Why does /lit/ hate him and his books so much?

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Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:07:30 2015 No.6715705 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /lit/ hate him and his books so much?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:09:15 2015 No.6715710 TMSD TMSS b TMSS TTSG

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:09:50 2015 No.6715715 File: 234 KB, 930x1393, rosabell-laurenti-sellers-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i like the show because reasons, can't be bothered with the books tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:12:13 2015 No.6715736 >>6715710 wat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:19:19 2015 No.6715771 File: 1.01 MB, 1024x541, Screen-Shot-2014-04-08-at-4.23.36-PM-1024x541.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715715 >because reasons

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:58:51 2015 No.6715916
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The books are actually really enjoyable. I started with the show, which I enjoy, so reading the books I get to read all these subplots and small characters that aren't in there, it's a massive world.

It's put me into a fantasy/sci-fi mood recently, so I'm also going to read pic related soon along with The Book of the New Sun. Anyone got any recs if I enjoy these?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:02:45 2015 No.6715930 /lit/ can't stand a living author who gets rich by writing something that's fun to read, because that's exactly what they wish to be but never will

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:11:34 2015 No.6715965 >>6715705 >the more she drank the more she shat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:12:40 2015 No.6715973 >>6715965 HE SAID SHIT YOU CANT DO THAt IN A BOOK

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:13:26 2015 No.6715979 >>6715965 >HAROOOOOOOOOOOOO >OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:15:14 2015 No.6715983 File: 103 KB, 1015x389, GRRM Prose Shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715965 lel >>6715973 >thinking it's because he said hit lel Santa Claus has shit prose, deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:17:12 2015 No.6715990 >>6715705 I don't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:24:52 2015 No.6716018 >>6715705 He's a shitty writer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:30:28 2015 No.6716047 >>6716018 But he's made some good books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:36:58 2015 No.6716080 /lit/ used to like A Song of Ice and Fire five years ago. It was only after the series got well known that the e/lit/ists started hating on the books.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:41:03 2015 No.6716092

>>6716080
It's not only the fact that it's popular, it's because it's shit. /lit/ stopped watching GoT and actually read the books and found that they are shit.
Go to /tv/ and you will find a lot of people complaining that the books as well as the tv show are shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:42:21 2015 No.6716096 >>6716092 Oh they're not that bad. They certainly aren't high literature, but they're entertaining enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:44:38 2015 No.6716105 >>6716096 You see that most /lit/eratis, even in a meme way, say that what is most important in books is prose (probably because they just passed their literature course). And GRRM prose is shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:46:08 2015 No.6716107 >>6716096 I've had the displeasure of reading the last one or two and no, they're not even entertaining.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:47:10 2015 No.6716111 >>6716080 >pretending to be an oldfag /lit/ is not one person and his books were never called great except by trolls and redditors. They're mediocre even by genre fiction standards

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:48:15 2015 No.6716115

>>6716105
Prose certainly are important, but they are also only a part of what makes a piece of literature entertaining.

>>6716107
Well, we differ in opinions then. I was entertained with the last two. Why did you not only finish the second to last, but decide to read the entire last one if they didn't entertain you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:59:16 2015 No.6716146 >>6715705 Because his work pales in comparison with the Kingdoms of Toranda by P.K.K. Rosenthal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:01:25 2015 No.6716157 >>6716111 what books would you call outstanding by genre fiction standards?

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:06:39 2015 No.6716175

>>6716092
/tv/ complaining that the books are shit is just as clueless as /lit/ complaining that the books are shit.

If you were to criticise the prose specifically, then you would have a point, although at times it's far better than this board pretends.

At the same time the books do a whole host of wonderful things, so trying to judge them as a whole is misleading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:09:39 2015 No.6716182 >>6716157 >genre fiction I've grown tired of /lit/ love of this term. It's been diluted to being next to meaningless on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:16:16 2015 No.6716208 >>6716175 Do tell us about these "wonderful things" so we can laugh at you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:17:59 2015 No.6716218 >>6716175 Everybody who read ASOIAF did it because of GoT. They realised it was shit. Not even the worldbuilding is good, is just a Dungeons & Dragons-tier generic cliche mixed with dark tropes and shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:18:28 2015 No.6716223 File: 129 KB, 724x611, 1407190745929.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw GRRM's prose is still better than any of the posts in critique threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:18:51 2015 No.6716226 >>6716208 Why would I want to do that if I'm going to be laughed at, especially by people who can't even comprehend simple stories?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:19:20 2015 No.6716231 >>6716146 If I'd be a writer I would call myself A.S.S. Shitty McRipoff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:19:53 2015 No.6716234 >>6716218 And all of that is wrong, but nice try.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:20:16 2015 No.6716237 >>6716218 >Dungeons & Dragons tier As a fa/tg/uy I have to say that ASoI&F is nothing like D&D, and only someone who has never played D&D and knows next to nothing about it would say they are similar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:21:41 2015 No.6716244 >>6716218 I read it because of GoT and realized that its good. What now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:21:58 2015 No.6716247 >>6716234 >Y-y-you're w-wrong

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:24:27 2015 No.6716256

>>6716234
tell me why
so far I've seen dragons (generic fantasy), zombies (generic), stupid battles (X character decapitated Y character, the blood was spilled), people shitting (the grimdark part of the book), homosexuals fucking (the "realist" part of the book), special super weapons (valyirian steel, generic shit).
There's even more stupid crap.
>>6716237
D&D is generic fantasy, that's what the creator said. I'm not saying that most D&D stories are shit, but they are generic. ASOIAF happens to make it even worse.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:26:17 2015 No.6716264

>>6716218
I read it because of the tv show, yes, but the only thing I realised was shit was the tv show.

The worldbuilding is great (why are people so obsessed with 'worldbuilding'?), and only someone who's shiposting would compare those books to dungeons and dragons in any way.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:29:46 2015 No.6716277

>>6716256
>D&D is generic fantasy, that's what the creator said. I'm not saying that most D&D stories are shit, but they are generic. ASOIAF happens to make it even worse.
No, what I'm saying is you know next to nothing about D&D if you think setting/lore from ASoI&F and the fluff from D&D are at all similar. D&D, surprisingly, isn't what most people consider generic fantasy when they actually get to reading settings, particularly the shit that happens in Golarion. When space faring undead superweapons fighting godzilla become generic please tell me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:29:50 2015 No.6716280 >>6716256 If that's what you have honestly got out of the series, you A) have not read it B) lack the most basic interpretative skills and attention or C) are shitpositing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:31:00 2015 No.6716285 >>6716277 In the 80s tbh.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:40:10 2015 No.6716314

>>6716264
>and only someone who's shiposting would compare those books to dungeons and dragons in any way.
It's fucking generic and you don't want to accept it. I would rather read Lord of the Rings which has better worldbuilding.
And I'm not obssesed with worldbuilding, it's because people said that ASOIAF has "excellent worldbuilding but the prose is not good".
>>6716277
>and the fluff from D&D are at all similar
It's the same shit.
>D&D, surprisingly, isn't what most people consider generic fantasy
According to whom, anons from /tg/?
Kek. It's generic, even the creator said it was generic, you should already know about it.
Dragons, weapons made from strange super metals, spells with generic names, characters from races with generic names, etc.
All the orc, elves, etc are generic. Now ASOIAF doesn't exactly has those (except dragons are le ebin valyirian steel), but it mixes them making "anti-cliches" which are still cliches.
>space faring godzilla
I wasn't talking about subsettings like Spelljammer, nig. You know what I mean . I've played D&D, got fun, but it's full of cliches and generic "something-brocktar" names. There's nothing wrong with that, but for a book I don't think so.
>>6716280
I'm sorry that all what you are doing is saying that I haven't read the books, I know nothing about literature or I'm a shitposter. You never posted about the points I made, so you are just a fanboy or a shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:43:19 2015 No.6716320 >>6716314 >You never posted about the points I made You haven't made any points, only childish misrepresentations. On the other hand you haven't properly addressed any of the above posts.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:44:11 2015 No.6716321

>>6716314
>Kek. It's generic, even the creator said it was generic, you should already know about it.
Yes, maybe shit like Greyhawk, but Forgotten Realms? Dragonlance? These are some of the standard D&D settings.

>All the orc, elves, etc are generic.
Read some of the adventure paths that delve into orcish culture in Forgotten Realms. It's batshit stupid.

Also when did shit like the Wheel become generic?

> wasn't talking about subsettings like Spelljammer, nig.
That isn't in spelljammer ya tard, that's in bog standard gloarion.

>I've played D&D, got fun, but it's full of cliches and generic "something-brocktar" names.
Really m8, because your knowledge is pretty lacking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:46:45 2015 No.6716329 I like his A Song of Ice and Fire series. They're good for fantasy. Better than Tolkien at least.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:48:10 2015 No.6716335

>>6716320
I have retard. What are you going to do now?
Keep replying me by saying "all what you posted is wrong lel, I don't need to say they are wrong because they are wrong":
>>6716321
>That isn't in spelljammer ya tard, that's in bog standard gloarion.
>LIKE Spelljamer
>LIKE
Holy shit can't you read properly?
There are few generic things in Spelljammer, that's why I mentioned it.
>>6716329
lel

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:49:32 2015 No.6716339

>>6716335
>There are few generic things in Spelljammer, that's why I mentioned it.
Yes, but Golarion is the STANDARD prescribed setting in 3.PF. You were saying that standard D&D is generic, I pointed towards a counter example. Golarion isn't a subsetting, it's what 3.PF has as its foot forward.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:51:15 2015 No.6716345 >>6716096 Like every drawn out fantasy series out there (all of them) it starts off pretty good and then turns to shit. Which is why we stopped reading fantasy. Right? RIGHT?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 22:53:45 2015 No.6716554 I just started reading the first book in the series and I'm really enjoying it. It's simple but compared to other shit I've been working on, it's like popcorn. I'm really excited to get to important plots that haven't been in the TV show.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:11:19 2015 No.6716629 >>6716277 >guys look I made a situation involving lots of generic cliches happening at once so it'snot generic anymore! Nice.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:23:59 2015 No.6716674

>>6716080
>/lit/ used to like A Song of Ice and Fire five years ago. It was only after the series got well known that the e/lit/ists started hating on the books.
The exact same person has been posting this for years and it's always been hilariously bullshit and wrong.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:35:33 2015 No.6716718

the first 3 books of asoiaf are excellent entertainment and decent storytelling. books 4 and 5 aren't bad to the core, but they're very bloated and slow paced.

like I said in another thread, he's not the American Tolkien, not even close, but he created quality low culture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:38:20 2015 No.6716734 File: 131 KB, 500x400, browsing 4chan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If this series is so shit, then what are some good fantasy novels I can read to turn my plebian tastes around?

>>	Mr. T(ripfag) Sun Jun 21 00:10:11 2015 No.6716881 >>6716047 Good books don't always have good writing. Best of both worlds eh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:19:15 2015 No.6716909 >>6716734 The Chronicles of Amber, The Jackelian Series, Malazan Book of the Fallen, The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant come to mind. However I am sure people will come and tell me these all are shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:09:37 2015 No.6718558 /lit/ hates all books that aren't about lonely men sitting at their window contemplating life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:22:32 2015 No.6718580 >>6716734 Darkness That Comes Before, Black Company, Book of the New Sun (if you want the "gritty" sort of fantasy) Also Gormenghast, not really fantasy but I enjoyed it a lot. >>6716909 >Chronicles of Amber My Afro-American compatriot.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:23:44 2015 No.6718585

a few months ago, i was here calling ASOIAF stuff escapist basement dweller bullshit.
i watched an episode of a agot hbo. was hooked. after season was over i decided to read the books. And i have to say, i was very impressed. Until he sewed the wolfs head on rob's neck and turned Jamie Lannister into a cripple.i was like what the fuck yo and tossed the book in exaggerated anger. then i returned and finished it the same night. that was the third book. ive read them all and liked them all.
I would trade in all the memory space in my brain reserved for the entirety of kafka's work which i force-read for the sake of its renown, just so i can retain word for word the entire clagane oberyn battle.

fuck what they say
asoiaf is gold

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:28:29 2015 No.6718601 >>6718585 So, what you're saying is, you're an escapist basement dweller pleb? Thanks for the heads-up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:31:08 2015 No.6718611 >>6718585 The song of the escapist basement dweller

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:32:27 2015 No.6718615 >>6718558 None of /lit/'s favorite books are about this. Checkmate Christians.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:37:28 2015 No.6718626 >>6718615 Well, to be fair Notes from Underground is kinda about that, minus the window.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:39:00 2015 No.6718631 >>6718626 >Dostoevsky

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:39:18 2015 No.6718633 >>6718615 ... Ortho Stice sticking at the window maybe? Nah, I got nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:39:37 2015 No.6718636 >>6718631 Yes, and?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:41:58 2015 No.6718643 >>6715705 I like him. /lit/ is just mad because in secret they're insecure hipsters who inanely talk about classics because they think it makes them cool.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:45:22 2015 No.6718654

>>6718643
What.
There's literally nothing "cool" about classics. Cool people talk about Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey. (or, in fact, about the last soccer match or how much they drank last night)
We talk about classics because it makes us seem cultured and intellectual and vaguely Bildungsbürgertum.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:24:28 2015 No.6719111 >>6716218 Sometimes I think I'm the only person that read asoiaf after the series came out but had never watched a single episode of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:40:38 2015 No.6719200 >>6718558 Rothfuss pls, you still write like le supreme gentleman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:17:49 2015 No.6719391 >>6718654 Come off it man, we both know you and I don't care about that definition of cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:19:33 2015 No.6719395 >>6719391 Then let's use another word instead, I just don't find "cool" very fitting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:29:42 2015 No.6719419 >>6718585 that's some quality bait right there

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:32:28 2015 No.6719428 The consensus is generally this: >Average people are retarded (by /lit/ standards) >The majority is average (statistically defined) >Retarded people like retarded things >Majority likes these books >Ergo these books are retarded >QED Any questions?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:39:39 2015 No.6719462 >>6719395 You sayin' you're a hep-cat daddy-o? Yowie Zowie Boom-Boom-POW, brother I'd hate to be a square today. Do you dig me cousin? Are we Copacetic?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:42:54 2015 No.6719474 >>6719462 /lit/ is one hell of a drug, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 17:15:30 2015 No.6719782 >>6716718 >like I said in another thread, he's not the American Tolkien, not even close, but he created quality low culture. Who is the American Tolkien? Robert Jordan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 17:17:33 2015 No.6719790 >>6719782 There's no American Tolkien

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 17:25:20 2015 No.6719815 >>6719782 but wouldn't the american Tolkien create low culture and be obese?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 17:28:18 2015 No.6719832 >>6719815 That's already what Martin is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 17:29:00 2015 No.6719838 >>6715715 dat bad pussy tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 18:20:43 2015 No.6720013 Actually, we don't hate him http://strawpoll.me/4524768/r

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:08:15 2015 No.6721274 >>6715705 >Why does /lit/ hate him and his books so much? He's successful, they are not. Simply human envy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:14:42 2015 No.6721294 >>6715705 Because he's fat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:15:43 2015 No.6721297 >>6720013 that poll was not presented to /lit/ >>6721274 >You guys hate Justin because he's popular! I know you're memeing but could you try to do it a little better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:17:03 2015 No.6721302 >>6721297 >>You guys hate Justin because he's popular! But that's also true

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:41:50 2015 No.6721382 >>6715705 /lit/ is crawling with self-ingratiating, elitist scum. Some are authors, the rest are pussies too afraid to write, so they self-identify as readers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:44:23 2015 No.6721395 >>6715705 Bad and popular

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:46:59 2015 No.6721407 >>6715705 Because like all other greedy fat fantasy writing cunts he is going to die before finishing his series

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:47:56 2015 No.6721409
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>>6716115
>>6716111
>>6716096
>>6716080
>>6715973
>>6715930
>>6715916
>>6716234
>>6716244
>>6716264
>>6716277
>all these summerfags
I'm not even gonna bother continuing down the thread. It's too bad though because /lit/ used to generally be well-insulated from the summer infestations. Hopefully this means more people are starting to read again, even if they're reading shitty literature. Everyone has to start somewhere, maybe some of these kids will pick up a more stimulating book, actually appreciate it and thirst for more, and we'll get some better discussions by the end of summer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:47:59 2015 No.6721411 I think he's great at creating characters and storylines. His writing ranges from pretty good to horrible. His books are better than the TV show adaptation as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 00:57:50 2015 No.6721450 >>6715705 i hate his books because i'm vegan and the part he focuses on the most is describing all that disgusting food.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 02:44:27 2015 No.6721716 But i don't hate him op. I'm not that big of an edgy prick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 02:48:15 2015 No.6721727 They're shit books. Fantasy novels in 2015 are garbage. A guy typing a story about Flippy Flooby the dragon and his magic sword wizard pal Galactinoxxor-quack on an ultra modern Apple laptop somehow feels a little stupid. It's really just terrible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 02:50:51 2015 No.6721734 >Her cunt became the world.

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 03:06:41 2015 No.6721775
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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 03:29:19 2015 No.6721853 so whats going to happen if he dies before he finishes the story? Whats going to happen to his fanbase?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 08:37:16 2015 No.6722686 >>6719419 it's not bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 08:50:39 2015 No.6722731 >>6721853 he will become the next kafka

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 09:11:55 2015 No.6722799 >>6716237 I trust /tg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 09:13:31 2015 No.6722805 >>6716734 Gormenghast, Book of the New Sun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 09:31:06 2015 No.6722879 File: 353 KB, 1019x918, art.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715705 because it's overwritten, edgy garbage with unreadable prose also >genre fiction

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 09:37:54 2015 No.6722902 He's popular and entertaining. That ticks off most pseudo-intellectual 18-year-olds here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 09:39:28 2015 No.6722907 File: 11 KB, 204x300, th9ECO236R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6722902 smh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:48:26 2015 No.6725571 >>6715705 /lit/ didn't hate him until Game of Thrones became the biggest thing on tv and people actually started reading his books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:50:35 2015 No.6725579 >>6715705 Fat people who consume sugary drinks are disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:55:20 2015 No.6725602 So many edgy pseudo intellectuals in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:59:03 2015 No.6725616 >>6722879 goddamnit fucking pynchon i 100% bought it. but honestly im not a fan of this passage even though i would eat shit daily to write half as well as him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:04:40 2015 No.6725645 >>6725571 This.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:05:30 2015 No.6725649 >>6725645 uh no

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:16:59 2015 No.6725694

>>6725649
Uh, yeah. Even though I hated AFFC and ADWD, I'm still not going to pretend all his books are utter garbage now that the "normies" are enjoying them. There's plenty to say about them, sure, and there was plenty to say about them five years ago, but this wave of hate for the guy's work only ever started when the show began attracting people to read them. But when it comes to /lit/, you can't enjoy something the 'plebs' enjoy, good heavens, no!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:56:02 2015 No.6725826 Fevre Dream > ASOIAF he managed to make a story about vampires not completely fucking stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:38:54 2015 No.6725947 >>6725826 thanks for that, will probably read it next. I just read Vampire$. Pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 05:31:43 2015 No.6726597 >>6715930 this

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 05:42:03 2015 No.6726634

>>6715705
I don't hate him. In fact, I quite enjoy his books, but they are just written so clumsily sometimes. I feel he focuses on uninteresting things in his descriptions which makes reading his books a bit tedious. When you stumble upon good parts, though, they're really good.
In other words, he's okay, but I know better fantasy authors that aren't nearly as popular as him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 07:24:51 2015 No.6726915 >>6721853 Isn't it over already?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:32:33 2015 No.6727583 File: 775 KB, 1011x1362, 1433951711763.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Life's too short to read too much pulp fiction

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:41:28 2015 No.6727603 >>6727583 This. So much this. We aren't immortal people...yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:45:18 2015 No.6727615 File: 2 KB, 636x574, 1414130387994.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6727583 >Penguin versions of Chaucer and Langland

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:47:59 2015 No.6727623 >>6727583 why not read both?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:50:47 2015 No.6727631 >>6727583 >You must at all times act like a little self improvement robot You know who agrees with this? Timothy Ferris, author of the 4 hour work week and 24/7 cuck.

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:54:03 2015 No.6727638

>>6727583
hu-hey there boys and ghouls, do YOU want to suck all the fun out of reading so you can have a knowledge of books that wont help you out anywhere in life and simply isolate yourself and draw you closer to suicide? WELL NOW YOU CAN BY FOLLOWING MY SWEET SWEET CHART

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:55:15 2015 No.6727642 >>6727638 Leave George, your books are shite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:55:15 2015 No.6727643 >>6727583 >posts this horseshit about saving time >while posting on a tiwanese ass-spanking board k

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 11:55:41 2015 No.6727647 >>6727638 >only dumb things are fun >>>/tv/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:01:14 2015 No.6727669 >>6727638 >implying GOT will help you in any way If you're going to read for pleasure, at least make it something worth while…

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:02:37 2015 No.6727676 >>6727647 Only dumb people are able to experience fun. This is why I'm superior. I'm euphoric. I analyse the world around me and create knowledge all the time. Everyone else deserves to be laughed at.

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:12:23 2015 No.6727705

>>6727676
Typical dumb person. Not being able to enjoy something your immediate defence mechanism is 'those other people must not be genuinely enjoying it either, they must be faking it, because certainly they can't be genuinely enjoying something I fail to enjoy'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:13:55 2015 No.6727710 Because most of /lit/ are posturing hipsters whose egos are as fragile as glass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:15:36 2015 No.6727718 >>6715705 he is popular

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:19:39 2015 No.6727736 >>6727710 >using the word hipster unironically nice 2010 meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:19:43 2015 No.6727737 >>6727705 Typical dumb person. Enjoying something is your immediate defence mechanism from reality 'my life so much better now that I can finally relax in this little personal utopia of mine'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:21:54 2015 No.6727748 >>6727737 P. s. Btw did you not get the fact that I was joking? I even used words such as superior, euphoric and analyse...

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:27:13 2015 No.6727763

>>6727737
>>6727748
I did, you were mocking people who enjoy something generally considered more 'hard' to read as if they do it to cultivate a sense of superiority rather than out of sheer enjoyment.

This is how plebs always act. They look at someone drinking wine and think "lol fucken tryhard trying to be classy, secretly he wants to drink mountain dew just like me".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:28:38 2015 No.6727769 >>6725947 Most of his short fiction is pretty good. Pick up the two "Dreamsongs" collections for a good sampling. I also recommend a collaboration he did with two other authors, "Hunter's Run," which was also very good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:30:27 2015 No.6727775 >>6727736 You sound like an insecure hipster tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:32:10 2015 No.6727781 >>6727775 what's a hipster?

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:32:31 2015 No.6727782

I don't hate the guy, i just think he has been over hyped. his books are good, but they aren't great. he takes a too long to release his books and most of people saying his book is the best thing since sliced bread are the ones who wanted to jump on a pseudo intellectual bandwagon to those that just watch the show and most of the people saying its shit are the hipster kids trying to be different and non mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 12:48:43 2015 No.6727847 File: 189 KB, 800x600, da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6727583 life is too short to read philosophy and outdated texts

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:14:10 2015 No.6727918

>>6715705

I remember before it was a TV show it was this awesome cult classic /lit/ always recommended as true patrician fantasy ... Basically it's too popular now and avid readers usually want to distinguish themselves from mainstream readers, so bringing up GRRM is a bad social move in that regard. In addition, /lit/ enjoys putting themselves above other people, so of course something widely read/watched sucks.

Imo, he's awesome. Admittedly his two last books have been ridiculously badly paced (the TV show that elegantly covered them both in about a single season Q.E.D-ed that excellently), but even writers are human.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:40:02 2015 No.6727981 >>6727847 What do you suggest doing instead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:49:17 2015 No.6728001 File: 14 KB, 236x314, daw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6727981 sex, science, and snowboarding

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:51:12 2015 No.6728007 >>6727781 a fauxhemian

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:54:12 2015 No.6728018 >>6728001 One day you'll grow out of sex and snowboarding, then what's left? >not wanting to reach a state of euphoric bliss through a range of drug cocktails

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 13:57:36 2015 No.6728028 File: 67 KB, 450x248, 56.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6728018 science, salsa, and shrek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:27:09 2015 No.6728124 >>6718654 jesus fuck, just how sheltered are you boy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:31:22 2015 No.6728135 >>6716881 And of course the mouth breathing retard that thinks a book can be good but have shitty writing is an attention whore namefag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:31:23 2015 No.6728137 >>6728028 epic maymays friend please post more thank you and come again

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:32:36 2015 No.6728139 File: 281 KB, 965x947, goodbook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6728137

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:37:15 2015 No.6728151 >>6728135 and of course this new guy desperately trying to fit it while cussing like a teenager thinking he is somehow posting anything of worth. see you back in 3 months /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:37:37 2015 No.6728152 >>6719832 only an american wouldn't get that joke Martin is for what it's worth the American Tolkien. The 'American Tolkien' wouldn't just write LOTR but be born in America, it'd be written like an American would write.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 14:38:46 2015 No.6728154 >>6728151 >an anon defending a name fag So reddit is down I guess, huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 15:02:29 2015 No.6728234 >>6728154 mate how do you not fathom you just proved my point

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