recent events have confimed this.

>> No.6813297

>>6812932
>totally dominates
you are a very silly anon

>> No.6813302

>>6806727
>Tories having a personality

>> No.6813314

>>6807700
>tfw you have more in common with someone you admire than you realize

>> No.6814817

>>6811678

They've been infecting the other boards for awhile now, m8. Like a slowly spreading plague.