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6793020 No.6793020 [Reply] [Original]

Ok maybe I am a dummee, but based on the crash course history series, this guy seems to know a lot of tingies, stupid kiddy humor aside. How is it then that a person with a decent scope of knowledge can write such pretentious teen poopy?

>> No.6793034

>>6793020

His knowledge lets him know how to cater to teen plebs.

>> No.6793046

>>6793020
>pretentious
Opinion disregarded.

>> No.6793048

>>6793020
He knows nothing in depth at all. He is very successful no doubt and he knows how to write fiction however his grasp on history and other "crash courses" is only useful to people who can only limit their attention span to agenda driven youtube videos.

If you look into ANY of his "crash course" videos he has done nothing but skim the surface; they are essentially video versions of wikipedia.

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6793054

Leaving the question of how much one needs to research to make 10 minute videos on a broad subject (and constructing leftist parallels to the US),
and leaving aside to what extent he believes in everything he does and writes,
you ask how he
>can write such pretentious teen poopy?
without realizing he's a winner.
He sells what he wants to get out and that's what counts in this biz.

>> No.6793064

>>6793048
>If you look into ANY of his "crash course" videos he has done nothing but skim the surface

Do you understand what "crash course" means?

>> No.6793074

>>6793046
It is pretentious though, there are passages that try to pass themselves off as profound truths but are really little more than purple paragraphs of banal clichés

>> No.6793081

>>6793064
Yes of course but the OP was asking how he knows so much but writes trash, I was replying directly to that explaining the crash courses are not something that show any evidence of broad knowledge.

Sorry if that was difficult for you to understand.

>> No.6793082

>decent scope of knowledge
>implying he's not just rearranging the sentences on wikipedia articles and replacing a couple words with synonyms

>> No.6793084

>>6793082
this
he's basically 'modern academia: the teenfic writer'

>> No.6793099

>>6793020
I have no problem with him.
Never read any of his books. I watched a few crash course videos and thats it.

I see no reason to dislike him. You don't like his writing? He's a young adult author. If you're not between the ages of 12 and 18 then no fucking shit you're not going to impressed with his writing.

Whats next? Hating Maurice Sendak because Where the Wild Things Are isn't high brow enough? Give me a fucking break you pretentious assholes.

>> No.6793103

Someone actually wrote a rebuttal to every single mistake he made in his alexander the great video. there are a lot of them
http://pastebin.com/QTjC44WZ

and the accompanying video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrkWDCvxg

whether he gets that much wrong consistently or he twists facts to pander to his demographic I would by no means consider his videos accurate.

>> No.6793108

>>6793081
>Sorry if that was difficult for you to understand.

Wow I wish I could punch you for ending your little comeback with a line like that one.

I bet you were bullied in school and consider yourself an intellectual too.

>> No.6793117

>>6793099

>It's for young people, that means it's okay to be bad.
>Bad writing has no affect on young readers and doesn't waste their time and isn't the intellectual equivalent of junk food

Also, Sendak is GOAT, no one faults it for not being high brow. Even Harold Bloom thinks it's great.

>> No.6793121

>>6793108
did he strike a nerve? your response reeks of reddit.

>> No.6793126

>>6793099
You missed the point entirely

>> No.6793128

>>6793117
>young adults are reading books. Actual books.
>ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Okay.

>> No.6793139

>>6793128
>young adults are reading books
But they don't! Their eyes simply scan the page. Then they turn to the next page. Their minds are deadened by cliches. Nothing is required of them, absolutely nothing. Nothing happens to them. They are invited to avoid reality, to avoid the world and they are not invited to look inward, into themselves. But of course it is an exercise in futility to try to oppose John Green.

>> No.6793141

>>6793103
His Odyssey video is just as bad.

>> No.6793172

>>6793128
Bad written fiction is objectively worse than no written fiction. This kind of thinking is what makes publishing success so hard nowadays unless you're a woman willing to cash a buck on teen romance dystopia.

>> No.6793216

>>6793020
who cares about teen poopy? or should I say, what's wrong with teen poopy? Some teen poopy is good. Every once in a while I pick up a Paul Zindel or ME Kerr book or something and I enjoy it. They might not bounce around in my thoughts as long as other books, but they're not a rank waste of time, either. And the kids who I see reading contemporary YA at my school are bright and interesting and inquisitive. I see no problem.

>> No.6793226

>>6793216
'Now the problem with calling the greaks great, guys, gals, and genderfluids, is that you can't reeaallly call a society based on slavery and sexism great' - John Green

>> No.6793317

>>6793020
Many of his crash course vids, mainly the Dark Ages, Alexander the Great and the Odyssey videos are hilariously bad. The Dark Age video is so bad it is immediately clear that he hasn't even read the wikipedia article, let alone studied it or done a degree in medieval or ancient history.

His grasp of military history is universally pathetic in all his videos. He has little appreciation for the realities, resources, scale of several conflicts, and even less for the strategies.

His constant raising of misogyny when talking about essentially bronze age and iron age societies is pandering to his demographic, it's also a bad case of presentism. It isn't objective to judge people from more than 2000 years ago for not being secular humanists.

>> No.6793327

>>6793317
>it is immediately clear that he hasn't even read the wikipedia article, let alone studied it or done a degree in medieval or ancient history.

He hasn't. He says at the end of the video his HS history teacher writes the show.

>> No.6793337

>>6793020
How can you not know that someone else writes the show, if you've watched the series? He says it after every single episode.

>> No.6793344

i'm glad john green is successful and none of you autistic 'muh sacred literature' queefs aren't,

>> No.6793529

>>6793226
yeah I don't care one way or the other about your quote

>> No.6793543

>>6793529
'So ended this winter, and with it the fifteenth year of the war' - Johm Green

>> No.6793734

>>6793103
such a satisfying essay

>> No.6793774

he quit tumblr. some girl called him creepy for pandering to teenage girls. he accused her of accusing him of sexually abusing kids. some shit like that

>> No.6793861

>>6793774

Somebody got a link/screencap for this?

>> No.6793941

>>6793020
That what an average teen in the late 19th century would know, apart from Latin and Greek. The teen would have a much better command of it.

>> No.6793961

>>6793020
Judging by his Youtube videos he probably writes with a purpose to inform/make people's lives better, because teens don't have someone who just like, gets them.

>> No.6794018

>>6793099
this is exactly right. the very fact that he is popular means he's good at what he does, which is writing novels that will appeal to young teenagers. he's not trying to be the next Nabokov or whatever.

>> No.6794798

>>6793020
"John Green"? Literally never heard of him. What does he do?

>> No.6794802

>>6793941
The average teen of the 19th century was illiterate, you idiot.

>> No.6796403

>>6793121
>reddit

oh wow some one please make take a screen shot of this genuss ebic insulkt

>> No.6796406

. . . they are scripted

and he still fucks things up

my got

>> No.6796531

And GRRM is apparently great at chess, but still writes those shitty books.

General intelligence =/= good writer

>> No.6796559

>>6796531
Great at chess =/= general intelligence.

I'm curious about GRRMs chess rating though.

>> No.6796624

>>6793103
>try to watch video
>talking to his past self about Kardashians and Jersey Shore
>extremely fast speaking
How does anyone watch this shit for more than a few seconds without cringing? Is this what being old is like?

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>>6793020

>> No.6796655

>>6796628

what a cuck comment. if a womens had 48 partners like his cheerio eating habits she'd probably have a complete lack of morals and be a literal prostitute.

>> No.6796678

>>6796655
>implying 48 isn't about average for a 24yo somewhat slutty chick

you have to stop listening when they lie to you mane

>> No.6796829

>>6793121
Le reddit? Nóoooooooooooooõoooooooooooooooooooo