Since nobody else is posting it

[Anonymous No.6609199]

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/feb/05/finnegans-wake-china-james-joyce-hit?CMP=share_btn_twc

I think the literary Anglosphere just got btfo. How does that make you feel, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.6609232]

>>6609199
How did they translate it with any accuracy? I hope what so many Chinese are reading at least carries some of the same spirit as the English.

[Anonymous No.6609283]

>>6609199
Impressed

[Anonymous No.6609320]

>>6609199
This has been posted multiple times for the last 2 years. Where have you been?

[Anonymous No.6609330]

>>6609199
>only the first third of the book

I wonder how much futher she has gotten

[Anonymous No.6609344]

>>6609199

It’s no wonder. Chinese people are among the most naturally intelligent in the world. They share with Japanese and Koreans the highest IQ scores: they are simply biologically smarter than most people on Earth (yes, intelligence is a vague and still not definitive concept, and yes, IQ is not the only valid measurement of mental achievement, but still: if you compare IQ scores of children who have had the same opportunities and education the Chinese ones will score higher on average – that’s a fact).

But that alone is not an explanation. If you look at Chinese culture, however, you will find more reasons for this phenomenon. They had civil servants and a great state machinery when Europe was still populated by a bunch of warring tribes people, and they value effort and achievement with great pride, even with a kind of fanaticism.

But every single individual is an individual. I try to work to improve myself, and if a lot of Chinese students are doing the same, well: the more learned people in the world the better. Also, let’s not forget that the work in question was written by a Anglo-Saxon.

[Anonymous No.6609365]

How would you even begin to translate Irish regional dialects, the multilingual wordplay, and general English mastery without rewriting the book? I bet the Chinese version is more accessible, it would have to be.

You lose prose but not plot in translation, FW is the closest thing to purely prose that's ever been published.

[Anonymous No.6609373]

>>6609344
eventually, the filthy barbarians stole their secret recipe for tea and got them all loaded on opium. i wonder how much less thuggery and degradation we would have if the east came out the victor of this resentful european attack.

[Anonymous No.6609431]

>>6609365

Professor said so in the article, because of the translation, chinese version is easier than the english one, and that sometimes she just did literal translation ven if it was gramatically incorrect in chinese because there wasnt a good way To translate it

[Anonymous No.6609634]

>>6609344
I don't agree with everything in this post, but it is worthwhile to note that for the vast majority of human history China had the highest living standard in the world. The last five hundred years or so have been a historical anomaly.

[Anonymous No.6609687]

>>6609199
So my translation is more clear than the original book."
DROPPED
what is this shit?

[Anonymous No.6609709]

>>6609199
>dfw i'm learning chinese and i have this to look forward to

thanks for sharing, OP. liked and reblogged.

[Anonymous No.6609720]

>>6609199

>Reading translated Joyce

Why would you even do that in the first place?

[Anonymous No.6609839]

>>6609709
Tell us how it compares when this gets reposted

[Anonymous No.6610061]

Mfw u took the top post on reddit and thought it was something new instead of a 2 year old repost

[Anonymous No.6610107]

>>6609344
>Chinese people are among the most naturally intelligent in the world. They share with Japanese and Koreans the highest IQ scores:
Complete nonsense. Certain US states, for example, have an IQ equivalent to that of Japan. Those states have one thing in common with Japan: they are relatively economically advanced.
As for China, it's no coincidence that a culture in which schoolwork and conformity are so highly valued produces decent thinkers. I say decent, because, despite their monstrous population, there are still single European countries who have produced more artistically than they have. China's huge population also accounts for the high sales of Ulysses.

[Anonymous No.6610901]

>>6609634
they're probably going to be up there again soon

[Anonymous No.6610948]

>>6609720
Dubliners with notes it's good in Spanish (I also read the english version in some parts).
I don't know about the other books.

[Anonymous No.6611359]

News to me, and amazing

[Anonymous No.6611587]

>>6610948
Dubliners doesn't really rely on prose, not at all now that I think of it

[Anonymous No.6611599]

>>6609199
>2013

[Anonymous No.6611637]

>>6610061
/r/books if anyone's wondering
goddamn people from /r/books really do come here
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.6612023]

>>6611587
A few light taps upon the pane made him turn to the window. It had begun to snow again. He watched sleepily the flakes, silver and dark, falling obliquely against the lamplight. The time had come for him to set out on his journey westward. Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.

[Anonymous No.6612121]

>http://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2014/mar/26/finnegans-wake-james-joyce-in-pictures

>4. The Mookse and the Gripes
This tale, told by Shaun, is based on the fable of The Fox and the Grapes. The Mookse is represented by Pope Adrian IV (Nicholas Brakespear, or ‘Bragspear’), the only English Pope.

>>>/lit/thread/S667543

[Anonymous No.6612166]

>>6612023
Apart from the ending of the Dead of course

[Anonymous No.6612198]

>1.5 Billion in Population
>If you can 30,000 copies of a book, it's considered amazing in China...

And we're repeatedly told how intellectual these people are.

[Anonymous No.6612218]

What would the Chinese think of Shakespeare's Ulysses?

Oh, I forgot the Chinese don't read!

[Anonymous No.6612225]

>>6609344

Then why are they also incredibly superstitious, ignorant, and corrupt?

I wish we could bring the qing empire back and relegate China to being the backward it deserves to be.

[Anonymous No.6612230]

>>6609320
"Tuesday 5 February 2013 08.45 EST "
checks out.

[Anonymous No.6612240]

>>6611637
you smelt it you dealt it
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.6612254]

>>6609199
>"The things I lost are mostly the sentences, because Joyce's sentences are so different from common sentences," she says, adding that she often broke them up into shorter, simpler phrases – otherwise, the average reader "would think that I just mistranslated Joyce. So my translation is more clear than the original book."

chinks confirmed for shit tier

[Anonymous No.6612268]

>>6609431
Is this how Russians feel when they laugh at me for reading Pushkin or Lermontov in translation?

[Anonymous No.6612642]

>>6609344

It's a country with over 1 billion people and they consider selling 8000 copies of a book a huge achievement...