/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6803715]

>comedians are the modern day philosophers

[Anonymous No.6803721]

When You Get Your Philosophy From A Comedian, Don't Be Surprised When It Turns Out To Be A Fucking Joke!!!

[Anonymous No.6803722]

Sure they are
>in the political sense

[Anonymous No.6803728]

>>6803715

[Anonymous No.6803732]

Philosophy is unimportant and so are comedians. Guess you're right.

[Anonymous No.6803738]

>>6803732
>Nothing matters except STEM!

Am I right?

[Anonymous No.6803743]

>>6803738

Same guy and no you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.6803746]

>>6803715
Don't make this a STEMfag vs the world debate.
If you don't have a healthy appreciation of philosophy and literature as well as some STEM, you're a pleb.

[Anonymous No.6803752]

>>6803746
Meant to quote >>6803738

[Anonymous No.6803754]

>>6803732
Pretty much this.

Reading philosophy is comedy. I mean, people actually listened to these irrelevant pretentious knobs and still do today. It's the best black humor there is. It's depressing because people still read and believe it, but it's hilarious that college students can be so fucking stupid.

>not good at math
>not good at science
>not good at arts that matter
>not good at anything that matters

>here
>have a philosophy degree

XD

Fucking TOP GODDAMN KEK

[Anonymous No.6803757]

Aaaaand here we go

[Anonymous No.6803759]

>>6803754
Impressive shitpost.

[Anonymous No.6803760]

>>6803738
No, literature and arts matter.

Philsophy, however, is the least important piece of shit study. It's on the same level as anything Freudian.

Worthless, a mistake, and used to tempt highschool grads into making University's money.

[Anonymous No.6803766]

>>6803759
I have to say, Aristotle has me beet BY A FUCKING MILE.

Honestly. You must think philosophy is relevant. Do the world a favor. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6803769]

>a good philosopher
No such thing. Everyone one of the arguments against science and empiricism by philosophers amounts to 'But what ifff!!?? :'(((('.

It is a shitty field/profession/whateveryouretardscallit for morons who can't do basic logic and math. All of philosophy seems to be rear guard action against the inevitable end where science proves it to be the playground of retards. They've lost a lot of ground already and are too stupid to admit it.

>inb4 waa waah waht or where did we lose?
Physics come to mind. The movement of the planets

>inb4 some stuff isn't known so philosophy is still gud
Just because we don't know the full picture doesn't mean you get to fill in the blanks with fairy tales.

[Anonymous No.6803775]

>>6803760
>>6803769

>tfw people will respond to this seriously

[Anonymous No.6803781]

>>6803775
>mfw people get philosophy and psychoanalytical degrees seriously

[Anonymous No.6803785]

>>6803769
>Just because we don't know the full picture doesn't mean you get to fill in the blanks with fairy tales.


/religion
/philosophy
/NEETs
/thread

[Anonymous No.6803786]

>>6803775
continental dream warrior detected

you and the christfags need to fuck off to
>>>/x/

with your unfalsifiable bullshit

[Anonymous No.6803791]

>>6803746
I don't have appreciation for outdated useless bullshit.

And if you do, then you're a fucking failure.

[Anonymous No.6803793]

Was Carlin a fedora? Also, anyone got opinions on Lenny Bruce?

[Anonymous No.6803796]

The really funny part is stemfags, philosophy fags, and religious fags all take themselves so seriously.

[Anonymous No.6803797]

>>6803760

I can't imagine why anyone would bother into Philsophy but it seems like a well-developed field of study

can i a comedian??

>>6803715
It's funny, the other day I was thinking that 20th century writers styles/rhetoric were appropriated by comedians. Comedians want to catch your attention and make you laugh, as philosophers had to do so as well and make you think. But before thinking there is that sort of epiphany or "ooooh i get it" moment that is sort of a laughter.

Wittgenstein, humor and knowledge.

And
"A perceptive or incisive joke can be more meaningful than platitudes lying between two covers."

[Anonymous No.6803801]

>>6803796
>I'm a NEET
>I'm worthless in every way
>People who follow dreams and education in things they like are fucking lame and take themselves too seriously
>look at me I don't take anything seriously
>and I live at home with mom and shitpost all day
>this is the way life was meant to be
>now where is my trap folder
>I need to depressingly masturbate for the fifth time today

[Anonymous No.6803804]

>>6803786
If anything, your shitpost would be pissing off analytics. At least if it weren't so obviously trying to piss people off.

[Anonymous No.6803808]

>>6803791
Science lacks ethics faggot.

[Anonymous No.6803816]

>>6803801

I'm a 28 year old man with my own home. A freight train conductor on the bnsf railroad make 100,000 a year to ride trains from town to town drink booze at hotel bars and write in my spare time. I do masturbate a lot though but that's about all you'll ever be right about in your life you joke.

[Anonymous No.6803820]

>>6803816
How does one become a freight train conductor?

[Anonymous No.6803823]

>>6803804
>opinion disagrees with my unfalsifiable "it's all subjective" bullshit theory
>must be le epin troll
seriously get the fuck off my board

>>6803808
>implying ethics can't be derived from science

read sam harris you goof

[Anonymous No.6803829]

>>6803820

Apply online. Environmental fags are kicking our ass with what they've done to coal plants so right now might not be a great time to hire on. Business is slow and they're laying people off at the end of summer.

[Anonymous No.6803830]

>>6803808
>The moment we admit that questions of right and wrong, and good and evil, are actually questions about human and animal well-being, we see that science can, in principle, answer such questions. Human experience depends on everything that can influence states of the human brain, ranging from changes in our genome to changes in the global economy. The relevant details of genetics, neurobiology, psychology, sociology, economics etc. are fantastically complicated, but these are domains of facts, and they fall squarely within the purview of science.

>We should reserve the notion of "morality" for the ways in which we can affect one another's experience for better or worse. Some people use the term "morality" differently, of course, but I think we have a scientific responsibility to focus the conversation so as to make it most useful. We define terms like "medicine," "causation," "law" and "theory" very much to the detriment of homeopathy, astrology, voodoo, Christian Science and other branches of human ignorance, and there is no question that we enjoy the same freedom when speaking about concepts like "right" and "wrong," and "good" and "evil." Once we acknowledge that "morality" relates to questions of human and animal well-being, then there is no reason to doubt that a prescriptive (rather than merely descriptive) science of morality is possible. After all, there are principles of biology, psychology, sociology and economics that will allow us to flourish in this world, and it is clearly possible for us not to flourish due to ignorance of these principles.

[Anonymous No.6803832]

>>6803830
That's philosophy fyi

[Anonymous No.6803835]

>>6803832
true, the only good philosophy

[Anonymous No.6803841]

>implying Patreeky wasn't one of the wisest men to ever live.

[Anonymous No.6803843]

>>6803830
Aristotle would argue that all "Sammy" does is dissuade you from pursuing Formal and Final Causes and turn to Material and Efficient Causes, namely the ones "science" deals with.

>Q.: Why Good and Evil?
>A.: How Good and Evil.

[Anonymous No.6803851]

>>6803760
philosophy can have literary vallue and art very often imposes philosophical questions

[Anonymous No.6803888]

>>6803823
>look guys i troll xD

[Anonymous No.6803890]

Yes, laugh is itself associated with communication and learning, so, they can associate concepts with "funny".

[Anonymous No.6803893]

>>6803760
>I have never read any philosophy in my life: the post

[Anonymous No.6803896]

OP they mean comedians turn societal conventions on their head by pushing the envelope of public discourse

in the sense that there are no more provocative philosophers anymore i see what you mean.

but tbh if socrates was around today nigga would be on youtube and getting laughed at for sperging at strangers in a minute flat homie

[Anonymous No.6803903]

>>6803830
>what is the is/ought gap?

[Anonymous No.6803912]

>>6803715
>modern day philosophers are comedians

[Anonymous No.6803914]

>>6803760
actually philosophy when it deals with real shit real people deal with is p dope. understanding your place in the world, the nature of the human being as a ratonal animal, the nature of mind, emotions, and reality etc. long as it translates to something practical and real

what people are repulsed by is analytic anal retentive "everything is a social construct maaan" horseshit no one whose known the touch of a woman gives a fuck about

[Anonymous No.6803917]

>>6803830
The fact that there are genuinely people IN THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW who think this is a good argument is why we need philosophy. Jesus cunting christ.

[Anonymous No.6803927]

>>6803914
>is analytic anal retentive "everything is a social construct maaan" horseshit no one whose known the touch of a woman gives a fuck about

That isn't analytic philosophy though, that is 15 year old dudebro who smoked some read and read a continental school book shit.

[Anonymous No.6803938]

>>6803927
tbh I think my labels are off, I just stick with the greeks. what i mean is philosophy that is dismissive of value statements and literally anything that a normal person might have an interest in because BLAH BLAH INTER-SUBJECTIVAL MORALITY BLAH BLAH RELATIVISM BLAH BLAH pomo shit

thanks for not calling me a faggot anon

[Anonymous No.6803950]

>>6803766

[Anonymous No.6803952]

>>6803938
Yeah I agree with you, It's bullshit and it's everywhere and what so many people think philosophy is.

The worst one is people going "Oh but it's philosophy so there are no wrong answers!"

That is the complete fucking opposite of the case, there is no non-STEM academic discipline where you are held to task on your bullshit more than in philosophy, not only can you be wrong but you can be ridiculed for just talking complete meaningless trash, and this will happen constantly to you until you learn how to formulated arguments properly and carefully.

[Anonymous No.6803982]

>>6803912
If you read/watch/listen to Zizek as a comedian rather than a philosopher, he makes more sense and is a lot better.

[Anonymous No.6803996]

>philosphy is yin
>science is yang

[Anonymous No.6804003]

>>6803996
Not really the two are so closely entwined they are often the same thing. It'd be more like science and art and yin and yang and philosophy is what comes out of that dialectic.

[Anonymous No.6804021]

>>6804003
>yang is associated with creativeness
That'd mean art is intensely yang and philosophy/science is less intensely yang

[Anonymous No.6804392]

>>6803996
Science is rooted in philosophy.
Philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence. The scientific method was born out of this type of thinking, literally, by the likes of Aristotle.
Its application to different subjects lead to the sciences as they are.

[Anonymous No.6804406]

>>6803903
unfalsifiable

>>6803917
>I can't refute you
I accept your apology

>>6803843
Aristotle was a moron who thought snot was brain matter. means literally nothing to me.

[Anonymous No.6804624]

>>6803775
you are literally responding to a copypasta

[Anonymous No.6804650]

>>6804406
>Aristotle was a moron who thought snot was brain matter.

You're judging Aristotle for the wrong reasons.

[Anonymous No.6805063]

>>6803732
I take it you've never been to Europe.

[Anonymous No.6806449]

>>6803715

They're folk philosophers

[Anonymous No.6806464]

>>6804406
>Aristotle was a moron who thought snot was brain matter
wait a sec, there was somebody here before dismissing everything based Ari said.

[Anonymous No.6806476]

>>6803830
>utilitarianism is self-evident
sammy pls

[Anonymous No.6806500]

>>6803715
Comedians find a repressed thought process, usually a contradiction, press on it to absurd proportions and let it quickly snap back revealing the paradoxical nature of our actions before the audience has a chance to decode this process... Laughter...

Comedians are anti-philosophers. They suggest that you should value the most distracting answers to the most profoundly exaggerated questions. Pointing out the insignificant contradictions and differences which are more easily explained is more important to them than drawing attention to the best answers. They themselves will never attempt to find out anything truly philosophical because they love the distraction just as much as next guy.

[Anonymous No.6806529]

>>6803715
Laughter is an expression of scorn.

[Anonymous No.6806558]

>>6803830
dude's reach is exceeding his grasp. we don't have the technology yet to go around poking in our brains and flipping all the happy switches, so ill stick with my wisdom traditions thanks brah