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ITT : We talk as much as we can about a book we haven't read while being pretentious lying cunts.

>Moby Dick
The struggle was interesting, so were the multiple biblical references and the constant power shift between the whale and Ishmael. Very reminiscent of archetypical tales from the west. The zoological descriptions are awful though, I don't see how they are relevant to the work at all. I recommend using the abridged version.

>> No.6771084

lol I'm currently reading MD and I'm not even to the part where Ishmael finally sets to sea and youre already wrong.

>> No.6771091

This book was like at least 300 pages too long. Back stories and side-shows of characters we don't care about. I didn't care for Wallace's portrayal of drug use, which, although it is realistic for the experience of the addict, there are recreational users who aren't addicts. Wallace's characters all just seemed like different versions of himself, despite the length. On top of the sheer amount of information bloating the pages, there is also Wallace showing off. It was clearly his attempt at legacy, when his other writing, though less complex, is better crafted.

>> No.6771370

>>6771064
How is this different from every other thread on here?

>> No.6772009

>>6771091
This book hit peak popularity early last century.
The over-descriptive and superfluos prose driven bumf you mention in your post anon would never be tolerated today in this short attention span society.
Disclaimer-I have not read MD but am currently writing about a true historical voyage which took place earlier yet curiously has never been written about. The voyage of the Union under Capt Isaac Pendleton. The greatest maritime story never told.

>> No.6772022

>>6771064
>The struggle was interesting, so were the multiple biblical references and the constant power shift between the whale and Ishmael. Very reminiscent of archetypical tales from the west. The zoological descriptions are awful though, I don't see how they are relevant to the work at all. I recommend using the abridged version.


I could tell you were lying because you mentioned Ishmael. Replace Ishmael with Ahab.

>> No.6772028
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True expression of the teleological suspension of the ethical. The rocket ship was a brilliant representation of the 20th century warrior poets lapse into the stoic as a result of homeostatic augmentation via post-industrial transformations.

>> No.6772350

>>6771084
damn I tried

>> No.6772380
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Cormac McCarthy's novels have a stark, mythic quality all their own, and Suttree is no different. It's a powerful look at a very haunted, keening individual who has to make some difficult decisions not only for himself, but for a very mysterious, complex woman in his life. McCarthy has some very interesting things to say about the hidden nature of the world around us as it pertains to fate and what it means to be a man.

>> No.6772424

>constant power shift

>tfw when Moby Dick only shows himself in the last three chapter or so.

>> No.6772511

>>6772380
Nah ol' Sutt gets by without any hard decisions during the book because his already made them.

>> No.6772535
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The Broom of The System is a book that could only be written by a young author with everything to prove and nothing to expect. While smaller in scale and arguably less human or personal than Infinite Jest, Broom, unconcerned with pretension or difficulty, threads its narrative through much more academic and abstracted questions, creating for a mind bending comic romp that juggles clunky amateurish moralizing with incredibly profound contemplation like nothing found in Wallace's later works. Where Wallace describes Infinite Jest as his attempt at making avant-garde concepts inviting, Broom is Wallace trying only to establish himself as avant-garde, which with Broom's final chapter in mind -- there's no question he did.

please let this be accurate

>> No.6772552

>>6772535
>incredibly profound contemplation

Vomit.

Also the final chapter was just a rip-off of Pynchon you filthy poz

>> No.6772554

Mr. Dick doesn't give a fuck about a greenhand.
>The zoological descriptions are awful though, I don't see how they are relevant to the work at all
Commonly accepted to be the best part, that and the homolust.

Also, why are you people only posting /lit/ memes? Next someone will post the Bible, I swear.

>> No.6772556

>>6772552
What? Do you know what this thread is?

>> No.6772559

>>6772552

>Also the final chapter was just a rip-off of Pynchon you filthy poz

how could he have any way of knowing is this is even accurate or not you dunce. he is purposefully writing about a book that he hasn't read.

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>>6771064
>and the constant power shift between the whale and Ishmael.
Go to hell you shitposting piece of filth plebeian

>> No.6772935

>>6772561
Read the OP noob

>> No.6772951

>>6771064
>The zoological descriptions are awful though, I don't see how they are relevant to the work at all.
>tfw i got genuinely mad about this before reading your first sentence

>> No.6772985

>>6772951
Why are they important in Moby Dick ? I haven't read Moby Dick

>> No.6772997

>>6772985
moby dick is basically a whole novel of a guy being enthusiastic about everything. the bits about whales are the best bits because of this, and to cut them out and only focus on the narrow ahab vengeance subplot is ridiculous because the entire point of the book is the contrast between the kaleidoscopic encyclopedia of every aspect of whaling and existence vs this one guy's monomaniacal obsession with a single thing to the exclusion of all others

>> No.6773447

>and the other 130 chapters are dense encyclopedic information about whaling

>> No.6773488

>>6772997
But the whale parts are boring as fuck tbh

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>>6771064
that fact Delillo depicts post-war China as even possessing technology capable of cloning a human being in the first place suggests that the rise of that country to the status of "Superpower" in the late 20th/early 21st century, at the expense of the United States as the cloned Mao Zedong became its president at the end of the novel, was fairly self-evident and thus easily predicted. it is an intrinsic arrogance and lack of foresight on the part of the U.S. that such events would come to pass, in either the novel or the actual socio-economical geopolitical realscape of the world we live in, and Delillo damns his country for it.

i have no idea who Delillo is either; Mao II is just a great title

>> No.6773527

>>6773488
only if you're a tasteless pleb

>> No.6773541

>>6773527
I've worked on an authentic 19th century whaling vessel for six years to build up enough background to read Moby-Dick so it feels like useless repetition. Who's the pleb now?

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>>6773513
Kek

>> No.6773816

>>6772552
Joke
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you

>> No.6773948

>>6773513
>socio-economical geopolitical realscape

stealing this for... something

thnx bby

>> No.6773961

Finnegans Wake is an incomprehensible mess.

>> No.6774125

>>6771084
10/10 ruse

>>6772350
10/10 rused

>> No.6774145

I was gonna post about a Murakami novel but I've already read one of them so it would be like cheating.

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It's tough being black

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>>6773513
>i have no idea who Delillo is either