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6711887 No.6711887 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys say when you meet these people (who seem to be in the majority) who think rapping is a proper substitute for poetry, that comedians are the new cultural critics, that listening to post-rock is the equivalent of listening to classical music, and so on?

It's like they don't realise how, trying to "elevate" popular formats by comparing them to "classical" ones, they always end up devaluing the latter.

>> No.6711913
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1: you assume that we aren't all basement shut-ins and that we actually meet people.

2: rap fans? let them have their illusions. "Bob" knows the world is hard enough without the ability to pretend that things aren't the way they are.

>> No.6711914

>>6711887
Yup, that's what you get when you apply democratic principles to culture -- whereas with the folk art of the past which ran parallel and respective to High Culture, mass-and-midcult seeks to remove all sense of taste, standards, and valuations because every voice is equal. Disgusting.

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>>6711887
>value

>> No.6711948

>>6711914
Not democratic principles, market principles. The former implies the people have some agency in shaping it. You're overestimating how much of what we take as mass culture comes from giving "common people" a say in the arts instead of it just being an industry with a product operating like any other.

>> No.6712046

>>6711948
People do have agency in shaping it, of course people have to make up their minds somehow in a democracy.

>> No.6713506

this kind of thing annoys me more than anything. can't say much that isn't reiterating what you wrote but i'll give you a bump.

>> No.6713509

>>6711887
I don't care because I'm not so desperately insecure that I need to try to prove my superiority to strangers who have the cheek to like different kinds of music than I do.

>> No.6713607

>>6713509
Like always, the prole can only read cultural criticism through the lens of "this guy done think he better than the rest of us!"

And this one actually attempted some psychoanalysis as well. God help us

>> No.6713635

>>6713509
>>6713607
Literally this, go away OP.

>> No.6713642

>>6713635
I wasn't agreeing with that post you dumbass

>> No.6715273

>>6711887
what do you say when your thread crawls down the catalog because nobody cares about your prissy hobbyhorse?