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Does the fact that most great authors are straight cis white men prove that women have been oppressed for years? Most great writers had no formal training, and a woman had all the tools available to write back then as a man did.

>> No.6617636

weren't doctors giving warnings about women having strokes and miscarriages if they did intellectual stuff?

>> No.6617644

>>6617636
They were right!

>> No.6617652

their brain actually overheats if they read that's why they talk so much to cool down the brain

>> No.6617657

>>6617628
>attending seriously to female hysteria
shygd

>> No.6617662

Goddamn, that smirk. I can't take that level of smug.

>> No.6617668

>>6617628
It doesn't prove anything except that men are (generally) better writers than women. This is mostly because men understand suffering, hardship, and the human condition better than women.

>> No.6617669

>>6617628
>most great writers had no formal training

>> No.6617670

what is institutional legitimacy

what is canon-forming

>> No.6617675

plenty of female authors were popular within their lifetimes in the 20th century, but how many are seen as great writers in the 21st?

>> No.6617677

>>6617628
This is the face of the political left

>> No.6617685

>>6617675
Emily Bronte, Pearl S Buck, George Elliot, Elizabeth Barett Browning

>> No.6617689

>>6617685
yeah, a tiny amount when compared to how many women were popular authors in the 1900s

>> No.6617690

>>6617628
I don't disagree that women and men are the same when it comes to literary talent. The problem is publication. Men were published far more than females.

I wouldn't call it oppression, as much as it's publication bias.

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6617693

>crossing out the name

>> No.6617694

>>6617689
What's your point?

>> No.6617695

>>6617628
Well, the fact doesn't mean anything. They were.

The brain is a strange thing. We're the lucky genetic mesh, but it's all a mess.

Genetic engineering. Brave New World.

>> No.6617697

>>6617628
I can't tell if she purposely picked a terrible book to encourage people not to read it or she liked it and thought it would be an actual challenge not to read american gods.
sandman is way better a work and even that would be no challenge at all
just saying

>> No.6617699

>>6617694
my point is that a large amount of popular authors have been female but a tiny amount of great authors are female, therefore 'the fact that most great authors are straight cis white men' does not prove that 'women have been oppressed for years'

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>>6617628
>straight

>> No.6617732

>>6617668
You're a fucking idiot.

>> No.6617733

>>6617628
Just enjoy the literature and stop reacting to that
female bullshit.

>> No.6617738

>>6617628
No, it proves that you are faggot with insecurities if take into consideration opinions of women like that one in the picture.

>> No.6617745

>>6617685
>Pearl S Buck

midcult trash

>> No.6617748

>>6617695
>They were.
not true, men and women just had different roles historically, men had greater rights but equally great responsibilities

>> No.6617761

>>6617699
Ah

>>6617745
The Good Earth was a solid 9/10

>> No.6617764

Here's my 100% objective evidence-based theory

>most great writers have suffered depression of some kind
>men are far more likely to suffer from depression ( I would go as far to say that almost every man is at least mildly depressed )
>writing is a means to purge oneself of depression; it is a necessity
>Great female writers: Virginia Woolf: Drowned Herself; Sylvia Plath: cooked herself; Emily Dickinson; reclusive NEET

Conclusion: Men write better because deprashun

>> No.6617771

>>6617764
>I would go as far to say that almost every man is at least mildly depressed
Too far, but it is true that a lot of people who have depression don't even know they have it.

>> No.6617772

>>6617748
Regards "greater responsibility" I'll say this: earlier society, especially as we engaged in war, had a need to preserve roles. States did the best they could because they were operating in a vacuum.

Only recently, with the development proper technologies and social process, have we been able to comport ourselves in such a way that women might assume greater roles. But we should allow that.

As for the "psychosocial woman". Well, I refer back to the original post I made.

>> No.6617790

>>6617628
Of course she likes Dr. Who

Whoovians are worse than bronies

>> No.6617817

Coming from the perspective of an unatractive latino, I consider all this "dead white men" stuff racist and misunderstanding the point of literature. Or art in general.

Just stop listening to them. They don't affect your favourite literature.

>> No.6617827

>>6617628

>liking Dr Who
>thinking she has the capacity to know the first thing about literature

The entitlement.

>> No.6617832

>>6617817
I'm sure you're very attractive!

>> No.6617833
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6617833

While there aren't very many good female authors, the very best ones are actually really good

though the only good female I've read of the 20th century was Marg Young, and Woolf was alright too I guess (but clearly leagues behind her male contemporaries, unless you count the bloomsb group which was a group of driveling retards and in which case she was the best of her contemps)

tons of great gay writers, but most of them being writers who had talent removed from their homosexual messages

tons of good asian authors, and many from south america

none by african americans though or transexuals

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>>6617662
can you take this?

>> No.6617867

>>6617832
No i'm not. But who cares, relationships are boring.

>> No.6617916

>>6617764
>tfw no Emliy Dickinson gf to have nice anal sex with

>>6617867
Do you have a latin lover moustasche?

>> No.6617966

>>6617916
He does, but he doesn't know how to use it

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6617967

>>6617662

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>>6617967
I can top Maher on the smugometer.

>> No.6618001

>>6617833
Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe is pretty good.

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6618005

>>6617967
>>6617983
Basic.

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>>6618005

>> No.6618024

>>6617668
Lol Tell that shit to a single mom or a black woman during the Jim Crow era. Not that I expect anything better from 4chan but this is some retarded shit.

>> No.6618035

>>6617764
Actually if you go by statistics, women are way more likely to be depressed than men. Why do you think ads for antidepressants always feature a woman as the patient?

>> No.6618048

>>6618001
That's just African, not African American.

>> No.6618079

>>6618024
experiencing suffering is different from understanding it and then translating it into a form meaningful for others. Otherwise Rwanda would be the world's literary hotspot.

>> No.6618080

>>6618024
As someone who was raised by a single mom, she was pretty dense

>> No.6618090

>>6617628
What does the straight and white part have to do with women?

I certainly wouldn't consider a bisexual black man to be a woman.

>> No.6618094

>>6618035
what statistics?

Men are much more likely to kill themselves;
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/subnational-health4/suicides-in-the-united-kingdom/2013-registrations/suicides-in-the-united-kingdom--2013-registrations.html

That's just one example but it tends to be the situation in most developed countries

>> No.6618125

Science proved men to be more extreme in IQ. There are more male geniuses, but there are more male idiots. Women tend to be just average.