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I usually dismiss gay interpretations of classic lit, but what even is all this?

>> No.6665677

they were out at sea no gay bro

>> No.6665682

>>6665670
What I really dislike about gay interpretations is that at the core they're just Americocentrism dressed up in a new package. For example in much of the world it's normal for male friends to walk together holding hands. There's nothing gay about it. Even in Europe there's some degree of physical contact between members of the same sex. I think the idea that these expressions must be gay is really a modern American invention. 19th Century American culture didn't have that gay panic and really the concept of a ``homosexual'' didn't exist yet. When we read about such activities we need to read them within the context of their time and place.

>> No.6665683

>>6665677
That was the first night though, on land, before they even met Ahab

And then the next night they snuggle and tell stories and Ishmael goes on and on about how nice it is to snuggle in bed with your bro on a cold night

>> No.6665690

>>6665683
yeah but they were thinking about go out to sea bro so it's not gay

>> No.6665701

1) i don't think it was gay back then

2) i don't think people really cared if it was or wasn't gay

sailor lifestyle was different

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>>6665670
We can't judge them, it was a different time.

>> No.6665715

>>6665682
>For example in much of the world it's normal for male friends to walk together holding hands
i doubt this

>> No.6665716

>>6665670
It's not gay if he's from the pacific.

>> No.6665761

>>6665670

Melville wrote a lot of gay books. He himself was a homo.

>> No.6665766

>>6665670

>tfw you will never wake up with Queequeg's incredibly reassuring arm wrapped around you

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>>6665715

>> No.6665839
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Everytime I've posted this image on 4chan today the thread gets deleted. Watch.

>> No.6665854

>>6665839
What am I looking at?

>>6665670
Everyone knows Dorian Grey is the gayest book on earth.

>> No.6665896

>>6665766
>tfw you will never stop using stale, emotionally manipulative memes instead of directly making arguments like an adult

>> No.6665907

>>6665683
>he's mad he doesn't have a bro to snuggle and share a pipe with on a cold Nantucket night

>> No.6665916

>>6665682
>Even in Europe there's some degree of physical contact between members of the same sex
Beyond hugging a very close friend you haven't seen in a while, certainly not in my country.

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>>6665670
just consecrating their friendship before the storm


>>6665839
i'll contribute like i did before

>> No.6666974

>>6665839
ah fuck, I hope it does get deleted

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>>6665766

>> No.6667063

>>6665682
Pretty much this
I see it in all forms
People have trouble with understanding history and context though

>> No.6667085

>>6667063
please give me the historical monograph of men's hand holding and its relation vis-a-vis their sexuality circa 1850s america.