>tfw you realize that Nietzsche was right

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Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:42:33 2015 No.6715591 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw you realize that Nietzsche was right

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:44:19 2015 No.6715600 *Schopenhauer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:46:19 2015 No.6715610 File: 563 KB, 167x200, 200.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715591 >mfw you think Nietzsche was right

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:46:50 2015 No.6715616 >>6715591 How's highschool, OP?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:47:59 2015 No.6715623 Nobody is right tbh. Everybody is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:48:37 2015 No.6715627 File: 93 KB, 448x600, Pirlo-wine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw you realize schopenhauer was right

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:49:41 2015 No.6715630 File: 120 KB, 356x333, 1410382205644.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you realize Nietzsche only wrote what he did to try and convince himself not to commit suicide

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:51:47 2015 No.6715641 >>6715630 yfw you realize his mental breakdown signified an acknowledgement of this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:52:16 2015 No.6715644 >>6715591 Nietzsche wouldn't want you to be weighed down by the spirit of gravity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:53:54 2015 No.6715654 >>6715641 He was going to write a book called The Myth of Syphilisus where he'd ask us to imagine a happy syphilitic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:54:41 2015 No.6715657 File: 882 KB, 900x2000, 1430270938774.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anon, that's the face you make when you realize Schopenhauer was right. Pic related is the face you make when you believe Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:57:00 2015 No.6715665 >>6715630 Nah, he sacraficed himself for what he thought was his calling. He knew what he was getting into

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:57:04 2015 No.6715666 >>6715657 It's backwards, because Nietzsche makes you struggle with whatever social created problem you have, while Schopenhauer makes you dismiss it altogether Schopenhauer makes you smug

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 18:59:42 2015 No.6715674 >>6715666 Schopenhauer himself dismissed it, but I don't think his philosophy would lead one to follow his example. Ultimately, Schopenhauer held a distaste for life, while Nietzsche actually wasn't against the enjoyment thereof.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:01:32 2015 No.6715681

>yfw you realize Nietzsche was just a closet Catholic
>he fetishized Catholicism (and to a lesser extent totalitarian Islam) as a way to struggle against his protestant father(land)
>Nietzsche's whole shit is just a weak oedipal struggle

I want to like Nietzsche but he contradicts himself all the time and a lot of his shit is stupid

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:07:22 2015 No.6715703 >>6715681 >I want to like Nietzsche but he contradicts himself all the time and a lot of his shit is stupid N's style works beautifully as a pleb-filter. As seen above

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:09:43 2015 No.6715714 >>6715681 All atheist thinkers are just attempting literary parricide.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:10:00 2015 No.6715717 this tbh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:10:24 2015 No.6715722 >>6715674 A small distaste of life is necessary to live a life without fear The only way to don't despair in life about life itself is to feel it vain in the end

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:12:06 2015 No.6715733

>>6715703
Nietzsche is like all the post-modern fuckwits that followed him in the 20th century, but since he wasn't French it was harder for him to disguise his lack of consistency in impenetrable and muddy prose. Gotta give him credit for getting in early though, he was a head of his time like a mother fucker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:13:01 2015 No.6715742 >>6715733 that's nice anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:15:58 2015 No.6715755 Daily reminder that Schopenhauer is a meme.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:16:03 2015 No.6715756

>>6715742
if i sound flustered it's because i really liked nietzsche but the more of him you read the more you realize the shit he says could easily contradict a bunch of shit he said before...now for entry level plebs who only read Zarathustra and consider themselves patrishe, well, carry on...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:25:17 2015 No.6715795 File: 84 KB, 960x643, brain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715681 >>6715756 Can someone list examples of contradictions? I've only read Wittgenstein in full, not more prose-type philosophers.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:35:19 2015 No.6715841

>>6715795
There's like one every other page in Zarathustra.

Which is sort of the point. Constant self-overcoming. Constant reevaluations of values.

One of his followers asks him why the fuck Zarathustra contradicts himself and why he said X yesterday but says Y today.

Zarathustra just says I don't gotta explain shit. Why do you need reasons to have the claims become truth and values to you?

Nietzsche places claims beyond our current values and truths in the hopes that they might engender some affective intensity needed to make the bridge to it. But its a bridge to a truth or a value that has to be built by ourselves.

Truth isn't something perceived immaculately as it really is and then accepted. It's a creation of a striving, willing, loving towards creating and esteeming.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 04:24:19 2015 No.6717478 >>6715795 >slave morality is the inverted will to power >master morality is also the inverted will to power

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 04:30:33 2015 No.6717492

Why would that make you feel sad. The death of truth with a fixed capital T gives you the freedom to think and do for yourself.

I personally think Nietzsche's philosophy is the most positive, optimistic philosophy there is. It certainly is most optimistic then the nihilistic doctrines of Plato, Aristotle and Jesus

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 04:35:46 2015 No.6717504 >>6715795 Just when I thought Tao Lin couldn't sink any lower.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 05:35:43 2015 No.6717628 >>6715591 only dan bilzerian is right

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 05:44:13 2015 No.6717641
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>>6717628
Dan Bilzerian is interesting as a kind of Impossible Figure. Here is a man that is handsome, have money, is shallow - like capitalism says one should be - and has lots of bitches. How happy is Dan Bilzerian? Pretty happy. Does DB confirm the capitalist narrative?

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 08:50:08 2015 No.6717983

>>6717492
>I personally think Nietzsche's philosophy is the most positive, optimistic philosophy there is. It certainly is most optimistic then the nihilistic doctrines of Plato, Aristotle and Jesus
Yeah, and that's why he went insane when he saw a horse getting whipped.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:01:23 2015 No.6718003

For they have said, reasoning with themselves, but not right: The time of our life is short and tedious, and in the end of a man there is no remedy, and no man hath been known to have returned from hell: For we are born of nothing, and after this we shall be as if we had not been: for the breath in our nostrils is smoke: and speech a spark to move our heart, Which being put out, our body shall be ashes, and our spirit shall be poured abroad as soft air, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, which is driven away by the beams of the sun, and overpowered with the heat thereof: And our name in time shall be forgotten, and no man shall have any remembrance of our works. For our time is as the passing of a shadow, and there is no going back of our end: for it is fast sealed, and no man returneth.

Come therefore, and let us enjoy the good things that are present, and let us speedily use the creatures as in youth. Let us fill ourselves with costly wine, and ointments: and let not the flower of the time pass by us. Let us crown ourselves with roses, before they be withered: let no meadow escape our riot. Let none of us go without his part in luxury: let us everywhere leave tokens of joy: for this is our portion, and this our lot. Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged.

But let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. He is become a censurer of our thoughts. He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men' s, and his ways are very different.

We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words.

These things they thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them. And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls. For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him. But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world: And they follow him that are of his side.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:03:48 2015 No.6718008

>>6717492
>I personally think Nietzsche's philosophy is the most positive, optimistic philosophy there is.

I remember one of the high school shooters when he was going around murdering his fellow students would look into their eyes to determine whether or not they "deserved to live". He believed he was fulfilling some kind of Darwinian law by selecting only those who will
"fit to survive". And so based on how the terrified students would react to his pointing a gun at them he would decide whether or not to slaughter them.

Nietzsche's "optimistic" philosophy practically champions this boy as an Overman who had the will to power enough to create his own moral law.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:05:30 2015 No.6718013

>>6718008
>>6717492
cont.

>The death of truth with a fixed capital T gives you the freedom to think and do for yourself.

And for a sentimental liberal pansy such as I suppose you are, being able to think and do for yourself probably means getting to choose what films you watch and what people you have sex with. But having the freedom to think and do for yourself also means giving the right to all the world's murderers, thieves, rapists, etc. You are literally acquitting murderers and rapists of all guilt with your "optimistic" philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:06:45 2015 No.6718018 >>6717983 BRAIN CANCER R A I N C A N C E R

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:08:49 2015 No.6718026 >>6718013 And as another anon has pointed out, it's very ironic that Nietzsche himself, who said that all higher culture is based on the sublimation of cruelty, broke down into pieces at the sight of a man being cruel to a horse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:39:06 2015 No.6718100 life is impossible

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:41:30 2015 No.6718108 >>6718026 something being true doesn't mean that knowing it will make you better off nietzsche decided to gain more insight than he could handle

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 09:59:44 2015 No.6718152 File: 289 KB, 2500x1693, 141110-abe-xi-4a_507ba56cb9733b480f0c864fc753b9c8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dfw you realize the Overman and the Knight of Faith are the same fucking thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:24:36 2015 No.6718235 >>6715654 Underrated post.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:29:00 2015 No.6718252

fact: the type most adjusted for life is one like the guard from checkhov's ward no. 6

>The porter, Nikita, an old soldier wearing rusty good-conduct stripes, is always lying on the litter with a pipe between his teeth. He has a grim, surly, battered-looking face, overhanging eyebrows which give him the expression of a sheep-dog of the steppes, and a red nose; he is short and looks thin and scraggy, but he is of imposing deportment and his fists are vigorous. He belongs to the class of simple-hearted, practical, and dull-witted people, prompt in carrying out orders, who like discipline better than anything in the world, and so are convinced that it is their duty to beat people. He showers blows on the face, on the chest, on the back, on whatever comes first, and is convinced that there would be no order in the place if he did not.

the reason nietzsche couldn't handle his own findings was that he wasn't an idiot

>>	Musil Sun Jun 21 10:32:01 2015 No.6718260 File: 220 KB, 615x671, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6718108 You seem to have played too much of this recently

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:33:42 2015 No.6718264 >>6718260 not sure what you're referencing it's a picture of a monster from a video game?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:34:01 2015 No.6718265 >>6718252 Nietzsche couldn't handle his own findings because untreated syphilis turned his brain to fucking pudding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:34:41 2015 No.6718268 File: 257 KB, 415x476, 1431593703357.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you realize that Jesus was right

>>	Musil Sun Jun 21 10:39:06 2015 No.6718283 >>6718264 Yep, Bloodborne... it has some kind of lovecraftian themes of going insane by making contact with higher knowledge and beings

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:07:06 2015 No.6718548

>>6718003

Catholic Nihilism spoted

>>6718008

This is stupid and the no1 misunderstanding of Nietzsche, the Overman is not simply some psychotic dude that makes everyone submit to him. That's just Machiavelli's Prince. the Overman follows the Dyonisian principles of life affirmation, he creates value not by abritrarily imposing it , but by creating the conditions in which his thought can be aplied, in other words the Overman can only be some sort of Philosopher or Artist, someone who masters not only himself but also the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:41:40 2015 No.6718641 >>6718265 >untreated syphilis brain cancer*

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:47:09 2015 No.6718661 >>6718268 almost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABnznhzdIY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:49:12 2015 No.6718672 Nietzsche threads on /lit/ are always depressing to read with the exception of one or two posts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:57:37 2015 No.6718694 >>6715666 Nietzsche literally praised joyous malevolent smugness as a divine attribute to be celebrated and aspired to. He's the smuggest philosopher.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 12:59:43 2015 No.6718701 >>6717641 He's not handsome and not happy, he relies on constant approval from teenage boys on the internet to maintain his self-esteem. The only people who aspire to be near him are women who are paid by the day in cash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 13:01:09 2015 No.6718707 >>6718268 Except about that whole son of god thing, yeah. Greatest con artist to ever live tbh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 13:14:53 2015 No.6718744 >>6717492 But I don't want to think and do for myself. Everytime I try that shit I fail.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 13:17:17 2015 No.6718759 >>6715591 Yup. So you gonna be a sick cunt, or a sad cunt?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 13:54:09 2015 No.6718928 >>6718744 Fag

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:18:30 2015 No.6719076 >>6715795 Why don't you read him yourself instead of asking some guys on a Laotian sculpture discussion board?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:20:15 2015 No.6719087 >>6717478 How is this a contradiction?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:25:44 2015 No.6719115 >>6719076 Because this is actually an American literature, philosophy, history, and sociology board, where discussion of Nietzsche is always welcome (for better or worse) but seldom productive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:35:21 2015 No.6719177 >>6719115 Which is why I'm asking why he's going to a Nietzsche thread instead of just reading Nietzsche instead. >>6718152 u wot m8 Captcha: burgers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:41:41 2015 No.6719204 >>6718152 They're the absolute opposites of each other

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:43:17 2015 No.6719213 tfw /lit/ thinks philosophy is the study of specific authors who published books with a philosophical theme, the task of philosophy being to understand what x author thought about y issue or how schop would have reacted to z. Fucking idiots.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 14:59:35 2015 No.6719311 >>6719213 Good thing you have transcended us, oh wise God.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:04:05 2015 No.6719333 >>6719311 now suck my thick hard white cock you degenerate fucksleeve, I'll show what a real fucking is all about

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:31:00 2015 No.6719421 >>6719213 because thats exactly what philosophy is and how we study it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 15:32:21 2015 No.6719426 >>6719421 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:46:18 2015 No.6720642 >>6715630 >tfw everyone misinterprets nietzsche >tfw nietzsche is much more consistent and palatable but paradoxically radical than people think >tfw this is right though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:50:38 2015 No.6720653 >>6715681 FUCKING THIS Also: Nietzsche's overman is literally Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:53:30 2015 No.6720663 >>6715654 I love you. Camus was such a fucking faggot holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:54:15 2015 No.6720665 >>6719213 moron

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:55:01 2015 No.6720668 [DELETED]

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>mfw nietzsche was right but he never put his philosophy into practice

why wasn't he an overman? his life, by all accounts was pretty quiet and plebian.
He admired Jesus and Socrates but he never dared do anything non-comformist or excpetional or daring himself. Did he ever re-value HIS own values? I think not

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:57:49 2015 No.6720677 >>6720668 his greatest achievement was losing his virginity to a prostitute. Everything else he did was a footnote to that experience

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:24:20 2015 No.6720767 >>6720668 >why wasn't he an overman? lol he was

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:35:10 2015 No.6722002 >>6717641 He's not happy, he just hasn't realised how desperate he is. I said it, now stop bitching, Kierkegaard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:37:17 2015 No.6722007 >Nietzsche was a guy that made noises with his mouth and wroted a biggy bok bok >he are the right >me have bad feelings Shut up retards. Live your life and fuck philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:43:06 2015 No.6722016 >>6722007 >argument through tone Seriously?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:47:27 2015 No.6722025 >>6722016 >Caring about dumb shit. >Implying Nietzsche talk calls for sophisticated arguments. Nietzsche is mindless entertainment and fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 13:36:15 2015 No.6723730 >>6722025 Wow, an actual philistine. I don't even know what board to direct you to, but I don't know what you're doing on /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:32:48 2015 No.6723914 >>6715591 >tfw you realize that Nietzsche was right Yup, my sister's the ideal woman alright.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:35:40 2015 No.6723925 >>6715630 >tfw crying 'I understand you' and meaning it in the berg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:37:29 2015 No.6723935 File: 36 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715627 >mfw all is suffering

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:39:56 2015 No.6723944 >>6715795 >pic what useless fucking cuck

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:47:16 2015 No.6723977
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>tfw you realize Schopenhauer and Nietzsche were both right

Nietzsche's philosophy is for the young who still have life ahead of them.

Schopenhauer is for the old and elderly who are waiting to die.

Nietzsche says: thrive, conquer, overcome.

Schopenhauer says: endure, renounce, perish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 14:49:12 2015 No.6723982 >>6719333 iced him

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 15:00:52 2015 No.6724016 >>6723977 Fuck off andrew

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 15:03:14 2015 No.6724029 File: 31 KB, 750x422, chi-brady0508-wre0028633630-20150507.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6724016 you mad amigo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 15:12:36 2015 No.6724058 File: 20 KB, 211x213, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6724029 Nope mr. H. Do your thing Make your jams

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 20:29:46 2015 No.6725097 >>6715756 you must pick apart the surface contradictions to arrive at the esoteric truth

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:16:14 2015 No.6725693 >>6715630 >this is what weak little suicidal shits actually believe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 23:27:21 2015 No.6725730 >>6719204 In what way? >inb4 appealing to god is a "big difference"

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 02:25:41 2015 No.6726191
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In the end I would much rather be a Basel professor than God; but I have not dared push my private egoism so far as to desist for its sake from the creation of the world. You see, one must make sacrifices however and wherever one lives.

Kant: or cant as an intelligible character.

Out of life's school of war: What does not destroy me, makes me stronger.

"Evil men have no songs." How is it, then, that the Russians have songs?

By searching out origins, one becomes a crab. The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward.

I mistrust all systematizers and avoid them. The will to a system is a lack of integrity.

What does it matter if I am right? I am much too right. And he who laughs best today will also laugh last.

Socrates was plebeian.

But Socrates guessed even more. He saw through the noble Athenians; he saw that his own case, his idiosyncrasy, was no longer exceptional. The same kind of degeneration was quietly developing everywhere: old Athens was coming to an end. And Socrates understood that the world needed him — his method, his cure, his personal artifice of self-preservation.

Witness modern marriage. All rationality has clearly vanished from modern marriage; yet that is no objection to marriage, but to modernity.

Thus, the philosopher dislikes marriage as well as what might persuade him into it: marriage is a barrier and a disaster along his route to the optimal. What great philosopher up to now has been married? Heraclitus, Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer: none of these got married. What's more, we cannot even imagine them married. A married philosopher belongs in a comedy, that`s my principle. And Socrates, the exception, the malicious Socrates, it appears, got married ironically to demonstrate this very principle.

The irreverent idea that the great sages are types of decline first occurred to me precisely in a case where it is most strongly opposed by both scholarly and unscholarly prejudice: I realized that Socrates and Plato were symptoms of degeneration, tools of the Greek dissolution, pseudo-Greek, anti-Greek (Birth of Tragedy, 1872).

But even when the moralist addresses himself only to the single human being and says to him, "You ought to be such and such!" he does not cease to make himself ridiculous.

Nothing seems rarer to me today than genuine hypocrisy.

My revalued reason says: when a people degenerates physiologically, when it approaches destruction, then the result is license and luxury (that is, the craving for ever stronger and more frequent stimulation necessary to arouse an exhausted nature).

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 02:26:41 2015 No.6726193

But as the youths to be educated were brought up competing with one another, their educators in their turn were in rivalry with each other. Full of mistrust and jealousy, the great music masters Pindar and Simonides took their places next to each other; the sophist, the advanced teacher of antiquity, met his fellow sophist in contest; even the most general way of teaching, through drama, was only brought to the people in the form of an immense struggle of great musicians and dramatists. How wonderful! ‘Even the artist has a grudge against the artist!’. And modern man fears nothing so much in an artist as personal belligerence, whilst the Greek knows the artist only in personal struggle. Where modern man senses the weakness of a work of art, there the Hellene looks for the source of its greatest strength! What, for example, is of particular artistic importance in Plato’s dialogues is mostly the result of a competition with the art of the orators, the sophists, the dramatists of his time, invented for the purpose of his finally being able to say: ‘Look: I, too, can do what my great rivals can do; yes, I can do it better than them. No Protagoras has written myths as beautiful as mine, no dramatist has written such a lively and fascinating whole as the Symposium, no orator has composed such speeches as I present in the Gorgias – and now I reject all of that and condemn all imitative art! Only the contest made me a poet, sophist and orator!’ What a problem reveals itself to us when we enquire about the relationship of the contest to the conception of the work of art! –

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 02:32:48 2015 No.6726202

How much disgruntled heaviness, lameness, dampness, dressing gown — how much beer there is in the German intelligence! How is it at all possible that young men who dedicate their lives to the most spiritual goals do not feel the first instinct of spirituality, the spirit's instinct of self-preservation — and drink beer? The alcoholism of young scholars is perhaps no question mark concerning their scholarliness — without spirit one can still be a great scholar — but in every other respect it remains a problem. Where would one not find the gentle degeneration which beer produces in the spirit? Once, in a case that has almost become famous, I put my finger on such a degeneration — the degeneration of our number-one German free spirit, the clever David Strauss, into the author of a beer-bench gospel and "new faith." It was not for nothing that he had made his vow to the "fair brunette" [dark beer] in verse — loyalty unto death.

From Nietzsche's wiki: Perhaps under Ortlepp's influence, [Nietzsche] and a student named Richter returned to school drunk and encountered a teacher, resulting in Nietzsche's demotion from first in his class and the end of his status as a prefect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:59:36 2015 No.6726381 >>6715756 Yeah, that's pretty much true. "Oh no, I have to use my mind extensively!" Don't be such a baby.

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:17:38 2015 No.6726410
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>>6720668
He obliterated his self-esteem through his own philosophy, much like Kierkefag. Philosophy often likes to forget about its area of competence, probably due to all of the .. enlightenment.

Speaking of entitlement, if you ever run into this sort of problem when chasing ideals or making "rational" life decisions, consider le drawing man as a foundation instead, then branch off into whatever other questions there are on your mind (and rest assured, Stirner doesn't answer all of them). I recommend empiricism and a whole lot of sex so you get over Nichi Vici.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:20:44 2015 No.6726417 >>6726191 >>6726193 >>6726202 congratulations on owning the Portable Neech pls die now and/or read a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:23:11 2015 No.6726423 File: 7 KB, 266x239, 1416186243513.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726417 hehee trick'd >>6726410 eh who is you thinking of talking about then even?

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:32:13 2015 No.6726440

>>6715841
He loves short lived habits, it was never about a consistent way of life that can be up and replicated for all like stoicism, so all charges of inconsistency or contradictions fail. i.e. If you a looking for a clear, traditional, logically dependant moral code don't go to Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:34:55 2015 No.6726446 >>6726423 I'm talking about people who realize the inherent infantilism in having role models of any kind, kind of like posting some eager to disagree meme Kant who's just waiting to prove me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:39:02 2015 No.6726454 File: 35 KB, 320x533, 1433951703890.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726446 Cool for you!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:41:41 2015 No.6726460 File: 155 KB, 1024x724, vi-vim-cheat-sheet.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726454 Fuck the rules to you too, eager to disagree yet oddly passive aggressive even for lit standards gentleman sir

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:44:11 2015 No.6726470
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>>6726460
i think if either of us relented and stopped being a standoffish prick, we'd get along

but fuck that, and fuck you, right up the ass, you stupid nigger fuck bitch.

pic related, le psychological warfare :---)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:48:17 2015 No.6726483 File: 157 KB, 672x373, 10919054_394158990762130_5238225577454730366_n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726470 I'm a shemale porn addict, your ass has no power here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:54:01 2015 No.6726498 File: 2.28 MB, 625x352, DFwNOR8.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726483 Daaamn, well you can use le imagination, right? I mean, isn't the point of shemales that they're girls with dicks? Or does the masculine body shape get you off too?

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:56:12 2015 No.6726502 [DELETED]

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>>6726410
> I recommend empiricism and a whole lot of sex so you get over Nichi Vici.

I've been mixing Stirner with meditation on emptiness and they've helped me bust a lot of ghosts and made me aware that I'm the Unique One...some sex would be great though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:57:43 2015 No.6726506 >>6717492 How was Jesus nihilistic? Pls elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:57:53 2015 No.6726507 >>6726502 you should deontologize yourself openly in this thread. it would be very fascinating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:58:53 2015 No.6726512 >>6726506 Try studying philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 10:22:41 2015 No.6727404 File: 120 KB, 850x400, 1411236964833.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not familiar with Schopenhauer, which book(s) should I read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 16:15:18 2015 No.6728503 >>6727404 bumb, so no need for another thread regards, another anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 17:22:19 2015 No.6728751 >>6718744 git gud

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 19:33:30 2015 No.6729205 >>6727404 The world as will and representation

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 21:19:06 2015 No.6729641

>>6715733

TBF, you need to realize that Nietzsche is more like a 'god' or some kind of religious figure rather than a philosopher.

Nietzsche's soul is active in the world, and it has one goal:

To tyrannize and parasitize as many humans as possible and, finally, to consume the universe itself. To that extent he needs to break down peoples' logical faculty, and to disturb them emotionally. This is why his later works contain so many edgy statements and contrarianism: he needs to assault the reader and cause a case of PTSD so he can worm his way in.

Once inside the affected organism, Nietzsche begins consuming more and more of his mental life until finally there is nothing left remaining and the person's own soul has been replaced by that of Nietzsche. The person then becomes a full time propagandist for Nietzsche and shares his work with other people, allowing the process to continue and spread.

Eventually, assuming I conquer enough humans, and assuming that humans develop technology capable of devouring stars and other such things, I will finally conquer the entire universe. Then, and ONLY then, will the human race be able to die spectacularly and go to hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 21:36:19 2015 No.6729734 >>6729641 >he needs to assault the reader and cause a case of PTSD Hahaha, Like Nigga How Can Reading-Induced PTSD Even Be Real, Like Just Close The Book Nigga Hahaha >and go to hell. You might have had something to say, but you blew it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 21:57:00 2015 No.6729825 >>6718252 Even though I don't agree with you >quoting Chekhov my man

>>	Anonymoose Wed Jun 24 11:11:46 2015 No.6731773 File: 347 KB, 600x788, diggitydank.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone else collect Dank Memes out of an Anthropological interest?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 13:12:17 2015 No.6732138 >>6717504 I kek'd

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 15:52:45 2015 No.6732627 File: 347 KB, 991x1287, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6729641 >TBF >Christposting >pretending Nietzsche was trying to gain a mindless following 5/10 bait could be better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 17:07:08 2015 No.6732817 File: 153 KB, 512x512, 1425928715847.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you realize Nietzsche was left

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 17:55:01 2015 No.6732985 File: 20 KB, 360x284, dubs..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you realize that Engels was right

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 18:02:02 2015 No.6733013 >>6715591 That's pretty much the opposite of the correct fw you realize that Nietzsche was right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 18:05:26 2015 No.6733028 >>6719213 This. Philosophy isn't some kind of shitty historical psychology.

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