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6609169 No.6609169 [Reply] [Original]

All poets are fucking crazy.

And I'm talking about real poets, not mediocre young adults who spout nonsense or style practice. If you take a look inside the life of the greatest poets, they were all fucking crazy in some way or another.

>Baudelaire broke the skull of his nigger girlfriend with a fucking typewriter, was dirt poor all of his life and did huge amount of drugs, died failing his quest in search for the new
>Rimbaud and Verlaine were fucking faggots, and Verlaine tried to shoot Rimbaud twice. He fled into the Indonesian jungles after deserting the dutch army, for four months before embarking clandestinely on a ship to France
>Artaud died alone in a psychiatric clinic, at the foot of his bed, most likely on a drug overdose, after struggling trough schyzophrenia and other debilitating mental illnesses.
>Vian literally got killed by the movie adaptation of I shall spit on your grave
>Mallarmé prophetized his own death and ordered his wife to destroy all of his works so that he would leave no legacy

Poets are fucking crazy because they have the luck of being fanatics

>> No.6609185

>>6609169

Not one of the poets you listed are top-tier.

But you aren't far off. Lord Byron kept a bear in his dorm room because they told him he couldn't have a dog but there were no rules on bears. Pretty fucking based.

>> No.6609206

>>6609185
I respect your opinion, though I personally disagree.

Another example is Rilke; reading his letters to Kappus makes it painfully obvious how fucked up he was

>> No.6609208

>>6609185
Apart from Artaud and Vian they are all top-tier.
Mallarmé is vastly superior to Byron too.

>> No.6609230

>>6609208
>Artaud
>not top tier
He is the greatest poet of all time according to Abraham Greenberg

>> No.6609241

>>6609169
You have a rather Romanticist, historically-myopic conception of the Artist as a type. The poete maudit is a 19th century invention.

>> No.6609247

>>6609241
prove it

>> No.6609252

>>6609241
>muh theology and geometry

>> No.6609259

>>6609230

>Abraham Greenberg
>Green
>Berg

Mountains of cash, tides of capital

>> No.6609262

>>6609169
damn I read Amarillo earlier this week, it was great and much more than what I expected from some random comic book
>aquarellas drawings
>the relationship between a man and his works
>Chad loved his literature so much he shot his best friend in the face when he touched his manuscript
great read

>> No.6609269

>>6609169
>All poets are fucking crazy
>can only think of 6

>> No.6609273

>>6609169

This is actually a fun thread. Yeats was a whack job as well. He was all into spiritualism, married a girl 26 years younger than him just to produce heirs and hated himself for it.

>> No.6609276

most english poets were normal losers

>> No.6609281

>>6609169
Shakespeare is arguably the greatest poet in the English language, and by most accounts lived a comfortable upper middle class lifestyle

That said, in general I agree - see:

>Plath
>Hughes
>Marlowe
>Jonson
>Catullus
>Donne
>Basically fucking all of the Romantics

>> No.6609284

>>6609269
I only listed those whose life I knew the best
>>6609262
That's interesting, but realistically, he probably killed him because he was drunk and provoked, and because Abraham was a fucking autistic neckbeard

>> No.6609286

>>6609281
The Beats were all fucked up too

>> No.6609287

French people are crazy.

>> No.6609295

>>6609281
How was Donne crazy?

>> No.6609302

>>6609281
Was Shakespeare a single person ?

>> No.6609312

>>6609281
>Basically fucking all of the Romantics

All except Wordsworth, aka the most boring prig in English literature. God I hate that cunt.

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6609313

>>6609169
>Noirtriste
Mon nègre !

>> No.6609315

>>6609286
The beats didn't write poetry.

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6609321

>>6609315
They tried and failed
>mfw some plebs think songs can be poetry

>> No.6609322

>>6609269
Not OP but there are plenty of more that immediately come to mind:

Dylan Thomas, despite not being a big a drink as is claimed, machine-gunned his lover's cottage after suspecting she was having an affair.

Hart Crane jumped off a ship and died after shouting something to the passengers.

Houellebeq was a poet before he became a novelist and he was in and out of psychiatric wards in his 20s / 30s and wrote a manifesto advocating NEETdom for aspiring artists.

One example I can think who is totally not insane etc is Philip Larkin, my favourite poet, who lived a fairly routine middle-class life as head librarian of a university library. He wrote a poem called "Poetry of Departures" defending (albeit gloomily) a life of routine over dropping out and living a "wild" life, as he claims it's too much of a pose and that home comforts allows a life that is "reprehensibly perfect"

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6609341

>>6609322
>Dylan Thomas, despite not being a big a drink as is claimed, machine-gunned his lover's cottage after suspecting she was having an affair.

This is the coolest shit ever

>> No.6609359

>>6609312

Byron apparently called him Turdsworth

>> No.6609372

>>6609359
How fucking sad is it that someone with a name as cool as Wordsworth wrote words that weren't worth shit

>> No.6609388

>>6609359
BTFO

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6609393

>>6609169
I CAN'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO PUTS MONEY ON HIS WORDS

>> No.6609400

>>6609393
this is some gay furry shit if I've ever seen it

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6609404

fuck your crazy bobos nigga

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6609410

>>6609400
fucking furfags ruin everything, blacksad is great
>dubs witnessed

>> No.6609414

>>6609410
this is indeed some rare Pepe.

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6609422

As far as I know, Wallace Steven's life is so normal it's funny.

He worked as an insurance company excecutive ffs.

>> No.6609436

All this thread does is make poets seem like children.

>> No.6609441

>>6609422
I fucking love Neruda

>> No.6609449

>>6609436
I don't think children do drugs or kill each other, anon.

>> No.6609470

>>6609169
All post-1800 French poets. Point made, but quite the selection bias.

I raise you Racine, Corneille, Malherbe, fuck even Molière who lived an eventful life and almost died onstage was pretty sane and grounded. Leconte de Lisle was a librarian (of a big State library, but he still spent most of his life in the most peaceful and classy part of Paris), Valéry spent most of his adult life taking care of an older man, which left him much free time for chilling out and writing.Yves Bonnefoy, most critically acclaim contemporary French poet is mostly a translator, he lives a pretty unremarkable life besides his writings.

And that's only considering the French (which is enough to show that your examples are notoriously cherry-picked).

>>6609185
What is top-tier ?

>> No.6609474

>>6609449
I take it you've never lived in Detroit.

>> No.6609479

>>6609474
Teens are not children broski
or are they
hmmm

>> No.6609824

Is this considered crazy now ?

>> No.6609837

>>6609470
Valery was completely crazy though. He was one of the first advocates of fanaticism, notoriously in his conferences regarding aesthetics. He was an absolute mad man who worshipped beauty