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ITT: the ways in which people on /lit/ misunderstand their own idols which makes you kek

I'll start with two classics
>Stinerists who don't realize certain spooks are necessary
>Zizekists who think ideology is always a bad thing

>> No.6632689

>>6632677
Theres literally nobody here who has anyreading comprehension at all. It doesnt make me jej anymore.

>> No.6632724

I'm not a "zizekist" and I have never actually read Zizek, but admire him and have watched several videos of his lectures and both of his movies.

I had the impression that in pervert's guide to cinema ideology wasn't presented as "always bad", yes, and the same impression in guide to ideology, but I would really like to someone who have read him explain why and how to me.

>> No.6632733

>>6632677
>>6632689
the two smartest people on this board

>>6632724
third smartest

everyone else is dumber than you guys

>> No.6632740

>>6632724
But you don't want to read him, of course

>> No.6632745

>>6632677
I thought that was just people shitposting. Those people don't actually exist, r-right?

>> No.6632775

>>6632677
Spooks are necessary for what? Maintaining society?

When is ideology good? When you don't want to know about it? When you want to be manipulated by it?

>> No.6633537

>>6632677
>>Stinerists who don't realize certain spooks are necessary
Read The Ego again, spookhead :^)

>> No.6633587

Bump. I want someone to rape OP. Thanks

>> No.6633613

>>6632775
Ideology isn't good or bad. It determines what is good or bad.

>> No.6633742

Someone please quote anywhere that Stirner says or implies that spooks are at all necessary or in any way positive.

>> No.6633843

>>6633587
>>6632677
samefag

>> No.6633915

>>6632724
Ideology is unescapable. This is a core psychoanalytic concept. Our very notion of reality is based on the unconscious. Having no unconscious would be an unbearable trauma of the highest degree. The concept is illogical. It is based on Lacan's notion of the Real.

>> No.6633964

>>6632775
Ideology is the cultural social structure. You cant escape it.

>> No.6633977

When Nietzschians ask if ISIS are neo-dionisus ubermensch

>> No.6633991
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6633991

>>6633977
>belieb in godd
>ubermensche
okay beddy

>> No.6635490

>>6632677
>he doesn't realise a 'necessary' spook is a spook
There is no such thing, there is only that which you deem beneficial as a means to yourself as an end in itself. A 'necessary' spook for you may be of zero concern to another, they are not universals.

>> No.6635525

When did Zizek ever say it way a bad thing? from what I understood he mostly just wants people to recognize that they do things for a reason but it doesn't always have to be that way.

>> No.6635800

>>6635525
>reading comprehension